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May 25, 2019, 09:17:44 AM
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I checked mobile version and ToS is not on sign-up screen. However, I couldn't sign-up so I can't either confirm or deny that it is/was possible to sign up without checking ToS box. Another thing is, IIRC, FJ did send message to everyone when they changed ToS - does it apply to users who were not forced to agree to ToS in order to use FJ's services? I would say no, but I would also say that it doesn't apply to anyone. If you want people to agree to new terms and conditions - they have to agree by ticking that box, every time changes are made.

Would anyone agree if FJ change ToS and put in there "we will take 50% of your deposit as a fee for our service", doesn't share this with players and simple start taking 50% just because they said they will?  I don't think anyone would.

That is nothing different than any other change in ToS. The rule "we can change our ToS every time we want" is correct, but when they do change it, they need to inform users about it and users need to confirm that they are aware of changes and that they agree with new ToS.

Whatever is not in ToS doesn't apply as a rule.

These are all holes in system and if OP is telling the truth they should hire a lawyer. (of course, if you have received compensation from them and you took it - in that case you should lock this topic, I don't think you have a case then).
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May 25, 2019, 09:21:47 AM
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These are all holes in system and if OP is telling the truth they should hire a lawyer. (of course, if you have received compensation from them and you took it - in that case you should lock this topic, I don't think you have a case then).
Agreed, and he did, 4 months ago.

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May 25, 2019, 12:15:56 PM
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Did he sign a contract when he accepted a compensation for his 20 BTC?

Ask gamblers will fail because it is a biased service, otherwise criminal casinos would not use it!

Thereafter he can ask bakers and still has the option to engage Game Protect. Smiley
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May 30, 2019, 11:48:02 PM
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These are all holes in system and if OP is telling the truth they should hire a lawyer. (of course, if you have received compensation from them and you took it - in that case you should lock this topic, I don't think you have a case then).
Agreed, and he did, 4 months ago.
Let's just recap what this person just said Lardo. Do you notice something? If OP is telling the truth then it doesn't matter what they gave me. Also even though game-protect is like the Saul of BTCtalk. He's right. I didn't sign anything, also matters were handled outside of the website domain so it wouldn't affect regardless. Also, you notice how FJ hasn't said anything regarding another individual 20 dollars and bonus spins? Pettiness on a whole another level lol.
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May 30, 2019, 11:50:44 PM
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I checked mobile version and ToS is not on sign-up screen. However, I couldn't sign-up so I can't either confirm or deny that it is/was possible to sign up without checking ToS box. Another thing is, IIRC, FJ did send message to everyone when they changed ToS - does it apply to users who were not forced to agree to ToS in order to use FJ's services? I would say no, but I would also say that it doesn't apply to anyone. If you want people to agree to new terms and conditions - they have to agree by ticking that box, every time changes are made.

Would anyone agree if FJ change ToS and put in there "we will take 50% of your deposit as a fee for our service", doesn't share this with players and simple start taking 50% just because they said they will?  I don't think anyone would.

That is nothing different than any other change in ToS. The rule "we can change our ToS every time we want" is correct, but when they do change it, they need to inform users about it and users need to confirm that they are aware of changes and that they agree with new ToS.

Whatever is not in ToS doesn't apply as a rule.

These are all holes in system and if OP is telling the truth they should hire a lawyer. (of course, if you have received compensation from them and you took it - in that case you should lock this topic, I don't think you have a case then).
Nope I said previously T&C that is enforced upon players is only enforced at the time of through the remainder of your interaction with the website from then on. It would not apply to any matters prior to that point.

Other than that, what you said is pretty much on point. Glad someone still uses the power of basic deduction, instead of going on 10 separate tangents of why I shouldn't be getting any money.

Also, covered that part to, I let people know that it wouldn't apply to everyone.
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May 31, 2019, 11:16:21 AM
Last edit: May 31, 2019, 06:15:03 PM by verusfides
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lol what makes you think I'm going alone? There are more than a dozen people that have acknowledged the validity of my claim and are willing to follow suit. You've worked with David you know if he had an explanation or something to say he would be no doubt front and center as we speak addressing the situation but instead they removed me from their discord server and their staff had been rummaging into my account since I brought this up.

If true, why do you continue to complain on a brain wash forum and ask gamblers?

I'm just asking for a public response. Best to hear the answer straight from the source. I mean, has anyone seen proof from them that I'm wrong? I presented my proof. Doesn't get more solid than the coverpage of their Sign-Up page without the T&C agreement.
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