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I have one board. High bid is 14 btc right now. Anyone willing to go to 16?
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I cannot do 3 BTC. I am sorry. The loan I need to repay is more than double that amount. These boards should resell for quite a bit higher than that even without Bitcoin mining.
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I am selling my Icarus miner to repay a loan I took out to start a company on the GLBSE. I lost the funds when GLBSE went down and this is the only way for me to repay within a reasonable time frame. I can provide pictures with your username written on a piece of paper to prove I have it and can ship on Monday. Asking 16 btc or a reasonable offer.
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PPoweredP - You seem a little too miffed considering it was my BTC along with others that was lost. It's Nefario's site, his rules. I'd like to see my BTC0.8 returned, but it isn't worth it to me for Nefario to be labeled a scammer if it isn't. I'll consider it a donation to the GLBSE, which I use quite a bit.
I will sell something for BTC and repay you if he does not refund me. Unlike Nefario I can be trusted. |
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Wow, I personally expected more to come out of someone in college.
The forum and glbse is pretty informal, but if this is a college level project, where is a college level prospectus?
The prospectus is not due until the project must be presented in class on October 1st. This listing was not going to go live until September 30th. I am glad I did not put more time into this now as it seems all my efforts in securing funds up to this point have been a total waste. I am beyond irritated with the way this has gone. Shame on Nefario for his actions. You were asking for ~US$120,000. Most people put a lot more effort in for that kind of cash. A lot more was to come. The IPO had not even been approved yet. In fact I was only asking for 90BTC at the current time. Do you have any clue about the bitcoin market youre going to be investing in ? Nefario is right and you should have started small to prove you can make a decent return before trying to raise so many bitcoins off the bat. I did not intend to raise 10000BTC right off the bat. It is not like I could have withdrawn all of that and disappeared anyway. I told him I would lower the offering to 500 shares. He still denied me. Nobody was going to give me 10000BTC. That is common sense. I do not believe that reasoning for denial of my IPO. More likely he is not approving any more listings until his new fees go into effect. A shame because I thought he was an honorable person before this. |
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Well you didn't do everything. The terms and conditions you agreed to were that the exchange could require verification of any asset owner for any reason. You didn't. The terms also gave the exchange the sole discretion in approving a new listing. They didn't.
The fee was non-refundable and you new it was non-refundable.
That is why I contacted him prior to paying the 8BTC and laid out my entire plan. He knew I was not going to verify and let me pay it anyway without a word of concern despite me asking him directly if my IPO would be approved. That action was premeditated and I believe he baited me into paying the 8BTC will the full intention of denying my listing to steal my 8BTC using his terms of service as a shield. His only word of caution was that I should pay quickly because he was raising the fees on Friday. I am calling scammer. Then collect the personal information you had with GLBSE and then go to the Scammer Accusations forum and make your case. You might be shocked but this topic is not about you. Some users of GLBSE want to be informed about the fee change and the contracts and not about your problems listing your asset. |
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Well you didn't do everything. The terms and conditions you agreed to were that the exchange could require verification of any asset owner for any reason. You didn't. The terms also gave the exchange the sole discretion in approving a new listing. They didn't.
The fee was non-refundable and you new it was non-refundable.
That is why I contacted him prior to paying the 8BTC and laid out my entire plan. He knew I was not going to verify and let me pay it anyway without a word of concern despite me asking him directly if my IPO would be approved. That action was premeditated and I believe he baited me into paying the 8BTC will the full intention of denying my listing to steal my 8BTC using his terms of service as a shield. His only word of caution was that I should pay quickly because he was raising the fees on Friday. I am calling scammer. |
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Why would refunding a non-refundable fee be the right thing to do?
I did everything according to the rules and I even contacted him first to let him know what I was doing. He let me pay the 8BTC and then changed the rules in order to scam me. That deserves a scammer tag in my opinion. |
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You are right. Verifying makes everything safe. Trendon Shavers.
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What threats? I said I would be forced to file a scammer complaint if you did not refund my 8BTC. You have not done so yet. Why? Your accusations are bordering on libel.
I also said I would be happy to only raise 500BTC to invest on the GLBSE but for some reason you are trying to paint me as something I am not. Shame on you.
I only wanted to do something fun and get a good grade in my class with my Bitcoin hobby. Nefario apparently wanted to make wild accusations and single me out for some reason. A shame. Adding insult to injury is that I contacted him prior to paying the non-refundable 8BTC fee and his only response was that he would be increasing fees soon. I guess he decided 8BTC is not enough for a listing and this thread was simply his way of pretending to run a transparent exchange. I hope people take notice of this. I for one have a different opinion of the GLBSE now. It looks more like the next Bitcoin Savings & Trust after this experience.
Why would Nefario refund a non-refundable fee? Because it is the right thing to do? |
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Wow, I personally expected more to come out of someone in college.
The forum and glbse is pretty informal, but if this is a college level project, where is a college level prospectus?
The prospectus is not due until the project must be presented in class on October 1st. This listing was not going to go live until September 30th. I am glad I did not put more time into this now as it seems all my efforts in securing funds up to this point have been a total waste. I am beyond irritated with the way this has gone. Shame on Nefario for his actions. You were asking for ~US$120,000. Most people put a lot more effort in for that kind of cash. A lot more was to come. The IPO had not even been approved yet. In fact I was only asking for 90BTC at the current time. |
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PPoweredP has already started making threats to me in PM's, despite me telling him that I would refund the 8BTC. I don't see any reason to take him for anything other than a scammer, what teacher tells a student to go out and start an anonymous fund worth $100,000USD on a bitcoin market?
What threats? I said I would be forced to file a scammer complaint if you did not refund my 8BTC. You have not done so yet. Why? Your accusations are bordering on libel. I also said I would be happy to only raise 500BTC to invest on the GLBSE but for some reason you are trying to paint me as something I am not. Shame on you. |
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Wow, I personally expected more to come out of someone in college.
The forum and glbse is pretty informal, but if this is a college level project, where is a college level prospectus?
The prospectus is not due until the project must be presented in class on October 1st. This listing was not going to go live until September 30th. I am glad I did not put more time into this now as it seems all my efforts in securing funds up to this point have been a total waste. I am beyond irritated with the way this has gone. Shame on Nefario for his actions. |
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Actually I was wrong, you were actually looking for 10,000BTC not 1,000.
Would it make a difference if I was willing to reduce the amount to 500 BTC? I do not want to waste all the effort I have put into this project and it seems that you are unfairly controlling the market. That seems anti-Bitcoin to me. It sounds like PPoweredP wants a KickStarter-like system. That way, investors are protected because a project will not fund unless it reaches the fundraising goals. I only wanted to do something fun and get a good grade in my class with my Bitcoin hobby. Nefario apparently wanted to make wild accusations and single me out for some reason. A shame. Adding insult to injury is that I contacted him prior to paying the non-refundable 8BTC fee and his only response was that he would be increasing fees soon. I guess he decided 8BTC is not enough for a listing and this thread was simply his way of pretending to run a transparent exchange. I hope people take notice of this. I for one have a different opinion of the GLBSE now. It looks more like the next Bitcoin Savings & Trust after this experience. |
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So your pitch is you basically want us to partake in your grade school science project by financing you to become a fund manager, and to do so anonymously.
It is a college econ class. Nefario has denied my IPO and is making wild accusations about me as well as holding my 8BTC listing fee so it is not looking good so far. |
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Actually I was wrong, you were actually looking for 10,000BTC not 1,000.
Would it make a difference if I was willing to reduce the amount to 500 BTC? I do not want to waste all the effort I have put into this project and it seems that you are unfairly controlling the market. That seems anti-Bitcoin to me. At this stage I think not since your intent is clear.  What? My intent to get a good grade in school and raise Bitcoin awareness? What are you basing your accusation on? Not the fact that I have been 100% honest and open to everyone as well as providing my teacher's name and my school address to my lenders. I hope other people take notice of this. I spoke to you prior to submitting my 8BTC and listing my IPO. You never mentioned anything except pointing me towards your new fees. I think your intent is the one that is clear. A shame that you had to go this route. |
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Actually I was wrong, you were actually looking for 10,000BTC not 1,000.
Would it make a difference if I was willing to reduce the amount to 500 BTC? I do not want to waste all the effort I have put into this project and it seems that you are unfairly controlling the market. That seems anti-Bitcoin to me. |
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What are you going to invest 10 000 bitcoins into ?
Are you going to verify your identity on glbse ?
Perhaps 10000 was a bit high. I looked at other offerings and saw most people offering quite a bit more than 10000 so I was being conservative. In hindsight that is probably far more then will ever be sold. I probably should have only created 1000 but you never know how big the GLBSE will get or what the value of BTC-USD will do in the future. Maybe those extra shares will come in handy down the line. I have verified my school and teacher to my lenders that helped me raise funds for this listing. Part of the project is operating an anonymous fund. That is how I plan to tie this project in to Bitcoin and also explain the benefits of saving money through deregulation. It is a crucial part of me getting this project accepted by my teacher. |
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I paid the current fee and met all requirements to list my security of which there are others already doing the same thing. Nefario has threatened to not list my security unless I meet a new set of requirements. This seems quite unfair. Why bother implementing a fee change in a certain amount of days if you are going to change the rules effective immediately? I hope you change your mind Nefario. This is not the way to run a business and I cannot understand why you are choosing to single me out.
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