You are welcome to do so.

I ordered my first smartphone with coinsfortech. There was a slight problem with my bitpay payment, which they solved nicely. We had some communications about details of the item and the delivery, they reacted quick and addequate. The item was send internationally and packed in a sealed bag, which was untouched on arrival. I did not have to pay any customs/tax costs. Don't know why not, but don't care

Thanks for the great service, will definitely do business again.

I got my two cards with the sealed pin enveloppes. Good communication. It was only me a bit slow on reviewing.

Please use quotes to show you are quoting me ! I don't offer anything yet and If I will it will be for an appropiate price.

Sorry for not checking this forum nor my emails these days. I prefer living offline in summer time
Lack of interest on the general public. If you want me to recontinue, take care 10 or more people ask me for it.
They are working great for me. Next to cash they are my lifeline in my offline life.
The fees are in my initial post. Deposits lower then E150 have (relative) higher fees.
I don't know. But I do know there where issues in the Netherlands with fraudulent people tricking ignorant people into making deposits on the cards.
Please don't spread FUD ! The cards are working great. It only needs testing by non-domestics and you can't deposit by bank transfer anymore.

For testing I bought $10 VCC on 30th of April. As it did not arrive within a day I started an email conversation with btcinstant.

Famous last words of btcinstant on 2 May:

There is no need to answer my posting from btcinstant. The $10 experience was worth the knowledge that 'I will never get back there'

Yes it can ! Took me exactly 12h to get my euro's from bank to bitstamp account.

16-4-13 update:removed redundant quote

rpKBh5FXp4589EKQZU7bk1PHUfWjzvUQZu
Don't understand what went wrong but cannot access my (old) wallet anymore. So made a new wallet and a new address:
rL2CCJ14qeposZ3dV8GsNEsce2pxYmZjjS

Thanks for your experience fa1th. Please keep us posted with your experience. Could you inform me / us if you used same personals on the 3vcard as on the bank account you made the transfer from ? If this is the case, it could explain the fact you did not need to send the email. But if you send the transfer by third party it would be simple 'good news'.

I need some 'cash' myself, so I will do some testing myself also in short notice. Keep you posted

In Holland we have a proverb "Don't let somebody else pick the hot potatoes out of the fire". Max. deposit at a time is E150 anyway, max E2500 on card in total.

Correct me if I am wrong but I thought I sold three persons a 3vcard for cost price so they would test them in return ? As it obviously is not common practice to trust people on forehand in bitcoinland I will try a new offer:

I will sell three persons a 3vcard for 3.9btc each. As soon as one of this persons posted his experience in this thread on at least uploading money by sepa transfer I will send him 2.6btc back. Only if you want to trade with me by bitcoin-otc.com I will send you the card without deposit for btc1.3. Please send me PM if you are interested !

Hi,

Sorry being late, took a small vacation

You better send them the message yourself via the email address with which you are registered. If this 'someone' is sending money to your card you probably can ask him/her how much he/she is sending. The only thing they asked me was the exact amount of the transfer in euro. But if you do ask this 'someone' details better ask him/her other bank details also in case the card provider will ask about it. We only will know if it will be a real issue or not by trying.

I can assure you we also have our flaws with American systems on this side of the pond But we can try to help each other isn't it ?

Really like to hear from you how things go. Please let me know.

Hello,

Meanwhile I have send three cards (bitcats, financier, fa1th is on its way). I really like to hear about your experiences with the card. Please let me and other interested people know how things go ! Ask your questions whenever you need.

Some questions I got via pm
I don't know. Fact is that you can use any personal information you like to register the card as long as you provide a dutch street address. No further questions or paperwork needed.

I used my account succesfully from ip's in netherlands, united kingdom, germany, france. My feeling is they don't track, at least don't bother.


No, it is initially empty

The best and cheapest way is to load it yourself via a sepa bank transfer. See my initial post. You can also find dutch persons to buy you vouchers in a dutch shop or via online domestich online payment system (ideal). I am willing to do so for a small fee.

Let me know how things go. Thanks, Rick

It is a pity that the maintainer of bitsafe is not monitoring it's own product anymore. My former posting is still relevant. Meanwhile I tried running bitcoin-qt without using the quick download method. After two days of downloading the blockchain the program crashed and I cannot restart bitcoin-qt. Dmesg barks
At the moment of the crash db was 842MB.

I also don't know how to upgrade bitcoin-qt in bitsafe. There is no repository available in /etc/apt/sources.list. Anybody knows what repository I need for bitsafe ?

The card is activated already in the shop where I bought it without giving them any personals. But you need to register the card so you get the pincode and be able to charge it by banktransfer or voucher:
1. Go to 3vcard.nl
2. Click 'activeer je card of voucher'
3. Click 'activeer je 3vcard'
4. First checkbox 'klantnummer' is the number at the back below the barcode. Second checkbox is email, third password, fourth security question. Later on in the process you need to give a name and address in NL. You can use pseudo's for them, no problem. But 'remember' all your 'personals' in case you need them later. Let me know if you get stuck.

No you did not. But I like to leave a small notice to clarify to other people why I removed my message. And I think the content is accurate as your above quoted message states clearly.
I have no problem with your posting, allthough it is slightly off topic

Two cards are send, one left.

@financier: I send you pm.

Don't know anything about deepweb .onions. But thanks for putting me on a new trail

I can offer a prepaid reloadable visa card. They are sold in shops in the Netherlands for E10. There are 2 ways to reload them:
1. by voucher (3.5% transaction rate)
2. by (sepa) bank deposit (E2 transaction rate)
You can only buy card and voucher online if you can use ideal, which is domestic internet payment system for NL. But you can use me as your 'middle man'  

Fees are:
- deposit by voucher (3.5%). max E150
- deposit by bank (E2). max E150
- pos no fee
- atm withdrawal E1. max E150
- max deposit pro year: E2500
- transaction cost outside euro zone: 1.75%

It is no longer possible to make bank deposits on this card. You need a dutchman to buy you vouchers, which i am willing to do for a fee.

You can use the card for registering paypal account. Verifaction code is send from paypal to the card nearly instant. Paypalcode and other details of the payment can be checked in your account. But take care you use the same personals on card and paypal.

It looks like people are interested again in this offer. If at least 10 people ask me to continue, I will

Thanks, Rick
[update 22-9-12: minor change in description]
[update 10-10-12]: appended sentence about paypal verification
[update 15-11-12] Removed 'Foreign (sepa) bank deposit is a bit more of a hassle yet. 5 days after you have done the deposite you have to' by 'Foreign (sepa) bank deposit takes a week. If after a week still nothing arrives' because of experience from fa1th
[update 15-11-12] Placed a new offer
[update 14-3-13] Removed offer. Placed 'onhold' message.
[update 16-7-13] Removed 'Bank deposits can be made by third parties, checked and confirmed. Domestic bank deposit is done within 2 days. Foreign (sepa) bank deposit takes a week. If after a week still nothing arrives send a message to the service desk in which you state name, country of the bank you made the deposit from and the exact amount of the deposit in euro's. Service desk is quick, friendly and accurate' . Replaced 'onhold' message by another 'onhold' message asking 10 people to ask me to start selling.

On request of TS removed and replaced by a new thread

did a few sepa deposits. All where credited to my bitstamp account within 48h. conversion rate E=>$ was less then 0.5% under ecb rate. very satisfied.

I am willing to accept paypal for btc or mtgoxusd to rated users on otc. I did send you mail. I also can accept libertyreserve if that helps.
http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=RickLandman
http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php?sortby=id&sortorder=ASC&type=&nick=RickLandman

I donwloaded bitsafe, and ran it from a usb stick and connected it via ethernet. First thing bitsafe is asking after startup is if I want to download the blockchain, which I accept. I did this a few times, but after the download is completely finished (I see huge dat-files in /storage/bitcoins) I get consistently the same message


I tried it many times in a period of two weeks with the same result. Any ideas ?

Hello paraipan,

Thanks for helping me on with one of my first bitcoin purchases. I did not read the information on his website too well. But he explained me very patiently the rates he was using.

Thanks, Rick