I'm still waiting for my refund. For me it's a scam and Tom is a scammer.

Tom has become rich taking away our BitCoins and there are people who give thanks.

I wrote him many times and is so difficult he answer to me.

But after retry many times, he said me:

No one of the two times was true. He has a fixed thread in this forum section and he doesn't comply what he wrote.

He asks me one and once again the order number. I have given the order number around five times and still he doesn't pay me back.

I believe I have enough reasons to say that Tom is a scammer and I demand one more time publicly what he must pay me.

I'm still waiting for my refund. For me it's a scam and Tom is a scammer.

Tom doesn't answer my e-mails, doesn't return my bitcoins.

Tom is trying to hide the evidences.  He deleted the forums and now he has deleted my btcfpga.com account.

I feel scammed.

The best option is to pre-order for 190 BTC by ASIC vaporware and return 15 BTC.

Dave think $ 15 for bitcoin was good price. A few days later Tom said...

Tom waited a month to choose, whether it was better to pay $15 or pay current price. If the price had gone down, Tom would say that it was fixed at $15.

No refund 

Mobius and Bits have joined? Which do I choose? 

Tom is waiting the bitcoins arrives to $35.

Anyone remember accepting an agreement which stated that it was an investor?

Is any part of what I wrote hard to understand? I can try to write it differently.

I would like to respond to Tom, with my bad English.  

Not all the reasons. BFL problems belong to BFL. BFL has a thread on scammers. This is a thread about BASIC.

I think your bank or VISA, are strong filing criminal charges. So were the first to pay back.

For every sold BASIC gave me a dollar? It gave me nothing because we are buyers. We're not investors. Because you spent our money?

Dave think $ 15 for bitcoin was good price. A few days later you said...

Don't worry about removing the forums. I have screenshots.

Priced at $ 15 lose more than 20% of my bitcoins. I am willing, with a quickly payback. Think I'm not seeking damages for the delay. With the price that you propose now I lose 64%.

You waited a month to choose, whether it was better to pay $15 or pay current price. If the price had gone down, you would say that it was agreed at $15.

I think there are people who buy with a price lower than mine and their percentages be even worse.

In my country there are many scammers and corrupt, also live at home. Including our Prime Minister is corrupt.

I want to think well of you. You made some very wrong decisions that ruined the project. But with good intentions. But when you decided to spend our money and wait for price of bitcoins. You turned into a scammer. I understand that you have many debts to providers. But you may want to pay providers with money from your customers.

Tom does not think it's the place to say who goes worse. Only tell you that in my country the salary in the same job than in the U.S. is only 33% and is one of the countries most affected by the crisis.

This would not have happened if you had not spent the money from customers. When customers requested a refund, the bitcoin was $15.

I wish the right things.

I hope that your family life will go all right.

Not saying it's impossible. I mean it's not normal, that his wife was pregnant when you were 16 years old. Your daughter could have sweeping or moving some boxes. But this is one of the many strange things in the way of working of Tom. Nobody seems to know him in person.

In my country we have a proverb.

If it looks like shit, smells like shit and if it tastes like shit. It's because it's shit!!!

When information is not available, we can only speculate. Not having information and transparency.

We see that are not normal. Waiting until the last minute to announce a delay. Not having a physical prototype. Expect to see the evolution of bitcoins before chargeback.

Fefox's not explain what happened to CAN-ELECTRIC.

Tom has not sent me any email. People have had to organize inside the forum, Tom has not provided any information. Time or rate of change for refunds their bitcoins.

Why would have to put money in buying the company failed to Tom?

http://goo.gl/9qA2w

I whining because basics not ship in December or January.

I do not know. Perhaps would have returned the price bitcoins or dollars. But curiously always lucky is with Tom. Many people think that Tom is getting money with bitcoin price increase.

Many people have suffered biggest scams does not mean that this is not a scam. I have not received anything.

I didn't say I put all my eggs in Tom's basket. But, all eggs in this basket are crashed. I haven't use these eggs.


Why not freeze the price at $15? What is the reason to continue speculating on the price of my bitcoins? If bitcoins have dropped in price, Tom would have said that the $ 15 was a good price? Tom is play with card marking.

Thanks http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bankruptcy#Fraud and add http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damages

1. I'm not on the forums every day.
2. My English is not enough to tell if someone is drunk. While I recognize that in this post I was hard to understand.
3. Are you trying to say I'm guilty for taking long time to request a refund?

I speak and write correctly in 2 languages​​. Unfortunately English is not one of them. Please keep respect for trying to offer my opinion.

Sorry for my low level of English, but I think you will understand me.

Tom / Cablepair is a scammer and these are my reasons for thinking this. You just have to answer these questions.

1. When you said you bought your asics would be ready in early December? That happened?

2. 2012/11/27 Tom announces the first delay. My last purchase you entered the first shipment was 2012/11/23 (http://goo.gl/itHPS). You think that at that time, Tom did not know there would be a delay?

3. You think that since the closure of the first shipping orders was a significant decrease in the number of sales? You think that's because for the people was very important to the shipping date? With true information sales would have been lower?

4. In a project of this size. If only missing two weeks should be 95% done. You think that happened? You think that Tom knew the delay, long before announcing it?

5.
Tom, 31 years (http://goo.gl/vSmYH) can have a son old enough to work? You may Cablepair/Tom, not the same person as Thomas Van Riper? Someone has known personally?

6. It is normal for a businessman who moved hundreds of thousands of dollars. Advertise a sale of the company and a second delay while drunk?

7. Because Tom has not explained what happened with CAN-ELECTRIC?

8. Because Tom has not explained the refund process?

9. Because Tom has not explained what the Asian company that wanted to buy the project from Tom?

10. Because Tom has disappeared and gives no explanation?

11. The Tom ASICs were real? There is evidence, pictures, documents, videos? Tom built something? 10%, 20%, 50%, 80%, 99%?

12. I did not want to give back my money. I wanted my asics in December, although it could accept a delay until January.

13. Believe that the change in price of bitcoins has benefited Tom?

14. Those who have received refunds in bitcoins. They think they would have more or less money if they had the bitcoins in your wallet?

15. I keep in bitcoins leftover money to buy basics. Also I keep the bitcoins mined later.

16. I made a bet in less than six months would get more bitcoins, that I spend on basics. I do not bet, money back with bitcoins months later with a new price. I was not responsible for Tom incompetence.

17. I have my bitcoins committed to Tom, I had the option to buy asics at other companies.

18. I requested my refund on the night of 13 to 14 January. A few days after I value bitcoins Dave at $ 15. With that price I already lost bitcoins. Tom waited without consulting a price more beneficial for him. Why have not I received my bitcoins?

19. I don't understand why people thank Tom, after that will return less than 50% of their bitcoins.

20. To finish the last question. In September / October / November, without knowing the price changes of bitcoins. But knowing all that would happen to Tom had made ​​the purchase? Why?

The problem is not the price change of bitcoins. The problem is Tom.

If Tom believes that some of the information posted is wrong, I am happy to receive information and apologize.

If anyone wants to correct my English for easy reading. Would be very grateful.

Someone in Europe refunded?

You could upload it in a zip? Would be easier to download if anyone needs it for a legal requirement.

Thanks