Thank you for your message, I understand it. I am not admin or manager but I helped a little bit developing it. And also the source code is public, so you can make sure, that there is no scam involved. You can read the source code here: https://etherscan.io/address/0x369e7f986383d2c8e7e11b9e9e99097f577d75b5#code

I did share the project, because I wrote with the owner and just wanted to make it public - because as you know, the match starts soon

I clearly wrote in the title, that there is no ICO.

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I am not the owner of the project nor admin, manager or anything like that.


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This project is not an official project of fifa or connected to fifa.
The images used are CC0 images.

Thanks for continuing the thread and answering our main issue.
As the poll shows (currently) 70% are for tokens.
But I am sure that most use tokens because of the easy transferability to for example sell them fast after an ICO.
We, for now, have decided to create a coin from a third party who offers the option to create it.
There is no plan to completely pay our costs through an ICO but instead - as already said - do a donation program (not ICO),
airdrops and also let the coins generate through staking.
We will create webwallets where we offer complete transparency and also the option to export the privatekey - not like most exchanges do.
There will be much options to spend these coins, but that would be too much details which we do not want to share right now.

Thank you all for participating in this thread and also sorry for my late answer!

#EDIT
First question solved. But why should people participate if there are not even tokens in the contract?

That's not true. Look, what has fiat money as value? True, it depends on what the people (can) do with it.
When noone would use it as trading instrument, it would be just worthless paper (or just numbers).
But as a huge amount of people use it and trust it, it get's a higher value.

ICOs are not better and even less more a share on a project. The project can be as good as possible, but if the coin specs are not good, it won't rise.
Most people only invest in ICOs because of the chance of making big amounts of money.

But nevertheless thank you for your answer, even if it did not really fit my question/issue!

Thank you for more answers,

our main reason to use a coin and not a token is the usage of the coin.
We don't want to just collect for example Bitcoin, Ether etc. to then give out our coin (= ICO) but we want to continue using that coin in the platform internally.
So no, we do not just want to make an ICO to start a project.
Instead, we want to start the project AND make an ICO AND also make it possible to get some of our coin for free (bounties, airdrops and more).

We don't have much experience in both cases, but using a coin will be much more secure for the users, as they will hold their private keys, and easier for us,
as it's easier for us to program with a coin then with a token (solidity).

The project we will start, will be a smaller project and not too complex. We have watched much coins and tokens where the developers did not have professional experience but still succeeded. In the crypto world does not only the project with the most experienced staff succeed. There are way more factors than just that and we're constantly learning about those.

I simply just had for a too long time only ideas and want to start a project - not only for money, but for the experience I get out of it. This thread was to see how the users here think and I am very happy to see that so much would support still a coin, even if the tokens are so easy to get.

I don't give details about the project as this thread is just for the question of whether using a coin or a token.
For sure, at the end it will be our decision, but it's very interesting to read about how the users think.

Thank you for these nice answers!
I'm still open for ideas and wish everyone a great day!

Thank you for all your answers.
We will to 90% use a coin as it's simply easier to handle.
We continued discussing pros and cons and also respected your answers but it's on the hand that we have to use a coin.
Our platform will always work with the currency we use and in Ethereum/Solidity every transaction/work with the coin needs a third party coin, Ether/Gas.
So when - just for example - you buy product X, it costs the token + Gas/Ether.
But when you use the coin, you just need to have the coin, nothing more.

Also we discussed, that we will create a webwallet, so there will be no need to download any tool/program but easily handle all your coins like MyEtherWallet.

Thank you everyone for your answer and also thank you for future answers! We're still open for your suggestions

Hey!

My team and me are currently planning a new project where we are internally discussing on whether using an own token or an own coin.
We are planning a project, where we and the users also should be able to use that coin/token on the website.
As both are usable and good, both have good and bad sides.

Coins (our favorite):
+ More easily usable in the platform/website
+ Fees cost only in the own currency/coin
+ No need for third party coins
+ We have enough experience to start with a Coin
- Each user needs a new wallet (not always! We work on a web wallet )

Token:
+ To buy/get and hold tokens is very easy
+ They already are easily usable in several wallet software
- Transactions need Ether/Gas
- Using them in a project would cost probably very much as each transaction costs something
- Implementing them into the website is a much bigger task
- We don't have enough experience yet
> Is maybe not even possible

To go more in detail, we want to make a project where users need to pay for certain actions, but also get rewards, each paid in our own currency.
We atm do not plan to make an ICO before, instead, we want to use a combination of the currently very popular airdrop and ICO combined.
Even as Token are useful in ICO, we tend to better use an own coin.

Thank you for participating in the poll!

Never... I repeat.. FUCKING NEVER listen to those stupid Slack, Email or whatever newsletters and ALWAYS, I repeat ALLLLWAAAAYYYYSSSSS use ONLY.. I repeat... ONLYYYYYYY >> myetherwallet.com <<
He maybe entered the privatekey on a scammer website, then it's over.

Got my eTV #noscam

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When will you start to open the platform?

Do you need german translation? If yes, pm me! 

Got my coins, thanks!


And also thx to someone who donated me 0,07 ETHD





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50 Bitcoin is way too much, sorry bro
(Anyway I hope you found someone heheh)

Your website looks very nooby. Also I am wondering, why does no team member say in their profile that they work at you?
Do you think that you can build this from scratch? It looks like you start with zero money.
And if I'm wrong, why don't you post ATM images?

Looks not really serious.

What the f*ck are you talking about?