Friends: I'm feeling a little desperate here. I'll gladly tip in BTC, LTC, ETH, ETC, XMR, XRP, FCT, SIA, ARDR, SJXC, MAID, ICN, NEM, MIOT, BTS, ZEC, ANS, or GNT for some real help. (You can name your token / currency.) I realize this may get me a number of offers, but I can only dance with one person at a time.

So here are the issues: (1) I set up a CounterParty wallet for the crowdsale, intending to send my BTC from it. But it had been a long day, and I sent my "contribution" directly from my Trezor HW instead of first transferring it to the CP wallet. Dang. (2) I'm a LibArts major who still has a lot to learn in this world of cryptos / tokens

What I need is a clear, simple step-by-step guide on how to get my tokens.

- I sent 0.3 BTC to 3AiGej11G8jUXvEBPvQKPLiHXC7ruUCp1Z
- Txn: 702b16d2774d2fae561616138783583e468174e40b486f88b15dfc5ce5459b73
- But I can't figure out the sending address by looking at the blockchain
- Nor can I find it on Trezor since I don't have a static public address
- I suspect the tokens won't come back automatically to me on Trezor, and even if it did I couldn't see the token.

Thanks in advance!

A few of you actually made some intelligent posts and gave counter-examples to the premise that "old people don't use / can't learn bitcoin." But the vast majority of posts were made by people with their heads up their asses. The amount of generalization, stereotyping and just plain stupidity is bewildering. I read all 11 pages and was going to post quotations from every page but gave up about halfway through. Didn't bother to correct the original typos and bad grammar.

- you don't see any old people around the forum
- they are just use bitcoin to gamble online
- older people tend to not do anything, they do literally nothing
- I don't think they would want to earn bitcoins
- the old folks likely wont even understand it
- the only people over 45 that are messing with Bitcoin are broke and desperate to make a few bucks because they were too stupid to put away money for their old age
- if you'll talking about 60+ years old I guess it's impossible to them to entered this business or joining Sig campaign
- elderly people dont really want to earn money or something,
- they usually go to church,go for a walk watch TV and that is basically their whole life
- they have very limited activities as compare to the young ones. they young people have to do their job or to give time to their business
- they are still holding there bitcoin to make a profit .. just to hold it and sell when the price of bitcoin is getting high
- I don't think that they are the ones who directly manage their investments. They are too old to understand. They may have someone who helps them maybe a younger friend or their kids
- I don't think there are people older than 45 know bitcoin. it's just my prediction

Really? Well, I'm by by far the oldest person by a long shot on this forum right now, and you have no idea how hard I work. Most of you would wither under my circumstances. And yet I still make / find time to learn about bitcoin and emerging fintech. I also know more about bitcoin than most of you. And I'd venture to say I own more bitcoin than most of you. (Plus I've invested in 6 other crytocurrencies.) My whole life isn't going to church, going for walks, and watching TV. I don't hold bitcoin just so I can  sell when it's high. And I don't gamble with it. (Gambling is for suckers.) When I buy it I keep it. Furthermore, I'm not rich. I manage my own investments, which are almost all digital assets. And frankly, when I try to talk to young people about bitcoin, almost none of them have a clue what I'm talking about. A few here and there say something like, "Yeah, I've heard of it before." I wonder why there's such limited knowledge among the young people I talk to? Should I conclude the following:

- they spend too much time watching stupid Youtube videos to get involved with bitcoin
- they spend too much time taking selfies and adoring themselves
- they spend too much time on Facebook or Instagram or texting while walking or playing Pokeman Go
- they're lazy slackers who don't value education and continued learning
- they can't even put together a coherent sentence, so how could they understand the complexities of cryptocurrencies or blockchain technology?

You get the point. Think before you speak, people. If you don't see a lot of "old people" around the forum, at least part of the reason might be that there's not much worth reading here. It smacks of middle school conversation.

And now to the OP's question regarding signature campaigns. What a colossal waste of time! Why would I spend my valuable time churning out posts just to crawl up some stupid food chain so that I can earn nickels and dimes? There are better ways to make money and invest in BTC.

BTC is at a superb buying price. Period. And even if it goes $10-20 lower, who gives a rip? People who say wait to buy are short-term thinkers. If you believe in BTC's proposition, then someday when 1 BTC is ~ $2-5K p/ coin (or much, much more), you won't care about the measly $10 or $20 you spent on the purchase of a coin. You only care right now if you're acting like a trader / speculator. I'd say do a gut check and ask yourself, "Do I believe this will succeed?" I do. Just like email replaced snail mail, just like Uber is disrupting the taxi industry, Airbnb the hospitality industry, etc, etc, etc, decentralized digital money will upend the banking industry as we know it. There will be challenges and attempts by the old order to penalize, regulate, weaken or disable this newly emerging money system, but it's an idea whose time has come and whose outcome won't be denied. Do you believe that? If you did, you wouldn't be getting your panties twisted over a few measly dollars.

If you remember the beginning of 2016, when BTC was at ~$400, a number of astute and well-known fin techies and bitcoin observers predicted that by the end of 2016 the price of BTC would be $600-1000. Almost all of those interviewed put it in that range, though some put it higher. So we're doing pretty well right now. Split the difference and we're at $800 by December.

And I read a report the other day that the BTC market is quite healthy right now. A large part of the market lethargy is because we have lots of people in long position. Like me. I'm not panicking. I'm not selling. I'm buying, and $580 sounds like a sweet deal to me.

I've been using Coinbase for 1 yr now, and every purchase / transaction (buying, selling, sending) has been flawless. I think overall they're a solid exchange and have WAY better business practices than Bitfinex did. But only on a few occasions have I used my mobile Coinbase app to purchase, and only once to send. I prefer going to website via my laptop. Not recommending Coinbase. Just saying that others like me have had a great experience. I have my coins locked down in their vault for now but will take them to Trezor or Ledger soon. "Their keys, their coin. Your keys, your coin."

So I gather that no one here can, in a simple step-by-step manner, explain to a non-dev noob like me how to purchase and store XLM. Correct? Gotta know code? Can't find a single (safe) wallet out there. As someone mentioned earlier, Lobstr keeps your private key online. Any help you can offer would be appreciated.

I just bought about 2K of AMP via Poloniex. Transacted in about 15 min. Not bad. Not sure why others were experiencing such slow wait times.