Everyone is welcome to post here about the Rock.

According to an Italian site, the Rock Trading lost 904 thousands euros on an hack on an affiliated company OneDime on September 2021:
https://www.ilgazzettino.it/nordest/padova/criptovalute_invesitre_come_sito_the_rock_trading_paci_barbarossa-7262776.html

I don't have hard evidence to say if this was an inside job or not.

However:

I) The Rock Exchange is a scam, with fake orderbooks, volume and profits. See links to the evidence on the OP updated summary.

II) They used those fake results to scam 1.5 million from investors on a crowdfunding campaign.

III) As I posted, the profits that they reported until the crowdfunding were very low according to official published results. During the crowdfunding, they announced fake results and absurd goals. I don't have the numbers, but I think they paid dividends to their naive investors way above what they really earned. This was unsustainable.

IV) As I posted, they were spending way above what they earned with their costly and fake Holding, with companies that were pure paper and websites, which had no real earnings. Again, this was  unsustainable.

V) As all other ponzi schemes, they announced a second round of crowdfunding. I found about it and made clear that as soon as the new crowdfunding company was known it would be informed about the scam, as well as the Italian authorities. They managed to remove the original news about the second round of crowdfunding. Which says a lot about all of this.

VI) Without the alternative of a second influx of crowdfunding money, this hack/liquidity problem seems very convenient.

VII) Recently, they tried to negotiate a deal with me thanks to the initiative of a forum member which had as a requisite that I had to remove my posts. Now, that there are many people, customers and investors, suspecting of a scam, they are afraid that many will find out this thread and will find evidence that their exchange was a scam.

But this doesn't mean that the hack was indeed an inside job. They could be already in trouble because of their scam and then the hack ruined everything completely. The authorities will have to check everything. But the Rock was a scam for many years and now they will find out all about it.

The italian authorities only need to confront the publicly stated volume announced by the Rock and the recorded history of their real customers. The difference will me so huge that the scam will be more than clear.

The Rock Trading ended here. Every asset was frozen and even the houses of the two main owners were searched. They will answer for everything.

Thanks for your post, I had just found this https://blog.therocktrading.com/en/communication-of-platform-operations-interruption/

For 4 years, I have posted warning after warning against the Rock Trading, with only the support of a few forum members.

That their orderbooks and profits were fake. That they scammed their crowdfunding investors. They just now found out that they lost all their money. And probably most of the customers too.

I wonder what lie they will invent to justify the problems of liquidity.

The Rock CFO and CTO can be shore that I will inform the italian authorities about all their scams and will present all the videos I made of their clearly fake orderbooks.

I posted that the Rock CFO wrote lie after lie about the rules of the Rock Trading Exchange on withdrawals from unverified customers. Their FAQ were more than clear until they changed them on 2019, just to try to clean their actions after the facts, the covert block of my account, on December 2017 & January of 2018.

But this is not just my opinion. For instance, check this review made on 2018 (they quote their changes on 2017), made after they covertly blocked my withdrawals: https://www.forexsq.com/rock-trading-review-scam-safe/

They explicitly write that "Fiat transfers through banks (SEPA, Wire) are available only to verified users".

Which means that crypto transfers are available to both verified and unverified customers, as I posted.

This just confirms the Rock Trading scam since the start.

A junior member with negative feedback supporting the Rock. What a surprise. Another alt or a paid poster....

I posted that the Rock CFO wrote lie after lie about the rules of the Rock Trading Exchange on withdrawals from unverified customers. Their FAQ were more than clear until they changed them on 2019, just to try to clean their actions after the facts, the covert block of my account, on December 2017 & January of 2018.

But this is not just my opinion. For instance, check this review made on 2018 (they quote their changes on 2017), made after they covertly blocked my withdrawals: https://www.forexsq.com/rock-trading-review-scam-safe/

They explicitly write that "Fiat transfers through banks (SEPA, Wire) are available only to verified users".

Which means that crypto transfers are available to both verified and unverified customers, as I posted.

Why do you then waste your time posting on my thread?

Jollygood accused you of being an alt of the Rock CFO. And he might be perfectly right for this reasons:
I) Your account was created on similar dates of other Rock CFO alt accounts. On the period of 1 year when he was temporarly baned.

II) Your merit history is very strange. You got some on very close days, as if they were traded or bought.

III) Your posts started as more or less balanced, as if the Rock CFO intended to create an image of impartiality in order for this alt to operate as a mediator.

IV) Now, you post only things that the Rock CFO would post. The exact same nonsense proposal of a civil suit.

V) Your posts are more or less near the pure insult now, something that is expected from the Rock CFO. He did the same using Alts on the italian thread.

I'm going to see him in jail and I'm still looking for his second round of crowdfunding scam.

And you keep insisting on the same rejected absurd solution. I will not waste time on a civil suit.
Is that the only thing you can think about?
What do you mean I lost half of my money. They have euros from me. Not bitcoin. Inflation is not that high.
I think you didn't understand what I mean about Jollygood opinion about you.

I could say the same thing about you. You seem to be supporting the absurd claim of the rock cfo to sue him on a civil court. After all the crimes he done?
I would I waste time and money on a civil court if I can go to the police for free.?

Initially you seemed impartial, but now? You seem to be posting just to support the Rock CFO.

Maybe Jollygood is right about you. It's up to you to say the contrary.

I c

Trading, thank you very much for your continuous support to my case. You have been a supporter for years.

I won't comment on the moderation, out of respect for this forum.

You are very right qualifying his creation of fake reviews about his own exchange as stupid and shameless, he created  39 5 star fake reviews on only three days, on 27, 28 and 29 September of 2021 and he was there "thanking them". Just check https://www.trustpilot.com/review/therocktrading.com?languages=all

And he did the same on their Facebook, by paying for 13 positive reviews from arabic people, clearly fake customers, all made on 28 September and 2 October 2019. I checked them and these reviews are still online: https://www.facebook.com/pg/TheRockTrading/reviews/

Fake reviews are a scam, who are persecuted as criminal fraud on the United States. This is the kind of action we can expect from people like him.

The only surprise is his insistence on creating them on such a manner that reveals clearly their scamish nature.

The Rock CFO doesn’t stop. Another fake review on Trustpilot and, as usual, with a 5 stars rating. https://www.trustpilot.com/reviews/6376109fb84cc27618ee8db0

And he doesn’t even learn with his mistakes and my previous warnings that those mistakes reveal that the review and rating is a clearly fake.

Who is there on the exact same day to thank the “customer review”. Yes, if you usually read this thread, you know the answer: our “trustworthy” Rock CFO for sure.

He doesn’t even try to hide better this scam of his fake reviews on his own exchange by waiting a few days to give thanks to the “customer”. He is there on spot to thank, like if he didn’t have anything more to do.

The reports on their customer service talk about serious delays. But he is on Trustpilot everyday to check for new reviews and thank them.

Thanks for the persistent interest in my case, JollyGood. If it wasn't the amount in question this would be solved many years ago. But their greediness is digging their hole.

A second motive that is delaying their second round of scam is the crypto crash. A crowdfunding on this context would be much harder to be successful.

I wonder how much their customers lost dumping their orders on their fake orderbooks. Since they don't seem to hold crypto (or they wouldn't need to scam to pay for their retirement) they probably didn't lost much and might have earn from their customers dumps. But it's impossible to know. But soon they will need to pay dividends on fake profits. They will have to use money from the crowdfunding to pay them, they don't have profits for that. A few more inches on their hole.

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For years the Rock CFO has posted lie after lie, claiming that existing european directives (which anyway are not directly applicable as they have to be adopted by national legislation) force them to require KYC for withdrawals of crypto.

Confirming that this is a complet lie, there is now a proposal for a new european regulation which will require KYC/AML also for crypto actives. One of the reasons stated for this new proposal is precisely that existing directives don't apply directly to crypto but only for fiat withdrawals.

As european authorities declare: "crypto-assets are currently out of the scope of EU legislation" https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/headlines/economy/20220324STO26154/cryptocurrency-dangers-and-the-benefits-of-eu-legislation

But this new reformation to apply to crypto also is only a proposal. It hasn't been approved yet and it will take years to be approved and then member states will have years to adopt them to their internal Law.

So, lies, lies and more lies: there is no duty to demand KYC for crypto withdrawals under current european or italian Law.

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It seems that the crypto crash was indeed the final nail on the second crowdfunding cofin. I couldn't find any news about it on their social media or website. The removal of the news I posted is also indicative of their
I guess we here at bitcointalk, the fews that paid attention and posted about it, also had a part ruining this new major scam from the Rock CFO and his accomplices.

But they won't give up an opportunity to scam millions this easily. As soon as there is a crypto rebound, they will start planning again. But we will be on it, searching for news about it and posting them. Unless they end in jail before the crypto rebound...

Their major problem is that they have to make a lot of publicity. Promoting a scam is always half way to ruining it, but on this case they have no alternative.

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It was the Rock CFO that announced publicly the second round of crowdfunding, now "open for all" as he said (in Italian) here https://www.cryptocoinference.com/2022/01/17/the-rock-trading-e-main-sponsor-della-terza-edizione-di-crypto-coinference/

According to the published news he said this in the middle of this crypto conference. They were the main financiers of the conference. Which makes sense as a mean to promote their second round of scam.

The Rock CFO never denied this intention to do a second round of crowdfunding.

This page was recently removed. I wonder the reason. Did the Rock CFO suddenly got cold feets because of the posts from me and a few more members about his second round? If it was the case, he just gave up an opportunity to scam another 1 or 2 million because of the scam against me.

This scam is criminally very danger but in this case is also becoming very costly for him.

Thank you again for your time, JollyGood, but don't waste it writing him. The Rock CFO publicly defamed you and never apologized. You had all justification to block him. We only have to check your reputation from trustworthy members here on bitcointalk to know you.

Confirming my last post, the Rock Trading keeps wasting money on non profitable projects. Now they are spending money on a publication: https://blog.therocktrading.com/crypto24-ottobre-2022/

This only makes any sense as another publicity operation. Their goal is just to promote their name in preparation to the second round of crowdfunding scam.

Thanks for another thoughtful post, JollyGood.

They are spending money much higher than what they earn, according to their published numbers. They are using money they received on the crowdfunding to finance daily expenses of their fake Holding. Their investors will be confronted with very bad news.

They have a limited number of customers, perhaps their deposits aren't in danger as the investors money will have to answer for customers deposits. Only them know the financial hole they have in hands.

I'm still on any details about their planned second crowdfunding scam.

Thanks for your post and time, JollyGood, but after 4 years the Rock CFO already sees my money as his, with just an annoyance to solve. He is very wrong. He destroyed his life, he just don't feel it yet!

His absurd insistence on the same lies and excuses after all this time just confirms what kind of person he is.


4 year old excuse to steal my money. He just insists on it because he knows I won't ever send him my documents.

Remember, this person even posted here on this forum almost all the personal details he had from my account, including first name, gender, nationality and even a reference to financial relations as a petty vengeance. Anyone would have to be crazy to trust him any other personal information.

PS. This post was delayed by some issues.

The Rock CFO keeps insisting on this nonsense declaration. He never clarifies what he means by "capable to get access", but obviously he doesn't mean I had access by hacking or anything illegal or he wouldn't recognize it.

But he keeps posting the same absurd lie that I'm not the owner, after 4 years without anyone logging on my account or claiming the account.

I have evidence of ownership of the banking account used to withdraw EURO from the Rock (when that was legal on 2013, according to their TOS) and posted a signed message with the bitcoin account used to make the deposit that made the 35500 USD once sold.

Lies, excuses, the usual.

JollyGood, thank you for the usual support.

But don't lose your precious time. The CFO won't do anything until the police knocks on his door.

He keeps insisting on their "arbiter" that he already confessed that is just a misleading segregated account from the Rock Trading. Being a Rock banking account, he clearly has full control over it.

I already posted his confession many times, I won't repost it now again, just check here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4975753.msg60495406#msg60495406


You are looking more and more as the Rock CFO defender, that he quotes with pleasure.

In reality, there is nothing to settle. I'm not asking for compensation from all the criminal acts and defamation (he went as far as suggesting that the supposed real owner was dead and I had something to do with it!!). At least, I'm not asking for it here.

He will just have to convert my money to bitcoin at current international price and return it. Plain and simple. Including the small amount on XRP.

But after 4 years, I have little doubt that he won't do it until the Italian police goes knock on his door. This went too far. If he thinks he can just put a stone over it and everything will go on fine, he better be prepared for a nasty surprise.

I and other forum members are checking their sites waiting for any news about their plans to do a second round of crowdfunding scam. So far, there seems to be no information.

Will see if they dare to try to do it again.

One thing seems sure: it won't be the same same crowdfunding company. This company knows this thread and most likely read some of my posts, including the official revenues of their fake holding. They now are aware that the crowdfunding was a scam and most likely want to put as much distance as possible from the Rock Trading and their illusion holding.

And this crowdfunding company is not off the hook. This scam hasn't exploded yet. The bang will impact many people, not just the responsible and the scammed ones.

Your 2.5 years fulfill my notion of "several years". I can recover my money with a simple criminal complain very fast. Since so many time passed without legal consequences, the Rock CFO thinks nothing is going to happen. He will be so scared that he will return the money on a few days!

He lied to criminal authorities, published documents under judicial secret, in fact reveled the identity of the prosecutor, attempted fraud with an invented arbiter, is attempting to embezzle 35500 euro for 4 years with excuses and lies and scammed 1.5 million on a crowdfunding, thanks to fraudulent volume and orderbooks. Civil court?!

JollyGood, thanks for another post.
A financial entity holds money as a trustee. There is no statutory limit for a judicial suit. Each day that he holds my money, it's another illegal act. He confessed that the money isn't his money. He even wrote that I'm still a customer and that he didn't cancelled my account.

Anyway, as a rule, the statute of limitations on Italian Law for crimes (prescrizione) is 6 years according to article 157 of the Italian criminal code: https://www.brocardi.it/codice-penale/libro-primo/titolo-vi/capo-i/art157.html (italian)

But many crimes have much more longer periods and several of his acts were committed much more recently, last year. He is in a very big trouble and will be for many years.

Sometimes I ask myself if the Rock CFO even thinks about what he writes here. Does with the above statement he wants to convince any reader that he wants to be sue on a civil court? After all his illegal and criminal acts?

I was expecting that he would keep his posts above the bare minimum plausibility. At least to avoid damaging even more his reputation by writing absurd things.

Sometimes he seems to forget that, as he points out on another post, all his partners know this thread and soon or later will read what he posts here. Let's forget about his few real customers.

He already knows I would never waste several years on a civil suit, it's because of this that he wrote that. He is scared is from a criminal complain. And he knows very well that he has all reasons to be.