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Thank you friends for your help, you were very essential to my growth in the world bitcoin. As for the questions related to the loan that I asked a long time ago. I had not really bitcoins, and needed funding for my research of a dermatological product. I got the loan in BTCJam, did not know how it worked here then made that mistake. Lesson learned =). As for the 100k that I had it is that I only got 2 loan BTC in BTCJam, so I had to sell my car to get finance 100% of my research. At the end he remained somewhat in which decided to invest in hardware to mine bitcoin. I bought in the Bitmain site, has not yet come, I hope to arrive in the coming days and is not stopped at the custom house. Thanks for the support of all.
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Hello everybody, I'm wanting to purchase some Antminers for mining bitcoin here at home, but I'm researching where to buy, I suggested the very site of Bitmain, but some people are saying that in the bitmain site they enrrolam much to send and often end up not sending or even the products arrive lost, or are still in the Customs and return to the sender after which you are not reimbursed. I wonder if this is true? The site is reliable? You recommend me? What would be the second option to buy Antminers? Thanks for the help...
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Seriously you still have hope of being reimbursed by Hashocean?
The HashOcean was always scam and was very noticeable knowing it, I was too obvious. I will mention a few points that I noticed when I met soon. How do I invest in several legitimate mining, could immediately identify the face that Hashocean was a ponzi ...
1 Images disclosed in photos of their "data centers", was not the Hashocean, but the Genesis Mining, all the pictures were in the social networks of Genesis. This already shows a contradiction of information!
2 ° The legitimate mining work with GH / s and TH / s, it never KH / s which is a measure of lesser value.
3 ° The measures KH / S would never give the profit shown in the calculator of them, those profits values can only be obtained with at least one TH / if it was easy to see, it was just use a calculator part to see that data did not add up.
4 ° Generally legitimate mining has a contract and you have to accept that agreement for power. Each purchasing power has to accept the agreement and always have electronic signature in hashocean had none of these, the maximum had was a term of use and privacy policy, which does not explain anything about mining power.
5 ° All legitimate mining, absolutely all, without exception, they charge maintenance fee. Or do you think will mine and mining costs will be free? Of course not right! Miners do not assume these rates, we have to pay. In Hashocean, had no maintenance fee.
6 The main point, Hashocean presented on its website 450 GH / s saying that it was the power of mining all "Data centers" it. But she had more than 700 thousand users. The power values it claimed to have could not afford all users. It was only add! simple accounts by the way. All users have earned 15 KH / s for free forever. We know that in 1000 KH / s is 1 MH / s, and 1000 MH / s is 1 GH / s. Therefore 1 GH / s has 1,000,000 KH / s. Now let the sums first we add the 15 KH / s each account receives for free. 15 * 700,000 = 10,500,000 KH / s = 10.5 GH / s. Now suppose that each user had 700 KH / s, which was the equivalent of a unit and the second hashocean, each unit gave the right to a video card. 700 * 700,000 = 490.000.00 KH / s = 490 GH / s. Only this value already exceeds the values they claimed to have in its "Data Centers". We all know that had users with much more power mining it. There were users who had 1,700,000 KH / s = 1.7 GH / s in your account. Let's add it up now 10.5 + 490 = 500.5 GH / s. Therefore to meet all its users Hashocean needed at least 500.5 GH / s. This amount corresponding to the "supposed Data Centers" are not equivalent to 1 or TH / s.
Now one impostante detail will be based on the mining equipment AntMiner. A AntMiner S7 is equivalent to 4.73 TH / s. Therefore Hash Ocean had no one AntMiner S7. (A AntMiner S7 can mine on average 1 BTC per month)
7 The supposed location of the 7 Data Centers HashOcean, looking at Google Maps, the site was a BAR.
I think after that I do not need to say anything else related to PONZI SCHEME THAT IS HASHOCEAN, striking more than 700,000 users.
TL;DR. But could say that so far, what I read was greatly explained by you and you are correct by all means in your calculations, don't know how people went in being fooled by these scammers so easy? Yeah! I do not know how thousands of people have fallen in this farce. This is the lack of research. People believe what they see first comment on hashocean. They do not seek more information about the company. They are convinced and are blinded with high profits that the mining company promised ... Just for this fact was already to be suspicious. I bet if the owners of HashOcean open another mining company, most users invest. I can not understand a thing. = S You are completely right about this people are falling for the over and over again its just crazy that they do this. Its not even profitable and worth it anymore, also you should know by now that they are all ponzi's.. Yes most are Ponzi. |
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Excuse me, I am Brazilian and as you might already realize my English is not very good. hahahah
I'll try to explain better, I wanted to know what the best hardware to mine, which is the most powerful, which is what has most benefit cost.
Here in Brazil have no electricity costs. I have available $ 100,000 to buy mining machine.
I heard that Antiminer manufactures the best machines. What do you suggest me?
With free power and 100k, I'd be buying a bunch of S9's If I bought 100k Antminer, will arrive in Brazil? Or was stopped at Customs (Alfandega ) |
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Excuse me, I am Brazilian and as you might already realize my English is not very good. hahahah
I'll try to explain better, I wanted to know what the best hardware to mine, which is the most powerful, which is what has most benefit cost.
Here in Brazil have no electricity costs. I have available $ 100,000 to buy mining machine.
I heard that Antiminer manufactures the best machines. What do you suggest me?
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I can only assume that you're using a 3rd party wallet service. This is not recommended as web wallets are bad and generally less safer in comparison to desktop wallets. If you are using blockchain.info or some other online wallet is very possible for it to occasionally have problems and for your transaction to 'not go through'. If you are using a desktop wallet, regardless of whether it is SPV (e.g. Electrum) or a full wallet (e.g. Bitcoin Core) this should never happen (unless you obviously aren't connected to the internet). Can someone explain to me what happened?
I assume that it's just a problem with Blockchain.info. You're right, wallet online are quite unsafe compared the wallets desktop. But the amount sent was just my wallet XAPO for my wallet on the desktop |
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Hello guys, how are you? I have a doubt. It is possible a transaction not be annotated by Blockchain? It is today 12 hours UTC, I sent 260,000 bits for another my wallet. But so far not arrived, I seek the transaction id in blockchain and says: "Sorry We Could not find any blocks or transactions matching this hash", but I seek the same id in tradeblock and says that the transaction has not been confirmed. I check in my wallet in blockchain and shows no pending transaction, but in tradeblock shows that the value I sent is pending. Can someone explain to me what happened? It is normal that happen?
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Seriously you still have hope of being reimbursed by Hashocean?
The HashOcean was always scam and was very noticeable knowing it, I was too obvious. I will mention a few points that I noticed when I met soon. How do I invest in several legitimate mining, could immediately identify the face that Hashocean was a ponzi ...
1 Images disclosed in photos of their "data centers", was not the Hashocean, but the Genesis Mining, all the pictures were in the social networks of Genesis. This already shows a contradiction of information!
2 ° The legitimate mining work with GH / s and TH / s, it never KH / s which is a measure of lesser value.
3 ° The measures KH / S would never give the profit shown in the calculator of them, those profits values can only be obtained with at least one TH / if it was easy to see, it was just use a calculator part to see that data did not add up.
4 ° Generally legitimate mining has a contract and you have to accept that agreement for power. Each purchasing power has to accept the agreement and always have electronic signature in hashocean had none of these, the maximum had was a term of use and privacy policy, which does not explain anything about mining power.
5 ° All legitimate mining, absolutely all, without exception, they charge maintenance fee. Or do you think will mine and mining costs will be free? Of course not right! Miners do not assume these rates, we have to pay. In Hashocean, had no maintenance fee.
6 The main point, Hashocean presented on its website 450 GH / s saying that it was the power of mining all "Data centers" it. But she had more than 700 thousand users. The power values it claimed to have could not afford all users. It was only add! simple accounts by the way. All users have earned 15 KH / s for free forever. We know that in 1000 KH / s is 1 MH / s, and 1000 MH / s is 1 GH / s. Therefore 1 GH / s has 1,000,000 KH / s. Now let the sums first we add the 15 KH / s each account receives for free. 15 * 700,000 = 10,500,000 KH / s = 10.5 GH / s. Now suppose that each user had 700 KH / s, which was the equivalent of a unit and the second hashocean, each unit gave the right to a video card. 700 * 700,000 = 490.000.00 KH / s = 490 GH / s. Only this value already exceeds the values they claimed to have in its "Data Centers". We all know that had users with much more power mining it. There were users who had 1,700,000 KH / s = 1.7 GH / s in your account. Let's add it up now 10.5 + 490 = 500.5 GH / s. Therefore to meet all its users Hashocean needed at least 500.5 GH / s. This amount corresponding to the "supposed Data Centers" are not equivalent to 1 or TH / s.
Now one impostante detail will be based on the mining equipment AntMiner. A AntMiner S7 is equivalent to 4.73 TH / s. Therefore Hash Ocean had no one AntMiner S7. (A AntMiner S7 can mine on average 1 BTC per month)
7 The supposed location of the 7 Data Centers HashOcean, looking at Google Maps, the site was a BAR.
I think after that I do not need to say anything else related to PONZI SCHEME THAT IS HASHOCEAN, striking more than 700,000 users.
TL;DR. But could say that so far, what I read was greatly explained by you and you are correct by all means in your calculations, don't know how people went in being fooled by these scammers so easy? Yeah! I do not know how thousands of people have fallen in this farce. This is the lack of research. People believe what they see first comment on hashocean. They do not seek more information about the company. They are convinced and are blinded with high profits that the mining company promised ... Just for this fact was already to be suspicious. I bet if the owners of HashOcean open another mining company, most users invest. I can not understand a thing. = S |
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Seriously you still have hope of being reimbursed by Hashocean?
The HashOcean was always scam and was very noticeable knowing it, I was too obvious. I will mention a few points that I noticed when I met soon. How do I invest in several legitimate mining, could immediately identify the face that Hashocean was a ponzi ...
1 Images disclosed in photos of their "data centers", was not the Hashocean, but the Genesis Mining, all the pictures were in the social networks of Genesis. This already shows a contradiction of information!
2 ° The legitimate mining work with GH / s and TH / s, it never KH / s which is a measure of lesser value.
3 ° The measures KH / S would never give the profit shown in the calculator of them, those profits values can only be obtained with at least one TH / if it was easy to see, it was just use a calculator part to see that data did not add up.
4 ° Generally legitimate mining has a contract and you have to accept that agreement for power. Each purchasing power has to accept the agreement and always have electronic signature in hashocean had none of these, the maximum had was a term of use and privacy policy, which does not explain anything about mining power.
5 ° All legitimate mining, absolutely all, without exception, they charge maintenance fee. Or do you think will mine and mining costs will be free? Of course not right! Miners do not assume these rates, we have to pay. In Hashocean, had no maintenance fee.
6 The main point, Hashocean presented on its website 450 GH / s saying that it was the power of mining all "Data centers" it. But she had more than 700 thousand users. The power values it claimed to have could not afford all users. It was only add! simple accounts by the way. All users have earned 15 KH / s for free forever. We know that in 1000 KH / s is 1 MH / s, and 1000 MH / s is 1 GH / s. Therefore 1 GH / s has 1,000,000 KH / s. Now let the sums first we add the 15 KH / s each account receives for free. 15 * 700,000 = 10,500,000 KH / s = 10.5 GH / s. Now suppose that each user had 700 KH / s, which was the equivalent of a unit and the second hashocean, each unit gave the right to a video card. 700 * 700,000 = 490.000.00 KH / s = 490 GH / s. Only this value already exceeds the values they claimed to have in its "Data Centers". We all know that had users with much more power mining it. There were users who had 1,700,000 KH / s = 1.7 GH / s in your account. Let's add it up now 10.5 + 490 = 500.5 GH / s. Therefore to meet all its users Hashocean needed at least 500.5 GH / s. This amount corresponding to the "supposed Data Centers" are not equivalent to 1 or TH / s.
Now one impostante detail will be based on the mining equipment AntMiner. A AntMiner S7 is equivalent to 4.73 TH / s. Therefore Hash Ocean had no one AntMiner S7. (A AntMiner S7 can mine on average 1 BTC per month)
7 The supposed location of the 7 Data Centers HashOcean, looking at Google Maps, the site was a BAR.
I think after that I do not need to say anything else related to PONZI SCHEME THAT IS HASHOCEAN, striking more than 700,000 users.
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I particularly like the very genesis, invested $ 1,000.00 in them and am getting great results, they always pay on time. I honestly have no complaints. As for ROI, all my gains in Geneses are compatible with my calculations. I made some calculations using the hash moment the difficulty, the costs and the end result is always what I get in Geneses. I do not know what was by experience of you that Mineradora Cloud, just know that my being great. Let's hope it stays that way ...
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Using this calculator here: it shows the calculations alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator mining with increased difficulty of the blocks and halving. With it you will have a base about how you will win.
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Has anyone heard that bsave.io/ site?
This site is reliable?
Has anyone used?
bsave.io/
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I did not quite understand how the platform works.
What are the security media platform of its investors?
What checks are made to qualify the score of a borrower?
The interest that investors earn are predetermined?
Because investors would use this platform? What she's different?
What guarantees the platform if borrowers do not pay?
What is the platform position in relation to the transfer process between investor and borrower?
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Still for sale ? If you could send me more details?
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After much research, I believe that Genesis is legitimate. so I decided to invest $ 300.00 in it. Before did some calculations to find out how I could win, https://alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator used the calculator to create an average of how much gain. today got the first payment. The amount was slightly below the calculations made, but it was to be expected since the mining began in the middle of the day. Now I will wait to see the performance and see if compença invest more. I think I'll invest with caution in order not to have any damage, after all, mine in the cloud is very risky. Thanks to all for the tips. You are awesome =) |
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I have 5 Antminer S7, (which of about 23.65 TH / s). Currently gain on average 0.05678472 per day mineirando Bitcoins, I have no energy costs. Does it make more mining for other currency and swapping by BTC?
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I could even lend you, the more you have no guarantees. No guarantee, had hardly a loan here. Even more for being a beginner who seems to have created the account here just to borrow.
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His Twitter account can not be used as a valid warranty. You hardly get an unsecured loan.
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kkkk that people try to deceive people in all possible ways I huh ... What's worse still people falling into these traps ... The fact is hashocean was pure ponzi ... They will not reimburse anyone. Eventually they applied a blow to more than 700 thousand users ... Now we can only regret ... I'm glad I did not invest in this farçante ... When I would invest it fell to my lot =)
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