Ben bu cloud sirketlerinin hicbirine guvenmem.Hepsi sahtekar.Isteyen gitsin yatirsin.Umarim ben yaniliyorum da gercekten kazanan vardir.

Evin elektrigi o kadar makineye guc saglayacak mi peki?

Ben Kanada da yasiyorum.burda da elektrik pahali yalniz Turkiye kadar degil.Ben de cok yeniyim ama arastirmalarima gore
gelecek ayda ki bitcoin yarilamasindan  sonra elektirige para verenler kazanamiyacak gibi gozukuyor.Kucukler elindeki cihazlari satacak meydan buyuklere kalacak.
Saatte 10cents Usd den cok ise kwatt degeri cok pahali.Vergileri icinde 5cents usd / saat kwat icin iyi fiyat yoksa madencilikte para yok ya da solar olacak ki degsin.

Eger durustsen ve verebileceksen borcunu umarim bulursun.Ne diyeyim kolay gelsin.Verene de helal olsun.
Aslin da veren bulursun ama kimse seni tanimadigi icin ortada bir guven sorunu var.Ama yine de bol sanslar.

 I believe many small miners will stop because of cost of running of mining and not enough rewards in return.And miners who are big will take over  their place.There wont place for small miners in near future.

I guess you did not see. I used 12.5 bitcoin as reward after july 2016
for calculation of difficulty I was told 8%- 10% increase every 11 days.If you multiply todays difficulty x 10% you will see decrease in
earning %7 .Thats how I find earning.You can create excel and calculate.Since  Iam new and hear from others everyone says diffulty is min 5 max 20%
What is the difficulty rate
What do I need to correct
Even tough Iam new I sense if you dont have free power and have not mining long time ago to save bitcoins mining will  not profitable .

Thanks.I would love to get s9 yet they are all sold out.Since Iam new to this yet I do understand more hashpower is more bitcoin .
There are lots of variables to watch for and I want to make sure Iam getting correct info from people who knows way more than me.
I live in Kitchener Canada and electricity is expensive here. Its about 10cents Usd per hour if you get the average.Plus delivery, tax.
Electricity Charges
Period   Time   Cost
Off-peak   Weekdays 7 pm to 7 am Weekends & Holidays - all Day   8.7ȼ/kWh
Mid-peak   Weekdays 7 am to 11 am and 5 pm to 7pm   13.2ȼ/kWh
On-peak   Weekdays 11 am to 5 pm   18.0ȼ/kWh

even with s9 that does not look very profitable with cost of electricity, bitcoin halving and increase in difficulty.
I need more research and find a place for better electricity rates, and hopefully cost  for s9 drop by then.

Thanks for responds.

If I go with FACTS not any assumptions.

My hydro cost off peak time:8.7 cents
Peak time:18 cents
Mid peak time: 13.2 cents
Average: 12 cents kwh Cad or 10 cents Usd
s7 Hash Rate: 4730 ths
s7 power consumptions 1293 kws
pool fees: 2%
bitcon price: 669 usd
Block Reward:12.5
Bitcoin difficulty: 209453158595.38100 increase 8%-%10 every 11 days
With all these facts EARNING is:weekly EARNING is 26.59 usd.
http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator/?h=4730.00&p=1300.00&pc=0.10&pf=2&d=209453158595.38100000&r=12.5&er=669&hc=0.00

When I multiply current difficulty with 8% and check next week EARNING is 7% less than this week EARNIING.I also calculated third week difficulty with same  number and it gives me 7% decrease in EARNING every week.
For example: current difficulty 209453158595.38100 x 1.08= 226209411283.0115
with this difficulty weekly EARNING is 24.62 usd .That profit is 7% less than first week EARNING (26.59usd)

If all these calculations are correct AND difficulty is close to my calculations my EARNING AFTER 52 WEEKS IS 345.1534872
Minus power cost 1132usd.
Only if bitcoin price will increase a lot  and difficulty decrease s7 will profit.
    weekly EARNING EARNING after difficultY( 7% DECREASE EARNING EVERY WEEK)
week 1    $26.59     $24.73
week 2    $26.59     $23.00
week 3    $26.59     $21.39
week 4    $26.59     $19.89
week 5    $26.59     $18.50
week 6    $26.59     $17.20
week 7    $26.59     $16.00
week 8    $26.59     $14.88
week 9    $26.59     $13.84
week 10    $26.59     $12.87
week 11    $26.59     $11.97
week 12    $26.59     $11.13
week 13    $26.59     $10.35
week 14    $26.59     $9.63
week 15    $26.59     $8.95
week 16    $26.59     $8.33
week 17    $26.59     $7.74
week 18    $26.59     $7.20
week 19    $26.59     $6.70
week 20    $26.59     $6.23
week 21    $26.59     $5.79
week 22    $26.59     $5.39
week 23    $26.59     $5.01
week 24    $26.59     $4.66
week 25    $26.59     $4.33
week 26    $26.59     $4.03
week 27    $26.59     $3.75
week 28    $26.59     $3.49
week 29    $26.59     $3.24
week 30    $26.59     $3.01
week 31    $26.59     $2.80
week 32    $26.59     $2.61
week 33    $26.59     $2.42
week 34    $26.59     $2.25
week 35    $26.59     $2.10
week 36    $26.59     $1.95
week 37    $26.59     $1.81
week 38    $26.59     $1.69
week 39    $26.59     $1.57
week 40    $26.59     $1.46
week 41    $26.59     $1.36
week 42    $26.59     $1.26
week 43    $26.59     $1.17
week 44    $26.59     $1.09
week 45    $26.59     $1.01
week 46    $26.59     $0.94
week 47    $26.59     $0.88
week 48    $26.59     $0.82
week 49    $26.59     $0.76
week 50    $26.59     $0.71
week 51    $26.59     $0.66
week 52    $26.59     $0.61

According to coinwarz.com calculations
My weekly profit after July 09/2016(Bitcoin Halving) is:
56.32 usd x 52 weeks= 2928 Usd ( If I go with weekly calculations,bitcoin difficulty, and bitcoin price  stay same.)

Yet 2928 Usd does not include hardware cost.Therefore I will be break even after a year. If bitcoin price stay same, bitcoin difficulty stay same as well.
Can you check the numbers and let me know if I'm missing anything.

If I have a Antminer s9
Hash Rate is : 12900 ghs
Power watts: 1275+%7= 1365 watts
power cost:10 cents
pool fee: 2%
Bitcoin difficulty: 209453158595.38100
Block REward:12.5 After July 09/ 2016
Bitcoin Usd:638 june 22/2016
Cost of hardware:2100 usd+ power supply+ shipping=Around 3000Usd

Link is Below
http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator/?h=12900.00&p=1365&pc=0.05&pf=2.00&d=209453158595.38100000&r=12.50000000&er=638.00000000&hc=0.00

do you recommend s9
how much btc you mined so far

I would love to know what is the most accurate sites to calculate bitcoin mining profit.
I have checked may sites and enter same numbers yet profit does not match.
For example for s9 I enter following information.Since halving is close I calculate the reward as 12.5
According to coin warz
Hash Rate : 12900
Power Cost:0.10 cents
Power:1275 W+10%=
Pool fees: 2%
Block Reward: 12.5
Hardware cost: 2100+ power supply+ shipping to Canada=Around 2700 usd
Bitcoin price:670 usd
My profit after 1 year:2817 usd

If difficulty stay same or increase little, and bitcoin price stay same  I will be break even after a year.
Let me know if Iam making a mistake or forgetting something else to include.

I am holding it and want to hold it years.How do you decide when to sell? will it be worth 5000$ maybe $10000?

Kanada da yasiyorum .Bitcoin e cok yeniyim.Bende bitcoin mining e baslamak istiyorum.Ayrica bitcoin de aldim bir sure once.
s9 satilmis gec kaldik fakat s7 ile ,elektirik uretimi saatte 9-10 cent olan maaliyetle, 3 veya daha fazla s7 alarak kazanc edilebilr mi halen?
Tavsiyeleriniz nelerdir?Yardimci olursaniz sevinirim.
Pool larda dikkat etmem gereken seyler nelerdir?
tesekkurler bol kazanclar.