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I should also add a number of people wish to see me move on. If there is consensus , no problem I will step down.
Please step down. Please delete .rocks/ have it forward to .com I imagine you have plenty of personal trumps. It's in your own financial interest to walk away. Im not surprised you want to see me go. But lets just wait and see how others decide to vote. This should prove to be interesting. http://www.strawpoll.me/10658589 |
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Chicken65 has moved in the right direction and I believe he will continue to do so.
I know he is as exhausted as I am.
I feel like we are beginning to get back on track and am going to sign out for the night.
Tomorrow, we will complete this resolution and begin discussions about our next steps.
My opinion is that once we have trust secured on the fund that we begin at least internally vetting the people that have come to be know as the TrumpCoin "team".
I will see you all tomorrow. Please remain positive and respectful to one another and shift your focus back to the future ahead.
I second this. The best way to ensure the coin continues at all, is if we keep discussions civil, clean and calm. It is very good to see that Chicken65 has seen some sense in reason. |
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Just talked with the Trumpcontent creator. He's an aussie, and doesn't sound scottish (if that is the rumor)
He's his own guy and sounds fine. I'm 90 percent sure he is not Chicken.
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Okay, here is the solution to this problem,and its very simple: As a community, we organize and elect a new leadership team and ignore Chicken65 (and his sockpuppets).
All activity by Chicken65 will simply be cast out as a rogue Trumpcoin fan that has nothing to do with the official management team. As "payment" Chicken65 may keep his Trump Fund and whatever other coins he may have accumulated, and do what he likes with it. If he wants to donate, great, if not, oh well.
It is important that the community comes together and elect new leaders. Whoever owns the .com domain should chime in.
The good news is that if we can fix the blockchain, then a fork doesnt even need to happen and this transition can go even smoother. If someone with some technical expertise could shine some light on the question of fork or no fork, and the status of the blockchain.
We also need to vet the old leaders, particularly CantStump. We all know Chicken65 uses sockpuppets and has several alt accounts.
Finally, I would float the possibility of creating a separate backers forum, possibly on a simple free forum website where we can consolidate everyone ( I know theres people on /biz/ reading this) that is interested in the project.
If chicken wants to cash out, let him. If he donates, then all the better. We hold the most amount of coins as THE PEOPLE. Which cannot be taken away from us. Chicken is all but one man. We cannot allow him to ruin us. |
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i'm really glad you came here and posted your anecdotal evidence on why they aren't in line with eachother. Did you think they were gonna make it more obvious than it already is? Did you think there was gonna be 0 things that made it seem like they're not working together?
Chicken orchestrated this and at worst has profited a couple 100k coins off it. People here who want to lend their time to making a scammer rich just for a little profit on their 1k investment 4 months ago in march or before the pump, then be my guest. If you guys ever get rid of chicken and are able to get any kind of media attention it will quickly be known that a scammer crashed the coin to accumulate a massive amount of total supply and everyone is at his mercy.
The coin is dead, sorry for your loss of profit to everybody who bought 100k+ worth of coins at 1/20th the current price months ago. You're still a winner, move on to the next project. It would be anyones kneejerk reaction to try and save the project if they're sitting on 100k+ coins and for that I do not mind your shilling. The truth has to be put out there though. The coin is hopeless now and I hope you big holders see that as well.
Can we create a new coin or something? I've been thinking about this. Creating a new coin would be difficult. Not only would we lose Trump, as a icon(which is very important for publicity and buyers), we would be hardpressed to find a new one that isn't him. We couldn't make a new Trumpcoin because it would connect to Chicken, and wouldn't look good. |
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I just want to say that from my interactions with Chicken65, and how I have seen him act, that I believe he is one of the most honest people in crypto. It is unfortunate that the "new dev team" were a bunch of scammers. Most likely it was a small group of individuals pretending that they were multiple people. Pathetic. Unfortunately, there will always be scammers, and you always have to be aware of them. I don't see how Chicken65 could have know that the group he was handing the coin over to would do this. The good news is that Chicken65 was smart enough not to heed their calls of handing over the 200k TrumpFund, because if he did, they most assuredly would have dumped that too. If the TrumpFund ever does leave Chicken65's hands, it needs to be to someone who is famous and has much more to lose in reputation than the fund is worth (Alex Jones or the like). They would also have to cryptographically prove themselves via PGP before the fund was transferred. I'm personally fine with Chicken65 holding on to the TrumpFund, because I believe he has integrity and good intentions. Maybe the fund needs multisig to prevent someone from trying to hack him. Just a thought. I'm worried about who the multisig participates would be. It could be a terrible idea if the multisig participates are bad actors.
I still think trying to get our movement mentioned on the Alex Jones Show would be a good idea. Also, the neat thing about TrumpCoin is that it is a grassroots movement and not a corporate SuperPAC. I think that Trump would be more likely to take our money because of this fact.
Chicken65, in regards to the fact that according to you the TrumpFund needs to be bigger, you ought to simply hard fork the coin and issue another 300k to the TrumpFund to reach the 500k needed. It is going to be difficult to raise another 300k without doing this. Just hard fork, dilute and be done with it. Everyone takes a little off the top via dilution, and it is fair. The primary goal of TrumpCoin is helping Trump, and this fits in line with that motive.
I think it's unfair to call the devs scammers. It is currently Fourth of July weekend. Give them time. Coin isn't moving that quickly, yet. |
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Would you mind checking your skype?
Have sent through multiple messages
The plot thickens. |
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One step at a time here. Let's give a chance for the core dev's of Trumpcoin to speak - Signal7 was on today. I know he handled my helpdesk tickets with the block explorer.
We can either fork the coin, or create a new one. Remember that alot of time and energy has already been put into this coin, we have 2 videos up and the .com domain purchased for quite a bit of money. We also have other satellite sites up promoting the coin.
I, and I hope the rest of us, would like to hear from the people who invested their time and money on their thoughts on how to proceed.
Keep in mind guys it is the 4th of July weekend and things might be slow. So please give them a chance before just calling for a brand new coin when we might be able to salvage Trumpcoin.
The work put in by the new dev team is amazing. They carried this coin to the heights it achieved and the coin can be built around that work to reach those heights again. The problem is Chicken holding the trumpfund hostage and being impossible to reason with, this coin cannot rise again under these circumstances. If we were to try to cut chicken out of this coin it could only come on the back of people like DreadLordColi, Signal7 and TrumpContentCreator who I credit with 90% of the success we've seen the last week. The options from what I can gather is A) Fork it and deal with the messy cleanup B) Create a brand new coin C) Give up I vote for option A. We can certainly salvage the coin. ETH had a similar issue and yes they took a beating but they will recover. I absolutely agree that the new dev team did an amazing job. At this point Chicken65's involvement needs to be pushed out. He is not fit for this kind of project. I think that from the way he has been acting that he is just out of his depth. He just doesn't have the balls to handle this project anywhere past $100k marketcap. He just can't handle the pressure. In fact I think he never really thought this project would go past $200k and be anything more than a simple pump and dump scheme. Clearly its turned into something much more. However, its critical that we fork this ASAP and get this sorted. I just hope the devs can chime in here. They cant log on quickly enough. It may be entirely possible that the dev team was Chicken all along, and that this is his con game. I don't want to fan rumors, but I want to just put it out there. It is very difficult to cut Chicken out of the picture. He holds the fund, and will not release it under no circumstances. IF he is a sham, he will do more dmagae to our wallets than he has already done. I vote a new coin. |
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I propose a new coin. It is clear that Chicken's complete unprofessionalism will lose him money. Fine. Wheeling back on Trumpcoin is impossible with him still around.
I think we can deal better as a new coin. Any ideas?
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That is too bad. I had given him the chance, and he shows his true colors. Gentlemen, it's been a good ride. It's unfortunate that Chicken had turned out like this. You know what to do. |
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If we can prevent more blaming and toxic, we should.
So far Chicken is holding to my ultimatum, which I am delighted to see.
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Hello. I've been following Trumpcoins for some time, and have a moderate of 5700 coins. I felt the need to create a new account because of the banter back and forth and wish to interject for a moment.
I just want to put this on record, and whether or not anybody will respond, or if Chicken will respond, I will try my best to respond.
This argument needs to be completed very quickly. You must all realize that the arguing is damaging the coin, as newcomers are allergic to toxicity and rumors. However, no amount of proof from Chicken will prove his innocence (if he is) and no amount of argument will actually help.
This is a reminder.
Chicken, for you, I am not asking you of anything. I'm staying completely as a spectator in this, but I want to share a comment. What you're doing, if you are truly innocent (which I don't doubt), is damaging the coin deeply. If you truly wish the coin to reach another high, you would do well to leave this thread and sleep on it for a day or two. Come back when things are more settled. It is clear that people are angry, you are angry, and new buyers + holders are getting sweaty. No amount of name calling from both sides will help this issue.
For you, the person reading this, a poster of this thread, I urge you to stop as well. This forum needs to be kept cleaned and kept civil, for the sake of the coin. While you have been arguing, the coin's price has been plummeting.
For the sake of the coin, for the sake of Trump, please stop, and be logical. Do not be rash, and do not be so quick to blame.
Actually, I'll settle it like this. If Chicken truly is a man of his word, and is devoted to this coin, he will understand that responding to anybody, including to this post will damage the coin even further. If he cannot see this, and responds after this post, consider him a sham.
Have a drink, relax gentlemen. The more you argue, the more money we lose and the more this coin plummet.
I'm sure you will show us that you are in the clear, yes Chicken? I have no ill towards you, I'm just sick of my money being killed by endless bickering on both sides. You have the most power, so the most eyes are on you. I'm interested to see what you'll do.
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