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Seems to me the "Online Poker Scene" is as good if not Better than before Black Friday, there's a whole generation of players who don't even remember what it was like when the Americans were still allowed to participate.
How ironic that in the home of Poker a man can't come home after a day's work, sit at a PC and play an online 6 max, a 180 seat tourney or a 1/2 NLHE, this is all for your benefit of course you moron, heaven forbid you might just want to unwind and have a bit of fun.
The lesson for Bitcoiners is simple, sooner or later the American Govt. Will make Bitcoin immoral, illegal or just plain unAmerican and ban the use of the afore mentioned Bitcoin.
Rest assured the rest of the world will function just as well as before once the dust settles, for a while there will be a vacuum there, but you know how nature abhors a vacuum.
Once again it will be so sad to see the people who, like poker, did the most to promote Bitcoin, be left standing on the side of the road whilst the Bitcoin Bus races on into the future.
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Can I download and install the Btq client to a Chromebook?
Currently running on a Windows 8 laptop, but would be more convenient on a Chromebook.
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Why would anyone bother to troll this forum when it is so much easier to contact the NSA and request detailed analysis going back to post no1 ( in triplicate)
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Remember 4/15/2011 , the day the American authorities killed online poker for my American mates?
Black Friday, when the DOJ decided that Americans simply couldn't be trusted with their own money, seriously, the country that hosts the WSOP, the home of poker, the home of arguably the best online ( and B&M) players in the world and they are isolated behind their routers, or forced to move outside the US in order to pursue their livelihood
Poker thrives, in Europe, Asia, Australia, but for me it's not the same, the spirit of the game has died.
So when your American authorities turn off the tap on Bitcoin for Americans ( for your own security off course) and BTC rates are posted in zlotties or yen or dong, it'll be time for me to cash in my BTC in exchange for poker chips and hit the felt one more time.
Don't worry about "foreigners" watching you, worry about your own government, particularly in light of what's happened in the last 4 weeks, ( I'm looking at you NSA), no doubt an encrypted copy of YOUR wallet is sitting in an air conditioned storage facility in Utah, waiting for some nice agent to have a go at cracking the encryption, or simply assume you have BTC, so therefore you're engaging in Un American activities.
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Let's use an analogy to see clearly what's going on.
Imagine a large gold vein is discovered in a nearby mountainside. At first the gold is so plentiful that anyone can get in with nothing more than a pie pan and pan for gold (CPU mining for BTC), and make a profit doing so. People see these other people mining the cheap and easy gold and jump in, but the cheap and easy gold starts to go away, and mining becomes more difficult. Mining with a cheap pie pan isn't worth it anymore, so some people quit, while others buy more expensive equipment, say a sluice or dredge and get to work obtaining the more-difficult-to-mine gold (GPU mining for BTC). As more and more gold is mined, eventually even this equipment doesn't get you much, and now folks either have to buy more expensive equipment to mine the gold, or quit. Some people invest in large scale mining plants to get the difficult-to-mine gold (ASIC mining for BTC), while those with pie pans complain that it's too hostile for new miners to make any profit. They have no right to complain, the time of easy pickings is gone. Does this mean that gold will cease being a valuable currency? No, it just means you either have to invest real money into machines that can mine profitably, or don't mine at all and just buy BTC outright.
I really like your analogy, here in Central South Australia there are lots of isolated, heavily guarded, gold mines, where mining companies have invested hundreds of millions of dollars to extract Gold and Silver Copper and other minerals, I liken them to the ASIC miners for BTC., (btw, they provide lots of employent in the meantime, plus royalty cheques for the local landowners) every one benefits, including the economy. Meantime there's old mate in Central Victoria, who makes a very nice living panning for Gold, and has done so for years, problem is, he's the only one that benefits, not even his family as he's a single bloke, I liken him to a GPU miner. To my mind the ASIC miners are an integral part of BTC, without them BTC will founder and if you follow the block chain to its logical conclusion, eventually, (not in my lifetime) the only return the miners will get is the transaction fees. Sure the big miners make huge profits, but in the meantime everyone benefits, no doubt several people will tell me this is not a good thing, but then I'm not an economist, but ever the optimist. |
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Summer? What summer, winter just started here, mean time I'm reading Patrick Rothfuss' " The wise man's fear", sequel to "the name of the wind", could be very prescient.
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The Australian Crime Commission's acting chief executive, Paul Jevtovic, says the virtual currency's anonymity makes it highly attractive to criminals and money launderers, though little is yet known about how widespread it is in illicit markets. Bitcoin has become of growing concern to the agency. ''The ACC is currently working with partners to explore the Bitcoin market and other digital currencies, to better understand its size and criminal threat,'' he said. Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/more-than-play-money-20130531-2nh5p.html#ixzz2VJHgzdY4Yeah right, stop Aussies using Bitcoin and overnight all illicit practises will cease, guns, drugs, porn you name it. What a load of crap. Ah we'll, one door closes, another one opens, heard there's a bloke selling shares in the Sydney Harbour Bridge. |
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You make a fair point OP, gays for the most part are well educated, professional people, usually double income households, the pink dollar is more than welcome in most places and highly valued.
As for Bitcoin, I'm sure they'll work it out for themselves, just like the rest of us had to,
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The problem isn't specifically Mt.Gox,
Seriously? After MPEx released enough information about how to correctly design an exchange? They should have known better. Seriously? After I read the link supplied by YOU in your argument, you tell me MPex isn't tech press, well I'll be buttered on both sides. And if you're using a quote, please include the whole quote, don't selectively edit, you deleted sgrc.com, the wisdom contained in this forum and the "Let's talk Bitcoin" podcast, very convenient. Keith |
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Stop living in your dream world.
Account created February 10, 2012. 4th post made February 28, 2012. 5th post made March 05, 2013. So...you bought it? Care to elaborate please?
There is lots of innuendo here, lots of reading between the lines, fact is I've had no problems with Mt. Gox, no lag, no latency, money in, BTC out, they're doing everything I'd expect an exchange to do, in a timely manner, so what is the story?
Account created March 24, 2013. Soo...there was some sort of solar flare in March or what? Did you actually read and comprehend the linked material or are you yet another one of the hands in ears "lalala I know better than all of you because I'm me and rain doesn't exist because my three weeks' experience doesn't contain rain"? Sort of unfair to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed person, but I need to make an exception in your case, mainly because you have the gall to post personal dissatisfaction as a PSA. My engagement with BTC goes back about 2 years. Because I'm not an expert I engage with people that really DO know of which they speak, people like Steve Gibson from sgrc.com, people on this forum, the tech press and more recently the " Let's talk Bitcoin" podcast. Based on my experience I'll continue to support Mt. Gox, they've done me no harm at all, on the contrary I believe their service has been excellent. Made a point all my life not to become susceptible to the negative influences of other people (SNIOPS), you Sir, are a SNIOP. As for rain, we experience approximately 300 mm per annum here, but you get that, living on the edge of desert country, perhaps it's you that's a bit water logged. Keith |
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Mt. Gox really is the only show in town. Oh, absolutely. That it is, but not for the reasons you think it is. Care to elaborate please? There is lots of innuendo here, lots of reading between the lines, fact is I've had no problems with Mt. Gox, no lag, no latency, money in, BTC out, they're doing everything I'd expect an exchange to do, in a timely manner, so what is the story? |
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Errr, Emmm, at the risk of being impudent and at the risk of being told to go and multiply in a far off location, may I humbly suggest you lend an ear to E7 of the Let's talk Bitcoin podcast where it is more than adequately explained, by people who have more knowledge in their little finger than I would hope to garner in a lifetime, why Mt. Gox really is the only show in town.
Going to make a small donation to this most excellent show right now, with BTC purchased on Gox today, suggest you may do the same. ( make a small donation that is, feel free to get your coins anywhere you choose)
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Tried to educate myself OP, so far I've had not even one inkling of a problem with Mt. Gox, verification was not a problem and I've been happily trading ever since, my opinion is Gox is a good thing and when you're on a good thing, stick to it.
From a purely educational point of view, could you please suggest another exchange, where I, as an Australian, can safely and securely trade?
Take a look at WeExchange.co, (not com, that is confusing), I believe they are set up in Australia. Thank you Sir, will check them out. |
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Tried to educate myself OP, so far I've had not even one inkling of a problem with Mt. Gox, verification was not a problem and I've been happily trading ever since, my opinion is Gox is a good thing and when you're on a good thing, stick to it.
From a purely educational point of view, could you please suggest another exchange, where I, as an Australian, can safely and securely trade?
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All I would say is if you have any bitcoins or cash at MtGox; get it out now! You can't fight the US gov, you just have to stay out of their way.
Seriously! A little country the size of New Mexico kicked the shit out of the USA for decades making USA troops withdraw in shame because a small group of highly motivated radicals back home like the people on this forum refused to bend over and take it up the ass. I'm talking about Vietnam for those that can't figure it out. Vietnam didn't kick the shit out of me or anyone I know. Nor did we withdraw in shame. We outfought them in every major battle and most small ones. Americans did not want to continue the fight and thus lost the will to continue supporting the South Vietnamese Government. We withheld supplies and aid And they fell to the North. Those are the facts. I have friends who died kicking the shit out of them. Words have meaning. Please be careful you don't dishonor the memory of those who fell in battle. I fought there and so did many others in this forum. While Vietnam fell those who died fought for freedom, human dignity and for their loved ones back home. These ideas were worth dying for then and there are Americans and others dying thruout the world for those same ideals now. +1 You speak the truth brother, you, we, have always been able to hold our heads up high. |
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Feeling a bit left out. Didn't get the pm with the phishing link.
Same here, didn't win the Bitcoin and didn't even rate a phishing link, guess Ill have to change my aftershave or something. |
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I've been lucky enough in my lifetime to have seen and be the the beneficiary of massive technological changes in society, brought about in every instance by people who thought outside the square, people who, for whatever motivated them, pursued an idea and brought it to reality and added to the sum of total human experience.
Geeks, ( I soooo detest that term) already rule the world, always have, not going to bore you with a long list of names, but go back to Archimedes or Einstein for instance, Bell, Dunlop, Baird etc. all Geeks,
I'm siting here typing this on an iPad, when my first electronic experience, 50 years ago was soldering together the parts that made up a crystal radio set.
Banking was something you did by physically going to a "Bank" and talking to "Bank Tellers" and we used real money, ("Bank notes" and "Coins")
Thank you for inventing and propagating Bitcoin, another great step forward, I salute you.
Don't worry about being "cool" in 20 years OP, you are really "cool" right now, here, today.
As for ruling the world, you're welcome, have at it, it's all yours, just keep in mind the ancient wisdom of " don't ask for what you want, then you may get it"
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I totally agree with the OP - We need some serious simplicity before bitcoin takes off.
I'm sure that there are people here who remember how difficult it was to get on line with a Windows 3.1 PC.
OMG! This means Windows 3.11 for workgroups is next? Or even Windows 95? Shit just kept getting worse. Aaaaargh, I'm old enough to remember when getting online meant hooking up to a BBS on VIC20 via a 1200 Baud modem, there was no Internet and that's about the stage we're at with Bitcoin, we're working with BASIC and at machine code level. It won't be until there's a Windows 95 version of Bitcoin that you will see mass adoption of Bitcoin and I have no doubt that time will eventuate, build it and they will come. That doesn't mean those people are stupid, not every one has an affinity for grinding 1's and 0's all day long, as a mechanic I often despair at how little people really know about their cars and what makes them tick under the hood and I wonder if the OP really knows what he's doing when he sticks the key in the ignition and shifts into D for dumb. BTW, my 80 year old mum is a great grandmother, uses a PC at home for email, banking, skyping, Facebook etc. and an iPhone on the road, stop stereotyping older people OP, you'll get there yourself soon enough. |
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May I humbly suggest you set up your own server, pay for the bandwidth, employ staff, lease some offices, lease some office furniture and fitings advertise your presence and willingness to trade.
Build it and they will come.
Now explain to me again how you intend to monetise it?
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Laugh all you want I apparently have a large sum of money waiting for me in a bank overseas and right now a lawyer is wiring the money to me (millions of dollars) and all I had to do was claim the money and send him a few measly thousand usd to cover the transfer
hahahah - Im rich
When the funds arrive, maybe you'd care to invest in some shares I have in the Sydney Harbour Bridge, ( cheap) |
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