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My HD 7990 (dual gpu) only mines with the other core and completely discards the another. Can you please help me find the solution. Now iīm hashing GPU 0= 0.000H/S and GPU 1= 270-290H/S.
Iīm using windows 10 with 15.12 drivers. I do not have this problem with other 7990s from my other systems. I have also uninstalled the drivers with DDU and reinstalled them twice. If you can help me with this you would do a great deal to release me from my despair. Any bit of advice helps since i canīt figure anything out at this moment.
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Why i have the same hashrate for ethereum in single mining mode and dual mining mode  Please help me (i have 7990 and two 7950 and the overall hashrate is about 50mh/s in mode 1 and in mode 0) Are You complaining or what? If You really want to slow down with ETH speed try mining LBRY as second coin. Or increase -dcri to insane high values like 80 or 90. No i just figured i had done something wrong since when you donīt mine a second coin, the hashrate should go up instead of staying the same? Iīll try -dcri. thanks for the tip Not really. Claymore's miners are coded to mine a second coin that doesn't slow down the first coin. Each algo put certain demands on your vid card while leaving some of the cards resources unused. Claymore figured out how to implement dual mining so that the second coin is using the unused resources.......so your ETH speed isn't adversely affected. Wow. claymore is the man. why he doesnīt do the same on zcash miner  ? Thanks for the clarification dude. Gotta love this community. |
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Why i have the same hashrate for ethereum in single mining mode and dual mining mode Please help me (i have 7990 and two 7950 and the overall hashrate is about 50mh/s in mode 1 and in mode 0) Are You complaining or what? If You really want to slow down with ETH speed try mining LBRY as second coin. Or increase -dcri to insane high values like 80 or 90. No i just figured i had done something wrong since when you donīt mine a second coin, the hashrate should go up instead of staying the same? Iīll try -dcri. thanks for the tip |
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Why i have the same hashrate for ethereum in single mining mode and dual mining mode Please help me (i have 7990 and two 7950 and the overall hashrate is about 50mh/s in mode 1 and in mode 0) |
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If someone cares to cut it into another thread, i could continue, but enough of offtopic here.
Letīs agree on that. |
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Yeah right, and who would those pools sell it to? At prices higher than of a free market. Say, they put the price at 1btc. What then?
U people miss the experience of living in soviet union. These kind of plans dont work.
Market manipulation or cartels have nothing to do with predetermined production in Soviet union mate. More likely this can be mocked as an attempt to make a "central bank" for zcash. To be honest, mildly controlling the price of a currency is what central banks do. If you meant "you people" by Finnish people, we are nowadays basically anti communism as a whole. If you actually read my last post, you would see that what i meant was to manipulate the zcash price so the coin dumping wouldnīt have such a detrimental effect on the prices. Therefore the prices could be better adjusted to the current demand (through centralized selling=pool collaboration). As i originally posted, there is a risk that if the price is too high, people wont buy it and if it was the 100 dollars each i originally hypothesized, we would still need to make the majority of the network to collaborate with this plan. To control the risks i threw out ideas of pool collaboration and an idea to adjust the price to the point people would actually buy it (read "leftover demand", which of whom may or may not buy zcash even if they canīt get it for 50 dollars each). This is also 100% theoretical speculation as you may have noticed. Though iīm not sure if you are trolling with that "socialist - card" To control the price u need one of two, absence of free market so only controlled partys that agree on some price can trade. Or control over supply so decreasing it the price will rise by itself. One way or another, u will decrease volume but problem is, zec supply is constant. What u gonna do about that? "socialist card" is about planned economics, u plan supply and u plan price and u never hit the target of demand. U either have overproduction or deficit. And with "controlled" price of ZEC u have over production that u cant sell unless the price will go down. . It only can be manipulated to the point people still are willing to buy it. Who is allowed to trade or who is not allowed cannot be controlled by any measure these days. Can you share a quote where i stated that? I made a scenario where the price of the currency could be manipulated on the free market. You seriously havenīt heard of what European Unions central bank has been doing for this entire decade? They manipulate the price of the Euro as some may have noticed. As i also stated we would need majority of the network (hashrate) so more than half of the constant supply is still under our control. Planned economics in soviet union meant that the price of the ruble was not only manipulated but it was fully controlled buy the state no matter the supply or demand. In Europe the price of the Euro is manipulated through a central bank but even them cannot fully decide what itīs price should be . Most of the Europeans still call it a free market. This scenario was an image of the latter. Ok, u get most of hashers onboard and u start manipulating price... at the same time u promise to pay all miners that higher price. Unless u have some big buffer of btc (that will dry out), how on earth will u do both things at the same time? So we get to the first question, who will u sell it to? Miners get a higher price when the biggest pools sell the mined zcash centralized in the normal marketplaces where they try to manipulate to current price. There are some same ideas like in the nicehash -system, where you get a share from your hashing power proportionately but you are not necessarily compensated with the coins you were currently mining. The pool will sell the "randomcoins" for you and compensate you with bitcoins. No news here. Though in this scenario we only mine zcash and you are compensated through fiat currencies, for example. That would somewhat reduce the effect of what coin dumping currently has on zcashīs price and maybe give a better share for miners. So u need to spend assets to drive price higher. Yea, that works but who will pay for that? Pool just gives that away? For that u dont need to control hashrate, u just buy as much zec as it takes to drive price to desired rate. And thats dead bagfull cause selling it will drive price back down. I'll take ur word that u are absolute noob  ? There is no buffer, no capital needed, no spend assets. The income miners get is from the pools selling the zcash on the market and only from the market. "u just buy as much zec as it takes to drive price to desired rate." Please share the quote where i even remotely mentioned that the price is controlled through BUYING it ourselves from the market. Now you are just making up things. Maybe this was just a troll after all? When you control at least half of the total production and supply (at least 50% of total hashrate) you have something to say about the price. It does matter whether most of the zcash is being sold at 50 dollars or 80 dollars. I a noob considering the complexity and depths of the economics. Though it makes you wonder, just what that makes you. Seriously bro? you run out of arguments and just make some shit up i never said? Lets agree to disagree, i guess u are misreading and taking things too personally. On with breaking F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5..... Oh i doubt that i was misreading You just ran out arguments  . I thought the exactly the same of you so no harm done here XD F5 F5 F5 F5 F5..... |
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"socialist card" is about planned economics, u plan supply and u plan price and u never hit the target of demand. U either have overproduction or deficit. And with "controlled" price of ZEC u have over production that u cant sell unless the price will go down.
Exactly. To supporters of "controlling" - one simple question - would _you_ buy the stuff for the price it has now? If "no" then why do you think someone else should want? If there are people, who value this pointless crap, then I am happy to sell it to them as long it covers my production cost. If it does not, I produce something else that is more profitable. But I will never pile the stuff to warehouse unless I value it myself and expect to see growing prices. You seriously believe market manipulation is socialist controlling? Market manipulation is an every day phenomenon in wall street and all across the globe, usually associated with capitalism. a Full government control of the economy however is associated with planned economy. "If it does not, I produce something else that is more profitable. But I will never pile the stuff to warehouse unless I value it myself and expect to see growing prices" Correct. That is why we all mine zcash. You are basically saying that the right things here: Is the demand strong enough to support those prices? If you watch some of the original posts you see that i assumed the coin dumping to make the zcash price lower than it could be + the buyer demand can be tested through price manipulation. Hence the cartel. you probably didnīt read my answer to that statement but here it is anyhow: I never stated that full control of the price can be achieved. It only can be manipulated to the point people still are willing to buy it. Who is allowed to trade or who is not allowed cannot be controlled by any measure these days. Can you share a quote where i stated that? I made a scenario where the price of the currency could be manipulated on the free market. You seriously havenīt heard of what European Unions central bank has been doing for this entire decade? They manipulate the price of the Euro as some may have noticed. As i also stated we would need majority of the network (hashrate) so more than half of the constant supply is still under our control. Planned economics in soviet union meant that the price of the ruble was not only manipulated but it was fully controlled buy the state no matter the supply or demand. In Europe the price of the Euro is manipulated through a central bank but even them cannot fully decide what itīs price should be . Most of the Europeans still call it a free market. This scenario was an image of the latter. -------------------- |
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Yeah right, and who would those pools sell it to? At prices higher than of a free market. Say, they put the price at 1btc. What then?
U people miss the experience of living in soviet union. These kind of plans dont work.
Market manipulation or cartels have nothing to do with predetermined production in Soviet union mate. More likely this can be mocked as an attempt to make a "central bank" for zcash. To be honest, mildly controlling the price of a currency is what central banks do. If you meant "you people" by Finnish people, we are nowadays basically anti communism as a whole. If you actually read my last post, you would see that what i meant was to manipulate the zcash price so the coin dumping wouldnīt have such a detrimental effect on the prices. Therefore the prices could be better adjusted to the current demand (through centralized selling=pool collaboration). As i originally posted, there is a risk that if the price is too high, people wont buy it and if it was the 100 dollars each i originally hypothesized, we would still need to make the majority of the network to collaborate with this plan. To control the risks i threw out ideas of pool collaboration and an idea to adjust the price to the point people would actually buy it (read "leftover demand", which of whom may or may not buy zcash even if they canīt get it for 50 dollars each). This is also 100% theoretical speculation as you may have noticed. Though iīm not sure if you are trolling with that "socialist - card" To control the price u need one of two, absence of free market so only controlled partys that agree on some price can trade. Or control over supply so decreasing it the price will rise by itself. One way or another, u will decrease volume but problem is, zec supply is constant. What u gonna do about that? "socialist card" is about planned economics, u plan supply and u plan price and u never hit the target of demand. U either have overproduction or deficit. And with "controlled" price of ZEC u have over production that u cant sell unless the price will go down. . It only can be manipulated to the point people still are willing to buy it. Who is allowed to trade or who is not allowed cannot be controlled by any measure these days. Can you share a quote where i stated that? I made a scenario where the price of the currency could be manipulated on the free market. You seriously havenīt heard of what European Unions central bank has been doing for this entire decade? They manipulate the price of the Euro as some may have noticed. As i also stated we would need majority of the network (hashrate) so more than half of the constant supply is still under our control. Planned economics in soviet union meant that the price of the ruble was not only manipulated but it was fully controlled buy the state no matter the supply or demand. In Europe the price of the Euro is manipulated through a central bank but even them cannot fully decide what itīs price should be . Most of the Europeans still call it a free market. This scenario was an image of the latter. Ok, u get most of hashers onboard and u start manipulating price... at the same time u promise to pay all miners that higher price. Unless u have some big buffer of btc (that will dry out), how on earth will u do both things at the same time? So we get to the first question, who will u sell it to? Miners get a higher price when the biggest pools sell the mined zcash centralized in the normal marketplaces where they try to manipulate to current price. There are some same ideas like in the nicehash -system, where you get a share from your hashing power proportionately but you are not necessarily compensated with the coins you were currently mining. The pool will sell the "randomcoins" for you and compensate you with bitcoins. No news here. Though in this scenario we only mine zcash and you are compensated through fiat currencies, for example. That would somewhat reduce the effect of what coin dumping currently has on zcashīs price and maybe give a better share for miners. So u need to spend assets to drive price higher. Yea, that works but who will pay for that? Pool just gives that away? For that u dont need to control hashrate, u just buy as much zec as it takes to drive price to desired rate. And thats dead bagfull cause selling it will drive price back down. I'll take ur word that u are absolute noob ? There is no buffer, no capital needed, no spend assets. The income miners get is from the pools selling the zcash on the market and only from the market. "u just buy as much zec as it takes to drive price to desired rate." Please share the quote where i even remotely mentioned that the price is controlled through BUYING it ourselves from the market. Now you are just making up things. Maybe this was just a troll after all? When you control at least half of the total production and supply (at least 50% of total hashrate) you have something to say about the price. It does matter whether most of the zcash is being sold at 50 dollars or 80 dollars. I a noob considering the complexity and depths of the economics. Though it makes you wonder, just what that makes you. Seriously bro? you run out of arguments and just make some shit up i never said? |
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Yeah right, and who would those pools sell it to? At prices higher than of a free market. Say, they put the price at 1btc. What then?
U people miss the experience of living in soviet union. These kind of plans dont work.
Market manipulation or cartels have nothing to do with predetermined production in Soviet union mate. More likely this can be mocked as an attempt to make a "central bank" for zcash. To be honest, mildly controlling the price of a currency is what central banks do. If you meant "you people" by Finnish people, we are nowadays basically anti communism as a whole. If you actually read my last post, you would see that what i meant was to manipulate the zcash price so the coin dumping wouldnīt have such a detrimental effect on the prices. Therefore the prices could be better adjusted to the current demand (through centralized selling=pool collaboration). As i originally posted, there is a risk that if the price is too high, people wont buy it and if it was the 100 dollars each i originally hypothesized, we would still need to make the majority of the network to collaborate with this plan. To control the risks i threw out ideas of pool collaboration and an idea to adjust the price to the point people would actually buy it (read "leftover demand", which of whom may or may not buy zcash even if they canīt get it for 50 dollars each). This is also 100% theoretical speculation as you may have noticed. Though iīm not sure if you are trolling with that "socialist - card" To control the price u need one of two, absence of free market so only controlled partys that agree on some price can trade. Or control over supply so decreasing it the price will rise by itself. One way or another, u will decrease volume but problem is, zec supply is constant. What u gonna do about that? "socialist card" is about planned economics, u plan supply and u plan price and u never hit the target of demand. U either have overproduction or deficit. And with "controlled" price of ZEC u have over production that u cant sell unless the price will go down. . It only can be manipulated to the point people still are willing to buy it. Who is allowed to trade or who is not allowed cannot be controlled by any measure these days. Can you share a quote where i stated that? I made a scenario where the price of the currency could be manipulated on the free market. You seriously havenīt heard of what European Unions central bank has been doing for this entire decade? They manipulate the price of the Euro as some may have noticed. As i also stated we would need majority of the network (hashrate) so more than half of the constant supply is still under our control. Planned economics in soviet union meant that the price of the ruble was not only manipulated but it was fully controlled buy the state no matter the supply or demand. In Europe the price of the Euro is manipulated through a central bank but even them cannot fully decide what itīs price should be . Most of the Europeans still call it a free market. This scenario was an image of the latter. Ok, u get most of hashers onboard and u start manipulating price... at the same time u promise to pay all miners that higher price. Unless u have some big buffer of btc (that will dry out), how on earth will u do both things at the same time? So we get to the first question, who will u sell it to? Miners get a higher price when the biggest pools sell the mined zcash centralized in the normal marketplaces where they try to manipulate to current price. There are some same ideas like in the nicehash -system, where you get a share from your hashing power proportionately but you are not necessarily compensated with the coins you were currently mining. The pool will sell the "randomcoins" for you and compensate you with bitcoins. No news here. Though in this scenario we only mine zcash and you are compensated through fiat currencies, for example. That would somewhat reduce the effect of what coin dumping currently has on zcashīs price and maybe give a better share for miners. |
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Yeah right, and who would those pools sell it to? At prices higher than of a free market. Say, they put the price at 1btc. What then?
U people miss the experience of living in soviet union. These kind of plans dont work.
Market manipulation or cartels have nothing to do with predetermined production in Soviet union mate. More likely this can be mocked as an attempt to make a "central bank" for zcash. To be honest, mildly controlling the price of a currency is what central banks do. If you meant "you people" by Finnish people, we are nowadays basically anti communism as a whole. If you actually read my last post, you would see that what i meant was to manipulate the zcash price so the coin dumping wouldnīt have such a detrimental effect on the prices. Therefore the prices could be better adjusted to the current demand (through centralized selling=pool collaboration). As i originally posted, there is a risk that if the price is too high, people wont buy it and if it was the 100 dollars each i originally hypothesized, we would still need to make the majority of the network to collaborate with this plan. To control the risks i threw out ideas of pool collaboration and an idea to adjust the price to the point people would actually buy it (read "leftover demand", which of whom may or may not buy zcash even if they canīt get it for 50 dollars each). This is also 100% theoretical speculation as you may have noticed. Though iīm not sure if you are trolling with that "socialist - card" To control the price u need one of two, absence of free market so only controlled partys that agree on some price can trade. Or control over supply so decreasing it the price will rise by itself. One way or another, u will decrease volume but problem is, zec supply is constant. What u gonna do about that? "socialist card" is about planned economics, u plan supply and u plan price and u never hit the target of demand. U either have overproduction or deficit. And with "controlled" price of ZEC u have over production that u cant sell unless the price will go down. . It only can be manipulated to the point people still are willing to buy it. Who is allowed to trade or who is not allowed cannot be controlled by any measure these days. Can you share a quote where i stated that? I made a scenario where the price of the currency could be manipulated on the free market. You seriously havenīt heard of what European Unions central bank has been doing for this entire decade? They manipulate the price of the Euro as some may have noticed. As i also stated we would need majority of the network (hashrate) so more than half of the constant supply is still under our control. Planned economics in soviet union meant that the price of the ruble was not only manipulated but it was fully controlled buy the state no matter the supply or demand. In Europe the price of the Euro is manipulated through a central bank but even them cannot fully decide what itīs price should be . Most of the Europeans still call it a free market. This scenario was an image of the latter. |
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not that it's terribly important, but lots of people use claymore's miner. two indications: watching closely the hashrate on flypool(about 40% of total zec hashrate) when the new miner is released it would look like everyone is using it...  also if you calculate the amount claymore made on his devfee zec account (the one posted here earlier) - it's 2.5% of the 10% of the total zec in circulation .. also it could be not the only one... yes lots use it but do you want to be the one to suggest the proposal to and coordinate it all with the miners. Dont forget Claymore will have got more users when version 8 was bundled with the nicehash miner. As was stated earlier all you would be doing if you mananged to make the deal with all the miners is create a artificial price point. In the end it is artificial indeed, though sustained through guessing how much people are willing to pay from zcash when the supply is manipulated. Zcash being VAT free (at least if traded to bitcoin) and itīs supposed anonymity may be the natural growing factors that make the price go boom by itself in the future. Though it doesnīt mean that we should allow coin dumping to reduce the price too much right now and centralized selling would reduce itīs effect in the meanwhile + the suppliers of zcash get a better share for their efforts? Iīm just speculating though. One would first need to contact the pools and make the deal happen somehow. Not going to do that by myself thatīs for sure . How about you @claymore? Maybe you could try? |
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Yeah right, and who would those pools sell it to? At prices higher than of a free market. Say, they put the price at 1btc. What then?
U people miss the experience of living in soviet union. These kind of plans dont work.
Market manipulation or cartels have nothing to do with predetermined production in Soviet union mate. More likely this can be mocked as an attempt to make a "central bank" for zcash. To be honest, mildly controlling the price of a currency is what central banks do. If you meant "you people" by Finnish people, we are nowadays basically anti communism as a whole. If you actually read my last post, you would see that what i meant was to manipulate the zcash price so the coin dumping wouldnīt have such a detrimental effect on the prices. Therefore the prices could be better adjusted to the current demand (through centralized selling=pool collaboration). As i originally posted, there is a risk that if the price is too high, people wont buy it and if it was the 100 dollars each i originally hypothesized, we would still need to make the majority of the network to collaborate with this plan. To control the risks i threw out ideas of pool collaboration and an idea to adjust the price to the point people would actually buy it (read "leftover demand", which of whom may or may not buy zcash even if they canīt get it for 50 dollars each). This is also 100% theoretical speculation as you may have noticed. Though iīm not sure if you are trolling with that "socialist - card" |
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I get back to ETH now..  hope V9 makes me get back to Zcash.. Why dont mine and hold, you dont have to sell at the time you mine, i mined a lot at price at 0.07 btc, and sell eveything on last pump at 0.13, so just stop crying and wait +1 Agreed - We miners are the cause of ZEC's price going down - stop selling so damned cheap!!! - list your mining rewards for what its worth. Don't just sell out. This may be a stupid question but if every miner who uses claymore or visits this thread decided to form a price cartel - letīs say no selling under 100 dollars - wouldnīt that make the overall price go up only if we were actually able to sell it on that price? There would be still a lot of people selling it under priced, making people to only buy from them, while making the average exchange price still stay low. So what iīm trying to say here is that we would need to make the under priced zcash - sellers a minority, so they alone couldnīt supply the demand. Then the extra "leftover" demand either makes prices go up or the demand diminishes if the price is considered too high? While this is artificial, a real life use of zcash such as wide darknet adoption, online buying options or even a credit card adoption would make the prices go up naturally. Most of all Bitcoin (and therefore probably many other virtual currencies) are ruled to be VAT free in European Union: that might be a good stepping stone to make zcash purchases mainstream.http[Suspicious link removed]mpt-from-vat-says-european-court-of-justice/ Iīm an absolute noob when it comes to these issues so please do not judge me. iīm just throwing some points iīm been thinking of. Feel free to correct me. Whilst a interesting thought the problem is the amount of people using others miners not to mention the private mining farms who are in it to make as much as they can as quickly as possible. The amount using Claymore's miner probably make up a small amount of ZEC miners, plus getting everyone to go along with the idea would be a major headacahe to arrange. As I stated in my earlier post there is no reason for the price to stay high right now. NO use for the coin plus the amount of people just dumping as they mine BECAUSE the price is continually going down is hitting the price hard. plus the big mines have no intention of holding it, they mine like hell a coin until it not profitable anymore for them and them move on to the next coin released, buying a private mining program so they have a major speed head start from the outset Good points here :/ Never thought of it like that. Maybe one would need an unlikely amount of percentage of the zcahsh hasrate in collaboration (maybe 50%)? Only pools can come together on those numbers. Maybe there should be nicehash -like system between the pools: The pools would sell the mined zcash on fixed (higher) prices on the market and share the profit with the miners proportionately to their hashrate. Therefore the prices should go up? the pool users would stay in the pools because their profits are much higher in this system? Pools can even horde some zcash capital and sell it when the time is "right" so the supply isnīt higher than the demand. There could be an option for the miners to ask their profit on zcash but that wouldnīt be an automatic option. What do you think? |
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I get back to ETH now.. hope V9 makes me get back to Zcash.. Why dont mine and hold, you dont have to sell at the time you mine, i mined a lot at price at 0.07 btc, and sell eveything on last pump at 0.13, so just stop crying and wait +1 Agreed - We miners are the cause of ZEC's price going down - stop selling so damned cheap!!! - list your mining rewards for what its worth. Don't just sell out. This may be a stupid question but if every miner who uses claymore or visits this thread decided to form a price cartel - letīs say no selling under 100 dollars - wouldnīt that make the overall price go up only if we were actually able to sell it on that price? There would be still a lot of people selling it under priced, making people to only buy from them, while making the average exchange price still stay low. So what iīm trying to say here is that we would need to make the under priced zcash - sellers a minority, so they alone couldnīt supply the demand. Then the extra "leftover" demand either makes prices go up or the demand diminishes if the price is considered too high? While this is artificial, a real life use of zcash such as wide darknet adoption, online buying options or even a credit card adoption would make the prices go up naturally. Most of all Bitcoin (and therefore probably many other virtual currencies) are ruled to be VAT free in European Union: that might be a good stepping stone to make zcash purchases mainstream.http[Suspicious link removed]mpt-from-vat-says-european-court-of-justice/ Iīm an absolute noob when it comes to these issues so please do not judge me. iīm just throwing some points iīve been thinking of. Feel free to correct me. |
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Hello there. Iīm facing a difficult problem: either i can buy a 7990 with 280e or two 7970 about 100-140e each. Which one is a smarter option mining-wise?
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V8 since 20 mins, no reboots so far 290 "-i 6" 296-297 h/s 280x 205-210 h/s 7950 195 h/s what clock speeds do you use? |
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I only get 101 H/S on (stock bios) hd 7970 (r9 280x equilavent?) on claymore v.8. Is that normal or should i be getting more? My ram is ddr3 16gb, my cpu i7-4790 and iīm not using risers. I get more than that on a r9 280 (non x version) RX 470 4GB - 170ish h/s (bounces around this figure on -i6) stock settings what drivers do you use? mine is 16.10.2 |
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I only get 101 H/S on (stock bios) hd 7970 (r9 280x equilavent?) on claymore v.8. Is that normal or should i be getting more? My ram is ddr3 16gb, my cpu i7-4790 and iīm not using risers. |
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