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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Mass Network on: February 23, 2017, 05:01:11 AM
I just heard about this thanks to a Chinese wechat user who added me to ask what was going on after seeing my LinkedIn profile thanks to the slanderous post, implicating me as a "professional scammer", from tokyopotato. His wanton accusation of me are as incorrect as they are inflammatory. It is obvious from his post who he really meant to target.

Now for my relationship with mass.

I stopped working for Alexander Kuzmin and Mycelium in November of 2016 and have had zero communication since then.

I was Product Manager of another Mycelium team. I later quit Mycelium because our offices were moved to Moscow...I was asked to relocate, said no thanks, and quit.  

In August or Sept of 2016, Kuzmin asked me to help edit the website for MASS since I was the only native ENG speaker at his disposal at the time. I did that and only that. At no point was equity or profit sharing EVER discussed with me. I acted under orders from my boss at the time to edit some copy for the site and blog and setup some social media accounts. that is all. He asked to put my pic and name on the website and said I should have a title since I was technically "part of the team"... Seemed like free publicity for me, why not? That was my only mistake in this issue. For that I am sorry.

I do not stand to gain anything from the MASS ICO and never did...
I am not a scammer, never have been and never will be.

I have made MANY MANY requests to have my name removed from the site... to no avail. Kuzmin has ignored my requests.

Since I found out about this issue, which I have not paid attention to since leaving, I have since deleted MASS from my LinkedIn, since you all seem to think it is a scam and I do not want to be associated with it if it is. It was never a full-time job for me and I was never even paid to work on it!

But let me be clear: I do not stand to profit IN ANY WAY FROM MASS or its ICO... Please contact Mr. Kuzmin

I have ZERO relations with Mycelium or Mr. Kuzmin or MASS since November 2016. However, their "pm,community manager, accountant" contacted me in Jan of this year. Maybe he can answer your questions.


Never heard from him again.


I am sorry for anyone who feels they have been harmed but I am not able to help you. I wish that I could. All I did was edit and write some copy for the website and various social media.

I hope this helps clear up my relationship with Kuzmin and Mass. I hope tokyopotato can remove the slanderous post about me and my current employer, thank you.






Firstly - thanks for your candid honesty. The picture is now becoming much clearer. However you cannot call anyone here a troll, they are all victims. Unfortunately for you - you were involved with the project at some stage AND your LinkedIn profiles states you managed the ICO funds. The same ICO funds which have since disappeared. So you can't blame folks from putting 2 and 2 together. Even though in this case you were not responsible for any of the subsequent issues.

Thanks again.

Dude, ok, I called him a troll because he is bringing bitcoin.com into this and they had nothing to do with MASS other than publishing a press release, as did every other crypto news site we sent to.

Next, no where does it say I "managed funds". It says I was responsible for raising, meaning I was responsible for publishing content that informed people about MASS and the ICO opportunities.. That is very different.  

I never had access to funds since I was not the escrow holder. Surely, this makes sense!?
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [irregularities] Mass Network on: February 23, 2017, 04:53:06 AM
Mike worked on MASS from July to September on linkedin, he was an honest man.

You mean was ? he is not now if he knows all the scamming activity all along,then he is part to be investigated and file a complaint he should have come here long before and told us that there's an irregularities happening in this ico,he is in part part of this scam ico.

I never knew or suspected any "scamming" until last night when Jenny Moll added my wechat to ask me about mass.. he thought i still worked there. I speak chinese and was luckily able to converse with him and he told me to check this thread because people are accusing me of stealing their money. I am sorry I can not help track down A. Kuzmin. I have not been in touch with him since leaving Mycelium in Nov of 2016. I do not know his wheareabouts or his current plans/involvement in mass but I do not he was the escrow when I was still a member of the team.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Mass Network on: February 23, 2017, 03:46:30 AM
Huh, Mr.Malley, could you please explain how this:

In August or Sept of 2016, Kuzmin asked me to help edit the website for MASS since I was the only native ENG speaker at his disposal at the time. I did that and only that. At no point was equity or profit sharing EVER discussed with me. I acted under orders from my boss at the time to edit some copy for the site and blog and setup some social media accounts. that is all.
...
All I did was edit and write some copy for the website and various social media.

could be correlated with this:



On your LinkedIn profile you presented yourself as one of the key persons responsible for raising funds, defining strategy and closing deals.
And now you tell that is not true, and you just edited the Mass presentation material being the only native speaker, and wrote a couple of blog posts?  Smiley

Where is the truth?

Since I found out about this issue, which I have not paid attention to since leaving, I have since deleted MASS from my LinkedIn, since you all seem to think it is a scam and I do not want to be associated with it if it is.

Yes, you removed the info from your LinkedIn profile, but fortunately it is preserved here on the snapshot. Based on the above, I could think you deleted the LinkedIn data to hide/cleanup something? Are all the "natural leaders" behave that way?  Roll Eyes


Look, I beefed up my resume ok? Even so nothing I wrote said "collected and holds funds". I never once had access to the funds...i worked on this project the least of any of the people mentioned..I have also done the most to help clear up what I know. I never suspected any foul play until last night when user Jenny Moll tracked my wechat account down to ask me what was up with Mass.. I  was like "what do you mean..i quit there ages ago.." He linked me to here.  And i have told you all i know. As far as i know, Mr. kuzmin, the escrow (For crying out loud), is the only one with access to the funds. I never suspected foul play until reading this thread that I have not checked once since leaving his and Mycelium's employ.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [irregularities] Mass Network on: February 22, 2017, 09:10:02 PM

OMG! More slander, man... yes, that was me, Mike. Have you ever worked at a company? Generally, The CTO and CEO run the show. This was the case as far as I know at Mass. They ask people like me to do marketing stuff which means just send some press releases to outlets. I was never involved in collecting money and neither was the "scam originator", Mr. Oschepkov. From what I know he was fired!!! Probably for asking too many questions about how it would actually work!... come on, man. Please have some decency. I understand you are upset, I would be too. Focus you efforts on tracking down the real people involved though instead of accusing the people trying to help you.

Thanks, Mike

5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [irregularities] Mass Network on: February 22, 2017, 09:02:01 PM
Hello Michael,

I am not interested in further accusations against you, nor attacking your character, nor taking you down, nor holding you responsible - as that is counterproductive to finding any resolution. Unfortunately, it did appear that you were involved with copy and content creation for Mass Network and MassCoin ICO, as well as took credit for raising the funds, and I did bring attention to this and apologize for calling you a "professional scammer" and retract this statement. That fact that you came here to address the accusations, shows that you are a person of integrity.

A handful of participants including yourself, are now being "hung out to dry" by Alexander Kuzmin, and Alexey Oschepkov -- who have now moved onto new scams.  It has come to light that much of the communications regarding people's involvement in the Mass Network were outright lies and misinformation, which can be seen from the PR that was published at Bitcoin.com

https://news.bitcoin.com/mass-network-bitcoin-advertising/

Archived Link: http://archive.is/t2S1u

In this article, the Mass Network was referred to as a "Bitcoin Super Team" ... "composed of leading innovators from businesses such as Colu, Mycelium, Evernote, BitFury Capital, Deutsche Bank and IBM."

It is unfortunate that you were brought into the fold of this scam, along with Bitcoin.com

I believe this situation is sobering for yourself, and for everyone here.  Meanwhile, those ultimately responsible are now gone with the rest of the funds. Thank you for addressing the accusations, and providing more facts, as the community works to bring accountability to Alexander Kuzmin and Alexey Oschepkov (Kontegna). I will only let the facts speak for themselves at this point, as they come to the surface.

These sorts of ICO PR shenanigans cannot continue to go on at Bitcoin.com or within the Bitcoin space without accountability, and ultimately, that's all people want here -- accountability.

copying from the original new thread and my post there  DO NOT POST SESC LINKS


Hi, Mass Investors!


Here's my experience that I feel I need to contribute to the community since this doubt has arisen.

0) Neither me personally, nor my company (www.knowledger.consulting) have any affiliation with Mass Network or any of its founders/employees. I was just a contractor to Mass writing the white & blue papers and advising on general matters. Neither me, nor my company has ever received or managed in any way any funds directly from the crowdsale discussed.

1) I was first engaged in the project in early August of 2016 when I met Alexander Pankov (nick “pianist”) in Riga, Latvia, EU, in person. I assume, I was quite an obvious guy to get invited since I combine the knowledge of blockchain tech and ad-blocking as you can see in my blog (https://medium.com/@Knowledger).

2) Alexander Pankov has made an impression of having some deep knowledge of the subject, although I was unpleasantly amazed by him humiliating his wife more than twice publicly during an hour-long meeting. I should have probably withdrawn myself from there right away which I didn't, unfortunately.

3) Alexander Pankov initiated the crowdsale of Mass Network tokens by starting the ANN thread on Bitcointalk. I spent about 40 days communicating with Mass Network representatives while ~90% of messaging happened directly with Alexander Pankov / pianist.

4) I created the white and blue papers of the projects with Michael Malley being my proof-reader and Sam Cheng Hung being the webmaster. Those were the only contacts I had within Mass, besides Alexander Pankov (a lot) and Alexander Kuzmin, occasionally, on general topics. By that time, I assumed that Alexander Pankov has hired all the dev team members by himself.

5) Along the way, Alexander Pankov began to fill my inbox with tons of messages that were self-contradictory, controversial, and not making sense at all. I expressed doubt he could manage his way, in polite terms.

6) In mid-September 2016 I was kicked off the project by Alexander Pankov with the extremely rude wording "I don't need you in the project, being impertinent to me is your life-lesson". I can prove that to any entity and will insist that in any court should that take place.

7) Later, along the project development, Alexander Kuzmin accurately calculated my participation and let me off, fulfilling all obligations to me, after his purchase of the entire thing, with no objections from my side whatsoever. I also had relations with him in the Mycelium Card project (https://card.mycelium.com) years before, where he also behave himself as a gentleman. I have no grounds to suspect him in any wrongdoings. He was indeed an escrow of the funds, according to his own words. I have zero knowledge on how funds received during the crowdsale were used, though.

I have to mention that Alexander Kuzmin has received a number of suggestions from me that he has ignored. Specifically I have advised him to withdraw from specific partnerships that he has announced on the Mass Network website. Him not doing so does not lead me to the assumption he meant any harm to Mass Network investors, rather I suppose I have limited knowledge of the matter.

Cool Alexander Pankov has "left the project" in December 2016, according to his own words. That happened RIGHT AFTER all the crowdfunding money were collected. We only have his word for that event, as a matter of fact.

9) In February 2017, Alexander Pankov (nicknamed "pianist") names me as a project "founder" while he well knows I am not and was not. That’s a blatant lie. It seems he is trying to blame me.

10) I have no grounds to suspect the project has let its investors down and stopped development. I don’t know why they have let this escalate or generate such a suspicious feeling in the community, I just felt I need to honestly express my view and what I know for sure.
______





Regards,

Alex
Knowledger.consulting


Just as I expected.  Everyone here was involved, but nobody can take responsibility.  And it seems that Alexander Kuzmin is the one who has "disappeared without a trace". 

Thanks for speaking out your version of the facts. 

This is a horrible shit-stain on Mycelium.

tokyopotato,
Thanks for retracting your statement about me as a scammer. Now, I must comment on 1) Mr. Alexey Oschepkov and his involvement as well as 2) bitcoin.com's involvement (which was nothing other than to publish a press release).  

1) I have never met Oschepkov in person but we worked together on various publications, including the whitepaper. He, as main author, and myself as copy-editor (he wrote it and i edited for grammar, clarity as I am a native ENG speaker and understand that basic concepts involved).

Alexey's account of the events above is in accord with what I know of the situation. I do not see any reason why he would be involved in a "scam" if this is indeed what is transpiring. He was definitely let go and I was told it was because he and the Alexander's "didnt have the same vision for the project".

And if he was a scammer, why the hell would he be in here defending himself? Wouldn't he be avoiding this entirely like some of the others implicated? I see no reason to go after the only people who are in here trying to help you all.

Please consider the facts as well as the transparency with which he and I have communicated with this thread. I do not know about him but I am taking time out of my work schedule to address any questions and help in any way I can. It pains me to see (from what I know) a decent person like Mr. Oschepkov, implicated without much evidence other than having written the white paper. He's a smart guy and about as hardcore of a bitcoin/blockchainer as I have ever met. Ask yourself why a "scammer" with his name on Mass documents would then put his name on Knowledger as if no one would notice. It doesn't make any sense.

2) bitcoin.com posted the press release of Mass... Guess what? So did coindesk and others.. are they to be dragged through the mud too here?

It seems very clear that Mr. Kuzmin and any others currently involved in Mass are the people who need to be contacted.
6  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [SCAM] MASS.NETWORK on: February 22, 2017, 04:34:10 PM
copying from the original ANN thread and my post there https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1598276.msg17935505#msg17935505. I do not wish to be implicated or have my reputation tarnished. I do not know if that ANN thread will be deleted/closed.


I just heard about this thanks to a Chinese wechat user who added me to ask what was going on after seeing my LinkedIn profile thanks to the slanderous post, implicating me as a "professional scammer", from tokyopotato. His wanton accusation of me are as incorrect as they are inflammatory. It is obvious from his post who he really meant to target.

Now for my relationship with mass.

I stopped working for Alexander Kuzmin and Mycelium in November of 2016 and have had zero communication since then.

I was Product Manager of another Mycelium team. I later quit Mycelium because our offices were moved to Moscow...I was asked to relocate, said no thanks, and quit.  

In August or Sept of 2016, Kuzmin asked me to help edit the website for MASS since I was the only native ENG speaker at his disposal at the time. I did that and only that. At no point was equity or profit sharing EVER discussed with me. I acted under orders from my boss at the time to edit some copy for the site and blog and setup some social media accounts. that is all. He asked to put my pic and name on the website and said I should have a title since I was technically "part of the team"... Seemed like free publicity for me, why not? That was my only mistake in this issue. For that I am sorry.

I do not stand to gain anything from the MASS ICO and never did...
I am not a scammer, never have been and never will be.

I have made MANY MANY requests to have my name removed from the site... to no avail. Kuzmin has ignored my requests.

Since I found out about this issue, which I have not paid attention to since leaving, I have since deleted MASS from my LinkedIn, since you all seem to think it is a scam and I do not want to be associated with it if it is. It was never a full-time job for me and I was never even paid to work on it!

But let me be clear: I do not stand to profit IN ANY WAY FROM MASS or its ICO... Please contact Mr. Kuzmin

I have ZERO relations with Mycelium or Mr. Kuzmin or MASS since November 2016. However, their "pm,community manager, accountant" contacted me in Jan of this year. Maybe he can answer your questions.


Never heard from him again.


I am sorry for anyone who feels they have been harmed but I am not able to help you. I wish that I could. All I did was edit and write some copy for the website and various social media.

I hope this helps clear up my relationship with Kuzmin and Mass. I hope tokyopotato can remove the slanderous post about me and my current employer, thank you.





7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Mass Network on: February 22, 2017, 08:40:38 AM


He would seem the best person to ask where the ico funds went. Note 90+% of the dev work was done before the ico finished. So they can't say it's been used up.

Answered above. I am sorry this went down, sir. I never had anything to do with accepting or spending the funds.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Mass Network on: February 22, 2017, 08:31:59 AM
我同Mally通了话,他说他只是一个英语文档,并没有参与项目本身,筹多少比特币都不知道,只是因为没领到工资才离开MASS.

Thank you, sir! This is the person who added me on WeChat and told me that my name was being implicated in a "scam". 多谢🙏哥们。 中国同志们我很抱歉, 我是编辑网站的英文版本而已。 我不会从这个项目中收任何的获利!! 16年11月之后没有和kuzmin或者mass团队联系过
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Mass Network on: February 22, 2017, 08:20:25 AM
I just heard about this thanks to a Chinese wechat user who added me to ask what was going on after seeing my LinkedIn profile thanks to the slanderous post, implicating me as a "professional scammer", from tokyopotato. His wanton accusation of me are as incorrect as they are inflammatory. It is obvious from his post who he really meant to target.

Now for my relationship with mass.

I stopped working for Alexander Kuzmin and Mycelium in November of 2016 and have had zero communication since then.

I was Product Manager of another Mycelium team. I later quit Mycelium because our offices were moved to Moscow...I was asked to relocate, said no thanks, and quit.  

In August or Sept of 2016, Kuzmin asked me to help edit the website for MASS since I was the only native ENG speaker at his disposal at the time. I did that and only that. At no point was equity or profit sharing EVER discussed with me. I acted under orders from my boss at the time to edit some copy for the site and blog and setup some social media accounts. that is all. He asked to put my pic and name on the website and said I should have a title since I was technically "part of the team"... Seemed like free publicity for me, why not? That was my only mistake in this issue. For that I am sorry.

I do not stand to gain anything from the MASS ICO and never did...
I am not a scammer, never have been and never will be.

I have made MANY MANY requests to have my name removed from the site... to no avail. Kuzmin has ignored my requests.

Since I found out about this issue, which I have not paid attention to since leaving, I have since deleted MASS from my LinkedIn, since you all seem to think it is a scam and I do not want to be associated with it if it is.

But let me be clear: I do not stand to profit IN ANY WAY FROM MASS or its ICO... Please contact Mr. Kuzmin

I have ZERO relations with Mycelium or Mr. Kuzmin or MASS since November 2016. However, their "pm,community manager, accountant" contacted me in Jan of this year. Maybe he can answer your questions.


Never heard from him again.


I am sorry for anyone who feels they have been harmed but I am not able to help you. I wish that I could. All I did was edit and write some copy for the website and various social media.

I hope this helps clear up my relationship with Kuzmin and Mass. I hope tokyopotato can remove the slanderous post about me and my current employer, thank you.

edited: for clarification and brevity




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