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And if you sit back and think about all the hints, you would realize what will be clear in the end of 2018, that HVN will fail. It will go like that: they postpone the release of the platform a few months, then create hype with fake news until the team is able to sell their coins, after that huge dump the project will die. I ve seen a few of them like that. Mark my words!
And you made this account on bitcointalk forum just to tell us your opinion? Luckily the end of 2018 is near and with transparent ledger as Ethereum have it will be easily to see it. Sad part wil be that at end of 2018 you will not log to this account anymore. Mark my words on that. So prove you wrong will have no satisfaction. it seems I'm Nostradamus.  Did anything happen since? No? Price 40 sats?  lolol Glad I went out after the team lied about the exchange listing. They are just too unprofessional, not dynamic enough. Probably the mentality of ex-communist country... |
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You asked me to point out one TOP20 exchange that lists coins left and right. I showed you 4. I could also go on and list much more. Your argument that its not easy to get listed doesn't hold. Lots of smaller coins achieve what Hive Project cannot achieve, getting listed on a serious TOP20 exchange. Your asessment of the situation is just wrong. Well so here we are. As said by me last week, today its clear, there is no exchange listing happening. Furthermore Hive Project refuses to out the "rogue exchange, who extorted money from Hive although the deal was fixed". If its true what Hive Project is telling us that they became a victim of the exchange who doesnt honor handshaken deals, why not tell the whole crypto world about the unprofessionalism and bad business practice of the evil exchange, so no one is doing business with them anymore. They dont want to name the "rogue exchange" because then we could verify their claims. Instead they tell us that would be unprofessional while wearing Jeans and T-Shirts trying to get deals in with the corporate/finance world.  A petty excuse! I call bullshit! I smell a scam. The writing is on the wall. Mark my words! Hey man you got your opinion and I got mine. I have seen it a few times actually where an exchange extorts a smaller token for their ICO money to get listing. Here is an example for you to read through: https://medium.com/verifyas/our-kucoin-listing-nightmare-and-why-its-the-last-place-you-should-list-3af019e4e7f6Think about it from the business side, why would you expose the shady exchange and then have exchanges not want to deal with you after that? Also, why would you pay the extra money they want when you're on the cusp of releasing your platform, doesn't sound like a good allocation of funds. I get what you're saying 100% and I see your POV and why you've decided to sell the coin. I'm just trying to show you my POV now and why I've decided to hold it. I could care less about how you invest your money and I know the same applies to you, I trust the team and you don't. That is investing after all isn't it, hedge your bets and sit back and see if you were right  If you say "I believe Hive Propject will be a success", thats an opinion. If you say HVN didnt get listed because exchanges now rarely list coins, is a false statement. Regarding your link: if you would have read the post made by Verify, you would have realized that Kucoin did not extort more money from them, but postponed the listing date and were too difficult to communicate with. Dont get me wrong, thats VERY bad busines practice by Kucoin, but they did not extort money from them like Hive Project claimed to be.... Furthermore Verify did publish their bad experience with Kucoin, obviously they are not afraid that other exchanges won't deal with them anymore. So obviously other crypto projects have a very different stance than Hive Project does. I see your POV and agree, but please just state your opinion "Hive will be sucessfull", but don't use false statements and twisted logic to convince yourself and ESPECIALLY others. With that attitude I have a problem with! And if you sit back and think about all the hints, you would realize what will be clear in the end of 2018, that HVN will fail. It will go like that: they postpone the release of the platform a few months, then create hype with fake news until the team is able to sell their coins, after that huge dump the project will die. I ve seen a few of them like that. Mark my words! |
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I was also banned simply for asking why messages about the business plan were getting deleted. (My message was deleted within 5 seconds of posting it and I was banned right after) I have a large amount invested in HVN and I am disappointed that they ban users and censor messages concerning legitimate questions. It makes them look very untrustworthy and now I can't even be a part of the community on telegram.
They are banning members left and right if anyone is not overly positive. I am/was a big hive supporter, but they don't allow any serious discussion in their channel. If you ask any critical question, well mannered and on a factual level, the same few fanatics, who post everyday, insult you and then you get banned. I guess something went really wrong behind the curtains. Why should an exchange, who lists shitcoins every day, not list them although they have been paid for the listing according to hive Project? Given the excessive censoring its obvious they have something to hide....... Couldn't be further from the truth. The same group of people that belong to a pump and dump group join and then talk the project down and anytime someone tries to correct any false info they are spreading they call it a cult. A handful of members have joined and done that and they can all be traced back to the same group. If you aren't providing any useful or productive conversation then why even join? I've asked tons and tons of tough questions and I've always gotten a response from the team. The team has gone so far as to even clarify how funds returning from the platform will be used. Which other group has a team that provides that level of transparency and real time updates? They also accused me of beeing a PPT shill, although I clearly stated multiple times that I think PPT is an even worse project and that I strongly advise against investing in PPT. Nonetheless I'm a PPT shill according to them. I mean where is the logic? Everybody who is posing critical question is accused of being a member of a ominous pump and dump group. Thats ridiculous on so many levels. What does this pump and dump group even intend? Pumping HVN and then dumping it or badmouthing HVN in a 3.4k members telegram group hoping another coin gets pumped? Do you really believe this would work? Lol come on! If I would have a sound business concept I'd wish that the "competition shills" come and ask so I could crush them with arguments. (As long as they behave well, alot of members who discussed well-mannered got banned!) If the use case and concept is strong why fear critical questions? Stay on topic instead of getting personal ("you are competition, you are an idiot, you are a clown, you dont have many posts here...") and let the bulletproof concept speak for itself! In terms of exchange, point out any top 20 exchange that lists shit coins left and right? Bittrex is on a massive delisting spree, the opposite is actually true. Binance rarely lists coins now too, maybe on or two every couple weeks. Its tough to be listed now and the token has been approved they're just waiting for their turn. Bittrex didn't list a new ERC20 token for AGES because of their Ethereum wallet issue, I'm sure they have a huge line up...
DYOR... provide constructive conversation... both these accounts have 1 and 3 posts respectively on bitcointalk... clearly no actual intent going on here Okay I'll make it easy for you and do your research #DYOR This are the coins BINANCE #1 Exchange by volume listed in the last month: -QLC -WAN -XEM -QTUM/BNB and QTUM/USDT Trading Pairs -STORM -ONT -ZIL -POA -NCASH -RPX This are the coins OKEX #2 Exchange by volume listed in the last month: -ONT -DADI -WFEE -REN -TRIO -RFR -GSC -AUTO -GTC -TRA -BKX -ABT -MITH -BEC -INSUR This are the coins UPBIT #4 Exchange in volume listed in the last month: EMC2, VTC, ARDR, STORM, ICX, EOS, SRN, WAX, ZRX, BCPT, VEE, TRX, TUSD, LRC, XMR, PIVX, DASH, ZEC Okay, lets get a little bit further down the list. This are the coins BIT-Z #12 exchange in volume listed in the last month: PC, VCT, UC, GBC, BCV, CRE, BTV, WOC, PXC, ECOM, PIX, SGCC You asked me to point 1 exchange, which lists shit coins left and right. Are 4 exchanges enough or do you need more? #DYOR You cant make up your own reality just because HVN doesnt get listed and the random fact that Bittrex delists many coins. That doesn't mean no coins get listed on other TOP20 exchanges, just to find an explaination for the (soon to be) broken promise of listing HVN. As said the excessive censoring and unsucessfull attempts to list HVN on a reliable exchange points to problems behind the curtains. It seems they have money problems, else they would just pay for their listings (and dont need to ask members to lobby/vote for their listing). We will know it for sure in a few days. Lets see! Okay so your list shows 4 exchanges of the top 20 that has listed any tokens... thats not very good coverage not is it?. I also understand 100% that people asking serious questions should be taken seriously and they always are. we've had people who are well versed in the invoice factoring industry come in and ask detailed questions about ramping up, liquidity providers, insurance etc. We then also get the group that just flames and asks "when exchange?". You see these are two very different groups of people and their intent is clear, you can guess which one isn't interested in the project. I'm pretty active there and I've never seen someone just asking questions been banned. I've asked tough questions myself and have gotten responses and even personal messages from the team explaining answers. In terms of the pump and dump group, three members that were bad mouthing HVN were traced back to the same group we even found their discord group with the exact same usernames LOL Either way, I dunno why you got banned I can only speak from my experience. You asked me to point out one TOP20 exchange that lists coins left and right. I showed you 4. I could also go on and list much more. Your argument that its not easy to get listed doesn't hold. Lots of smaller coins achieve what Hive Project cannot achieve, getting listed on a serious TOP20 exchange. Your asessment of the situation is just wrong. Well so here we are. As said by me last week, today its clear, there is no exchange listing happening. Furthermore Hive Project refuses to out the "rogue exchange, who extorted money from Hive although the deal was fixed". If its true what Hive Project is telling us that they became a victim of the exchange who doesnt honor handshaken deals, why not tell the whole crypto world about the unprofessionalism and bad business practice of the evil exchange, so no one is doing business with them anymore. They dont want to name the "rogue exchange" because then we could verify their claims. Instead they tell us that would be unprofessional while wearing Jeans and T-Shirts trying to get deals in with the corporate/finance world. A petty excuse! I call bullshit! I smell a scam. The writing is on the wall. Mark my words! |
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I was also banned simply for asking why messages about the business plan were getting deleted. (My message was deleted within 5 seconds of posting it and I was banned right after) I have a large amount invested in HVN and I am disappointed that they ban users and censor messages concerning legitimate questions. It makes them look very untrustworthy and now I can't even be a part of the community on telegram.
They are banning members left and right if anyone is not overly positive. I am/was a big hive supporter, but they don't allow any serious discussion in their channel. If you ask any critical question, well mannered and on a factual level, the same few fanatics, who post everyday, insult you and then you get banned. I guess something went really wrong behind the curtains. Why should an exchange, who lists shitcoins every day, not list them although they have been paid for the listing according to hive Project? Given the excessive censoring its obvious they have something to hide....... Couldn't be further from the truth. The same group of people that belong to a pump and dump group join and then talk the project down and anytime someone tries to correct any false info they are spreading they call it a cult. A handful of members have joined and done that and they can all be traced back to the same group. If you aren't providing any useful or productive conversation then why even join? I've asked tons and tons of tough questions and I've always gotten a response from the team. The team has gone so far as to even clarify how funds returning from the platform will be used. Which other group has a team that provides that level of transparency and real time updates? They also accused me of beeing a PPT shill, although I clearly stated multiple times that I think PPT is an even worse project and that I strongly advise against investing in PPT. Nonetheless I'm a PPT shill according to them. I mean where is the logic? Everybody who is posing critical question is accused of being a member of a ominous pump and dump group. Thats ridiculous on so many levels. What does this pump and dump group even intend? Pumping HVN and then dumping it or badmouthing HVN in a 3.4k members telegram group hoping another coin gets pumped? Do you really believe this would work? Lol come on! If I would have a sound business concept I'd wish that the "competition shills" come and ask so I could crush them with arguments. (As long as they behave well, alot of members who discussed well-mannered got banned!) If the use case and concept is strong why fear critical questions? Stay on topic instead of getting personal ("you are competition, you are an idiot, you are a clown, you dont have many posts here...") and let the bulletproof concept speak for itself! In terms of exchange, point out any top 20 exchange that lists shit coins left and right? Bittrex is on a massive delisting spree, the opposite is actually true. Binance rarely lists coins now too, maybe on or two every couple weeks. Its tough to be listed now and the token has been approved they're just waiting for their turn. Bittrex didn't list a new ERC20 token for AGES because of their Ethereum wallet issue, I'm sure they have a huge line up...
DYOR... provide constructive conversation... both these accounts have 1 and 3 posts respectively on bitcointalk... clearly no actual intent going on here Okay I'll make it easy for you and do your research #DYOR This are the coins BINANCE #1 Exchange by volume listed in the last month: -QLC -WAN -XEM -QTUM/BNB and QTUM/USDT Trading Pairs -STORM -ONT -ZIL -POA -NCASH -RPX This are the coins OKEX #2 Exchange by volume listed in the last month: -ONT -DADI -WFEE -REN -TRIO -RFR -GSC -AUTO -GTC -TRA -BKX -ABT -MITH -BEC -INSUR This are the coins UPBIT #4 Exchange in volume listed in the last month: EMC2, VTC, ARDR, STORM, ICX, EOS, SRN, WAX, ZRX, BCPT, VEE, TRX, TUSD, LRC, XMR, PIVX, DASH, ZEC Okay, lets get a little bit further down the list. This are the coins BIT-Z #12 exchange in volume listed in the last month: PC, VCT, UC, GBC, BCV, CRE, BTV, WOC, PXC, ECOM, PIX, SGCC You asked me to point 1 exchange, which lists shit coins left and right. Are 4 exchanges enough or do you need more? #DYOR You cant make up your own reality just because HVN doesnt get listed and the random fact that Bittrex delists many coins. That doesn't mean no coins get listed on other TOP20 exchanges, just to find an explaination for the (soon to be) broken promise of listing HVN. As said the excessive censoring and unsucessfull attempts to list HVN on a reliable exchange points to problems behind the curtains. It seems they have money problems, else they would just pay for their listings (and dont need to ask members to lobby/vote for their listing). We will know it for sure in a few days. Lets see! |
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woooohooo nice start of the week. Hope it turns around.....soon!
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Wtc wird nächste Woche Mega hot, auch Trinity könnte sich verdoppeln. Die news um verge halte ich auch für sehr verwirrend, glaube zwar es ist SCAM aber falls nicht möchte ich dabei sein, daher habe ich mir mal 30k verge mit stop loss Order zugelegt. Falls es sich als SCAM rausstellt, rate ich jedem seinen verge Bestand los zu werden.
Wenn Btc mitspielt könnte es nächste Woche für einige Altcoins (Eos, iota, stratis und o.g.) richtig interessant werden.
Was liegt bei wtc und xvg denn an? Habe überhaupt nichts bekommen wäre cool wenn du deine infos hier mit mir teilen könntest Wenn ich diesen post nicht mit dem Smartphone machen würde hätte ich einpaar Screenshots und links parat. Somit Kurzfassung: Wtc = AirDrop und mainnet Release vom 26 bis 31.03, verge wird laut eigener Angabe die größte partnership im krytomarkt ever in den nächsten Tagen rausgeben. Google einfach mal. Denke aber verge verspricht mehr als sie halte können. weiss man schon in welche Richtung diese größte Partnerschaft gehen soll. Finde keine Details dazu? thx |
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I was also banned simply for asking why messages about the business plan were getting deleted. (My message was deleted within 5 seconds of posting it and I was banned right after) I have a large amount invested in HVN and I am disappointed that they ban users and censor messages concerning legitimate questions. It makes them look very untrustworthy and now I can't even be a part of the community on telegram.
They are banning members left and right if anyone is not overly positive. I am/was a big hive supporter, but they don't allow any serious discussion in their channel. If you ask any critical question, well mannered and on a factual level, the same few fanatics, who post everyday, insult you and then you get banned. I guess something went really wrong behind the curtains. Why should an exchange, who lists shitcoins every day, not list them although they have been paid for the listing according to hive Project? Given the excessive censoring its obvious they have something to hide....... |
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