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Nobody born as a "good developer", "good singer", "good mathematician", "good engineer" or "good anything else". The market is not perfect, nobody is, it's commendable, that one guy, not a huge company with millions of dollars, created a market, which became so popular and helped people to trade with almost no fees. He's learning, people improve only by facing and solving problems, sitting on a couch wont lead you far.
Instead of coming here and writing this not very valuable comment, you could reviewed your ideas on a paper and send them to Simon with an offer to help improve the exchange.
1.) how do you know what i write on paper and help to improve who? 2.) yeah nobody is born as a programmer,you're right. (but maybe a few) but i can learn and improve by writing a shell-script which displays me the current exchange-rate of what ever and not learning "real-life"-database-programming with the hard earned money of thousands of people. in this case i would seek for big help. you take that a little bit to easy i think. (maybe you didn't lose anything?) 3.) for me, YOUR comment was not valuable at all, because you just do what a lot of people do in forums: "tell other people to not complain and instead they should do something about it like being productive" well, thats an old shoe, a really old shoe. 4.) im not complaining, i try to express some ideas to see what people think about it thats all, i don't need you explaining me the old shoe... you taught me nothing new here 5.)"almost no fees" im not so sure about that anymore. 6.)i didnt attack this person in no way, so why you come up with this, you probably feel very smart criticize other peoples thoughts. greets Could you please first read consistently what I wrote, and then reply ? 1. I was talking about these ideas circumstantial presentation to Simon directly... i mean the site seems to me quite big. why didnt he get some people to help him? like they do with open source projects... why didnt he made a dedicated site like www.helpme.bitcoin-24.de like some kind of blog where he could ask everything you would ask on a programming-forum but with the feature that hes the only one who can post questions. there are a lot of programmers in the bitcoin-community who would have been happy to help him, im sure. You've got a point here, but where is that mark, when you can call yourself an amateur or pro. When you know how to code one programming language or five ? I mean, come on, he couldn't be stupid or incompetence and create one of the biggest markets. Look at mtgox with a lot of earnings and still failing even more then btc24. No one is immune of failing. 3-4.You can categorize or call it how you like. But still I see no arguments, that trying to look at situation calmly is worse than complaining. 5-6. ?_? Anyway no need to answer, I have no interest in discussion off-topic. People come here to follow the progress of the market, as I do too. ok youre right lets stop that, doesnt make a sense to fight here and i see some pints in your arguments too... il hand you over my pipe of peace. btw, there is allready a thread about helping simon where ever we could. (even i think we cant afterwards..., i guess that should have been made before): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=175123.20lets hope he is good and didnt ran into something too heavy for him. but from what i read, he is not alone. i thought he did the whole project by himself... bye |
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im a little upset from this guy. i mean he knew at the very first moment, the first customer, the first deposit, the first entry in his database, that he got other peoples mony in his responsibility. And everyone who put their money into BTC should've known from the first day that their money could evaporate in an instant and that they were taking a huge gamble. That's why smart investors all over the place keep telling everyone over and over: don't invest more money than you're comfortable losing. yeah youre right but i knew that at the very first time. but still im upset because i lost money (may i please, thanks). and i still think its not really serious what he did. that has nothing about to do with not knowing what gamble means. i think its not serious to go all there alone, with that much money. why are you people always comment other peoples posting and think you can teach them. and by the way, i think even the smartest investor has feelings and gets upset if he looses alot of money. |
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Nobody born as a "good developer", "good singer", "good mathematician", "good engineer" or "good anything else". The market is not perfect, nobody is, it's commendable, that one guy, not a huge company with millions of dollars, created a market, which became so popular and helped people to trade with almost no fees. He's learning, people improve only by facing and solving problems, sitting on a couch wont lead you far.
Instead of coming here and writing this not very valuable comment, you could reviewed your ideas on a paper and send them to Simon with an offer to help improve the exchange.
1.) how do you know what i write on paper and help to improve who? 2.) yeah nobody is born as a programmer,you're right. (but maybe a few) but i can learn and improve by writing a shell-script which displays me the current exchange-rate of what ever and not learning "real-life"-database-programming with the hard earned money of thousands of people. in this case i would seek for big help. you take that a little bit to easy i think. (maybe you didn't lose anything?) 3.) for me, YOUR comment was not valuable at all, because you just do what a lot of people do in forums: "tell other people to not complain and instead they should do something about it like being productive" well, thats an old shoe, a really old shoe. 4.) im not complaining, i try to express some ideas to see what people think about it thats all, i don't need you explaining me the old shoe... you taught me nothing new here 5.)"almost no fees" im not so sure about that anymore. 6.)i didnt attack this person in no way, so why you come up with this, you probably feel very smart criticize other peoples thoughts. greets |
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you talk about months/years... you forgot "never".
im a little upset from this guy. i mean he knew at the very first moment, the first customer, the first deposit, the first entry in his database, that he got other peoples mony in his responsibility.
i heard about a bug which went on since 4 weeks and no change here. i mean what did he think? thata the problem will get solved from itself? ok maybe hes not that guilty because this happend at the very same time where big players like MtGox and others had problems. who ever triggered this thing...
but if i ran that service and experience problems i would go and get some help. i mean at least a security-guy should have been onboard.
i didnt had 49.000 € on bitcoin-24, by far not as much and i had it in bitcoins. but im not a rich person and thats why i am upset, i feel the loss of that money.
i dont know but if someone behaves like that, hes probably one of those persons i wouldnt just like. ok he run that service free and so on, but finally was that really free?
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i hear more and more that hes not a very good developer. thats everthing else but good. how should he know if some backdoor is lurking on his database-server? i mean the site seems to me quite big. why didnt he get some people to help him? like they do with open source projects... why didnt he made a dedicated site like www.helpme.bitcoin-24.de like some kind of blog where he could ask everything you would ask on a programming-forum but with the feature that hes the only one who can post questions. there are a lot of programmers in the bitcoin-community who would have been happy to help him, im sure. if he wants to get back to his hobby, he must do something like this, else 24 will run into problems again and again and... |
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hi,
is there a way to find out what APIKEY i have or could i access the API user and passsword?
thanks
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hi, i transfered my BTC from gox to bitcoin-24, approximately 2 hours before bitcoin-24 went down. about 3 hours later i saw the transaction on blocḱchain.info. but i dont know enough about BTC-network to know if that transaction i see on blockchain.info means it arrived on my bitcoin24-wallet. anyway, either way - what do you think, will i get the BTCs or are they lost in the cloud? i ask because i read that the problem is a closed bitcoin-24 bank-account and i also read that it is a bug in the trading engine or even worse, both. yes, and i dont know if i have to worry or not... any explanation. speculation or donation  would be nice. best regards peops and good luck for all my boat comrades! bye! |
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