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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO] 🚀 Adbank 🤖: The New World Currency of Online Advertising on: January 04, 2018, 08:00:12 PM
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Sharing of post 1 week older by the time you join the campaign will cause you to lose all your stakes

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Don't post another report weekly, Just edit your first weekly post until the end of the campaign, Those who will not comply will receive no stake at the end of the campaign. Take note also to the date of submission of report

Stuff like these are very discouraging.

So someone makes a mistake and loses all the effort s/he put? And the posts s/he shared to the relatives, friends, colleagues (no less than 500 people to boot), all become for nothing?

Dont give stakes for any post that is outdated per that first rule, thats understandable, but give people their shares for any legitimate post.

...........

Also, despite you referred me to the first post when i asked about how to group the facebook posts per date in report, i still understand nothing after reading the original post:

Is the date cutoffs per week there for end date for posts? Ie, a fb post adbank made on 4 jan will be classified into week 7, or week 8 according to this cutoff date? moreover it says forum time too. why.

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Week 8 Links(01-07-2018 forum time):
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Global marketplace Storiqa on: January 04, 2018, 04:06:22 PM
My ban is removed as well.

However, reading the ~200 messages which piled up after the day i was banned, i see that your support reps are talking about banning way too much in response to criticism.

I still cant decide whether this project will flop or a scam or will it succeed in floating, but the word 'ban' flying around every other second when someone criticizes something is not a way to run any project - especially when those people are bringing rational arguments with polite language, like dominic.



3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Global marketplace Storiqa on: January 03, 2018, 12:27:48 PM
That still doesnt explain why they banned me (and possibly other users) from their telegram group for talking about it, and for especially referencing this thread.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Global marketplace Storiqa on: January 03, 2018, 11:17:52 AM
They also listed Maynard Webb, former ebayer. There seem to be numerous other people listed as 'advisors' who dont seem to have anything to do with them.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO] 🚀 Adbank 🤖: The New World Currency of Online Advertising on: January 03, 2018, 01:04:15 AM
....

By the way, how do we classify the links per weeks in the forum report post? Does "Week 8 Links(01-07-2018 forum time):" mean adbank facebook posts starting from 01/07 or up to 01/07?

I see some people putting recent posts and older posts under week 8, some people doing it differently.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Global marketplace Storiqa on: January 02, 2018, 07:16:32 PM
Upon referring the above post, I was banned from their Telegram group.

Extremely suspicious.
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Global marketplace Storiqa on: January 02, 2018, 06:42:33 PM
They had PayPal CIO Bradley Strock on their website listed as advisor, and one of their reps posted a message in telegram about how he was their advisor, however Bradley Strock seems to have declared that his name was being used without permission. They seem to have removed his name from their website now.

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Every step, every meeting, every business trip brings its fruits. We still have a positive resonance from American roadshow.  😎

Remember we did it in November?!  

Since that time we were negotiating with two important influencers in business.
We are proud to announce that our advisory board has been broadened. We have two advisors worth to be mentioned and discussed. They are Maynard Webb and Bradley Strock. 💫

✅Maynard Webb is former COO eBay
He is talented entrepreneur which has 30 years experience in the tech industry and held every position in a workplace (from entry-level to CEO). He willingly share his knowledge and life-lessons covering entrepreneurship. He knows all challenges of working in — and running — a startup. Btw, you get acquainted with him closer here: https://www.forbes.com/sites/maynardwebb/#6daeca8465cc

✅Bradley Strock is CIO of Paypal.
Being responsible for information technology he knows all pitfalls and peculiarities of IT. Lovely interview about the industry with Bradley Strock: https://cloudblogs.microsoft.com/enterprisemobility/2017/01/10/brad-andersons-lunch-break-s3-e9-brad-strock-cio-paypal/

Maynard Webb
Maynard Webb's stories.

ico.storiqa.com seems to have been redirected to crowdsale.storiqa.com. When googled, the cache of google still shows Bradley Strock's name in its search snippet, along with a host of important Silicon Valley names:

https://www.google.com/search?q=bradley+strock+storiqa&oq=bradley+strock+storiqa&aqs=chrome..69i57.2788j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8

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Storiqa
https://ico.storiqa.com/
Storiqa market perspectives. E-commerce boost. Customers market growth. Boost. Growth. Meet our team. Maynard Webb Linkedin. Maynard Webb. Advisor. Former COO eBay. Founder, Webb Investment Network. Co-Founder, Everwise. Author, «Rebooting Work». Board member Visa & Salesforce. Bradley Strock ...
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] BANKERA - the Bank for the Blockchain Era on: January 02, 2018, 01:32:31 PM
I just had a light bulb moment. After being initially troubled with the choice or era-word on their tagline "the Bank for the Blockchain era", it's actually quite clever. Bank+Era = Bankera.

 Roll Eyes

Couldnt it have come from the metal group "Pantera"?
9  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: tax on bitcoin profits in spain (and other EU countries)? on: December 26, 2017, 10:02:38 PM
It was a pleasant discussion. Needless to say, its a bit out of the boundaries of bitcointalk to enter a long philosophical, analytic discussion of systems and histories.

I would recommend Quora for such topics, like socialism, communism, capitalism, the impact of impending AI revolution and its impact on economy and inevitable consequences and so on.

Good evening.
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO] 🚀 Adbank 🤖: The New World Currency of Online Advertising on: December 26, 2017, 09:50:29 PM
Bitcointalk Username: unity100
Facebook Name: Oz Zeren
Spreadsheet No.:508
Week 1 Links(11-19-2017 forum time):
Week 2 Links(11-26-2017 forum time):
Week 3 Links(12-03-2017 forum time):
Week 4 Links(12-10-2017 forum time):
Week 5 Links(12-17-2017 forum time):
Week 6 Links(12-24-2017 forum time):
Week 7 Links(12-31-2017 forum time):
https://www.facebook.com/ozgur.zeren/posts/10155228489253106
https://www.facebook.com/ozgur.zeren/posts/10155228490233106
https://www.facebook.com/ozgur.zeren/posts/10155228490643106
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https://www.facebook.com/ozgur.zeren/posts/10155237091943106
Week 8 Links(01-07-2018 forum time):
https://www.facebook.com/ozgur.zeren/posts/10155240013178106
https://www.facebook.com/ozgur.zeren/posts/10155243571363106
https://www.facebook.com/ozgur.zeren/posts/10155245907303106
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https://www.facebook.com/ozgur.zeren/posts/10155253804993106
Week 9 Links(01-14-2018 forum time):
https://www.facebook.com/ozgur.zeren/posts/10155257678778106
https://www.facebook.com/ozgur.zeren/posts/10155260060068106
https://www.facebook.com/ozgur.zeren/posts/10155266155808106
https://www.facebook.com/ozgur.zeren/posts/10155266156158106
https://www.facebook.com/ozgur.zeren/posts/10155266156678106
Week 10 Links(01-21-2018 forum time):
11  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: tax on bitcoin profits in spain (and other EU countries)? on: December 26, 2017, 09:27:07 PM
Amazingly, the forum censored a wall street journal article link as 'suspicious link'. i had to replace the article from harvard business review...
12  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: tax on bitcoin profits? on: December 26, 2017, 09:20:31 PM
Personally I hate communism and I won't understand why anyone would be in favour of the system that has worked like a cancer everywhere it appeared.

That would be due to not knowing what communism is, and confusing marxist-leninist state capitalism with communism. Its a common mistake to make especially in US or other anglo-american countries, because these countries have gone through immense propaganda to vilify communism, not leninism, state capitalism or even mistermed socialism, because communism was a threat to the established 0.1%'s control on economy and politics.

And even if one uses the incorrect terms for communism:

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Thanks to it the Eastern Europe is still in a disadvantage compared to its Western part and countries where Communism has ruled for too long have gone through civil wars, martial law, dictators and poverty. Communism cannot exist in a modern world because it's model of power is delusional, mythical. It will always end up the way the Animal Farm did.

Actually, those countries are in EU since last 15~ years, and they are even worse than when they started:

A ~10% of population lives much, much better and in much luxury, but a majority has to do with considerably less than what they had during leninism.

During those 'poverty' times, they had full employment guarantee, free housing, free education, free healthcare, reasonable work hours, reasonable retirement age, paid vacations, immense number of free social clubs which would cost in the order of ~10,000-15,000/year in US to obtain memberships (not that one could use all of them but eh), never had to fear homelessness, bankruptcy or anything of that order, leave aside the neoliberal stressful work environment they face today.

The ironical result is that now a good deal of them are immigrants in Western Europe, and they are being the target of anti-immigration sentiments and vilification. So much that they had become a major item in Brexit politics.

As for 'animal farm', as chomsky says any dictator would admire the cooperation and obedience of western media - and the mythical freedom so much advocated in the west actually does not exist:

Leaving aside you are only as free as the size of your wallet and any freedom is limited financially so that only those who are compliant with the system can have any say, if per chance people so much as shake themselves up and start organizing, the real face of the system immediately shows itself.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/dec/29/fbi-coordinated-crackdown-occupy

Proving once that Voltaire's timeless words about finding out who is ruling you by looking at whom you are not allowed to criticize, Occupy protesters were bagged, harassed, beaten on the ground and arrested to be fined tens of thousands of dollars for trespassing on public property, effectively bankrupting many of them since these are ordinary people who would not be able to shell out such cash, and discouraging millions who could not risk encountering the same fines. In short, freedom was again tied to the size of one's wallet, and they didnt have the wallet size for that freedom.

All of this happened after press was pushed away from the relevant areas and prevented from taking footage. So much for media freedom.

In the end, all these people needed to do to see the real breadth and width of their liberty was to criticize who really rules them: Wall Street.

After 2011, numerous 3 letter agencies and many private corporations started using the word 'terrorism' in regard to activists, anti-corporate crowd, and anyone who challenges who's really in power.


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I won't argue about the level and number of services offered in Spain because I haven't been there, but to compare:
Bulgaria 10% on both corporate and individual

Bulgaria, Romania are still in the process of letting multinational corporations plunder their natural resources, and they are also recipients of Eu aid to industrialize and raise life standards.

But before that, the quality of healthcare, education, services in Spain and these two countries cannot even be compared. If otherwise, there wouldnt be so many romanians in Spain.

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Belarus: corporate 18% individual 13%-17%, no taxes on cryptocurrencies

Man...

Belarus is de facto Soviet Union, still. Run in the manner of soviet union, structured in the manner of soviet union, it even still retains KGB as name of its intelligence service.

Public ownership of major natural resources is another way of funding a state and social services, by the way. Numerous countries do it, and that also includes Norway.

Its still public ownership of resources. Except, instead of a nation selling out their natural resources to private corporations for plunder, it retains them and uses the profits. Then taxes can be naturally reduced, for they are being met from another resource.

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Even in Russia you have 13% individual and 20% corporate and I believe all these countries offer free education.

To quote Vladimir Vladimirovich:

"Russia is a company owned by a country".

The reason Vladimir Putin is so popular is that he runs Russia as USSR 2.0. All major natural resources, especially oil, are owned through state owned corporations, and these fund the state and its programs.

On top of that Vladimir Putin not only revived numerous Soviet Era labour awards with the name "Russian" at the start instead of "Soviet", but also has brought back various important features like youth organizations back.

Immense oil profits and defense profits via state owned companies allow Russia to retain many services free or very cheap. So even if they cannot match the surefire guarantee levels and amplitude of services and service quality like in USSR days, they can still sport a pretty socialized state.

To top that their capitalism is weird: Corporations do what state tells them to do.

When US forced Eu to sanction Russia, with big expense to Eu businesses, Putin government said 'we will do import substitution and turn our face Eastward".

Entire country retooled and started to integrate with China and new silk road, not even one corporation or company tried to refuse or lobby against the change, leave aside spending money to force government to do what they want instead of what the electorate wants. In US, such a situation would be unimaginable.

Its easy to understand what "Russia is a company owned by a country" means by looking at that example...

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Awarding people lower taxes for being less productive and punishing others with higher ones for doing something right is exploitation at its finest.

No, letting people employ 3 million people and giving them dimes to make a fortune bigger than 150 countries in the world is exploitation.

Thats what Walton family is. Something bigger than 150 countries in the world. They could easily become their own empire over the backs of the people they make work, and the small businesses they bankrupted.

Any organization that grows to thousands of people cannot be considered like a small shop run by one person. Its no longer one person's actual honest effort, but one or few majority shareholders making people work, and taking most of the value generated.

The people who get highest share from their actual work are top technical personnel in Silicon Valley companies, and even they get to a maximum of 10% they create.

Everyone else on the planet get much less than 10% of what actual economic value they create, all the rest goes to majority shareholders of that corporation.

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The problem with prepaid, government run healthcare is that it creates lines, huge lines.If you are in need you end up waiting months or even years for it because there are hundreds of people waiting for the same thing and the hospital has a limited number of (...). Many people have to go to a private clinic and pay anyway, even though they've been paying healthcare tax for the last 20 years.

Please dont talk from hearsay and propaganda.

Such a reality does not exist. Nowhere in Europe, Japan, or even in Russia or the examples you gave.

It just doesnt freaking exist. It only exists in the speak that come out of private think-thanks which receive healthcare money in US, and fox news, but the latter is among the former anyway.

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To give you an example, I had my health insurance years ago and I had to go to the dentist. I got told that x-rays aren't refunded and so are painkillers and so is the root canal treatment that I had to do. Guess what my insurance would cover. The extraction...

In almost all countries with socialized healthcare, dental is not covered. That's not an example. And in many of such countries, if the dental situation was causing a health situation, the system would take care of it.

But...

I very much suspect you are in UK or another country which suffered through a series of neoliberal governments in the past decade and went through privatization push for those services.

NHS has been underfunded, and crippled in order to justify privatizing it for a long time. Similar stunts were pulled in numerous other countries who got through neoliberal governments.

Farage in UK was talking about how UK needed an 'american style system' before Brexit. Now he seems to have shut up after the 300 mil pounds a month for nhs lie got out.

Neoliberal right wing government which has been in power since last 10 years in Spain wanted to do the same to spanish health system.

Spaniards went out to streets. Blood was spilled. Neoliberal government had to pipe down. That was not even enough, for after that Spaniards gave ~20% of the assembly to communists, another 20% to socialists. Madrid state assembly was taken over by socialists, and a socialist (not social democrat) woman was put as president.

That's how you protect your public services from rape and privatization. If you dont, it takes around a decade before they cripple and sell it all...

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I agree with the rest, the system in the US isn't good and the corporations aren't good

My chap...

The system in US is not 'not good', its murderous. Glaxo Smith Klein was not the only company which got prosecuted for killing hundreds of thousands of people at that point in time, there were 3 others, and together, these 4 corporations constitute the majority of pharmaceutical sector.

Moreover the system itself kills people every day.

https://www.quora.com/Were-there-any-American-citizens-living-on-US-soil-who-died-because-they-couldnt-afford-healthcare/answer/Dem-Stag
https://www.quora.com/Were-there-any-American-citizens-living-on-US-soil-who-died-because-they-couldnt-afford-healthcare/answer/Robert-Rister
https://www.quora.com/In-the-U-S-if-an-uninsured-homeless-man-shows-up-in-the-emergency-room-in-urgent-need-of-a-100-000-operation-will-the-hospital-perform-it-or-let-him-die/answer/Robert-Rister
https://www.quora.com/Have-any-American-citizens-ever-been-personally-denied-healthcare-in-the-USA/answer/Tessa-E-Tea
https://www.quora.com/Have-any-American-citizens-ever-been-personally-denied-healthcare-in-the-USA/answer/Jack-Menendez

These are personal stories. Below are statistics.

http://inthesetimes.com/article/18638/barbara-ehrenreich-americas-blue-collar-white-people-are-dying-at-astoundin

Corporations are past the point of sociopathy. For, it is encouraged, rewarded and even enforced.

https://hbr.org/2012/03/psychopaths-on-wall-street


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but the system in the EU isn't either. They're blindly taking in migrants that they later have to fight on the streets and they're making the citizens pay for it all.

Compared to US, system in Eu would be Star Trek compared to 1000 AD.

Migrants are an ironic point - because it is neoliberal right wing governments which are taking in immigrants as a means to reduce labor costs to make way for more corporate profits...
13  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: tax on bitcoin profits? on: December 26, 2017, 07:36:04 PM
So you're supporting socialism, did I read it right?

What you call socialism would be termed social democracy here, and actually, in Spain there are a lot of actual socialists (not social democrats) and a decent amount of the voter base is communist. Actual communists.

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I'm not putting the US on a pedestal here as it's still taking a huge part of your salary and not giving a lot in return. I'm rather looking the other way round as there are countries not far from Spain that still have free education and healthcare and aren't forcing you to give away 1/4 of your income,

Actually, there isnt any such country. Spain is one of the countries which have considerably lower taxes in europe.

And, in other countries outside europe which have low income tax rates but still provide full coverage of free services, these are generally funded via corporate taxes.

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Do you really like the idea of depending on the government to provide these services?

Actually i am a big enthusiast of it.

Leaving aside the fact that the 'bad government, good 'market'' thing is a religious belief which pertains pretty much only to US political discourse:

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I'd rather have the money and the ability to pay at the time of need instead of letting others decide whether I do or do not.

Every single private corporation in a private market will have profit maximization at any cost as their target.

Which, creates circumstances like in US, where someone can die $50 short of a diabetes drug, or a medium grade operation can cost over $50,000 whereas one night in hospital can cost in between $3000-$7000 (the latest is old statistic, its probably higher now).

Without even entering the topic of selling lead painted toys, or instigating wars on lies to profit from weapon sales and the stuff like that.

.........

A government is beholden to its voters. Screw them, and an informed electorate will screw you well, and even they will elect a government to properly prosecute your hide for what you did to them.

A private corporation is not beholden to anybody - it can choose to sell drugs to 300 million people, knowing that it will kill hundreds of thousands of people from side effects, which they will move to prevent anyone from leaking through bribery and harassment, kill over 150,000 people due to heart attacks resulting from their drug, get discovered, prosecuted by government, get fined $4 billion for killing 150,000 people, and still make $11 billion net profit in the process.

That's what Glaxo Smith Klein did in US. You dont even know about this, because you didnt hear it since it wasnt made major news in premium corporate media. Its bad for joint investments of their majority shareholders after all...

So yeah, instead of a private corporation which would seek out profiting at any cost, i would much rather trust my government to handle my affairs, because at least i have the power to place them, depose them, and prosecute them if necessary. A politician is responsible with what s/he does. In contrast, a private citizen running a private company has much, much reduced responsibility.

It is understandable that there is a great distrust in government in US, because government and private sector have revolving doors in between them and lobbyist money basically makes the laws. And electorate doesnt mean zit, because it takes money to run an election campaign, and its not the people who have the money. It is natural that you vote, vote, and vote, but things never change.

However this also has been your mistake - you bought the 'evil government' discourse, and let the people who wanted to create exactly this environment in which you would be powerless against big, massive money, take the helm.


14  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: tax on bitcoin profits? on: December 26, 2017, 06:46:01 PM
Hey Serpens66,

I moved from Germany to Spain and just got into the tax issue too. As far as I'm aware there's no 1 year differentiation here any more. Trading profits always count as savings income, so the base del ahorro (max 23%) applies, no matter how long you held.

Sources:
http://www.bolsamania.com/declaracion-impuestos-renta/como-tributan-los-bitcoins-en-la-renta/
https://noticias.infocif.es/noticia/tributacion-de-los-bitcoins
They are getting greedy it seems. Someone noticed the increased value and rising popularity and pushed through a "better" option.
"Look, those investors are now going to have a lot of money, why lose an opportunity to get some more cash into our budget?"

First, it is advisable to understand what you read before commenting on it.

According to those posts the tax rate seems to be reduced, classifying any conversion of coins as investment.

But second:

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Also I'm amazed that they have such high taxes for high income. 45% tax? WTF? It saddens me that Spain is ruled by socialists.

Im amazed that the people of other countries, namely the US and the like, can pay through nose for the services the people in Spain receive almost for free, but still not get even half the service people in Spain are getting, while living in perpetual risk of medical bankruptcy or peril of sending a kid to college amidst student loans reaching $100,000 ceiling, and yet then still criticize, and 'lament' the 'state of socialist countries'.

No amount of taxes you save in a non socialist country will save you when your private insurance bails out of paying for your necessities. Then, welcome, medical bankruptcy. Or, death.

https://www.themaven.net/theintellectualist/news/american-dies-after-coming-up-50-short-for-insulin-SS40PFVy_0eop_3N2Q_8Vw

Something like that would end in a riot or a revolution in Spain.

Beyond that, to get the healthcare levels one can get in Spain you would pay around ~$10,000/year and then still be required to 'pay at the point of service' in the US. And then it wouldnt cover a lot of other things, and then it wouldnt be valid in all hospitals in all states, and then it would also always have the risk of insurance bailing out on you.

It saddens me that people can die out of being denied healthcare because they dont have enough money in US.

If only US was socialist enough...

And this is without touching things like free education, infrastructure, other social services and stuff.
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: SMOS linux 1.3 - Scrypt Mining Operating System (24.1.2014. updated) on: January 28, 2014, 05:07:45 PM
Lack of wireless support made using smos impossible for me. im looking for other linux distros now.
Was it removed in the transition from 1.2 to 1.3?  I use 1.2 on 2 rigs with wifi usb adapters.

i have a wireless pci network card - ASUS PCE-N15 . smos doesnt recognize it from the start, and the linux driver for the card gives out errors when you try to set it up. not dependency errors though - errors from within the scripts.
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: SMOS linux 1.3 - Scrypt Mining Operating System (24.1.2014. updated) on: January 27, 2014, 09:49:14 PM
Lack of wireless support made using smos impossible for me. im looking for other linux distros now.
17  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone have a simple explanation of Bitcoin even your Grandma would understand? on: December 10, 2013, 02:56:03 AM
Grandma,

Bitcoin is like gold.

Except that it is a VERY big complicated numeric word that cannot be imitated.

So, there will only be a certain amount of bitcoins. They wont be able to discover new bitcoins like how they can discover gold deposits.

You can put it in your bag like gold, divide it to small pieces like gold and spend it.

You lose your bitcoins if your wallet gets stolen, just like you would lose your gold if your gold bag was stolen.

You cant send gold over internet, but you can send bitcoins to anyone on internet, instantly.
18  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: THE PROBLEM IN CHINA IS THE BITCOIN FOUNDATIONS FAULT on: December 10, 2013, 02:48:01 AM
China's concern is capital flight. They dont want bitcoin to be used as a means to smuggle capital abroad without going through capital controls.

That is why they banned financial institutions from funding bitcoin purchases or converting bitcoins to cash, but allowed individuals to use bitcoin as a currency for trade.
19  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Want to buy BTC or BTC-E credits with Credit Card (visa) on: December 02, 2013, 11:43:48 PM
You probably know the damnation of those who have visa cards - liqpay, the payment processor for btc-e and many other payment systems they accept, do not accept visa cards outside of CIS countries (russia and stuff).  only some mastercards work.

So despite i have good standing with many payment processors and websites for a decade or more, i cant put a dime into btc-e as i want to.

Therefore i am seeking ways to buy BTC outside those means.

So, if anyone wants to sell btcs or btc-e credits with credit card, please contact me.

"Can we trust you"

well i can show references from some places. im going to move sizeable money, so i'd rather establish an ongoing relationship with a reliable supplier. im wont be using paypal because i heard paypal is disabling people's accounts for buying ecoins - so i dont want to discomfort anyone.


Take your card to an ATM. Put it in the hole. Press the digits, take out cash. You now have 1,000 more viable options for purchasing BTC.

the commissions banks will charge will eat out the profit margin. no good.
20  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Want to buy BTC or BTC-E credits with Credit Card (visa) on: December 02, 2013, 11:09:41 PM
Regardless, i got some contacts.

To reiterate again ;

want to pay with international visa, need someone who can supply good amount of bitcoins every day, and need an ongoing relationship. even if i cant show history in here in this forum, i can show good reference in other venues like elance, digitalpoint and so on.

cant pay too high rates over btc-e rates though, since what i am going to do involves a low margin of profit for me.
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