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1  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Odd or even? on: January 16, 2022, 10:36:38 AM
Good day!

I think  that answer is NO, but maybe..

Is there any ways to understand is private key of known public key odd or even? Maybe any mathematician operations with public keys may helps?

Thank you!
2  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / How to define which coordinate is negative? on: January 11, 2022, 08:57:08 AM
Good day

I have 2 points:

P1=
14191455994323772597241090149390194844060070267542625335030526433746129697775
56665880437360020920156314485129600171712953656147713075817973497803847118302

P2=
14191455994323772597241090149390194844060070267542625335030526433746129697775
59126208799956174503414670523558307681557031009492850963639610510104987553361

Both points have the same X, and different Y
One of this points is positive (x,y), and another is negative (x,-y)

If we add this points with each other we get zero.

So how to define which coordinate is negative and which is positive? Any solution? Advices?  Huh

Thank you!
3  Local / Кодеры / Вопрос по эллипт кривой, непонятен ОДИН ша on: December 30, 2021, 11:57:18 AM
Поясните пожалуйста. Я перегуглил и пересмотрел все и вся. Но нигде и никто конкретно не объясняет как происходит сложение точки на кривой с самой собой. Много воды и мало конкретики.

Согласно тому, что я нашел некомпрес паблик это координаты xy
Получаются они путем сложения совершенно определенных координат xy с самими собой КОЛИЧЕСТВОМ раз равным размеру приват ключа.

на пальцах:

координаты
G(x) = 55066263022277343669578718895168534326250603453777594175500187360389116729240
G(y) = 32670510020758816978083085130507043184471273380659243275938904335757337482424

приват кей, пусть будет в децимал и для наглядности = 10 или в бинари 1010
Если мы используем известные библиотеки преобразования и решим получить паблик от децимальных 10
то получим паблик с децимальными координатами
x = 72488970228380509287422715226575535698893157273063074627791787432852706183111
y = 62070622898698443831883535403436258712770888294397026493185421712108624767191

Я не разбираюсь ПОКА в формулах сложения, еще темный лес, меня не это интересует - меня интересует вот эта фраза - КОЛИЧЕСТВОМ РАВНЫМ размеру приват ключа.
С десяткой получить вычисления сложения точек просто, но если реальный приват будет 2^255 - то сколько времени должно занять вычислениеHuh
Однако любой софт это делает также быстро как и для вычисления десятки. Еще я встречал, что количество сложений не может быть более 256 (или 512 раз)
А значит всего скорее вычисление идет как то по бинарному моду НО КАК?

Кто нибудь может объяснить какое именно количество раз складываются точки и как это зависит от приват кея?

Спасибо!
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / [BOUNTY-2] - MMM.finance - the easiest money! on: April 01, 2018, 07:49:47 PM
We are glad to announce a new bounty!

We will give you 1 MMM token (0.001 Ethereum) for posts in following topic:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3210000

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3207538 (in Russian)


Posts can contain any reasonable content, including constructive criticism. However, first of all, read our white paper before posting.

Payments are made daily.

The scheme of cooperation is elementary. You send me the address of your ethereum wallet in personal message. Every day I count posts under your nickname on the URLs written above and send you tokens.

It is the simplest bounty! Don’t miss the chance and get tokens, which in case of successful ICO can be reliably exchanged for Ethereum.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / [BOUNTY] - MMM.finance - 0,025 ethereum for you * * * on: March 30, 2018, 08:30:52 PM
Our ICO topic - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3210000

One part of our promotional campaign is freely distributing 10,000 MMM to 200 people, 50 tokens per person. We want to distribute the tokens to active crypto investors who publicly post their successes and failures to social and messaging networks. Each drop will be selected individually, without inflexible criteria.

To apply, send the following information to info@mmm.finance:

- Links to the places where you post information about your investment portfolio. This can be any location: YouTube and Telegram channels, personal blogs, Facebook pages, and even threads on popular forums. Any place where you have sufficient popularity works for us.
- The e-wallet associated with your social channel. Unfortunately, the crypto space has many scammers, and we must make certain the tokens are sent to the actual owner of the social network and messaging materials.
- Your Bitcointalk.org name (optional).

If you are approved, you will receive your tokens within 24 hours.

Thank you.


6  Local / 대체코인 Alt Coins (한국어) / ICO project looking for translator! At least 1,5 ethereum will be yours *** on: March 28, 2018, 09:06:08 PM

ICO project looking for translator! At least 1,5 ethereum will be yours in case of successful ICO!

We need people to represent our project in your country.

Representatives ensure the creation of a quality translation of our white paper in their language and maintain a thread on the Bitcointalk.org forum. If Bitcointalk doesn’t have a subforum for your locale, we are happy to discuss activity on other social platforms. Other responsibilities, agreed upon in advance, might be part of the deal as well.

We pay each representative 3,000 MMM tokens (worth 3 ethereum at the ICO price). You can also use a referral link in your Bitcointalk.org thread. That way, all of the traffic from your country will make you huge commissions!

After end of ICO, you can change your MMM token to ethereum automatically with rate 2000 MMM tokens to 1 ethereum. So you will get at least 1,5 ethereum guaranteed.

Contact us via info@mmm.finance - mail only, it's important.


7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / [ICO][BOUNTY][AIRDROP][REFERRAL!] - MMM.finance - 1% daily! on: March 28, 2018, 06:29:25 AM
We proudly present: the new MMM token project!

Our token will not revolutionize the high-tech world. We have no plans to lie to you about the great future of our ICO. Nor will we tell you to invest all of your money with us. All we ask is that you read and think about the next 30 lines and then study our white paper to see our token’s philosophy and potential.

Our token is a powerful speculative instrument. It is completely transparent, with guaranteed interest and the potential for extraordinary growth in price (100x to 1000x) and a clear token lifespan. Its functionality, thoughtful speculative characteristics, and profitability are ideal for high-risk investments.
Also, our smart contract protects token holders from loss. A freeze of half of the funds raised by the ICO is reserved in case the token’s price drops below the ICO price. At any time, you as a token holder can automatically exchange your purchased tokens for half the value of the ICO purchase price.

I’ll explain the major points here. You’ll be able to learn about the details in our white paper.

We have issued 999,000,000 tokens, some of which you can purchase during the ICO at a fixed sale price. After the completion of the ICO, we will automatically send 1% daily interest on your token balance to your wallet.
That’s 1% every day.
Compounded over one month, that means you receive 36% interest on your initial balance. Over six months, that’s 500%. If you hold your coins for one whole year, your balance will be increased by 36 times!
All of these interest payments are fully transparent. Thanks to the blockchain, anyone can see when payments are made and to whom, as well as how many tokens have been paid in total and how many remain.
After the first year, the interest rate will drop to 0.5% per day. After the second year, it will drop to 0.1% per day. Interest will accrue until all of the available coins have been issued.
Investing money in our tokens means you will receive income, guaranteed by our smart contract, for approximately six years. The conditions of this contract can never be modified!
I think we’ve said enough on this point. By now, I’m sure you see that these tokens are an asset when held in your wallet.

Now for the most important number of all: the value of the tokens. Most readers probably have a question on their minds, and it’s a perfectly reasonable one: why will these tokens increase in value? After all, if the token is inflationary, with new tokens being issued into the supply, then its price should fall. But that’s not true at all! The supply of the tokens can increase, but as long as the number of token holders also increases, the supply increase will not reduce the price. Who would sell an immensely profitable asset? Who would sell holdings generating them 36% monthly interest? And who would sell holdings that keep going up in price?


Besides the token interest, the most important growth in value is speculation, and the success of speculation depends on getting the token listed on exchanges and on attracting the maximum possible number of people trading our token.
For this reason, all funds received from the ICO will be invested in advertising and promoting the token. The majority of our income afterwards will also be invested in promotion. We are, like you, openly interested in increasing demand for (the price of) our tokens, and we will take every step available to accomplish this. We have developed a multifaceted PR campaign which includes the referral and airdrop programs. I’m afraid I can’t disclose everything here, but believe me when I say that all funds from the ICO will go exclusively towards popularizing the token.

To me, a manifold increase in the value of the token over the eighteen months following the ICO is obviously highly likely. An unusual asset like ours will ride the overall wave of crypto hype, arouse interest, and create further demand. The early buyers will be the biggest winners of all. For them, a minimal investment will bring in maximal returns. We are proud to announce that we have created the ideal speculative instrument! Yes, some people will end up the unlucky ones. But you won’t be one of them!

Please see our white paper for details on how our project works.

Missed out on buying Bitcoin in 2010? Spend a half hour reading our white paper and you’ll have the chance to make the best crypto investment of your life!

P.S. Our offer for company representatives is excellent, and we have very profitable referral and airdrop campaigns, too. See the details in our white paper.

Our site https://mmm.finance
https://mmm.finance/whitepaper_en.pdf - WHITEPAPER!
Telegram: https://t.me/mmmfinance


==== updated 29.03.2018 ====


I would like to describe the project in a few words once again with the aim to avoid absurd comparisons with the hyips and pyramids made by narrow-minded people. So, there are the most important points.

1. Smart contract. For those who don’t know - this is a set of certain rules that are unchangeable after launch. Smart contract is not mine or yours - it does not belong to anyone. This is a program in which the pre-written rules are executed. Neither you nor we can influence the implementation of these programs. Simply put, our entire project is a set of rules and conditions fixed in a smart contract. Unlike hyip or pyramid controlled by the organizer, the program is NOT controlled by anyone, it is visible for EVERYONE and stored in Ethereum BlockChain.

2. Money. We don’t pocket your money because we don’t need them. It’s silly to compare our project with hyip, the owner of which pockets all cash and follows the aim to embezzle as much money as possible. In contrast to hyip in our project you get the interest-bearing coins for FREE and not for account of anyone else. Money from ICO is needed only for a small, but very important aim - output of a token on the stock exchange. Plus the additional PR. But this is also your goal as the owners of coins - the more exchanges and PR, the higher is the price. And you do not spend your money on it, but we spend it.

3. Interests. As I`ve already said - they are free for you, formed from the existing database of tokens and guaranteed in contrast to hyip. Guaranteed by a smart contract. Once again - GUARANTEED. You will always receive them according to the terms of the contract. In case of hyip or pyramid everything can end unexpectedly and you will lose everything.

4. Protection. There are two. The first - ICO hasn`t started up - 500 ethereum haven`t been scored. The contract will return you everything back. The second - ICO has started up, but the price has fallen more than twice - you automatically make a return of half of your money. We have foreseen the risks as much as possible (the second item could even be not introduced, by the way no one has anything similar!) and protected you. Is there anything similar in hyip?))

Ok, let’s suppose that you`re interested, but you don’t have money - how can you raise tokens for free? For services. And we made it very convenient, understandable and profitable. And different from others. Just read the paper if you want to know how. I hope this post will motivate you to do this – I just don`t want to copy everything here.

And now about the disadvantages or risks.


Nobody is able to criticize as I. I will repeat from the paper - we have created the "most honest project". It`s absolutely open - the code of the entire contract is publicly available - download, watch, study.

And we are not going to hide disadvantages and risks:

1) We will not be able to enter the stock exchanges. It is out of the question - our token will be in the exchanges, it's 100%. Honestly saying the question is in the "size" of these exchanges. We`ll see how it goes.

2) The price will fall below the half of the original cost - well, it`s possible, but you can return the half of the cost of the tokens at any time.

3) We will take the half of the ICO (the second half is frozen in the contract) and run away. It is the ingenious plan, but it will be much more profitable for us to upsell a token and sell it than to run away with copecks. Anyway, whatever happens the token will live. It's already launched.

So there are all the risks.

By the way you can always check the balance of OUR personal e-wallet on the https://mmm.finance and you can examine the smart contract for yourself at https://github.com/mmmfinance/mmm_contract.

Once again we strongly recommend you to spend 10 minutes to read the paper and make the decision.




==== updated 01.04.2018 ====


For all who have written negative comments. How can you compare the scheme of Ponzi and our system? Have you read the information written above?

Ponzi means the disbursal to previous investors for account of new investors and control of the entire cash flow. In contrast to this we have the smart contract, not controlled by anyone, according to which the interest rate is payed from the total amount of already made token emission. We do not control your investments and do not make money from them!

In future only those who bought tokens in advance on ICO will be initially able to trade them. Exactly these people will be the holders of tokens and exactly they will initially set the price for tokens.

Our task is to bring the tokens to the maximum number of exchanges, thereby increasing liquidity and the value of the coin. And we will do it.

What about the bitconnect, the platform itself is interesting and deserves attention. However their credit robot is made exactly according to the scheme of Ponzi, absolutely not transparent and dependent on new investments. A big help for the organizers is the presence of a stock exchange controlled by them - this allows to realize certain price movements, helping the credit robot to pay interests.

In our system everything is absolutely transparent – the code of the smart contract is publicly available, all wallets in Ethereum blockchain are visible for everyone. Everything can be checked and evaluated. Study the white paper, there is lots of interesting and new.

Buy our tokens! Your risks are minimal, and in case of luck you will get much more!!!

If the ICO doesn’t succeed, you will get all your money back automatically! If the ICO succeeds, but the selling price will become lower than buying price, you will get back half of money! Believe me, this is much more reliable than other ICO, buy at least 10 tokens (0.01 of Ethereum) and in two month you will get them back or (I believe in it very much!) they will bring you a multiple increase!

Our team consists of 4 people. Personally I have been engaged in business in the network since 1998. I have a huge experience in various areas, and I am sure that this project is future-proof.

I only need your support and together we will make our common project MMM.finance worldwide famous!

Once again – read the white paper, there is lots of interesting and new.

8  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / [ICO][BOUNTY][AIRDROP][REFERRAL!] - MMM.finance - 1% ежедневно! on: March 27, 2018, 08:49:15 PM
Здравствуйте!

С гордостью представляем вам токен нового проекта MMM!

Наш токен не перевернет мир высоких технологий, мы не будем вам врать о великом будущем, которое несет очередное ИКО, и даже не призываем вкладывать в нас все ваши деньги. Мы просто просим вас прочитать следующие 20 строчек, задуматься и, изучив, white paper - осознать истинную перспективу нашей монеты!

Наш токен это мощнейший спекулятивный инструмент. Абсолютно прозрачный, с гарантированным приростом, перспективой фантастического удорожания (x100-x1000) и четкими сроками жизни. Его функционирование, его продуманные спекулятивные характеристики, его доходность просто идеальны для высокорискового инвестирования!

Кроме этого наша монета защищена контрактом от убытков!!! Мы ввели заморозку половины  собранных средств на ИКО на случай падения цены ниже уровня покупки. Вы в любой момент срока жизни контракта можете автоматически обменять купленные монеты за половину стоимости приобретения. МАКСИМУМ, что вы потеряете – половина вложенного. А приумножить сможете многократно!

В этом посте я изложу основные моменты, а с деталями вы сможете ознакомиться в white paper.

Мы выпустили 999 000 000 токенов, часть которой вы можете приобрести в течение ИКО по фиксированной цене. Далее, после окончания ИКО, мы начнем автоматически начислять в ваши кошельки каждый день 1% от вашего баланса.
Каждый день. 1 процент.
В месяц это +36% от первоначальной суммы, за полгода +500%, а еще через полгода количество ваших монет увеличится в 36 раз!!!
Все эти начисления будут абсолютно прозрачны и благодаря блокчейну, каждый сможет увидеть когда, кому, и сколько ушло токенов и сколько еще остается на выплаты.
Через год ставка снизится до 0,5 процента в день, а еще через год – до 0,1 процента в день. Начисление процентов будет длиться до истечения  количества свободных монет.
Вкладывая деньги в наши токены вы получаете гарантированный, прописанный в контракте, доход примерно на 6 лет вперед. Эти условия изменить невозможно!
Я думаю, с этой частью мы разобрались, и то, что монеты, находясь в кошельке, являются активом - происходит постоянное приращение - вам очевидно.

Теперь переходим к важнейшему параметру - стоимости монет.
У читателя, конечно, возникнет разумный вопрос - а почему вообще должен происходить рост стоимости монет - ведь количество монет прибавляется - значит, их цена должна падать. НЕТ! Количество монет прибавляется, но количество владельцев монет увеличиваться если и будет, то совсем незначительно!!! Кто захочет лишаться актива со сверхдоходностью? Кто будет продавать актив, генерирующий 36% ежемесячноHuh Кто будет продавать актив, постоянно растущий в цене?!


Кроме процентного дохода, важнейшим ростом цены является спекуляционная составляющая, успешность которой зависит от выхода на биржи и привлечения максимального количества участников в торги по нашему токену.
Именно поэтому все деньги, полученные от ICO, будут инвестированы в рекламу и продвижение монеты. Также в продвижение будет и вложена последующая бОльшая часть нашего дохода. Мы прямо (как и вы) заинтересованы в повышении спроса (цены) на нашу монету и приложим все усилия, вложим все доступные средства для этого. У нас продумана разнообразная пиар кампания, в том числе с использованием реферальной и airdrop систем. Здесь я, к сожалению, не могу раскрыть всю информацию, просто поверьте - все свободные средства от ИКО пойдут исключительно на популяризацию монеты.

Для меня очевидно, что рост стоимости монет на ближайшие полгода после старта - чрезвычайно вероятен. На волне всеобщего хайпа, такой необычный актив вызовет интерес и подхлестнет дальнейший спрос. Но особенно выиграет тот, кто будет первым покупателям, именно он соберёт при минимуме вложений максимально все сливки. Мы гордимся тем что сделали идеальный инструмент для спекуляций! Да - кому-то не повезет.. Но это будете точно не вы!!!

Пожалуйста, ознакомьтесь с нашим white paper – там детально изложена вся механика проекта!

Потратьте пол часа времени, прочтите white paper и осуществите вашу самую лучшую криптоинвестицию (не все же купили биткойны в 2010, да?) ) в жизни!

Наш сайт https://mmm.finance
https://mmm.finance/whitepaper_ru.pdf - обязательно к прочтению!
Наш телеграм канал https://t.me/mmmfinance
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