Is there concern about the bad associations that can be created by all the links and schemes to use *coins for gambling purposes and sites, not to mention the legal ramifications of those promoting such here who obviously can't have sufficient bank and organization to meet the legal requirements? I thought the rule states that nothing (or not sites?) shady or obviously illegal should be linked to on this site? Is there enforcement?

This is not meant to attack/offend/etc. the casino and gambling companies/fans, but it is true; right now, the US takes online gambling as a very serious violation of the law. Might I suggest creation of another forum elsewhere for that category of activity? I mean, to put it into perspective: a buddy of mine was hired to do the odds testing on slot machines and ensure they met strict regulations as to their function and output ratios; thing is, this required those companies contract with third parties who assessed the operations, and those third parties only were allowed to open the machines. This would be like putting your servers and all the programming under the control of a third party and accessing it only under their supervision, and then the code running only after they checked any changes you made.

And that third party was expensive, and his specialization/degree? Electrical engineering. Every level of government seems to take this sort of thing...very seriously, even despite international losses at the WTO and other organizations for doing so.

[[Edit in light of https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=199130.0, 1. PMing is just to start talking to get familiar, not to negotiate deals. 2. Totally fine with IDing one another before making deals, on video with papers and etc.3. I hate Paypal too.]]

[Edit in light of https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=199130.0, 

1. PMing is just to start talking to get familiar, not to negotiate deals.
2. Totally fine with IDing one another before making deals, on video with papers and etc.
3. I hate Paypal too.]

So I'm wondering how much interest there is in having your miner hosted by someone with covered electricity. I was recently visiting family in Colorado and checked-out available units in the area and found a bunch of which included electricity, and had the idea that I should start finding people who mine *coins who want to go-in together and put some miners onsite at one of them. I would have to sign a lease and drive-out with the miners from here in the Denver metro to there (and I am keeping tight-lipped) but if I get sufficient takers I can do it.

There are catches with which I'm not sure most would be comfortable: e.g.

1. Having to have the miner sent here: we could, however, pool resources and build some to spec hereabouts and then move them, or build them on-site after delivery (Amazon Prime's free shipping for goods from their warehouses isn't good only for nothing).

2. The expenses: I cannot, by myself, cover 3-600/mo. rent + the internet connection (some of these places provide wireless but I would be putting-in an internet connection for myself).

3. The car: I'm actually planning to sell it and buy a newer model because the whole reason I figured all this out was I was visiting and then driving through, but the original motor broke down. It's replaced and things are working great, but I have to be especially carefully driving up the "hills" I do to get there.

4. Gas: it's about $150-200 bucks to drive there.

5. I don't feel comfortable only on promises of payment/mo. simply because I frankly can't afford it. You can see part of my reason (below), but I'm a guy sleeping on a borrowed garage floor after that trip (see 3. above) because the expenditures used before and [unexpectedly during] that trip what was meant to be my rent and deposit were eaten-up; I figure from my glorious little find, however, that I shouldn't forsake trying to take this opportunity.

Reason:

On the flip side, if there are fellow creatives who don't mind taking a little chance on a guy who, frankly, just want to make an honest buck or two working with other people, I would love to hear ideas and suggestions. Basically, I am this kind of guy: I can make hundreds/day carpet cleaning (Certified and everything) but the companies out there--including the very big ones--are just scams. I am not kidding about this: those advertising like $99 or 89 dollar for x rooms + hall "WITH TRUCK MOUNT!" are really paying like $150-300 just to drive-out, so it's a numbers game of who will bite on giant upsells: either way they rush in and out doing what the industry calls "spray and pray" (I got to see a lot of this before becoming one, when I was an install tech for a certain tv company who saw lots of houses on move-in where other techs for various purposes worked away).

I do not want to work with them upselling already-undersold people knowing that if I don't sell more I have to spray-and-pray (not really clean but basically make it look slightly better), and it takes a good 7-10 years building-up a client base to live off of. There's a family business that does decently well in this and I make great money there, but the person in my family running it is also a nightly drunk who has a leftover residual the day after, every day, and it hurts to much to see (and take) because of knowing what it's doing to him. Maybe in a few years when I have built more savings all my own again, but for now I'm leaving off carpet cleaning.

I can do the legwork, moving, rental agreements, etc.: I just want to make a profit of maybe $100-200/mo. + any associated expenses for returns and maintenance of the tech; I do not want to be the one assembling all the machinery, however with documentation on desired procedures and some extra willingness to hire-on more experienced friends of mine to join our little endeavor, I just might. I just want things to be perfect--or as close to possible--so that all works very well for us. I am also already an ISP tech, btw, so modems are not scary and depending on which service we select (I already support several ISPs) I may even be able to be the main support guy for these things, wherever I am.


Other thoughts:

1. Making sure there are back-ups and surge protectors, of course, are advisable. The area is high-altitude (ish). The idea is to ensure everyone can remote into these things as well.

2. Perhaps getting business-class internet would be adviseable such that up-time is guaranteed. Designing the rigs to auto-connect, auto-restart, etc. is also a good idea as I don't want anyone having to stay on-site too much.

3. I could rent more than one place if we have enough involved.

4. Perhaps also installing a cellular modem would be good, and:

5. Connecting that up (and the main modem/connection) to security systems. I don't even mind living in or nearby these places--I am mobile--but I do want to be sure that when I or any assistance (as I have trustworthy people in mind--people so good they'd rather hurt themselves than harm anyone or get ahead) are away, in light or dark (woo hoo IR cameras!), any funny business will be documented in very high resolution and streamed directly to safe locations for retrieval. Fortunately, I had a few months of researching, repairing, and installing security systems for a hotel in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina (and after the company that was doing the install fled the oncoming onslaught and never returned).


Further input away. : )  Interested takers should PM me so we can establish familiarity, set-up transfers and exchange wallet information then confirm when the transfer takes place so we know exactly who sent/contributed what.

I'm interested in BTC for various reasons like many people, and just saying "hello"! : )

I've actually had a very hard time of it for a few years, had cancer just before college, got sick in college, homeless, isolated, indigent...homeless again (and somehow always working). These days I actually sleep on the floor of a garage--haha (it's not THAT bad actually), and my interest is, eventually, to use these sorts of technologies to lift people out of poverty in economies with liquidity traps because fiat won't move when banks are holding tight despite there still plenty of people willing to do work/pay for it.

Since it is a hello, an "About me" is customary where I come from:

I am working to go into business, though stuck behind making a site right now--struggling with working-out the brains and studying just to do that. I work about $6 under the pay of my last job in order to stay mobile (no other option), and can't marry my sweetheart due to circumstances. Actually, we're fretting as she is on a Visa and may have to return home--there are insidious pressures there for women by families (traditionalist society).

Besides the ugly stuff, some worldly folks keep telling me that should I get the time I need to write a book, one once saying he could put my on Oprah in a week with the title I had. (I don't really like Oprah--fans please forgive me.) Lately the active life has been pretty boring, though thought life very ponderous (in other words, busy), so maybe I'll do just that (just not the Oprah part). The original topic had to do with experience with cancer, but now I think I'll extend the book to include how it is you go from nothing to self-sufficient in under a few years despite hardship, and also the inside-out of some large organizations (I've worked for) and some unique perspectives on stuff babbled incessantly about by the chattering classes without really being understood: I just see too much opportunity in so many things left unsaid in all the talking around problems. So the outlook on life is not all grim!