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1  Economy / Digital goods /, on: August 13, 2017, 03:22:55 AM
Selling for .09 btc for .008 btc
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Selling, on: May 25, 2017, 01:38:31 AM
3  Other / Off-topic / God is both good and evil on: March 17, 2017, 11:50:21 PM
Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."

God is both good and evil according to the bible. All evil and good comes from him
4  Other / Politics & Society / Conservatives/Republicans should be banned from America on: March 04, 2017, 04:08:15 AM
Alright, let's see. Conservatives tend to be

1) Religious/Christian and try and make laws that suit their (false and hypocritical) beliefs. Yea gay marriage shouldn't be allowed but divorcing is totally fine? A prime example of a hypocrite

2) Believe that global warming does not exist (Global warming does exist, not just by the hole in the ozone layer, but by obvious things, go take into account the millions of cars, airplanes, coal plants, etc releasing tons of abnormal and excess carbon dioxide, monoxide, etc and tell me that doesn't affect the environment. All that man-made technology has to have an affect on a planet which has never experienced any such thing before)

3) Are usually sexist and tend to not support women's rights such as the right to have an abortion(Abortion is NOT the killing of babies, abortion is basically the taking of stem cells before they form into an actual fetus. If you consider "cells" as being alive, then everyone on planet earth is a murderer because our skin sheds millions of cells everyday)

4) Tend to be more racist than any other political party as proven by the fact that most KKK members and other racial groups identify as conservative

5) Support having low to no restrictions on gun handling and buying. Let's take this into account, in order to drive a car you need a license and rigorous training of the laws of the road, as well as how to actually drive the car. Well, in some states you don't even need to have a gun license to buy a gun or even know how to shoot the gun in order to buy one. Does that make any damn sense when a average gun is far more dangerous and cheaper to buy than a car ? No, therefore I come to believe that anyone who supports the buying of guns without rigorous testing and at least having a license, is heavily retarded or wants to watch the world burn

The only logical conclusion is to get rid of conservatives from america. Like how trump is deporting illegal immigrants, well conservatives go against the constitution itself(such as trying to integrate religious belief with law, etc)
5  Other / Politics & Society / Trump plans to revoke Obama's Clean Water Act on: March 04, 2017, 03:57:50 AM

So Trump wants to get rid of laws governing clean water. What a great president /s. Good Job Republicans
6  Other / Off-topic / Trump plans to revoke Obama's Clean Water Act on: March 04, 2017, 03:53:23 AM

So, trump wants to get rid of clean drinking water. What a great president you all voted for. +1!
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) /,,, on: January 23, 2017, 01:58:21 AM
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) /,, on: January 10, 2017, 07:19:58 PM

for sale
9  Economy / Marketplace / Looking for help on,, and on: January 07, 2017, 03:29:47 AM
Anyone want to help work on,, or, all are premium domain names
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) /,, on: December 12, 2016, 03:14:05 PM

Selling these premium 3, at $40 each. Also taking counter offers, just message me
11  Other / Off-topic / Share funny youtube videos on: November 25, 2016, 07:48:57 AM
Share the funniest youtube videos you have seen so far! is the funniest one I've found haha
12  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Bitcoin Movie on: May 10, 2015, 06:17:37 PM
Anyone else think Bitcoin's history is perfect for a blockbuster movie?

. Satoshi releases bitcoin (Satoshi's face would never be revealed) --2008ish
. We then go into the lives of the first bitcoiners, Gavin Anderson, Hal Finney, etc --2008 to 2009
. Satoshi leaves Bitcoin unexpectedly and we go into a period where the rest of the bitcoiners have to cope with his leaving --2010
. We then follow Gavin Anderson working on Bitcoin and meeting the CIA --2010
. Mark Karpeles and Charlie Shrem are introduced(BitInstant and MtGox) --2010 to 2012
. The plot revolves around these characters trying to uplift Bitcoin and get adoption, such as making the TBF --2012 to 2013
. However, things go awry when Charlie Shrem is charged by the Feds -- 2013
. Bitcoin's current ATH occurs in November 2013 as the price peaks at $1200 per coin, now the movie gets social and we see them celebrating, etc 2013
. MtGox falls under along with Mark Karpeles --2014
. A large amount of companies gain interest in Bitcoin and start accepting it ---2014
. The Bitcoin Foundation falls and Gavin Anderson and other developers go to work for MIT labs --2015
. The movie ends with the Hard Fork for increased blocksize going through and cheers to the revolutionary future of Bitcoin
. The ending credits show the future of Bitcoin, it becomes a standard currency and largely accepted around the world --2020+

That's my thoughts on the first Bitcoin movie. A 2nd one would feature Satoshi Nakamoto's life(face revealed), what led him/them to create bitcoin, the actual creation of Bitcoin, it's release, and the ending would be a cliffhanger on what Satoshi did after leaving in 2010.
13  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Blockchain 101- How does it work on: April 04, 2015, 03:27:27 PM
So basically these two guys have been standing firm in their belief that a blockchain must be transparent to be "valid" or "real". Of course I'm telling them that is illogical and not true at all, because you can obfuscate the sending of coins to make it "private", but alas they're still saying otherwise. So any bitcoin/blockchain experts would like to chime in?

They're also saying that everyone must be able to see everything(In it's transparency so things like coinjoin, ring sigs, or zk snarks somehow automatically make a blockchain "invalid" is what they're saying) to make sure it's valid, of which is obviously not true as miners are the ones that determine the valid and invalid chains(as well as process transactions, etc).

What? What you're describing isn't privacy, so you went from being a supporter of privacy to a now supporter of total transparency? If I were to give you a $20 bill, will you be able to see who previously had that $20 bill? So then why would you not want the same thing for crtypcurrencies?

No, he's saying the only way to know that the cryptocurrency is real and spendable is because of the transparent blockchain that everyone agrees on to confirm the existence (and by extension, value) of it.  

The $20 is not a good analogy because it actually has a central issuing authority.  But if you absolutely had to compare, you could loosely compare the fact that you can hold that $20 bill in your hand and examine it and see that it looks like every other one, and everyone else agrees that it is $20 when they see it, and they accept that it has the value of $20.

Nobody here is advocating the ability to see "who" had it previously.  That would not be anonymous. That would be bitcoin.

Quote from: Joshuar
Cryptocurrencies are supposed to be decentralized and not have to rely on a centralized authority to make decisions or oversee things, you saying that we need an arbiter is taking a step back towards the traditional banking/monetary system, which is what we(everyone or mostly everyone involved with Bitcoin/cryptos) are against.

No argument there.  Again, that is what the transparent blockchain is for.   Non-fakeable agreement by majority, not by a central authority.  

He's making the assumption that a coin's value is somehow tired to it's transparency. Every transaction that happens in the blockchain isn't "agreed" on or overseen by everyone involved with bitcoin, it's a automated process(Which is what protects against forking/exploiting bitcoin besides the 51% attack, etc), so his comment about how a coin must somehow be transparent to have value, is truly illogical. You don't need a transparent blockchain to assign value to coins, it's perfectly done on a private blockchain(even better), because each coin in the eyes of an onlooker, the same as the other(Fungibility) and there's no room to "discriminate" against coins based on their transaction history like in an transparent blockchain. So his case about "invisible" coins and etc has no bearing here, the only situation where the entire blockchain and everything involved with it is totally out from view, or "invisible" is Zerocash, the points that he's made so far has no bearing against the Cryptonote/Ring Sig anon scheme.
That's because it is!  If a "blockchain" is not transparent, you cannot even call it a blockchain.  Additionally, if there is no mining power confirming its blocks, then it is also not a real block chain (that's also why all Proof of Stake coins have no real value because there is no mining going on so the "public" ledger is completely fakeable/centralzed/manipulated/stolen/etc).  
So not only does a coin need a transparent blockchain, it also needs decentralized processing power (read $$$ of equipment) to keep it going.

I don't blame you for having flawed understanding of what a blockchain really is. There is currently a widespread anti-bitcoin campaign that innundates us with the words "blockchain technology is the big takeaway from bitcoin" and preaches an ambiguous future with no mining, i.e. centralized ledgers...*sigh*

Quote from: Joshuar
Every transaction that happens in the blockchain isn't "agreed" on or overseen by everyone involved with bitcoin,
Um, actually it is.  You may need to go do a refresher course on bitcoin. That's called "consensus." Everyone DOES see the transactions, which are confirmed and reconfirmed continually by the miners with the most computing power on Earth, which are not fakeable or exploitable. Transparency is a necessary part of the equation.  

Nobody will use something they cannot prove exists. Did you ever stop to think that you might be the one who is being a bit illogical here? That is like, the whole point of Bitcoin. You're completely missing the poetic beauty of Satoshi's design which creates value through decentralized trust and provability.

Tok's point still stands.

1) Frankly you're both not making any sense. The blockchain isn't required to be transparent to be a blockchain. Where are you getting these misconceptions from? Even gmaxwell corrected Toknormal on his sore misunderstanding of cryptography. The only thing that matters is mining, so exactly what are you talking about?

2) Again, you're not making sense. Miners determine which chain is real and which chain is invalid, no one exactly what does being transparent have to do with any of it? Miners also process the transactions in case you didn't know. All of toknormal's points and yours has been invalid/wrong or contradictory(You/he doesn't seem to know how the blockchain actually works).

3) "decentralized processing power"...You're joking right? Everyone does see the transactions? Ok, exactly what does that have to do at all with my posts about a private blockchain? With a private/obscured blockchain you still see everything, but you can't make out what's going on because everything is obscured...

Here, I'll even take it up in the main bitcoin thread to show you just how wrong you are...this is basic crypto101.
14  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Using the blockchain to create/power sentient robotic life on: April 01, 2015, 11:05:40 PM
I know this may sound a bit, well "crazy" to some. But basically Bitcoin is decentralized, the human body in a way of sorts, is also decentralized. The brain itself may be compared to mining pools where they allow things to happen according to consensus, so such a system would have to be similar to mining(Maybe not as secure nor "decentralized"-solo mining, and it would need to be in a "loop" or functioning on it's own without need for a external source(mining?), or not, maybe this "external source" would be similar to a biological organism needing food and water to "live").

Has anyone else thought of this, using Bitcoin's blockchain to create a sort of sentient artificial intelligence/body? I'm not talking about a highly advanced robot like in The Terminator/Matrix movies or anything, just something simple or comparable to maybe a small multi celled organism like a rodent.

Maybe the brain could use one, central blockchain, and the other major organs or what ought to represent them, use other lesser blockchains that relay information back and forth, things like colored coins could come into play representing various cells found throughout biological bodies like red/white blood cells etc, mining could rely information back and forth or a process similar. Instead of relaying transactions and inputs/outputs or what forms "coins", maybe a substitute for information such as "thoughts", "emotions"(more specifically the hormones that are responsible for such emotions) could be transacted back and forth instead, there would need to be physical hardware built such as heat sensors, touch, etc for "thoughts" or reactions based upon the "senses" even become feasible, and there'd need to be a way to store memories similar to the cerebrum, hippocampus and other areas responsible for memory in the brain.  Aargh, but that's just the little that I could come up with for the moment.

EDIT: The above talks about hardware based AGI(Artifical General Intelligence), most of that could probably be cut for a software based AGI.
15  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Bitcoin's golden moment on: March 04, 2015, 10:58:41 PM
"On March 1, 2015, Grayscale Investments (the sponsor of the BIT) announced that it has received regulatory approval from FINRA for the fund to trade publicly on an electronic platform operated by the OTC Markets Group.

This announcement ensures that the BIT will be the first publicly traded bitcoin investment fund and could pave the way for more stability in the price of bitcoin. It is also possible that a publicly traded fund like the BIT could have the same effect on the price of bitcoin as the SPDR Gold ETF had on the spot price of gold."


This is big news, hello people?  Grin
16  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Bitcoin is too complex for the average person on: February 23, 2015, 11:56:33 PM
Anyone ever got the feeling that Bitcoin is too complex for the average person? The average person wants things as simple as possible, so when the word, Blockchain, Decentralization, etc, come into play, I feel that makes it too complicated for the average person to understand or even care.
17  Other / Off-topic / Crotch Cam - It's not just us guys! on: August 18, 2014, 08:18:13 PM
So basically I saw this youtube video, and LOL!!!!!!

A guy puts a very very small camera to record women staring at the bulge in his pants...

So what does that say? It says that guys aren't the only ones that stare at women's (insert here), women also do the same thing, just discreetly.

18  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Ecuador: The First Country to make it's own CrytoCurrency on: August 08, 2014, 04:19:25 AM
"Ecuador is developing its own electronic tender as digital currencies led by bitcoin have gained acceptance as a means of payment that have been promoted as a replacement for traditional money. Unlike Ecuador’s plan, most virtual currencies were developed as an alternative to government-backed tender."

Looks like Ecuador is going to be the first country to make it's own cryptocurrency. Thoughts?


19  Other / Off-topic / Lets talk about how hot Spanish/Latin girls are. [NSFW] on: July 30, 2014, 12:34:15 AM
Basically, a "2nd" version of the "Lets talk about how hot asian girls are", but this time, its about Spanish/Latin Women!
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Vertcoin's VertVerser and Stealth Addresses on: July 19, 2014, 11:38:33 PM
VertVerser: A way to pay with Vertcoin anywhere Bitcoin is accepted. VertVerser (Vert = Green, Verser = To Pay) is currently in Alpha Status with limitations on the amount that can be sent, however all appears to be running smoothly. The service can be accessed at where you can “enter the address you are sending funds to (VTC or BTC) and the amount you wish to send. You will be given an address to send the funds to”. The idea which was first implemented by the Vericoin team effectively allows the use of Vertcoin to access thousands of good and services. This is an overnight change that could easily be overlooked but actually makes the currency a great deal more useful and usefulness is all that matters in the long term scheme of things.

Stealth Addresses: A person sending a payment to a stealth address will not be able to view what other payments have been made to the stealth address whilst users who have nothing to do with the transaction would not be able to view any details.
The stealth addresses feature on the latest Vertcoin wallet
Only a day after the release of stealth address, Vertcoin developer a432511 announced VertVerser; A way to pay with Vertcoin anywhere Bitcoin is accepted. VertVerser (Vert = Green, Verser = To Pay) is currently in Alpha Status with limitations on the amount that can be sent, however all appears to be running smoothly. The service can be accessed at where you can “enter the address you are sending funds to (VTC or BTC) and the amount you wish to send. You will be given an address to send the funds to”. The idea which was first implemented by the Vericoin team effectively allows the use of Vertcoin to access thousands of good and services. This is an overnight change that could easily be overlooked but actually makes the currency a great deal more useful and usefulness is all that matters in the long term

Vertcoin's VertVerser, at, allows anyone with Vertcoin to buy anywhere Bitcoin is accepted.

Vertcoin's Stealth Addresses give Vertcoin, the anonymity, than many other coins lack and is a great added, privacy function.
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