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1  Economy / Reputation / [OFFICIAL] P2PB2B - resolving misunderstandings on: November 28, 2019, 03:44:39 PM
We create this topic for analyzing each complaint individually. To ultimately resolve all current misunderstandings and false "scam alert".  I wanted to deal with each punkt and eliminate the negative impact. If I missed something - please complete me.

P2PB2B Signature campaign: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5203715.0

P2PB2B Announce: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088392.msg48823121#msg48823121

P2PB2B official account - p2pb2b.io:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2509426

P2PB2B bounty account - P2PB2B Bounty Manager: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2719262




1.  JollyGood started this topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5192497.0
2.  JollyGood  - minus trust: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088392.msg51834549#msg51834549
1 fact:
In this list more than 20 exchanges that have a similar volume: https://coinmarketcap.com/rankings/exchanges/

2 fact:
Here P2PB2B provide 1-4 non fee accounts for Market making program. This allows to do more trading volumes: https://listing.p2pb2b.io/?_ga=2.149711985.692397089.1575240258-1493963687.1575240258

3 fact:
Some of P2PB2B clients have special conditions that motivate them to trade and make various kinds of transfers using P2PB2B exchange, but unfortunately the legal department points on the NDA.

4 fact:
All accusations in these two topics have no evidence or facts, only words.



3. Minus trust from logfiles and Pamoldar for konungbarber  topic: http://archive.is/DjmMe
4. konungbarber started this topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166605.0

This person wrote that the problem has been solved.  But if he has problems, we can contact the user through his personal email and we will make every effort to solve it.  After unlocking the user account, there were no more messages, so we can assume that the problem is solved. Also we wrote anser earler in this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166605.msg51959750#msg51959750
In any case we wrote him:



5. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5172443.0 - minus trust from Royse777. Started by dopey
6. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5163367.0 - minus trust from dopey. Started by dopey

As Mr. Dopey mentioned in the topic-starting post, the withdrawal request was freezed due to divergence between the withdrawal amount and our financial records.  P2PB2B Security Service has initiated an investigation on this matter - unfortunately, we found that amount of THC, which was sold to this user was acquired in a non-legal way by the seller. Therefore, we rolled back the first deal of Mr. Dopey and all other deals.  The assets, which Mr. Dopey spent during these deals were fully returned to the main balance and already withdrawal.

We deeply regret that this incident occurred and acknowledge the difficulties that have been caused. In any case - this person received his money back





7. Joe Public started this topic:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5190513.0

At first, he should write to the p2pb2b.io support service. Then we can solve his problem.
Before considering this allert relevant, let him provide at least some proofs.



8. DENDOGODNED started this topic:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5160442.0

Even considering the fact that this is his mistake, we can help him. If this person will provide his registration mailbox for support services, we can help him with returning. I would like to quote the words of one smart user. It's hard to add something here




9. vejonkaren started this topics:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166081.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166049.0

He send 50 sem (minimum deposit) but there was still a commission of 0.005 sem. He make mistake and didn't count commission. And it's turned out that he make deposit with the amount that less than the minimum deposit and coins didn’t enter his account.
And after 32 hours we returned him 50 sem.

This user get back moneys - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166049.msg51946092#msg51946092





10. vejonkaren started this topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5169364.0
  
This accusation is based only on his assumption

This Russian-speaking person is a terrible boor, we will post screenshots of how he interacted with the support service. It is impossible to speak adequately with him.If you're interested, here is the translate:




11.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5202319.msg53106551#msg53106551

 He did not indicate any proofs of what had happened. Similar issues are resolved through the support service.
This topic posted from hacked account, more over - with negative trust:





12. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5209604.0

At early stages both exchanges were developed by one team - so the initial conception and solutions maybe quite similar. But it was long ago. Now platforms are separate, P2PB2B is absolutely independent projects.

Estonia is transparent and stable EU jurisdictions with cryptocurrency regulation. And it is good choice for cryptocurrency exchanges.
More over, companies have different directors, here you can see for yourself:

https://coinsbit.io/
https://www.teatmik.ee/en/personlegal/14828702-ITEcosystem-O%C3%9C

https://p2pb2b.io/
https://www.teatmik.ee/en/personlegal/14572266-Partida-Services-O%C3%9C




13. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5209604.msg53669195#msg53669195

There is absolutely nothing strange here, because the company is registered in Estonia as PARTIDA SERVICES OÜ, accordingly, the e-mail adress shown on www.e-krediidiinfo.ee derived from the registered name PARTIDA SERVICES OÜ.

On the official website p2pb2b.io of the P2PB2B company, you can find the email address in accordance with the domain p2pb2b.io.





14. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5209604.msg53700251#msg53700251

I see you are trying to BS your way out of your lies again - please do so in this thread so that you can't lock it again when hard proof is provided.
This thread was created specifically to handle your censorship of the truth.
If you were careful, you would notice that we paused thread for winter holydays. And we wrote that we will continue after that holidays. And we returned, as promised. In the end, you can always come back here.
For now I recommend to write here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5205331.msg53204675#msg53204675
Absolutely despicable conduct from  the representative of p2pb2b scammers Roll Eyes
I am so happy other exchanges operated by Ukrainian scammer Valerii Solodovnyk are being exposed too: https://twitter.com/AngryBeur/status/1191416253564571650
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First of all, there are no official investigations, accusations, charges towards P2PB2B company.
Of course, we understand that we can't avoid not satisfied users.

Very few claims are because of flaws of the platform - yes, the platform is not perfect. That is why many specialists each day improve and maintain it.
But most of the incidents reported here are because of factors the platform is not responsible for. It is the nature of crypto business (and in nature of transactions/holding in the sphere of crypto) that each mistake or negligence of user may cost. And it is human nature to blame others for things that go wrong.

We appreciate feedbacks including negative because they help us to improve (and, besides, to be compliant, as we are regulated and supervised). But we can't ignore the fact that we regularly face extortionist offering to cease public attacks on our reputation for a certain reward. And shouldn't we look interconnection between the above-mentioned offers with posts of some anonymous authors here?

How could a prudent person take seriously scam accusation based on the fact that initially the platforms p2pb2b and Coinsbit were partially developed by the same specialists? Is it serious?
Changpeng Zhao served as chief technology officer of OKCoin. In 2017, Zhao left OKCoin to start a cryptocurrency exchange called Binance. There were and there are numerous unsatisfied clients both of OKCoin and Binance. So these projects are Scam?
Have the anonymous "investigators" ever heard of moving specialists to other projects? Have they ever heard of selling the business, software, technologies? All these events are the "proofs of fraud" or normal things that happen from time to time?




PS:

vejonkaren -  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=11725
It looks like an account that is bought or hacked:

Date Registered: May 08, 2011
Password changed: August 15, 2018 https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=vejonkaren
Date first post: August 15, 2018




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