http://marinea.org/mag/2016NovemberIssue.pdf

Libertarians need to face reality. They are trying to save people from a world that they are
actually fine with. Sure some people may complain about how their government works on one
or two issues or hope that their candidate of choice will be the one that will fix those minor
problems that they see with things today. But libertarians who actually “get it” see the
possibilities that come from a better future where governments aren’t running every little part
of our lives. Today’s governments are “good enough” for most people. This message is not for
them. They can still live in their system and be perfectly content with tinkering around the
edges and believing that they may have some minor impact upon how things move forward.

To change the minds of the masses is a futile struggle as the effort required to awaken one
person is significant and doesn’t scale to all.

This message is for those of us that understand that taxation is theft, that roads will not
suddenly disappear without government, that wars are not fought to defend our “freedoms”,
and that the idea that “if you aren’t doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about”
when taking away our privacy is not even close to being an excuse. This message goes to
those that understand that government is force, our fiat currency is manipulated to favor those
in power, that centralization of power only leads to the centralization of corruption, that the
current system is broken and that liberty is but a footnote in the thoughts of anyone with any
control.

Most libertarians spend their lives working hard to help bring liberty to those that don’t want
liberty. At least their actions demonstrate that it is not very important to them. The fact that the
“land of the free” is deciding between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump should be proof
enough to anyone that liberty has been phased out and may be something talked about in
fairy tales one day if allowed to do so by our future governments. Our time wasted trying to
help others could have been spent enhancing and improving liberty in our own lives yet we
fought tirelessly, we sacrificed, we put in countless hours hoping that we could make a
difference in our communities. It is time we focus on ourselves and actually work toward our
own freedom now instead of hoping for some future far off reality that those around us likely
don’t even want or are actively working against. It is time to be free.

What we are proposing will not be easy. It will not be immediate and there will be a learning
process, but it is something we can do together and it is something that is actually possible
with accomplishments at every step of the way. But hopefully in the end we can enjoy the
liberty that we seek.

The Marinea project is a project of liberty, and it is a step towards the eventual goal of liberty
for all. What we propose is leaving behind those that are perfectly content with big
government. Shrugging off the harsh reality that every bit of land on Earth is controlled by a
government that is slowly moving toward more and more centralized corruption. If they control
all of the land, we will move to the 70% of the world that is not controlled by any government.

Like so many sailors, boaters and water lovers who have done so before, we will move to the
sea and build our new world there.

The end goal for the Marinea project is a large floating community in a wave protected
sanctuary in a temperate climate with open trade and cooperation with all, thriving as
progress allows us to move forward instead of getting dragged down by those that would
rather admit to failure before even trying.

While our end goal is very broad, the ultimate results lie in those that are actually involved in
making it happen. Everyone will play their part and have their efforts bear fruit toward liberty
as opposed to being wasted on people that would hope that we would all just go into the
ocean and never return.

Our initial proposal is to make something happen now. We are not just about talk; we want to
get on the sea now and have verifiable immediate results.

Our research has given us an initial
structure to begin our R&D and get our feet wet by having a small community of 30 to 50
people living on a floating structure that has living quarters, offices, restaurants, retail, utilities
and the basics of starting off on our journey toward learning what life will be like for this new
venture. We will also be taking baby steps when it comes to the most obvious question
everyone has – “what about the huge waves?!?” Our initial location will likely be in a well
protected area of the Caribbean in around 10 feet of water surrounded by uninhabited islands
with an average yearly wave height of 2 feet. This does mean that we will still be under the
limited laws of a country with no income taxes and very few laws. But it will be a step in
the right direction as we learn and grow as a community to reach our end goal.

From there, we will learn our lessons, and this paper will be re-written by those with the
knowledge to determine the next steps, whether it is a giant leap to our community in
international waters or a larger platform or many small platforms, it is not our place to decide
that right here and now. The most important thing to do is to point in the right direction and
take that first step.

The initial structure will require funds of $15 million to have it ready for initial Mariners to live
on. While we are currently working on large investors, donors or promoters, we would rather it
be a community effort with funds coming from many activists and supporters who want to get
involved and be part of moving liberty forward right now.

As such, we have set up a way for
individuals to become a member for a minimum of $100 for the purchase of one SeaNote.
Every SeaNote gives you access to our updates, monthly magazine, discounts for any future
visit to Marinea on things such as hotel rooms, restaurants, products, etc. as well as being
able to trade that SeaNote in for citizenship once we have established our future community.

We will only be making 150,000 SeaNotes available and will be setting up an exchange to
trade your SeaNotes on the open market on a decentralized crypto-token market.

Whatever the outcome of our funding drive, we are dedicated and hope you join us in moving
forward toward actually making something happen and taking steps toward liberty that we can
all follow. Our energies need be no longer wasted on those that do not care nor deserve any
more of our productivity. It is time to focus on bringing liberty to each other so that we may all
thrive and move forward together and leave those that do not share our vision to their own
paths in life.

You can join us in this journey to freedom at http://marinea.org/join/

http://marinea.org/mag/2016NovemberIssue.pdf

Libertarians need to face reality. They are trying to save people from a world that they are
actually fine with. Sure some people may complain about how their government works on one
or two issues or hope that their candidate of choice will be the one that will fix those minor
problems that they see with things today. But libertarians who actually “get it” see the
possibilities that come from a better future where governments aren’t running every little part
of our lives. Today’s governments are “good enough” for most people. This message is not for
them. They can still live in their system and be perfectly content with tinkering around the
edges and believing that they may have some minor impact upon how things move forward.

To change the minds of the masses is a futile struggle as the effort required to awaken one
person is significant and doesn’t scale to all.

This message is for those of us that understand that taxation is theft, that roads will not
suddenly disappear without government, that wars are not fought to defend our “freedoms”,
and that the idea that “if you aren’t doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about”
when taking away our privacy is not even close to being an excuse. This message goes to
those that understand that government is force, our fiat currency is manipulated to favor those
in power, that centralization of power only leads to the centralization of corruption, that the
current system is broken and that liberty is but a footnote in the thoughts of anyone with any
control.

Most libertarians spend their lives working hard to help bring liberty to those that don’t want
liberty. At least their actions demonstrate that it is not very important to them. The fact that the
“land of the free” is deciding between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump should be proof
enough to anyone that liberty has been phased out and may be something talked about in
fairy tales one day if allowed to do so by our future governments. Our time wasted trying to
help others could have been spent enhancing and improving liberty in our own lives yet we
fought tirelessly, we sacrificed, we put in countless hours hoping that we could make a
difference in our communities. It is time we focus on ourselves and actually work toward our
own freedom now instead of hoping for some future far off reality that those around us likely
don’t even want or are actively working against. It is time to be free.

What we are proposing will not be easy. It will not be immediate and there will be a learning
process, but it is something we can do together and it is something that is actually possible
with accomplishments at every step of the way. But hopefully in the end we can enjoy the
liberty that we seek.

The Marinea project is a project of liberty, and it is a step towards the eventual goal of liberty
for all. What we propose is leaving behind those that are perfectly content with big
government. Shrugging off the harsh reality that every bit of land on Earth is controlled by a
government that is slowly moving toward more and more centralized corruption. If they control
all of the land, we will move to the 70% of the world that is not controlled by any government.

Like so many sailors, boaters and water lovers who have done so before, we will move to the
sea and build our new world there.

The end goal for the Marinea project is a large floating community in a wave protected
sanctuary in a temperate climate with open trade and cooperation with all, thriving as
progress allows us to move forward instead of getting dragged down by those that would
rather admit to failure before even trying.

While our end goal is very broad, the ultimate results lie in those that are actually involved in
making it happen. Everyone will play their part and have their efforts bear fruit toward liberty
as opposed to being wasted on people that would hope that we would all just go into the
ocean and never return.

Our initial proposal is to make something happen now. We are not just about talk; we want to
get on the sea now and have verifiable immediate results.

Our research has given us an initial
structure to begin our R&D and get our feet wet by having a small community of 30 to 50
people living on a floating structure that has living quarters, offices, restaurants, retail, utilities
and the basics of starting off on our journey toward learning what life will be like for this new
venture. We will also be taking baby steps when it comes to the most obvious question
everyone has – “what about the huge waves?!?” Our initial location will likely be in a well
protected area of the Caribbean in around 10 feet of water surrounded by uninhabited islands
with an average yearly wave height of 2 feet. This does mean that we will still be under the
limited laws of a country with no income taxes and very few laws. But it will be a step in
the right direction as we learn and grow as a community to reach our end goal.

From there, we will learn our lessons, and this paper will be re-written by those with the
knowledge to determine the next steps, whether it is a giant leap to our community in
international waters or a larger platform or many small platforms, it is not our place to decide
that right here and now. The most important thing to do is to point in the right direction and
take that first step.

The initial structure will require funds of $15 million to have it ready for initial Mariners to live
on. While we are currently working on large investors, donors or promoters, we would rather it
be a community effort with funds coming from many activists and supporters who want to get
involved and be part of moving liberty forward right now.

As such, we have set up a way for
individuals to become a member for a minimum of $100 for the purchase of one SeaNote.
Every SeaNote gives you access to our updates, monthly magazine, discounts for any future
visit to Marinea on things such as hotel rooms, restaurants, products, etc. as well as being
able to trade that SeaNote in for citizenship once we have established our future community.

We will only be making 150,000 SeaNotes available and will be setting up an exchange to
trade your SeaNotes on the open market on a decentralized crypto-token market.

Whatever the outcome of our funding drive, we are dedicated and hope you join us in moving
forward toward actually making something happen and taking steps toward liberty that we can
all follow. Our energies need be no longer wasted on those that do not care nor deserve any
more of our productivity. It is time to focus on bringing liberty to each other so that we may all
thrive and move forward together and leave those that do not share our vision to their own
paths in life.

You can join us in this journey to freedom at http://marinea.org/join/

Looks like merchants can easily accept Bitcoin if they have an Ingenico POS terminal and a BitPay account. Have any merchants done this?

https://bitpay.com/integrations/ingenico

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I see this often "banks should start working with Bitcoin users since that's where things are headed, why not cooperate?".

If you think your bank is going to keep your bitcoins in some account then you can use your debit card to convert to dollars at the point of sale then you don't really understand the main revenue of banks.

Banks hold your dollars in their bank accounts. They then turn around and leverage your dollars in their account by 10 times to issue loans to people where they get their main revenue.

If people are holding their funds in bitcoins and only using banks as a transaction medium the bank is not making much money.

Don't expect banks to embrace Bitcoin. The reason they're all creating their own "blockchains" is so they can make it so that they can hold your funds and leverage it.

Every central bank warning about Bitcoin is another central bank realizing that they are going to lose if people start using Bitcoin.

Seastead company, Marinea, is planning on using bitcoin as its initial currency.

http://blog.marinea.org/?p=114#more-114

I'm working on a simple Bitcoin price ticker. I know there are several but this one will serve a specific purpose. What sites do you use and what parts of the site interest you the most?

I personally usually open bitcoinity.org and like that the price shows up in the tab. I also like checking the past 24 hour chart when I wake up to see what the price was up to while I was asleep. The high, low and percentage change for the day is also interesting to see.

I have been mulling something over and would like to get some input.

I would like to make a serverless webpage using the blockchain + bittorrent.

Let's assume I have a web site with an HTML, some css and a few images compressed into a .zip file of 1Mb.

I then create a .torrent of that zip file, which includes a hash of the file's parts, and start seeding the file. Assume the .torrent file is 200 bytes in size.

I then create a Bitcoin transaction from address 1WEBaj42k2j23lk23nk23jlk2n1kj to any address.

I pay the transaction fee and include an OP_RETURN with 80 bytes from the .torrent with a preceding number like 1/3.
Then I send another transaction from the same address with another 80 bytes with a preceeding number 2/3, etc.

So now there is a series of OP_RETURNs from address 1WEBaj42k2j23lk23nk23jlk2n1kj that can be referenced from any Bitcoin node that tracks OP_RETURNs.

Now I create a browser extension that accepts btctp:/1WEBaj42k2j23lk23nk23jlk2n1kj as an input which then goes to that address and gets its last series of OP_RETURNs.

It puts together the .torrent file and connects as a bittorrent client to download the .zip file. The extension then extracts the contents of the .zip file and displays the web page.

This would prevent DDoS attacks. It would prevent hacks of your server. It would allow people behind censoring firewalls like China to get information and allow anyone to post simple content without the need for a hosting service.

And you are paying the miners in transaction fees. You pay the miners for larger .torrents so they are compensated and you pay for any updates you make, all via transaction fees.

Thoughts?

I used to pay for my Skype with credits I bought from gyft.com but it doesn't look like they offer it anymore. Any other places to get Skype credit for Bitcoin?

So I found a local food store that I can buy all of my food online and have it delivered for 1.50. I've been trying some different ways of paying for food with bitcoins and this looks like the best way to go. Unfortunately they only take credit card or PayPal as payment.

I know of a few services that will send money to your PayPal account in exchange for bitcoins but when I go to pay at the food site it asks me to log into my PayPal account to pay. Unfortunately it does not just provide a PayPal address.

In theory I can just exchange my bitcoins for PayPal and pay for my food that way but that seems like a roundabout way of doing things and my ultimate goal is to drop all of my bank accounts (does PayPal allow you to have an account with no bank account?).

Is there a more direct solution?

Before the Dallas shooting I saw a Facebook post about how 2 weeks before the shooting there was a craigslist post in Dallas looking for "Crisis Actors".

I figured it was just a coincidence so I did a search on craislist for any other searches for Crisis Actors and saw one posted in Miami dated 16 days ago.

Here is the post:
https://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/cwg/5674249249.html

We are a government contractor with 15 years of experience working with county, state, and federal agencies to ensure the safety of civilians by conducting simulated crisis events. Crisis scenarios may include, but are not limited to situations involving:

- Natural disasters (tornadoes, floods, hurricanes, etc.)
- Terror Scenarios (militias, extremists, etc.)
- Biological/Chemical warfare attacks

We are looking for people with experience with acting in theater or commercials. Film actors are also encouraged to apply for the position. You will be working alongside actually government officials to help train them in case of the event of emergency situations. Send an email with your resumé and modeling or acting portfolio to the above address.
do NOT contact me with unsolicited services or offers

Last night there was another bar shooting just a few hours from Miami like the one in Orlando.

Could be just another coincidence but I'll be keeping an eye on such ads anyway (https://grandforks.craigslist.org/tlg/5676898612.html) and the events that happen soon thereafter.

Yes I do realize that any idiot can just post a craigslist ad and if something just happens to happen nearby they can point to it as proof. That is why I tend to require evidence instead of just coincidences.

I see two options for ethereums one is cheaper and is almost the same code except for code added by Ethereum's king to save his investment. Should I buy the cheaper version of the same thing or the more expensive?

I just saw that you can buy your food from Rewe online. Has anybody ever tried this?

Also, I saw that there was a website in Europe where you can put in the website address of what you wanted to buy. I forgot what that was, I'm wondering if I can use this site to buy food from Rewe with bitcoins. Definitely worth the try.

This site has become a non-stop barrage of signature campaigners. I know we can turn off the signatures but I keep them on just to see if the person who posted is just an idiot or they are a signature campaigner just posting to get their numbers up.

Never once have I clicked on any of the links. I literally held off from getting a debit card from one of the sites because they had a signature campaign so I figured it was likely a scam.

Have you ever clicked on someone's signature advertisement on here?

*prepares for a barrage of signature campaigners posting pointless crap in this thread*

What if there was an app type of game where instead of just getting points for going places and killing monsters, you go to places to kill monsters and get bitcoins?

But the "monsters" and locations would be different based upon your demographic/interests. And people could incentivize a certain type of person to go to certain locations.

The app could also access your personal information such as age, gender, hobbies, finances, etc.

Imagine you're a Jeep dealership and you're having a huge Jeep sale. You drop some bitcoins right smack dab in middle of your dealership and let the app summon 20-40 year olds that are into outdoors/Jeeps.

Or a nightclub instead of ladies night putting some bitcoins inside the club to attract 21-25 y/o females. Even some rich guy could drop some near him to get the ladies to come over.

A strip club that puts some bitcoins attracting males with good finances to come in.

There could be some sort of beacon that draws people toward the place which might be brighter for more bitcoins, beep faster as you get closer. Maybe have it take a little while to "mine" the bitcoins in the location so you're apt to stick around a bit (and do some shopping/browsing).

Two former 2 term Republican governors re-elected in Democrat states.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_viability
"As the word is used in United States constitutional law since Roe v. Wade, viability is the potential of the fetus to survive outside the uterus after birth, natural or induced, when supported by up-to-date medicine."


If the pro-life movement cared enough about the issue they would donate toward scientific research that would allow for babies to be "born" as early as possible. Possibly even upon conception.

This way the whole "my body my choice" thing goes out the window. And pro-life supporters can end abortions.

The adoption agencies can fund the medical equipment needed to bring the baby to full term and the new parents can pay for their newborn.

I just found out that you can buy food (meat,fruit,vegetables) on amazon.de. I know there are many ways to make a purchase on amazon.com with bitcoins but amazon.de will not accept amazon.com gift cards. I also saw that Coinimal (which used to offer purchasing on Amazon) is now CoinPanda and I don't see anything about Amazon purchases on their new site.

I'm living almost entirely on bitcoins and food would be one of the final things for me to stop using fiat.

I predict that on the day of the halving in 2020 the bitcoin price will be $1666.



Edit: Locked due to signature spammers.

Minimalism + Bitcoin = happiness

I have been living this lifestyle for about 4 years. Everything I own can fit in a carry-on and a backpack (other than a box of childhood stuff at my mother's house). My expenses are about 10% of my monthly income having downsized to a small 35 sqm apartment. I bought a cheap/reliable car, paid in cash (my criteria was something that would last 2 years, good gas mileage and I wouldn't mind walking away from).

By doing this I can focus on the things in life that truly make me happy, last year I traveled to one new country a month. I don't worry about money like I used to. I will probably be able to quit my job in the next few years and do something I enjoy instead of just working for the money. And it has allowed me to accumulate bitcoins. Continuing this lifestyle will allow me to see the world and be independent/free instead of having to spend my life protecting my stuff.

Bitcoin does a lot to help with this lifestyle as I would not be able to be as mobile with gold, moving place to place carrying large amounts of gold across borders while I can carry my private key easily anywhere. I can always find a localbitcoins seller in whatever country I go to to get local currency.


The Less You Own, The More You Have (TED talk)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyKmpyYy14k

[Within the draft, we see articles on virtual properties and data information, classifying them as new type of civil right objects, this means that virtual properties and data shall officially become people’s rights.]

With the publication of the Civil Code General Provisions Draft, virtual properties and data have officially become Chinese people’s rights, what this means is that cryptocurrencies e.g. Bitcoin, virtual currencies e.g. online gaming tokens and data information, e.g. Big Data, shall all be officially recognized as Civil Right Objects. Yesterday(June 27th ), the 21st session of the 12th National People’s Congress Standing Committee(China’s Congress or/and Senate) was held in Beijing. The session reviewed, for the first time, the illustration on the PRC Civil Code General Provisions(Draft) Proposal, which was brought to the floor by the Chairman Meeting of the NPC Standing Committee. Within the draft, we see articles on virtual properties and data information, classifying them as new type of civil right objects, this means that virtual properties and data shall officially become people’s rights.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4q8eu9/chinese_civil_code_general_provisions_draft/