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1  Economy / Lending / 20 BTC LOAN, 30 day you name the rate. on: January 16, 2013, 01:12:32 AM
I would never ask for this loan unless I had the absolute need for it and could back up the payment.

With the recent event of me getting rehired and with a 10btc that I was going to pay back with ith my income tax I would rather pay that off now then when it is due in 2 weeks to and be able to use the other 10 for personal needs.

My previous loan is 10btc and that is the only loan I currently have out.

I have no problem giving whatever information is needed. Thank you please contact me for further details.

thanks gabbergabe

2  Economy / Economics / greece and the TEM currency/barter on: January 14, 2013, 08:54:17 AM
take a look at this, maybe bitcoin could help out?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsD1I9bOgEs
3  Other / Off-topic / Coast to Coast AM With your Host George Noory! on: January 12, 2013, 09:35:30 AM
Alright guys so Im a Huge fan of the late night chatter where the topics can reach extreme ends of the spectrum. There are so manny great topics though, No o0ther radio station talks about aliens,NWO, conspiracy theories, politics, war, after life, apocalypse type shit.

I mean this is the type of radio show that you could picture a guy cleaning his rifle near a black board covered with conspiracy theorist contraband  such as maps, photos, pin/tacks and red string that links certain information for crucial planning. Maybe dates and times.

Anyways Im currently listning and the topic is how there is an attack on our right to bare arms ect. And I gotta say not all there stuff is novelty but alot of truth. Alex jones just not so damn extreme.


But I wanna know who else likes to tune in, and also what you like to do while you listen? Its a real late night talk show thats usally syndicated by major radio networks. I know its all over the USA on the radio. or most of it anyways. I also kno you can listen on line too but never have to .

I like to get a nice cold diet coke, a puff or two of the meds, and a little Combat Arms while i listen.


so do your self a favor check it out. Bitcoin is something that will or eventually be a maintopic on this show and when it does  it may be one of the most important public service announcments for bitcoin. Maybe on the same level for what gawker did for silkroad.
4  Economy / Services / Music for any application Websites, youtube videos, adds, ect on: January 10, 2013, 08:47:51 AM
Im gonna throw this out there but If your interested

Id like to do some work for you free at first and of your happy with the work then we can go from there, If not the first ones on me! I enjoy ]music so its a win/win. But Im hoping to attract those who are willing to support me and do business at some point! Grin

To be honest Id like to just start making Small ouscores for either commercials or ads, websties, movies, anything that require the use of music where you cannot settle for paying royalties, infringemenit, or just poor quality in purchasing music from an online library or what I like to call the crap mill. Because all they do is turn out crap as fast as they can to sell it as fast as they can.

I how ever love making music in all formats whether it just me and my personal project, a personal song or remix for a friend, or music of someones project.

So the offer is Ill do your first song/ score for free and after that  something that fits the quality and relationship as far as what the you pay for the next song/score.

You can check my music at soundcloud.com/killvisionseattle

But I wan you to listen to the production of the music not the genre, The genre I prefer is highley technical and this is my advantage because im able to do other genres or scores quite easy.

So what ever the genre,style, or layout you want I will work with you and together we will create the sound that is needed to complete your dream or vision.



gabbergabe Smiley
5  Other / Off-topic / Washington Residents(or the curios)Moonshine,Intiative 1183 on: January 10, 2013, 08:32:06 AM
I was watching an episode of "Moonshiners" and just for shits and giggles I looked up our la ws here and to see if we had any story's of legend moonshiners or if we had history at all. And came across this article that led to so many questions as a Washingtonian being answered as well as the moonshine questions I was seeking very good article. It has an point interpretation on the law and how its effective our state and what lies ahead.

As a Washingtonian do yourself and your fellow neighbor a favor by sharing some of this information, Im not really talking about the initiative but more on the history.

The article below

July 24, 2012
Distill my heart, legal moonshine is back
Good news about drinking locally.

By Knute Berger

When I was an editor at Washington magazine back in the ‘80s, I kept a mason jar of moonshine on my desk, something to share with special visitors. A friend had picked it up somewhere up near Darrington, our state’s little-bit-o-Appalachia. That area was settled by many folks from the Carolinas and Kentucky who came to mine and cut timber in the hills, much as they had done back home. Thus, the famous Darrington Bluegrass Festival (in July), and the heritage that goes with it.

My moonshine was clear as water and smooth as silk, real sippin’ likker. An illegal still was busted in Darrington in 1989 by state and federal liquor agents. I don’t know if it was the source of my batch, but the agents said that the confiscated moonshine was 46 percent pure grain alcohol and sold for $30 a jug. The Feds said it was the best they ever tasted. One agent was quoted in the newspaper giving it a five-star review: “It’ll fry your eyes off.”

This comes to mind because of several sea changes taking place in the state’s alcohol industry. Because of the passage of Initiative 1183, Washington state has shed one of the last legacies of prohibition by allowing private sales and distribution of hard liquor. Costco funded the initiative, and will get its money back because now you’ll be able to buy booze by the forklift. Another recent change allows small, craft distilleries to make and sell liquor direct to the public. The state has approved some 40 distillery licenses since 2008, and more are in the pipeline.

No need now for illegal stills, which were popular during the Depression and never quite died out in the Cascades’ “Tarheel” country. It may soon be possible to get legal moonshine. One producer, Mount Baker Distillery, plans to make a liquor called Abe Smith’s Mt. Baker Moonshine, based on an old family recipe. If it’s half as good as what occupied that jar on my desk, it’ll be a hit.

The road to a new, fairer, and private liquor business will be bumpy as distribution systems shift, taxes go up, and the old system evolves into something new. But ultimately, it’ll be a big positive, another local market for Washington’s agricultural products. Our beer business boomed in part because of the quality of our water and hops, the wine business because of the grapes we can harvest and crush. Distillers will benefit from what our farmers grow: potatoes, grains, berries, fruit. We’ve long been able to eat locally, now drinking locally will come in many more flavors and varieties.

We will also continue to wrestle with the downsides of the demon rum, but this is nothing new. Drunks will find liquor wherever it is, and are unlikely to develop a taste exclusively for artisanal vodka from Spokane. Liquor will be more widely available as the kinks in the system are worked out, and you’ll also see more products of local distilleries at your QFC. It won’t seem weirder than finding Hale’s or Chateau Ste. Michelle on the shelf.

The proliferation of craft beers and fine wines has been nothing but beneficial to growers, restaurants, bars, and tourism. In the 1960s, if you wanted a fine wine, you pretty much had to go to San Francisco to load up your trunk with vintage bottles. Now in Seattle, you can eat a superb six-course dinner, each dish paired with an outstanding wine variety you’ve never heard of from a regional winery you’ve also never heard of.  You will go home happy with your curiosity piqued. That is success.

The richness and strength of that industry has come far in a generation. In 1984, I participated in what was billed as the first organized tasting of Washington wines in Paris (organized by current Crosscut contributor Ronald Holden). Our wines were young, but raised eyebrows among the snobs. Now they have the benefit of maturity, experience, experimentation, and deeper roots. And you can taste it. You can match local foods with local wines that meet any international standard, all in driving distance from where you’re sitting. It’s a far cry from when the Washington wines most available were sacramental grape juices.

Will legal moonshine taste as good as the illegal stuff of yore without its dash of forbidden fruit? I’m looking forward to finding out.

This story first appeared in the June issue of  Seattle Magazine, where the author is a regular columnist.
6  Other / Off-topic / What are you Listning to Right Now? Post And Recommend or Look and Listen! on: January 06, 2013, 01:46:17 PM
Hey guys! becoming a new member not to long ago, infact fairly recent in terms of a full human life Ive had a hard time getting a better understanding of the average bitcoiners life. What his average age is, what the most common occupation is among bitcoiners and the music they choose to listen to.

So To me the best way to start to get a better understanding of someone is start with what there listning too. What there listning too right now!


So with that said guys, WHAT ARE YOU LISTNING TO RIGHT NOW?

I dont know how to imbed pictures but if you do, go ahead and post the album cover or the cover art in general so that when you do let us know what your listning to we have the album art to referance to if we choose to check out what your listning to.

Maybe post a link to what your listning to from youtube so that we all can check it out.

Im listning to 

artists name
"DJ DARA"
album name
"FUTURE PERFECT"
track name
"SLIP N SLIDE(kosheen)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEdgSFJExdQ





NOW YOU TRY!!
7  Economy / Lending / Project!!investors welcome.Short term,low risk,small loan with 100% transparncy on: January 03, 2013, 04:32:11 AM
So below I have a Project that I am currently active and already have the ball rolling. What Im looking for currently is Either someone to take on This Entire project as far as investing in it, or a few people whole are interested in each making a small investment. The Enitire amount needed is approximately is 30BTC  400$ And if you read below at the proposal that the investment cost is about 1/10 of what the profit is expected to be on the low end. And at the most 45BTC or 600$.We could use additional funds because of the nature of our project so ill leave that up to those who want a larger return.

I currently have 1 investor tradefortress who is interested in this as well. I did not want to tie just 1 investors money but also give others the oppurtunity to make a little profit as well. This is a 3 1/2 month long , small to mid loan with a low risk percentage due to the lagalization and proper ducmentation

 Now when I say " I" or "we" I mean me and my mentor who is an important person to not only me, but this project. Because of there experience and proven track record they have Im very lucky and grateful and to have them help me along and teach me.

or maybe 4 investors can do it split 4 ways. I will provide everything from my drivers licence, ssn, facebook, email, phone number, address and a picture of me and todays date, with my user name and if you need it with a newspaper thats fine.  Additional Information if needed will be giving upon request. I also have pictures right now of this project that i can email you if your interested.

Now before I get further I want everyone who looks at this to know a couple things.
1) This is completely legal where I live
2) This is a legal and licensed project
3) During the entirety we will never stray from the law to protect not only us but the investments of those who choose to invest in my project.
4) The setup is already In the middle of moving 1 phase to the next and with the beginning of the next is when we will be accommodating me and adding my additional units so this is where in investment is needed.
5) This is something I have plenty of experience and successful completions but Will be accompanied with help of my mentor who as I have said before has decades experience and is a cancer survivor who knows exactly the type of product and quality we need to be successful and has not only the know how to achieve that but the equipment too. Which she has kindly offered me to have my legal amount to be housed and grown at her location at the cost of me doing all the labor for the both of our crops and purchasing the additional equipment / materials in order to accommodate my grow.

Below is the business plan I had drawn up
--2013 Business proposal--

The purpose of this loan is to invest in a legal medical marijuana grow located in washington. With the new law Washington Initiative 502 (I-502) that was passed December 06 2012 It has opened so many doors to a legitimate way of taking control of an individuals right to medical marijuana and how they choose to provide for tones self. The Benefits for medical marijuana can range from the extreme such as pain relief for those with cancer to the other end of the spectrum like anxiety. The law states that, a patient is legally allowed to grow up 15 plants and posses up to 24 ounces  of dried product.It also allows others to grow for other medical marijuana patients.Those who grow for others are known as primary care providers. Now with a medical marijuana dispensary you can choose to be part of their collective and not buy but (donate a suggested price). This allows the dispensary to either increase their plants per patient over all for there own grow to provide for their patients, or for patients to grow for the dispensary. For my situation I will be adding my legal limit of 15 to her current 15 and currently talking about having a 3rd person to obtain a licence but who does not wish to be apart of our grow other then helping us expand to a total 45 plants.The process in which you “donate” your product to the despensary but are inreturn compensated back in money is completely legal provided you follow state laws and regulations as well as your dispensaries guidelines.The wording is more important then anything else, selling and purchasing are replaced with words or phrases “suuggested donation” If you look below i have copy and pasted the legal interpretation and many different way to abide by this law.


       You skip this part and continue after the dotted line then come back if time is an issue.
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WA Department of Health Rules define the 60 Day Supply limit as up to 15 plants and 24 ounces of dried medicine.  Here, we provide some ideas on how to grow medical cannabis legally, without the risk of arrest.

Variables

Cannabis is a hardy weed that grows vigorously.  If you throw a few seeds on the ground in June, and pray for rain, you might just find a huge bush of pot flowers in the fall.  But that wild mess of green vegetable matter will definitely not be suitable for medical use by terminally ill patients.  The orderly production of fruiting plants is much easier to plan than to execute, and cultivation of cannabis for medical use is a fine art that requires years of experience to master.  The following profiles on potential yields presume the grower already has the prerequisite education and expertise in cannabis cultivation.  Novice cannabis growers will not be able to replicate these numbers in most cases.

The assortment of varieties of medical cannabis is another uncontrolled variable.  Some of the most potent marijuana strains are derived from crosses between the Indica and Sativa varieties, which tend to have greater stem length creating slightly less flower nodes, and therefore less finished medicine than the pure Indica varieties that are usually preferred for indoor production.  (Tall Sativa strains are more suitable for outdoor gardens, which are not specifically covered here.)  The yield estimates given may have significant variation depending on the varieties and methods employed.

Patient use

The issue of patient use is separate from but fundamental to a realistic understanding of these limits on cultivation.  In service with marijuana patients in and around Seattle, I have conducted a survey through patient self-reports in written correspondence incorporated into the medical records of more than one hundred Lifevine members in the Seattle area.  This patient population is comprised of approximately 50% HIV/AIDS patients with the remaining categories of Cancer, Crohn’s, epilepsy, Hepatitis C, Intractable pain, multiple sclerosis, and other illnesses accounting for the other half, Hepatitis C being the second most common ailment in this population.   From this and other studies I have conducted including years of interviews with legally qualified patients  in WA, OR, CA, and MT, I was able to determine and document the range of use of the overall population in a bell curve.

In most cases, marijuana patients use cannabis every day, though finances and availability may forestall their consumption.  A few patients may use as little as a gram or even a half of a gram per day.  That percentage is as rare as the most copious users who may use more than an ounce per week.  Though sources have claimed that some patients may use as much as one ounce or more per day, I find that theoretical notion unrealistic.  Two or at most three ounces per week are the highest amounts I have personally known in my decade of research on the subject.   On average, the middle-range of marijuana consumption by qualified patients is usually 14 to 28 grams per week of high-quality cannabis.   Again, some may need more due to potency issues as well as the tolerance factor that allows increased consumption with repeated exposure leading to diminished psychoactive effects.   For convenience, we shall presume the average patient, if given the availability, will consume up to one full ounce per week; hence, eight weeks' supply equals eight ounces of dried flowers.

Cultivation Profiles

Examples given here are general and do not account for the many pitfalls and hardships encountered by novice marijuana growers.  These estimations presume complete success in all stages and have no margin for error.  Without a doubt, maintaining a continuous supply for a typical cannabis patient with only 15 plants is a technical feat not to be accomplished without a huge investment of planning and effort.

One must first obtain marijuana plants, which may itself be a somewhat daunting task.  If starting with seeds, they must be sprouted and grown to adult maturity to cull the males.  Medical cannabis is almost universally “sensimilla” (without seeds) because the potency of the cannabis is increased when female plants are not pollinated.   That “sexing” process can take two to three months.  During that period, a law-abiding grower would have to “sex” only 15 plants, and would be forced to destroy half – the average number of males.  (This is one area where a physician could not be called to testify on a botanical question, if the defendant needed to justify the possession of 30 plants that were intended to be culled long before a potential harvest.)

Any sort of meaningful breeding program is unworkable with only 15 plants in the garden.  (Realistically, only collective gardens can undertake breeding programs under the new law.)    For simplicity of argument, we presume the patient may obtain one female plant through a seedling process or another source, and then must grow that single plant to generate progeny through cloning, the most common method of propagation.   

Profile 1:
One mother plant provides the source of 14 more.  The patient requires 8 ounces of marijuana in a 60 day period.   It will take 90 days to grow those 14 small plants large enough to yield slightly more than one half ounce of medicine each, totaling the required 8 ounces.  However, because it takes 90 days to grow a 60 day supply, using this method the patient fails to maintain a constant supply.

Profile 2:
One plant provides the source of 14 more, and again the patient requires 8 ounces per 60 days.  If the growing time is increased from 90 to 120 days, it is possible for the experienced grower to produce 16 ounces or more of finished medicine.  Thus, the patient is able to maintain a constant supply, except for the small matter of the next generation.  In order to insure the next cycle is on track, at least one plant must provide the next set of starts, and those must be cloned and rooted while the previous 14 are almost ready for harvest.  (This is another area where a testifying physician could not answer a botanical question, if a patient needed to justify the possession of 14 large plants and 14 small starts during the short period where rooting and the final weeks of flower development could overlap.)   

If the grower is a strong expert who has overcome the many pitfalls and difficulties associated with producing huge plants, it is possible to produce two or more ounces per plant in a 120 day period.  Because there is an additional allowance of 24 ounces of finished product, it is even possible for the expert grower with average needs to maintain a 60-day supply while possessing only 15 plants.  However, there is also the risk of exceeding the 24-ounce limit by producing 14 plants bearing two ounces each, totaling 28 ounces, or more.  This method presents a complication, when the patient requires more than one ounce per week.  In that case, the grower might not be able to maintain a constant supply without exceeding the limit.

Profile 3: 
One plant provides the source of 14 more, and again the patient requires 8 ounces per 60 days.  However, in this example, the patient does not want to wait 4 or 5 months for harvest. The grower propagates 7 starts at a time aiming for a two-legged cycle.  (This method requires at least two separate grow rooms to accommodate the two stages of development.)

7 plants grown under 1000-Watt lights, with proper pruning and staking, may produce the 1.15 ounces required to satisfy the 8-ounce requirement in a 100-day period of growth. The second 7 plants must then enter the cycle about 30 to 40 days after the first 7, to develop another 8 ounces for the following 60-day period, ad infinitum.  Because of the allowance of 24 ounces dried medicine to be possessed in conjunction with the live plants, it is possible to place the second set sooner than 30 days after the first set of 7, thereby increasing the second cycle’s yield at harvest, potentially leading to a surplus under optimum conditions.  he technique is not as complicated as it may seem, but insuring precise yield results can only be accomplished through experience.

The cycling of cannabis plants through three stages of development – small starts, mid-size vegetative plants, and larger flowering plants – is clearly the most rapid and most productive method.  However, the technique requires ample floor space, drainage, air filtration and venting, management of growing media, and of course, at least three high-voltage light systems.  Rent, electricity, hardware selection, installation and maintenance and time-consuming labor, all add up to a huge burden few severely ill individuals can bear.

Profile 4:
When a group of fup to ten patients pool their resources and cultivate cannabis together as one legal entity, the practical difficulties associated with plant limits described above are largely obviated.  Due to the cost and time commitment needed to produce the amounts of medicine listed above, many patients have joined collective cultivation groups.  In collective gardens, 15 plants per patient is quite sufficient; however, such patient groups must now maintain the new threshold of 45 plants per garden, in accordance with the 2011 amendment to WA state law RCW 69.51A, which assumes that not every collective member will require the maximum allowed number of plants.

Conclusion

To comply with legal requirements, cannabis cultivators must have strong knowledge of this little-known subject.  In virtually every example, first-time growers do not produce large amounts of high-quality medicine.  On the other hand, there are also a few cases, where a novice has inadvertently over-planted and produced far more than intended.  The new legal constraints are a challenge, but livable given adequate planning and effort to avoid the numerous difficulties and risks involved with growing medical cannabis.

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The business model that I have created follows my mentors already proven structure and method to creating a sustainable and profitable way of living through the growing of legal medical marijuana in the state of washington. With a complete understanding of state law and following them to remain legal we will ensure our legality and will be successful. In the simplest way the
model follows as is.

1) First and foremost get growing! The maximum legal amount
2) Research and compile a dispensary list and there purchasing prices to maximize profits
3) Setup a second grow to follow  behind because this will be a perpetual harvest not a one time deal
4) Continue to stay on top of the laws and make sure we are up to date.
5) sell to the highest buyer and create report/relationships with the dispensaries
6) Immediately pay of the loan if it has not already been paid
7) Repeat

This grow is something that I will work extremely hard at and try to gain legitimate respect from my peers or those who may think that this is not a viable means for income .As this will be how I choose to make my living. With the legalization I Am so happy that i can now (if i choose to) support a family and have this be my daily job and get paid very well something 9i enjoy doing already and not be labeled a criminal.With that being what drives me I think that it will only promote a legal and professional way of presenting and conducting this grow. And its something close to my heart as my mentor is a surviving cancer patient and i9 have seen the true medicinal/ pain relieving qualities it has on its patients.

In the search for a legal and safe location , one of my potential options and first choice was my mentor.She has been growing just as long as I have been alive and she is a wealth of knowledge that is invaluable to me. She has setup already a legal medical grow and already has laid the groundwork for how you grow, sell and deal with medical marijuana whether selling / donating to the dispensaries or to other legal patients. Talking with her she explained her growing pains when she first started and also the pros and cons of starting something like this on your own. And with a long conversation we came to the agreement/ arrangement that it would make better economic sense for not only me but for her as well. The Benefits are listed below
1) Able to use her space and equipment
2) Do not have to settle for cheaper equipment
3) Safe location, legal , proven location , many successful grows and posted documentation
4) 3 dedicated rooms that were custom built for this purpose
5) I am able to start january 1st( already started to take the cuttings of clones)
6) I do not have to pay for seeds or mess around with  unproven strains and have to pay more. She already has 2 mother plants that have proven genetics and medical grade qualities(proven strain)
7) Im able to further my knowledge and have A master grower who is able to assist me everyday.
 This allows me to increase my success rate and decrease my loan amount.
9) And most of all is that this will not be a 1 time grow but to be setup alongside her perpetual grow cycle which means every 2 months maybe less where were able to harvest more and continue to reap the profits.

My arrangement with her is that I am to do all the labor for both of our systems and also provide  additional equipment to accommodate 15 more plants but also pay half of what the power bill is.


Like most people I believe in holding people accountable and to a certain standard. And the only way i see that completely possible is with 100% transparency. Keeping you up to date with not only the day to day operations, weekly reports and pictures of the progress but also receipts of the things i purchased so that you know that its actually being spent on the project and not elsewhere. Knowing that its been responsibly used for the project should instill additional confidence of a your return. Below I have a list of things that you may request to be apart of the contract or maybe just a few of them interest you.

1)Mandatory weekly reports that are to be submitted by sunday and no later than 5pm   pacific time.Daily reports can be requested as needed.
2)Receipts of items purchased to be scanned and submitted with weekly report.
3)Pictures of the operations and pictures of the things purchased. As well as pictures of the entire operation in the beginning so you can see what im walking into. to be submitted with the weekly report.
4)Itinerary or manifest for what we have planned for the next week.

Currently the grow room has 4 1000w hps grow lights complete with ballast, the grow room is also fitted with a 5 ft charcoal scrubber for exhaust and a small hole that leads outside for fresh air. The grow operation has 3 distinct stages and each stage is a room of its own. There is a room for the cloning process which is fitted with fluorescent lighting that is the ideal spectrum for seedlings and clones. The second room is for vegetative and mother plants. The rooms is fitted with a 1 of the Hps light that is on a timer 18/6 to keep them growing in the vegetative state. This allows the mother plant to never bud which is where our supply of clones come from. The mother plants are a proven strain that have very good genetics, and proven success. the strain is a medical strain known as(insert) The 3rd room is for flowering and it set with 2 of the hps lights because at this stage there are always more plants flowering and they require more light. The light schedule is 12/12 to mimic the winter photo period.

The times are as followed for growth in number of days and the stage in which they are.

2-4 weeks in the clone stage
3-4 weeks in the vegetative stage
4 weeks approx in the flowering stage

We are taking our cuttings and rooting the clones tomorrow on the 1st of january so you can expect mid april at the latest from clone to harvest and sale of this product(time in which it is actually bought) is included in this estimate. However these are plants and cannot anticipate variables that could set the grow back. But my mentor undertstands the loan agreement and if something were to happen to my crop I she would be right there to support me and correct the situation so that no matter what we will see a profit. Now heres the good stuff. She estimates average 3-4 ounce per plant and if you times that by just my base 15 plants average on the low end 50 ounces and the sale of them at 140$ is 7000$on the first harvest legal. even at 100 per ounce which is ⅓ the street price(street prices are actually what set the legal prices, kinda odd I know) thats 5000$ and if the perpetual harvest method is put in place were looking at every 2 months pulling in a harvest like that. So thats why were thinking about pulling a 45 plant model which would require 3 licence holders. We currently have 2.

Now the amount of this loan will be based on the estimate and needs of what the grow currently needs. I will not have to purchase much other then as I stated extra equipment, dirt, fertilizer etc. Currently the immediate needs are
1) Industrial rooter for our cloning process
2) rooting hormone
3) additional fertilizer and dirt (most expensive other than the lights.
3) additional equipment to accommodate my plants such as buckets, and other misc equipment.
4) and the cost of the power bill which has been quoted around 150$ split 2 ways 75$

The total amount that will be required to purchase these things will be approximately 400$
With every purchase i will keep and scan and send you the receipt to make sure that the investment is being invested right down to the penny. Now the purchasing of these products will be done at local hydroponic/ grow stores due to the accessibility and the fact that i do not have to wait or pay for shipping. I would prefer that the loan be issued if possible in USD, but if BTC is what you prefer thats fine i just hate the exchanges and want to minimize wasteful spending on fees.

The total time for the duration of this loan is till mid april. This follows the timeline of our plants being planted. Now we are in the process of getting my clones ready which marks the not just the 1st of this month but also the first month of 3 that it takes till we get to a harvest and the sale of our product. We expect mid april to be when we pay the loan(s) back with there interest as well. so 3 1/2 months  will be the duration with a possibility of being paid sooner.

If interested please contact me and let me know if you have need additional information or have questions.

gabber gabe

 
8  Economy / Invites & Accounts / COMBAT ARMS MAJOR 3 ACCOUNT on: December 30, 2012, 07:43:42 AM
COMBAT ARMS MAJOR 3 ACCOUNT
has a few permant weapons and has over 50k in gp

ill take any offer really, pretty much your paying for all the unlocked weapons and the permants as well.
9  Other / Off-topic / Is your family into bitcoin? on: December 26, 2012, 11:19:24 AM
Well i was wondering if BTC is something that you keep to yourself and like minded friends or partners or do you have your family included?

Reason i ask is i showed my mother and she actually likes the whole idea, shes also pondering investments to make a return or even profiting from exchanges.

Id like to see my whole family have some sort of hand in BTC.

your thoughts?

gabber
10  Bitcoin / Project Development / Basics of creating a business model or proposal (possible tutorial?) on: December 25, 2012, 07:32:53 AM
So I will be gearing up within the next few weeks to create my own small business. Legitimate business of course I would not use others invested money on anything that could be deem illegal.

Now The business that I will be starting will be my first, however the type of business or service is something I have been doing for years and only until recent have I seen an opportunity to make a legitimate profit that with a fairly small investment. I have already the knowledge of my industry but also the talent to become a name that is recognised for quality and service. I also have the technical know how and extremely low overhead and a direction I want to take it.

With that said In order for me to start this venture I need funds in order to do this. I will gave about 25% of it covered and the other 75% invested. But I need to have a solid business plan and timeline to keep my investors confident that they will not only get there investment back but the profit as well. I want to have my business proposal 100% transparent and would like to have my books open If thats required.

But what makes a good business proposal? What type of research and information do i need to provide? And what type of return should i offer my investors?

I do not have a problem sharing my business idea at all and maybe I should do that so that this thread could be something of a tutorial for those who are in my position.

Any ways thanks alot guys and i know you may need additional information to help me with this but in the end i want you all to know how serious this is to me. This is something i hope to be succesfull at and be my main source of income or way of making a living for my family.
11  Other / Off-topic / KILLVISION D&b Dubstep Hip Hop EDM Music production on: December 24, 2012, 03:06:14 AM
Hey guys Just thought I would let you guys check out what Im all about and the music I create. If you have a soundcloud please follow if you like, If not shoot me an email for downloads or if you want to donate that always helps us musicians continue what we do and love.
 
Soundcloud.com/killvisionseattle

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I create All my music Through FL Studio 10, I use various synths such as NI Massive, Sylenth1, Sytrus, Harmor, and a host of filters/effects
Like db glitch , Ohmacide, and Fls vocodex.

I create my music in an unorthodox way , No keyboard, No midi, No hardware. Just standalone FL studio and vsts. Program all notes manually and create my own patches for the vsts i use so feel free to ask about a certain sound and i can provide the patch to which ever synth was use.

You can also check out this youtube video of me doing a play through and showing my work for the camera while the song plays.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYPYUdmqIFM

Thanks Alot guys!

GabberGabe
KiLLVISION
12  Other / Beginners & Help / PGP Encryption for newbies on: December 20, 2012, 05:53:54 AM
So If you couldn't already tell im new!

Hello! Im gabber, any ways now with the introduction out of the way i would just like to start a thread about PGP encryption. I did do a search on these newbie forums since im a noob and im only authorized to post here. But I could not find anything about pgp encryption so i figured this would be a perfect place to have a discussion/tutorial thread.

Now I dont know about PGP encryption a whole lot, but i have done some research , so what i would like to do here is as a community collectively create  a thread were not only can we learn and educate ourselves but put forth our own opinions and suggestions on different software of PGP encryption.

With that i guess i would appreciate someone with more information on it to follow up with a replay and lets get this ball rolling!!
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