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1  Economy / Economics / Re: The lending problem on: September 05, 2021, 01:38:16 PM
A simple question to the forum - I hope that people can provide sensible answers, since it would be way too easy to preach rather than to reason.

It has been mentioned many times in the forum that banks can be killed by bitcoin and that crypto is a threat for central banks, etc... One of the reasons that make me doubt about that possibility is the worldwide need of having a strong lending and borrowing system. I think that currently DeFi does not offer a realistic solution and that lending eventually has to rely on an intermediary. That, in some way or under a different name, is a bank.

How is this problem addressed currently and how could it be solved at large scale without a "bank" of shorts?
I don't think it can kill banks. It is possible that they co-exist but not killed banks. As for lending, I think it is not possible on bitcoin. It was not under bitcoin because it was decentralized and it was volatile.  There are many reasons why people need banks, and lending is one of it. Banks already set rules and have a fixed systems about it. Or the payment was already fixed. While if it is in bitcoin where the price goes up and down it can be confusing and complicated.
2  Economy / Economics / Re: BTC is helping out Cubans and Venezuelans on: September 05, 2021, 01:23:56 PM
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For OPSEC reasons I don't (personally) want to go in to this topic too heavily myself, but this is already happening.

I have known about Venezuelans for years using BTC (and Dash) as a partial substitute for their worthless currency and hard-to-get US dollar fiat.  Apparently these efforts have been quite helpful to those in Venezuela in a position to use cryptos to make their lives better.

Now Cuban-Americans are sending BTC to embattled Cuba.  I do not know the amounts though.

These really ARE excellent use-cases in which BTC is helping to add value to the lives of those under oppression.  This is clearly a good thing.

yes, it was a really good thing for them. And it was great that they know about it. It can save them financially like everyone who earns and trusts bitcoin all over the world. It shows the real reasons why bitcoin was created, and that was to give and help everyone financially. The government can't limit them or get their own money form them.
3  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is one of the saviors. on: September 05, 2021, 01:18:54 PM
we certainly hear a lot of people whose their lives change 180% because of Bitcoin

based on https://www.livebitcoinnews.com/venezuelans-turn-to-bitcoin-and-online-gaming-to-survive/

when government policies make them miserable, they find ways to survive.

Do you agree with Bitcoin is one of the saviors and are there any of us who have saved their economic lives since focusing on Bitcoin?

Honestly, I'm one of the people whose economic needs have survived because of Bitcoin  Grin
It was really great to read something like this. on how bitcoin helps them. Bitcoin can really be a savior to us especially about financial if we do well. Many people has change their life because of bitcoin. they already have a house and lot, an assets, car, can travel anywhere because of bitcoin eventhough they are young. But we all kow that it was not that easy, They invest their time, money and accumulate knowledge and experiences first before they got that success. So if we also want that, we should be knowledgeable first and work hard to earn that becuase it is not impossible on bitcoin.
4  Local / Pilipinas / Re: May tax ba ang Cryptocurrency? on: September 05, 2021, 01:02:53 PM
Just wondering, ang cryptocurrencies ba ay may tax? Ayon sa Taxation Law ng Pinas, kapag kasi ang isang freelancer ay lumagpas ang kinita sa PHP250,000 sa loob ng isang taon ay may kaukulan na itong tax.

This case might be sensitive pero matanong ko lang, wala pa bang kumatok sa mga bahay sa inyo ayon sa usaping ito? I mean tax evasion.
Share your thoughts and experiences, hirap kasi na parang ilegal tong ginagawa natin dahil wala naman talagang batas ukol dito
Sa pagkakaalam ko wala pa. Kasi dahil sa pagiging decentralize nito mahirap matukoy ng BIR ang mga may hawak nito or kumikita dito. Pero sa trasactions or exchange nag kakaroon ng tax. But maybe in the future BIR can have a system or a way to know who owns and earn thru bitcoin para magkarron ng. Pag naging legal na ito sa bansa posible na magkakaroon ng regulations about dun and eventually makakapag pataw sila ng tax. But before that kailangan muna itong pagaralan ng Bir before ipatupad ito dahil ito ay komplikado and volatile.
5  Economy / Economics / Re: Only young and naive guy believe in high risk high return on: September 04, 2021, 02:17:03 PM
Only young and naive guy believe in high risk high return

In the world wars, young and naive people go to battle field and fight each other to death, they take risk to protect the war that they can never win, while they’re being manipulate by the other group of elite who do not like to take such risk. These elite tell the young people to take the risk despite they know it’s risky and they don’t want take the risk but want someone else to take such risk. Many people died and sacrificed in the war that can’t be won. The elite do not take the risk, not only they didn’t take risk they also profit a lot from the war, for the people who love to advocate high risk high return, NOPE you’re wrong, they take no risk while they can make the maximum profit that those of you who take risk can only dream of.

They go to war not because they are naive and young but they have their own reasons, to protect, or sometimes they don't have any choice and are manipulated. And about the high-risk high return, you are right from this. Those elite or those who have knowledge of certain situation make the naive people take that risk and them believe that they can get more profit if the risk is higher, so because of lack of knowledge they follow them and believe them.
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Since the war is over, it’s not profitable for the elite anymore. They know what is their next move after the war. Yup, money, they’re now looking at money, they know money has the same properties to a world war, they also know they do not like to take risk, so now they tell all you idiot to take risk that they don’t want to take and deceive you to believe high risk high return, you’re real idiot if you didn’t learn from the previous lesson, you’re idiot if you didn’t learn from the world wars, you’re idiot to take risk that they tell you to take while they making maximum profit taking no risk at all.
When it was about earning money, risk is always there. But the high risk hig return is true sometimes. If you invest large capital then you can posibbly earn very big amount. But it is not always like this because if didn't go on your way they your lossing to much.
So probably, before taking any risk, big or small you should accumalate knowledge and infos first before taking that risk.
6  Economy / Economics / Re: The reason to hodl bitcoin on: September 04, 2021, 01:56:08 PM
the reason why i keep collecting bitcoins and i keep holding is for long term investment. When I am old I want to fully enjoy my old age with my family without being burdened with work responsibilities. I strongly believe the price of bitcoin will continue to increase just as it did in 2010 until now. the limited number of supplies and the increasing number of investors make me even more convinced that investing in bitcoin is the best investment right now.

that was great. First, you already have a plan for your future, then you trust bitcoin so much, and also it was really great that you can hold bitcoin for too long. Your patience was too long or you are already financially stable to hold it until you grow old.
HODL really requires patience, and trust, and also knowledge to gain profit in the long run. The price of bitocin is realy rising compared on how much it is for the past years so it is possible that it will continuously increase in the term even though there are times that it falls but it still rises again.
7  Economy / Economics / Re: What is better - cryptocurrency trading or investing? on: September 04, 2021, 01:33:18 PM
I prefer to invest than trade where I often feel pressured when the coins I have are sold an  price a coin go high
if i invest i just  wait for the right time  when i take profit without any stress
yes, me too. invest is good especially for a long term and less hassle. But we just need to be careful on where to 'invest to avoid scammer. So that it is worth it to wait and risk our investments. But still trading and investment have advantages and disadvantages. Both have limitations so if you are a good trader then trade then if you want to invest then go. It also matter of timing on when to trade and invest.
8  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin wasn’t created to make you rich. It was created to make you free on: September 03, 2021, 03:32:46 PM
My thoughts is that bitcoin is just a medium to help you become rich or financially stable, in the end you are the one that needs to utilize those tools given to you, what I mean by that is you do have bitcoin but you don't know what to do next so you are just stuck into hodling only which isn't helpful if you want to get financially stable. I do agree that bitcoin can return the power back to the working class but we all know that bitcoin is for everyone so even the ruling class can get in like what they are doing now.
I agree with this, Bitcoin will help you rich but on how to manage it is in your hands because some people don't know how to manage their earnings well that make them broke.

Bitcoin was developed to give everyone freedom on their own money. On what they want to do with it, without anyone regulating it. Because of being free, it depends on how you manage or utilize it and become rich. Because of that financial freedom, people can be stuck on holding, spend it, but some people use it as an investment.
9  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you think financial stability is mandatory to be a gainer in Bitcoin invest? on: September 03, 2021, 03:23:22 PM
We often notice rich people become rich day by day. It's no different for Bitcoin as well. Because we can see the most benefited person from Bitcoin is big investors, mean definitely they are rich. If you agree with me then why do you think most big investors are gainers and why most small investors can't gain.

For me, I think financial stability works behind our success in life. So same goes for Bitcoin investors as well. The rich person could invest for a long time. He doesn't have problems even he doesn't sell his holding even during very bear markets. A financially stable person even could hold 10 years. But like us who are small investors, we aren't stabled financially. As a result, we don't when we have to sell our holding for need. That's how we become losers even we intend to hold for a long time. I am a real example of that recently.

Do you think financial stability is mandatory to be a gainer in Bitcoin investments?

Rich people become rich day by day, I think it was because of their mentality. A rich people are not afraid of losses. They always learn from it so that they won't fail next time. So they became sucessful each day.

Big investors stable financially so that they can hold how much they want without using it for a long time because they have extra money for the things if they want to spend.

Finacial stability is not really a mandatory but a very big advantage. If you are financially stable, the chance that you give up or be scared when the price drop is lesser. It was not mandatory because the things that are mandatory on bitcoin investments is your strong will, patience, be wise and set a rich & winning mindset.
10  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Pagpasok ng Tao Sa Crypto on: August 30, 2021, 09:39:59 PM

Ngayong nakamit at nahigitan na naman ang naitakdang value noong 2017, maaasahan kaya natin ang pagsulpot ng mga taong maaakit sa Bitcoin? Dadami kaya ang magiging investors ngayong malalaman nila na isang malaking asset ang BTC.

(Aasahan na din ba natin ang pagtaas ng bilang ng mga scammers ngayon kung magkakaroon ng posibilidad sa pagdami ng mga papasok sa crypto?)

Halos araw araw nadadagdagan ang mga tao na pumapasok sa mundo ng bitcoin dahil dumadami na din ang mga taong nagpapatunay na magandang asset ang bitcoin. Regarding scammers, palagi yang nandyan and dumadami din sila kasabay ng pagdami ng pumapasok sa bitcoin kaya ang dapat ay mas maging maingat ang bawat isa sa pagtukoy ng magandang proyekto or investment. Wag padalos dalos sa desisyon at suriin mabuti ang mga lalahukang investment. Ang mga scammers din ay gumagaling sa pang scam kaya dapat mas maging mapanuri at magtiwala.
11  Economy / Economics / Re: Can Bitcoins kill Central Banks? on: August 29, 2021, 02:54:11 PM
The answer is simple - no, bitcoin will not kill banks!
Why? Because governments will never allow an uncontrolled entity to replace a government-controlled, formal payment mechanism. The only thing that bitcoin, as a technology, can influence, is to push banks to use part of blockchain technologies in banking technologies.
Agreed. It will not kill banks. As long as the banks are not going to allow it to be the main currency it will not happen. It was decentralized so there's no way they can regulate it so they will never accept something that they can't control. Bitcoin adoption is getting stronger and bigger so it will not kill central banks but it is much better for central banks to plan or developed a system that will enable them to work with crypto or accept crypto in the future that can benefit everyone.
12  Economy / Economics / Re: The slave does not dream of freedom, but of being the slave-master on: August 29, 2021, 02:52:23 PM
This is a sentence I recently heard on a TV series I was watching that made me think of my own stance in life. Am I striving to become the master of slaves?  Perhaps those who climb the corporate ladder think in those terms? Are we creating our own cryptocurrency just to be our own masters or are we actually seeking to become the new masters of the new slaves? BTW I am very interested in knowing if this is a quote from anyone famous or just part of the script.
This phrase was something deep and made me think. In reality, almost all slaves or at the bottom of the ladder always want to be at the top.. at the top of the other. And someone at the top comes from being slave.
Or if you think it more deeply, it can reflect on anyone's life. A slave or poor people always want to have the chance, freedom, superiority, the opportunity and everything that a slave master has so their eyes are always in that, in their goal.
13  Economy / Economics / Re: Differences between an investor and common man! on: August 29, 2021, 02:41:55 PM
What are the things differ from mindset of common man with investor,please share your thoughts.

IMO,investors never want to take loans for their consumption like home loan,car loan,etc then just save money and will buy the things for their needs but common man like you and me will buy the things immediately when we get the desire of it using loans but we are paying 20% of interest to those kind of loans.
I think their main differrence is their mindset. An investor always thinks of profit that will come and go and circulate to have more profit and also a business minded while the other is not.
When it comes to loan, an investor applied for loan to invest on business that can help him paying the loan as well as to generate profit while a common man applied for loan for something that the money will not comeback or his money will only go on paying that loan.
14  Economy / Economics / Re: After 1 year of Covid 19 Virus on: August 29, 2021, 02:24:38 PM
November 2019 is the month where corona virus started at Wuhan China and now it's already one year has past. This Covid pandemic killed a lot of people all over the world, many people lost their job and it affect too much on the lives of everyone and also in every countries  economy.

After all the sufferings caused of this virus, we are still striving to overcome and go back to our normal daily lives. But sadly that everything has change and we are currently in a new normal where all are still taking some health protocol in order to avoid the spreading of virus and become affected of it.

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"I think we can see the light at the end of the tunnel", According to Pfizer Chairman and CEO Dr. Albert Bourla

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Pfizer and BioNTech announced their coronavirus vaccine was more than 90% among those evidence of prior infection, hailing the development as "a great day for science and humanity."
You can find more details on this post..https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5287841.0

Now that there is already a vaccine , could it be the end of covid- 19 virus? How are you after one year of covid-19 pandemic?

There is a saying," Behind the Clouds the Sun is still Shining".

Now, that theres already a vaccine, it gives hope to people that this pandemic will end soon and everyone can continue their normal life. On the current pandemic, many people lives were affected. So I am grateful that theres already a vaccine eventhough the supply is limited because they need to produce a million vaccine a day that can cause it to be delayed sometimes or the distributions takes time. but atleast theres a way to end this pandemic.
And also, the people needs to be disciplined and cooperate to government to stop this pandemic too.
15  Economy / Economics / Re: The reason to hodl bitcoin on: August 28, 2021, 02:50:24 PM
I hold bitcoin for the main reason of appreciation. I believe that BTC's price right now is still small that it could potentially rose to a 10x in the future. Another thing is it solves inflation. Instead of saving my money in bank, I put it in BTC and watch it grow as it goes.

You trust bitcoin too much. And that's what is important if you decided to hold bitcoin. That was what the early adopters did and that was a great decision. But I think you should also put some on the bank. Due to inflation, the bitcoin you were holding may decrease in value and will get back and get much profit but what if you need urgent money but the price of bitcoin is low due to inflation, what will you do?
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoins Be Cashed? on: August 28, 2021, 02:45:01 PM
Bitcoin is a digital currency that circulates freely, without any control or supervision from banks, governments, or anyone else. In contrast, bitcoin relies solely on cryptography and software between computers.

what if the government closes or does not allow the exchange of Bitcoin or cryptocurrencies with the official currency in each country?  Huh

It was decentralized so that no one can regulate it especially the government. But just in case the government doesn't allow exchanges  it can be a problem ans many people will give up on crypto. But as of now, I think it will not going to happen because the government still not going to close it and they can't close it. People can make or think of other ways to convert it into fiat.
17  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin to trigger central bank collapse on: August 28, 2021, 02:36:30 PM
Central banks will rather adopt blockchain and evolve. Bitcoin solely is not enough to solve global problems

Yes, it was right. Crypto or blockchains are already there and the people who adopts it are continously increasing each day so, in order to make the central banks to not collapse on the very far future, they need to adopt it and make some adjustment too.
If the government do not accept bitcoin, central banks will never collapse because it will always be needed.
18  Economy / Economics / Re: Are you making money online? on: August 28, 2021, 02:21:10 PM
Im also currently working on an  8 hours regular job ;5 days a week to live and sustain my needs. It was enough to make me live by myself but very little for my family needs.
I don't have many skills that make it hard for me to find extra work online or offline and make me think again  to come back on joining signature campaigns to have extra income while at home after coming back from work and hopefully make me earn and continue learning about crypto where I stop 4 years ago.
19  Economy / Economics / Re: Cryptocurrency: The Future of Finance in a New World Order? on: August 28, 2021, 02:09:34 PM
In 2009, the first cryptocurrency -Bitcoin-, officially launched and since then has continued to roll into a snowball effect that poses a serious threat to the existence of conventional finance. As much money as the restless World Central Bank, the government seems helpless and dragged into the vortex of the evolution of the world's financial system. The Covid-19 pandemic has become a catalyst for forcing the entry of all financial and banking industry sectors into the digitalization era. Imagine a concept of a world without physical currency. It is strange, but real. Money will be removed and replaced with a digital currency system.

I don't think it is possible to remove and replaced current money with digital currency. Even though the adoption of crypto or digital currency is increasing every day especially when the pandemic hits, it will not replace fiat. As long as there are people who want to use the current money it will never be replaced and the government will never let it happen. It is possible that crypto and current money will co-exist forever but will not replace the current.
20  Economy / Economics / Re: The Role of Government in Crypto on: August 27, 2021, 12:29:57 AM
the primary role of government is to provide a regulatory framework in an economy, Government sole responsibility is to provide a guideline on how thing are to be done within their jurisdictions.

this is not different with cryptocurrency although cryptocurrency is created with high anonymous the truth remains that cryptocurrency co-exist with other factors in the economy such as the bank and the traditional currencies, for crypto to become a full flesh currency it need to under go government regulation because that is the only way cryptocurrency will be considered a legal currency.

questions:

will government regulations on cryptocurrencies undermined crypto decentralized nature?
yes, because it is going against the main principle of crypto when it was made, that was to give financial freedom without the control of any other entity other than themselves. So if the government regulates it and have control over crypto, "freedom" can have limitations.
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