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The first content creators are also starting to hop aboard! You can find them in our Discord server in the #nsfw channel  |
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Also, I find it extremely bothersome that Vassilis still hasn't posted himself and some unknown individual by the name Mooncoin_Foundation communicates in his name. Unlike many of the leaders of the Discord community, MCF completely hides his identity. The first thing to do is disclose your identity.
Secondly, I've read several statements that Agswinner gets to sign documents and decide on what to do as he owns the majority of the coins. We had a discussion a few months ago where all of you agreed that we should not give more power to people holding more coins. Every member of the community should have an equal vote. That's what you have said. Now, you're going up against your own points of view.
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We are communicating with Vassilis via polemarhos (he knows him personally).
The consensus amongst legitimate holders of majority of these coins is:
coins must be burned.
Vassilis agreed to burn them, but he needs an official document to do that.
It will not be so fast to prepare that for him.
Also there is a question: to which address to send coins to burn them?
I suggested a burn address earlier, but after that people suggested 2 other burn addresses.
So the community must also come to the consensus about a burn address.
Experts must confirm that the address is really a burn address.
If someone wants to claim his/her coins, again: please post in this ANN thread (before coins are burned),
because after coins are burned, no one on this Earth will be able to get them.
You must be able to prove that you are a legitimate owner of coins which you claim.
This is ludicrous. Why isn't Vassilis posting this himself? He is the main developer, he is the current owner of those coins. He should post these updates. I thought you wanted decentralization Mooncoin_Foundation? How can something be decentralized if in fact the ANN is pulling all the strings. Also, he does not need an 'official document'. In fact, there are barely any laws relating to cryptocurrency; let alone laws regarding the burning of coins. There is no such thing. Nowhere in the world, so neither in V's Greece. He can just burn them whenever he wants, there are no possible official documents. Also, who is to say that claims are indeed legitimate and not fraudulent? This is my claim. The determination is “ Your Claim Form and supporting documentation have been accepted..” “ CRYPTSY CRYPTOCURRENCY SETTLEMENT DETERMINATION OF RECOGNIZED CLAIM DATE: SEPTEMBER 15, 2017 ANDREA ?............CLAIM NUMBER: 630?  ? You submitted a Claim Form in the class action lawsuit styled Brandon Leidel, et al. v. Project Investors, Inc. d/b/a Cryptsy, Paul Vernon, et al., U.S. Dist. Ct. - S.D. Fla. -- Case No. 9:16-cv- 80060-KAM (the “Lawsuit”). Your Claim Form and supporting documentation have been accepted, and payment will be issued pursuant to the terms of the Settlement Agreement and Plan of Allocation in the Lawsuit.............. “ this is the easiest way as proof 1) a copy of your claim (only claim accepted) 2) the same documentation sent to the Fed court Yea no, this accepted claim does not hold up. You indeed need to send all the documentation sent to the Fed Court that proved you did indeed own some of the coins. Also, ALL PROOF needs to be disclosed to the general public. We cannot condone sending coins from the frozen wallet to claimees, without disclosing their documented claims. Otherwise it's too easy for V or anyone else to commit fraud. I see allsnioc shared the same concerns. I also second his question, if V is indeed getting legal representation, he should most definitely state the name of his lawyer. Who is going to decide who should get their coins back?
Is is you Mooncoin_Foundatoin that will decide that a claim is legit? Is it Vassilis?
And if at the end you don't publish all the claims how can people know that this is not a scam and that you did to make sure to redirect most of the 62B to your own wallets?
And why is the deadline 14 February?
And why is there no name of the lawyer that is supposedly taking care of this?
To everyone: be smart and don't expose your personal information, no one is going to give you back your Cryptsy coins. If they do it is to hide a scam.
If the federal court can't do such thing for sure the "disappeared" dev Vassilis and the anonymous "Mooncoin_Foundation" account can't do so. |
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We are communicating with Vassilis via polemarhos (he knows him personally).
The consensus amongst legitimate holders of majority of these coins is:
coins must be burned.
Vassilis agreed to burn them, but he needs an official document to do that.
It will not be so fast to prepare that for him.
Also there is a question: to which address to send coins to burn them?
I suggested a burn address earlier, but after that people suggested 2 other burn addresses.
So the community must also come to the consensus about a burn address.
Experts must confirm that the address is really a burn address.
If someone wants to claim his/her coins, again: please post in this ANN thread (before coins are burned),
because after coins are burned, no one on this Earth will be able to get them.
You must be able to prove that you are a legitimate owner of coins which you claim.
This is ludicrous. Why isn't Vassilis posting this himself? He is the main developer, he is the current owner of those coins. He should post these updates. I thought you wanted decentralization Mooncoin_Foundation? How can something be decentralized if in fact the ANN is pulling all the strings. Also, he does not need an 'official document'. In fact, there are barely any laws relating to cryptocurrency; let alone laws regarding the burning of coins. There is no such thing. Nowhere in the world, so neither in V's Greece. He can just burn them whenever he wants, there are no possible official documents. Also, who is to say that claims are indeed legitimate and not fraudulent? |
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You've gave us a lot of dates in the past, about when to expect new stuff. And you never delivered. We even build a support development team around you, but that went downhill fairly soon, as you disappeared for a long time. Just be straight up with us and say "well guys, it looks like I'm almost ready but I can't set any dates yet.". Now, everyone expects a release, just to see nothing happening - AGAIN. Causing a lot of investors to lose trust.
Honesty is key in making this succeed!
umm.. hi guys?  i need to support myself too, for some time now i've managed the entirety of the codebase by myself, i'd managed most of the support for all side-branches of moon including the utilities, i supported moon comfortably before the big interest spike in crypto earlier this year (yes, we did exist beforehand), i had asked people to look and ask around about a qt-developer due to the time-consuming nature of modifying/designing qt interfaces, at the point where i said i needed to step away (again, to put food on the table), some members were kind enough to set up a fund to help out. even then; other people were quick to point out that it was just a cash-grab for myself (i did appreciate it littlestan, organised and gave selflessly - top bloke, big, evangelo and to everyone i havent mentioned from the discord). other than that; i've had constant messages of all sorts of tone on the bitcointalk forums, i've had people message my phone all hours of the day, people calling me, people emailling me - i've even had a few determined users find me on facebook. some time back it was suggested that i simply split a cut into the coinbase reward; however i feel this isn't the right thing to do, as good code will attract further funding by happenstance. most people don't realise that i also support the moonrush pool; as well as the two main nodes out of my own pocket (this does get covered, however i have to pay it upfront). Ha, good to see you're back. I was not trying to discredit you. I know you also need to support yourself. As I said, I've been in similar situations where I tried to get things done quickly - and thought I would be able to do so - but then ended up taking way longer than needed because I had to earn a living and do other stuff. So I just want you to set reasonable deadlines - or none at all - so people don't get excited for nothing and then start dumping their coins if nothing happens. We were not able to find a qt-developer but Alex had offered his help as an extra C developer. And I myself, offered to help out building a wallet in Electron. That offer still stands. I quit my progress when Mooncoin seemed to go nowhere. But if there's technical progress, I can finally resume my works as well. |
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the wallet, cpu miner and suitable stratum modules (nomp/unomp and stratum-mining) will be ready by the end of the week; however I will coordinate with exchanges prior to the hard-fork.
for the newcomers, in the following days i
i thankyou all for your patience; i've got quite a bit going on in the background - including some awesome employment prospects (crypto-related) which will become public inevitably in the future.
Come on man, just be honest with us. I know stress and pressure can cause you to name deadlines that you know you won't deliver. I've done the same stuff in the past. You've gave us a lot of dates in the past, about when to expect new stuff. And you never delivered. We even build a support development team around you, but that went downhill fairly soon, as you disappeared for a long time. Just be straight up with us and say "well guys, it looks like I'm almost ready but I can't set any dates yet.". Now, everyone expects a release, just to see nothing happening - AGAIN. Causing a lot of investors to lose trust. Honesty is key in making this succeed! |
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I can see Mooncoin was made currency of Future Scouts. This needs more exposure, I can not see this anywhere other than this forum. Exposure is crucial to success, something Mooncoin is not doing well. I can also see from previous posts that a casino utilizing Mooncoin was in development, where is that? We must get on top of all aspects - exposure, development, projects. Let us cease the drama completely. Everybody will always disagree with something. We ALL want Mooncoin to propel into higher satoshi range. I will send a PM to James today. We are all ready to succeed, it's been enough waiting.
Yep that is correct, we wanted to wait with posting it on Mooncoin.eco and Moonchan until future scouts themselves have released the news. There was and is indeed a casino in development. By me and Icedbluw. It was 2/3 done, when the logo issue came up. So much time and energy was spent on this issue, that I got a bit bummed out by Mooncoin. I halted the work and spend time on other projects and also had a vacation in the mean time. I have recently started developing again and will finish it. I hope to release it soon, it all depends a bit on how much people are willing to contribute to helping Mooncoin progress. |
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I concur with the Dogecoin approach. But also believe it is imperative to get onto other exchanges (Bittrex, Polo, Asia). Regarding algo, James hopefully is correct in saying that he has a 0.13 trial version almost ready. This is crucial to Mooncoin progress. I also have wondered if we should hire some additional developers to assist James? I do not want James to be overloaded and feel the need to take a step back. But if he is committed to progressing in a reasonable timeframe, I support him. We should make active steps to infiltrate the Asian market. Logo does not bother me, use whatever logo you see fit. At the end of the day, a user buying Mooncoin, is buying Mooncoin, regardless of logo.
Yes, we definitely could use some more exchanges. We've already tried Bittrex but are yet to be accepted. I personally do think it's wise to first release more features/products before trying to move to big exchanges. Otherwise, we could get a temporary spike just to fall back down. And we could definitely use some assistance for James. One C++ developer has already volunteered to help out assisting on the core and even more would only be better. So if anyone else that is knowledgeable in blockchain programming; wants to join, you are more than welcome. |
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As of the technical aspect I believe we do not need to implement masternodes and cpu mining algo. We need new retargeting algorithm though.
A different algo implementation is crucial for the survival of mooncoin. The current coin supply is so large, that large transactions (just millions) currently already take 8+ hours. And now we don't even have that many transactions. This will cripple our network in the future. Mooncoin need to be embraced by the Asian markets/users. That is why we want to keep the current blue moon logo. We need to be united and with no hierarchy in order to do so.
Unicode ticker:
☽ &# 9789 &# 263D FIRST QUARTER MOON
Thank you,
☽
The blue ellipse is the old logo. The current logo is: Jasperrr Jasperrr, this is the retargeting algo I am talking about and also have nothing to do with the coin supply. It is not the current logo and it was competing with the macdonalds logo which makes the entire contest farce. You can see the current logo in the OP post. It does, the current algorithm is simply not equipped for the huge coin supply; even with adjusted retargetting. No, there was a previous vote between all possible logos and it won there. Then a revote got held and as far as I know, the current one was the only logo entered and thus won by default. I don't know where the mcdonalds logo came from, as far as I remember someone posted that to mock Larrimar's design skills. The new logo is embraced by the main developer and added it in the new wallet which is soon to be released:  |
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As of the technical aspect I believe we do not need to implement masternodes and cpu mining algo. We need new retargeting algorithm though.
A different algo implementation is crucial for the survival of mooncoin. The current coin supply is so large, that large transactions (just millions) currently already take 8+ hours. And now we don't even have that many transactions. This will cripple our network in the future. Mooncoin need to be embraced by the Asian markets/users. That is why we want to keep the current blue moon logo. We need to be united and with no hierarchy in order to do so.
Unicode ticker:
☽ &# 9789 &# 263D FIRST QUARTER MOON
Thank you,
☽
The blue ellipse is the old logo. The current logo is:  |
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Now, one of the projects that I'm working on is an Electron wallet that allows us more freedom regarding design; than QT wallets.
Thanks to tdinan1, we now have a mock-up design for the wallet. This is the first sketch and it is still being worked on but we would love to get your feedback. This would help us a lot with tuning the skin to everyone's liking. Also, in the future, a skin system will be implanted so you can easily add/update/change skins. The first release will, however, come with just a basic skin set.
Flaritos, can you give some feedback please!  And midmir, quit starting fights and insulting people please. Just stop all the bickering. I like much more the second edition with blue background. Thanks! I'm gonna include both of them, as skins. But if there are general things about the structure that you think can be improved, feel free to say so! |
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The logo is really trivial but the way it was enforced, same as the board, new "official" website, community relocation and so on is not ok.
The logo was never enforced man, there was a proper vote. Advertised here and on the discord. Probably wasn't a much better way to do it. It won a majority vote and barrysty1e embraced the new logo. |
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Now, one of the projects that I'm working on is an Electron wallet that allows us more freedom regarding design; than QT wallets. Thanks to tdinan1, we now have a mock-up design for the wallet. This is the first sketch and it is still being worked on but we would love to get your feedback. This would help us a lot with tuning the skin to everyone's liking. Also, in the future, a skin system will be implanted so you can easily add/update/change skins. The first release will, however, come with just a basic skin set.   Flaritos, can you give some feedback please! And midmir, quit starting fights and insulting people please. Just stop all the bickering. |
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Littlestan, please do not quote me and talk to me.
At least not before you revert the logo, stop with the stupid actions and educate yourself in the cryprtocurrencies subject.
Same goes for you, stop acting like a douche and hold a normal conversation. Regarding the logo issue, there has been a revote for the logo and the new design won again. So please quit that discussion and move forward. Jasperrr, are you the one who contacted coinmarketcap to change the logo? No I did not, I already said that here before. As far as I know, Barry is the only with the power to do so. Did you see the Mooncoin_Foundation proposition regarding the logo immediately was supported by 3 users and no one is against other than you - the Discord TO newbies with 2 months old btctalk accounts, directors wannabes. You are not only arrogant but harmful so far and I strongly suggest you to fork Mooncoin or create your own coin. Let me guess you can't do neither of those. Go trolling on another coin then. We do not need you.
Stop being a toxic piece of shit please. Your childish accusations don't even deserve a proper reponse but I will write it down for you one last time. Evangelo, official marketing director at the time, decided it was time for a new logo. Apparently the blue ellipse was just a temporary placeholder and it was time to look for a new logo. Submissions were opened on the discord channel and this was also posted in this ANN. When the voting opened, another reminder was posted here in the ANN. However, you and some others started to whine that the vote was unfair and there was too little time and announcement. So a revote was organized; this revote was announced way in advance. Submissions were opened for a week and daily reminders were posted here. After Larrimar was the only one to enter, he won by default; as there were no opponents. That was the end of the logo story. Feel free to ask Barry for confirmation. You are the one being harmful to the coin, and talking like an arrogant prick. Acting all high and mighty because we are just 'newbies with 2 months old btctalk accounts, directors wannabes'. We have no desire to fork Mooncoin, we are working together with Barry on developing and improving this coin. However, if you do not agree with the logo and what not, feel free to fork it yourself. We are actual developers, you? A trashtalker at most. Screaming and offending others, because of a lack of skills to prove your worth. Just quit it mate, this isn't going to help anyone. And certainly not Mooncoin. MOONCOIN IS DECENTRALIZED PROJECT AND WILL REMAIN AS SUCH.
No, it will not, Mooncoin will have a board. It will still have the full capability for users to submit their ideas and wishes. The community will still be polled for their opinion. But a board will oversee things, to stay clear of the mess. And avoid endless discussions like the logo issue. If you do not agree, feel free to fork. |
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Mooncoin stands out on the MarketCap because it is the lowest valued token of the 200 listed. This makes even the slightest volatility in the market (one which is extremely volatile at the moment) capable of producing a favorable ROI for investors who hold little capitol upfront (i.e.. the dude with < 0.75 BTC looking to get in on the crypto hype). However, once anyone takes even a slight glance at the history of Mooncoin, he or she immediately realizes what a piece of shit this dump is.
No one associated with this token has done jack-shit with it for over 3 years. Developer issues, blockchain matter... what ever the excuse, it's all non-sense. Mooncoin is as "wolf-of-wall-street" as it gets in this emerging Crypto market, so stop patronizing yourselves on some "awesome product that is going to change the world" (no disrespect to the developers). At the end of the day, we are all just a bunch of overnight millionaire wannabes looking to get rich quick.
Changing the stupid logo? Is that someones idea of a plan? Lol. You could turn the logo into dildo for all that anyone cares, because its so obvious that move is a weak try for the attention of a whale who could momentarily fluctuate the token and put a few bucks in your pocket (if you're paying attention). The good news... as long as this token stays afloat, it will attract the bottom-feeders to check it out and possibly make a bet to set-it-and-forget-it bet, drop by drop increasing the marketcap.
A board to make decisions about Mooncoin? No. A board would consist of those who hold the highest token balance in conjunction with members who would bring validity to the token (maybe experienced and advanced developers, marketing teams, or veteran traders). Essentially, when someone stumbles across this pile of dung, they would say "Oh, Buffett sits on the board of this company? There must be something here." With that said, no one with a legitimate reputation would sit on the board of Mooncoin, especially with all the other cryptos that will be introduced that don't have the history of a textbook pump and dump.
There is a chance that someone, or a team of people could come along and take this thing over... but again, thats a dreamers paradise. With that said, I'm in and looking to get rich quick, but I'm not gonna try and fool people into thinking this is something special. In my opinion, I hope to God it will be, but I understand that I'll be hoping for a long time.
How about contributing some of your talents or time to help Mooncoin get to where its going instead of praying and wishing? We'd love to have more help! Above in red bro. Good luck. Like I said (obviously you didn't read and thats ok), I'm in this game with you and hope for the best, but your token will be funded (ever so slightly mind you) by bottom feeders waiting for a whale to blow it up. Lol, nowhere in your text do you state that you are not willing to contribute. Especially not in your highlighted text. You could just give him a normal response, you know? No need to act like a douche. Cmon bro, is that the take away you got? I wasn't trying to be a douche at all; certainly not my intention to personally grind on anyone. I was just sharing my idea of the reality of the situation. 135 pages of people arguing in circles. I bought Mooncoin and thats as much as can be expected from most people I think. If that is douche to you, it was not my intention. Well, the 'obviously you didn't read' is a bit unnecessary, isn't it? Feel free to be a HODL'er without contributing, you have every right too. And I cimpletely agree with you, it's just a constant back and forth of the same arguments. And that's crippling development. |
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Now, one of the projects that I'm working on is an Electron wallet that allows us more freedom regarding design; than QT wallets. Thanks to tdinan1, we now have a mock-up design for the wallet. This is the first sketch and it is still being worked on but we would love to get your feedback. This would help us a lot with tuning the skin to everyone's liking. Also, in the future, a skin system will be implanted so you can easily add/update/change skins. The first release will, however, come with just a basic skin set. |
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Littlestan, please do not quote me and talk to me.
At least not before you revert the logo, stop with the stupid actions and educate yourself in the cryprtocurrencies subject.
Same goes for you, stop acting like a douche and hold a normal conversation. Regarding the logo issue, there has been a revote for the logo and the new design won again. So please quit that discussion and move forward. |
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Mooncoin stands out on the MarketCap because it is the lowest valued token of the 200 listed. This makes even the slightest volatility in the market (one which is extremely volatile at the moment) capable of producing a favorable ROI for investors who hold little capitol upfront (i.e.. the dude with < 0.75 BTC looking to get in on the crypto hype). However, once anyone takes even a slight glance at the history of Mooncoin, he or she immediately realizes what a piece of shit this dump is.
No one associated with this token has done jack-shit with it for over 3 years. Developer issues, blockchain matter... what ever the excuse, it's all non-sense. Mooncoin is as "wolf-of-wall-street" as it gets in this emerging Crypto market, so stop patronizing yourselves on some "awesome product that is going to change the world" (no disrespect to the developers). At the end of the day, we are all just a bunch of overnight millionaire wannabes looking to get rich quick.
Changing the stupid logo? Is that someones idea of a plan? Lol. You could turn the logo into dildo for all that anyone cares, because its so obvious that move is a weak try for the attention of a whale who could momentarily fluctuate the token and put a few bucks in your pocket (if you're paying attention). The good news... as long as this token stays afloat, it will attract the bottom-feeders to check it out and possibly make a bet to set-it-and-forget-it bet, drop by drop increasing the marketcap.
A board to make decisions about Mooncoin? No. A board would consist of those who hold the highest token balance in conjunction with members who would bring validity to the token (maybe experienced and advanced developers, marketing teams, or veteran traders). Essentially, when someone stumbles across this pile of dung, they would say "Oh, Buffett sits on the board of this company? There must be something here." With that said, no one with a legitimate reputation would sit on the board of Mooncoin, especially with all the other cryptos that will be introduced that don't have the history of a textbook pump and dump.
There is a chance that someone, or a team of people could come along and take this thing over... but again, thats a dreamers paradise. With that said, I'm in and looking to get rich quick, but I'm not gonna try and fool people into thinking this is something special. In my opinion, I hope to God it will be, but I understand that I'll be hoping for a long time.
How about contributing some of your talents or time to help Mooncoin get to where its going instead of praying and wishing? We'd love to have more help! Above in red bro. Good luck. Like I said (obviously you didn't read and thats ok), I'm in this game with you and hope for the best, but your token will be funded (ever so slightly mind you) by bottom feeders waiting for a whale to blow it up. Lol, nowhere in your text do you state that you are not willing to contribute. Especially not in your highlighted text. You could just give him a normal response, you know? No need to act like a douche. |
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I'm not against progress and a team,
also endless polls are definitely a bad idea.
A board will stop the need for unnecessary polls.
A board is fine as long as you can understand that decentralized properties can also happen in parallel. Yes, you should have a board which still asks for the community's opinion through polls and what not, and also accepts user input. But at the same time, the board should be able to make decisions on important matters; without waiting 2 weeks for all sorts of polls to resolve it. Why do we need a board of directors just to implement something good?
Because very little has happened in four years.
If you think that then you haven't been following mooncoin at all, and so a suggestion from you to make some "board" loses its credibility. Please state what has happened development-wise? Yes, a lot has happened. But the main tech has not been released yet, nor have any good project supporting Moon been launched atm. Although we are working hard on them now, there have been little in the past 4 years. If you do something which doesn't affect people, their money etc, they will not mind.
Not having a board adversely affects my money, I mind.
Then that is only a problem that you have within your own mind. Who until now has had this problem? We all did, we had good momentum and a lot of enthusiastic people working on projects. But it all came to a stand still at 10 sats, when everyone decided to start bickering about the logo. That completely killed our momentum. Having a board could have prevented that from happening. You're welcome.
Not contributing to the solution and being arrogant about it is probably the reason nothing has happened. I ask you to take a step back and get to work on building Mooncoin.
"nothing has happened" ... prove it. One cannot prove that nothing has happened, one can only prove that something HAS happened. Thus, feel free to proof him (and me) wrong and tell us about all the projects that have been launched the past 4 years. |
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