They're just offering some IOU futures token if I'm not mistaken.   They've done
that before and the real thing may not be close in price to the token.
I'm not stressed about the whole issue either, but I just want to see it over and done
with.  Couldn't care less about bcc other than getting some for free.

So if I move everything out of electrum after fork, I will still be able to use those keys to be claimed on bch any time in future, is it right? even years later?

Hello there . Any prediction for Ethereum during BTC update on July 30-Aug 3/5

Your speculation is good but I have a little bit questions, how can you say that ethereum were reach the $1000 after 5 years? Do you have any basis to contest your speculation?

ETH looks bad right now. Reason: ICO's cashing out. Basically it's lots of people giving ICO's their ETH, which is then sold. So what currently happens is a huge selling wave.

However it will not go on forever, at some point people run out of ETH and have to buy ETH at market to use for ICO's.

Also people favor BTC right now because they expect a split (free coins on other chain, like BCC).

Now the bullish part:

Long term, all the ICO stuff will harden ETH. ETH fuels so many applications, it will become too large to fail, and more and more gas is used.

Also ETH will become POS - which means a lot of interest earning and "masternode" locking of ETH. Casper discussions are around 4%, not bad for HODLing.

Therefore ETH long term should be much higher  

ETH has a very strong development team.

So many coins on the Ethereum network now !
I think 0.5 BTC or more is a good target.

For now it may be difficult to predict the price of ethereum due to the high supply of coin compared to bitcoin. But with the increasing number of projects that work with ethereum, the price of ethereum is drastically reduced. For the next 5 years, ethereum may be priced at $1500/ethereum.

Positive on the air, in my opinion, indicates an early correction, and not a quick recovery))) Five years will be enough to return to today's levels)))

Well, crypto currencies value is unpredictable but I think Eth shows a lot of potential. So, maybe by year 2022 it's value will increase a lot. And  I would like to see that. 

Fool, you have no idea what you're talking about, and clearly neither do those investors. Do you realise what you're saying, what they're saying? 99,999% sure those guys have a tonne of money stashed in BTC and ETH. They want people to believe it's possible, so they say stuff like that. If BTC is worth 500K and ETH 250K, we're talking about a total global marketcap of cryptos of about 20 trillion. That's about 1/4th of all the money in the world, and that's not counting other massive coins like XRP or LTC. Also, if someone buys BTC at 500K, they believe it will go even higher. Making claims like this shows how little you know of our economy, and how blatantly those so called 'experts' are willing to lie for their own gains.

From what I believe from my own extensive research and 4 year experience as a financial expert and consultant is that BTC could reach 30K within 10 years IF global adoption happens according to plan, with ETH reaching about 4K, as that it's backed by companies the consumer trusts (microsoft, jp morgan, ...). I also believe it won't go much above that. Everything has it's limit.

Last, if you want to become rich, like we all do, don't just buy, hold and hope for the price to go x100; buy, hold and accumulate. Investing 300$ a month, 200 in BTC, 50 in ETH and 50 in a different alt (may I recommend START, ANS or MNE), will grow your assets in a slow but steady way. In 10 years, you'll have about 15btc (if you managed to sell at highs to invest back in dips) which will be worth 450K. You'll also have around 15ETH, which will be worth around 50K as well. Last, your alts, lets say you've accumulated ANS. I believe it could easily be worth 200$ within 10 years (basically its Chinas ETH), so if you buy for 60$ every month, again following the btc strategy of selling high and buying back low, you should have a bag of about 150 ANS, adding another 30K to your worth. Don't forget that you bought your entire holdings with a total of 36K, and you ended up with a total capital of about 530K, by investing a mere 300$ a month. With 530K, you can buy 4 decent appartments where I live (Belgium), which will give you a rental income of about 3K a month, which where I live means you don't have to work anymore.

Like I said, I'm not telling you that doesn't work. My original comment was about you saying that BTC is expected to reach half a million in 3 years (I also read about mcAfee claiming this) and ETH a quarter mil. My question to you is if you realise what it would take for it to reach that level? 3 years is about 1.000 days, meaning bitcoin would have to gain, on average, a little under 500$ a day. No whale would allow this without cashing out big time every single day of those 3 years. Second, I don't guarantee anything, and I don't only work with cryptos or investors, I take care of peoples retirement plans as well, some of which are extremely low risk, others are extremely high risk. Mostly, however, I get people asking me how to invest in cryptos in a safe way. The absolute best way in my opinion is to therefore gradually invest a small amount every week if the circumstances are right. Third, I started working in finance and insurance when I was 18 with my uncle who used to have his own consultancy business. I have seen a lot of people lose money as a result of reckless investing, and allthough it's fun and exciting to 'gamble', it's not for everyone, in fact none of my clients do. I have also worked with top investors and consultants, including one of the only Belgian billionaires. I have learned how to guide people in building a solid portfolio including property investments, insurance, stocks, startups, and many more, all without taking unnecessary risks. That's why none of them are millionaires after a few years of investing, but also none of them have lost any money in the long haul, and all of them are steadily building their wealth in a way they fully understand. Fourth, I'm definitely still learning, all of us are because this market is barely a decade old. With your last point I definitely agree. A volatile market is a market with a lot of unsure traders, people who trade with emotion rather than strategies. They will indeed leave the market, but it will take a hell of a lot longer than 3 years, I'm afraid, as the vast majority of the world is still getting to know Bitcoin, let alone the alts.

Once eth goes to pos there will be no need for miners to sell it to cover their power bills. Less selling, more buying.

Even to eth is in a bearish mode,
I think it will go over  $1000 by next year , early next year...
So in 2022 ?! Anywhere from 2000 to 10000 .
Just my opinion.
Will look back at this post next year !

Add trezor to this list as hd wallet.

God people are so delusional

Could you at least elaborate and not leave it at, you are wrong because I say so, at least I gave an argument about why this is not going to be the case, Ethereum is already very big, and when you are big it is difficult to become even bigger, especially when you have something on top of you avoiding your growth, which in this case is bitcoin.