Hello Mr. Lee,

I think the 10 cas goes for at least 13BTC

I think the bitbills collection goes for on average slightly overload value.

The bitbills are slightly harder to pin down, less well know and recognizable then the cas.

Either way this is quite the horde in terms of BTC and crypto history.

100XMR CRACKED! Once swept, I will be posting private keys (both in their initial state and existing state) along with the methods used to access wallet. Thank you to everyone and most of all, Smoothie, who spent plenty of time creating analytical comparisons and going back and forth in DMs constructively debating potential solutions and sure enough his Z on the middle row was a letter I had never tried which proved to be the missing piece along with his other spot-on predictions (crazy considering he only had zoomed in photos whereas I had professional equipment and couldn't get the correct results /fail).

I can either start a separate thread on the entire process or continue this thread, any preferences? This was quite the process and I probably learned the hard way by switching up methods throughout but hopefully can add to Owlcatz educational post for any future sweepers.

I have a funded MILLON Doge coin for sale, but you know its not cheap. 

There's one available here. Feel free to make an offer  

https://4k.com/market/collectible/44

I think it's only a matter of time until the police and/or the feds get involved now, this is turning into a large-scale scam, maybe one of the largest scams ever on this site, with many victims, me included.

I will step in and say that would take away from the very limited mintage of this artwork and I would not agree to it. 

2) We are going to clarify additional rights that give NFT owners the right to print the image on various media or display the image for their own enjoyment.  This is something most NFT projects are lacking.  So, you can print the image on a coffee mug for yourself, but you can't start printing and selling them commercially.  

The authenticity will shift to the NFT. The NFT allows the owner to enjoy the art in virtual spaces and grants the owner the right to reproduce the image in the physical world for personal use.  If you want to sell the art piece, you simply sell the NFT.  

That’s because we haven’t seen proof the sale was 100% legitimate and those who have been around longer with a bit more knowledge know that price if legitimate was a fluke (like what happens on eBay once in a while), which happens, but should not remotely be expected going forward. The coin prices listed on 4k aren’t going to drive this hobby anywhere as they likely aren’t going to sell.

4k kind of reminds me of Elias (Encyclopedia author) and his team at “CryptoVice”. Not as knowledgeable as the community here (speaking of their sales service, not encyclopedia,), and actively trying to steer sales away for their own profit that’s not really going to help the hobby grow.. like Scare City has done. The website is not well established. Unless I’m missing something I don’t see 4ks fees, insurance protection proof, terms of service etc. All red flags.  

NFTs are a cute idea but in theory are just that. The only true safety would come in the form of a legally drawn up agreement that could hold up in a court of law.

It’s great that we can see the team members, but that’s not really anything that’s going to make me sleep better using this service. You state in your video AnonymousMiner is an anonymous escrow. Many collectors here have met him or know his name, and he’s helped facilitate sales, but he’s not a technical forum escrow service.  OGNasty. MinerJones, Krogo, HHampuz who are, have been trusted with hundreds of millions of dollars worth of collectibles for years, which is a proven track record (much of which viewable via the blockchain ). OGNasty and MinerJones were BitcoinTalk treasurers for several years who were entrusted with millions of dollars in btc by Theymos (of course who Satoshi left the site to). I’d say that’s a pretty impressive track record that is easily proven.

Site misinformation claiming Casascius/Mike Caldwell created the physical bitcoin concept is false. Gavin Andresen, Satoshis former lead dev did. BitBills were first to create one, in card form, and Mike followed suit shortly after. Also stating that bitcoin maxi’s see owning a Casascius coin as a must to be a who’s who is completely false. Most of the bitcoin maximalists HATE physical bitcoins (not your keys, not your coins). So those two false statements feel like misinformation used for artificial hype/sales tactics.

I just came across your video today and realized I had forgotten this thread was made. Truth is I’m stating here what was briefly echoed to me by long time collectors in “passing”. I just never looked in to the site.

Some of my concerns can hopefully be addressed, as sites like this are helpful in expanding the hobby, but this site in current form truthfully just really isn’t. These concerns are partially why business is going to Scarce and not 4k and will continue to until things are addressed /changed. -My 2 Satoshis

Note: your future staking  proposal brings up a whole other set of questions/concerns but I’ll save that for another day.

4K video - https://youtu.be/2Q3PjFTf7eo