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I wish KnC could definitively tell us what the hashrate of the miners will be.
Based on the KnC forum comments about the chip timeframe, September isn't sounding as likely right now...
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Refund received for Batches 3 & 4.
Now into the assembly + hosting situation...
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Can anyone confirm they've received a refund?
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Friday would be a good day of the week for a fresh update...
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Please keep up your presence here on the thread SB.
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I'm guessing you got an email that said it was rejected?
(hoping I don't get one)
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Is there any way to determine whether our refund form was submitted correctly with the signed message... or... do we just blindly wait for a refund and hope it appears in our wallets?
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I personally have no interest in the next gen of chips, but the buyers had better use an escrow with a **short** timeline.
This wholly sucks.
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SB's lack of communication is very painful at this point.
My only hope is that he's cooking up something amazing as a way forward and/or out.
He could at least pop onto the thread and tell us he's working on something, and that we could expect to hear from him in 24 hours... or a couple or days... or... ? Totally sucks being entirely in the dark and is below the level of service that he demonstrated early on.
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But the good news is that it gives all of the boards that people have pre-paid for some definitive value.
Have to admit it was wise of Steamboat to wait this out if he had the gen 1 --> gen 2 chip compatibility information in advance. I still want as much of a refund as is possible for chips and boards and assembly and hosting, and BitSyncom's announcement makes that much more achievable.
Hopefully steamboat will follow quickly with the second update and a plan for everyone who wants to either get out, or double down.
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I hate to ask this, but didn't SB provide his personal info to John K.?
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Cryptsy API link is down somehow?
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By and large if you look at all the other big groupbuy organizers they have all been refunded for all the orders they requested - they have also finished refunding individual buyers. Sebastian had refunded 40,000 chip orders, zefir another 30,000 and then moved on to a bitfury group buy. Problem here is without communication we don't know where we stand.
This!!! ^^^ Please tell us what's going on SB!!! |
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Mine went to the cryptsy chain too.  |
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Did the NAN resurrection ever happen?
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Not to mention hosting. I've already paid the set-up fee for hosting too. Really hate being stuck in limbo.
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Please be kind to each other, we are all getting a fairly aggressive Colonoscopy here. (Especially steamboat)
How do you figure that? At this point SB seems pretty darn concerned with making a profit regardless. I don't doubt SB's ability to turn lemons into lemonade, but we don't even have the lemons right now... |
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All I'm saying is that I think their case design is substandard, and I will likely be throwing it in the trash as soon as it arrives. Why go through the bother (and I think extra chance for damage while shipping of those chips or boards attached only to the base of the case with no support from the top or sides as it seems to be.)
Just put those boards into some well cushioned boxes and ship them. no need to assemble. If anything it would speed up shipping. They can just set the chips in the boards, test them for however long, then ship them.
do you get me now?
I've read your posts, here are a few cooling ideas: 1. Squirrel cage fans: These things are ideal for being ducted in tight spaces, the graphic cards folks love them. I've also used them (as suction fans) on horizontal heatsinks -- the updraft design is not ideal, but not horrible either, and lets you route the exhaust very easily. 2. If you're stuck with the provided coolers, and are running the gear at home, with the cover off, consider rotating the front boards 180 degrees (actually, just swap the fans to the other side), so the fans are blowing out of the front & inhaling from the center. You'd have to also flip the front case fans (if any), so they're blowing out. Scrap (probably unbolt?) the new case divider baffles. 3. If the rates are going up as fast as they are now, it's important to have the absolute minimum of initial downtime, so simple fan-flips (and the push-pull fan arrangement you've mentioned) sounds like the way to fly  Wait a minute... Was that a constructive post from... crumbs?!? |
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So considering number of group buys have already completed the refund process... Isn't it about time for an update? I understand that Steamboat may have some sort of negotiation in the works, but we're coming back to the issue of how the updates came all the time when everything was on schedule, and now that we're all losing money, updates are **really** scarce.
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Please stop posting wild and misleading claims without showing any calculations. Below is calculated with 4500 mh/s, $.0.10 electricity, and 33% per month increase in difficulty rating for one K16 starting at 100 million difficulty.
33% difficulty increase per month is laughable. From August 3rd to September 4th of this year, we've seen a 232% increase. How can you try to calculate @ 33% per month when the last month has been 232% increase? Obviously 232% per month is unsustainable LONG term. But if HashFast, KNC, Bitfury and BFL continue to make miners with significant hashpower, this increase can last long enough to make these 110 nm chips lose over half of their assembled value. To not accept this likely outcome is to look at this situation with rose colored glasses. Thank you for explaining this, hopefully it will sink in. Put more directly -- ROI is dead, please bring on more refund details. |
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