Hope it's not off topic but i can't find whether this has been asked before, is it possible that the p106 also has 8gb soldered on board? Currently the p106 is the counterpart of the 1060 6gb and so if the p104 has 8gb hidden inside it, is it possible the p106 has too?
I've read about some hacks to the p106 to make it usable for gaming, so maybe theres one for unlocking more GB too?
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I've flash my P104-100 to "8GB" bios provided here but still runs out of ram when launching the DAG. guess it's just a BIOs trick? Edit: Just had to try various BIOs found one that worked which unlocked 8GB albeit it uses more power than before.
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I've flash my P104-100 to "8GB" bios but still runs out of ram when launching the DAG. guess it's just a BIOs trick?
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some facts.
you can expect around 30,5mh/s x 6 gpus from every rig (that makes around 183mh/s). You can expect something around 135W for every card. so around 22kW of power considering all the gpus + components.
Your ETH hashing power should be around 4800mh/s. If your Electricity cost is around 0,10 you make 511$ right now (that's not even considering ROI, bill taxes, or government taxes over profit. 0,11cnt/kW you make 352$ right now. 0.12cnt/kW you make 194$. and at 0,13cnt/kW you make 36$.
Now, the average price in my country for every kW is around 0,15€/kW (we pay 26% taxes over electricity prices due to leftists "idea" with green energy). Which is around 0,17$ (including all taxes). Talking in numbers, a guy living in my country with your setup, will be losing almost 600$ per month at current prices.
I can add some information, that can help you to collect some more facts. The average price in my country - less about $0.06/kW. In the first post TS shows Mh and power consumption - totally it 6454/21910. And $0.1 per kW. Less profit - much miners turns rigs off - difficulty down - more profit. More ETH at low cost and low difficulty - HODL - more profit. Give some more facts please. you seem to be like one of those poor guys outthere that would kill for 10$. Sorry, i don't want to deal with people like that. It makes no sense. Ohh, BTW, at 0,06$/kWh you live in a third world country, so i undestand your way of thinking. You make more mining than working, so 10$ for you can be way more money than working. It makes sense. For 10$ profit per month, i don't even take the cotton sheets from the equipment. Oh, BTW, at lowest prices on ETH (80$ more or less), it never went down of 134.000Gh/s. Even if we have seen a drop in value of over 35% in last month, the hashrate went from about 145.000gh/s to actual 172.000gh/s. In last two days, with masive drops of nearly 25%, it increased from 162.000gh/s to 176.000gh/s even with bloodbath in the streets. So people turned on their equipments even at heavy loses, which show how "intelligent" are miners nowadays. That's because the difficulty is a lagging indicator. When the price first started jumping to $250-300 difficulty actually DROPPED. However, as the price increased and stabilized for a couple of weeks difficulty increased. I suspect if this price drop continues or stabilizes around $160-200 we'll see about 2.0T difficulty, but it takes time for the farms to react. Further updates I've been busy trying to stabilize my rigs, 90% of my problems involve riser issues and cards "falling off the bus" the rest is just the typical overclock/undervolt issues and finding the right settings. I have to praise SRB BIOs mod. It literally saved me as 'one-click' PBE was awful for these Hynix cards. Resulting in tons of crashing and BSODs. Once I tried SRB it increased my hashrate for Hynix and Elpida to 30mh/s per card at 1950-2000mhz@860-875mv(core/mem) which is about 120w~ a card. Total hashrate for my rigs is around 385-393mh/s for 13 GPUs @ 1650w~ total power per rig. I've been mining since 2017 and one thing I learned is to HODL the coins you earn as much as possible and never ever sell during down-periods. Right now while my rigs "aren't as profitable" due to the down-turn. In one month time that can literally change as markets pick back up. I cover my electric as much as possible with my normal IT job and sell coins to cover the rest. As of the time of this writing, since I started this thread and my farm back-up mining ethereum in Ernst I have collectively mined 9.5 Ethereum. Mind you I was slowly getting rigs online and lots of crashes so this hasn't been 24/7 mining. This is one-man operation as well and I have a normal 9-5 job, girlfriend, and life. I spend as much time as possible working on my farm as a second job. My estimation is to achieve 90% stability by End of July. Right now I'm at 65% with 11/14 rigs running continually but with a few crashes/restarts due to GPU crashes in claymore. mmm....big farms react almost instantly. changing their algo can be done almost automatically with their software. There are people outthere that can switch coins with one click. Moreover, they can also tell the computer to switch to certain algos during certain times. They load profiles directly on the miner (not bios) and as soon as they load the miner, the program gets the card working. I myself was able to switch from ETH to ETC miles away from my house when i was mining back in 2017. Now..... i don't normally help people with issues, but i´ll give a few tips in case they can help. the sweet spot for RX 470-570 (mines were 570's ) is: 1150 mhz on the core, 2100 mem. AFAIK 470 and 570 are almost the same card, but 570 is a bit better, to be honest. My experience is that you should not undervolt the memory. My Sapphire RX570 nitro+ cards did crash a lot if i undervolted the memory, so i left them at 1000mv stock. 850mv on the memory...well...maybe it's ok for 2000mhz, but take into account that RX 570's nitro+ at 1750 stock mem clock had 1000mv stock. Now, the voltage. i have 3 RX 570's nitro+ 8gb 1º 1150/2250 831-837mv core/ 1000mv mem 31.4mh/s 2º 1150/2190 831-837mv core/ 1000mv mem 30,8mh/s 3º 1150/2125 831-837mv core/ 1000mv mem 30,3mh/s They were stable for months at this settings. I tested for two days all of my cards before going into the mining rig. i programmed the bios in all of them and i tweaked as much as possible the voltages except for memory. ETH is a pretty intensive algo with the memory, and i prefered to forget about having problems with undervolting. I suppose your undervolt saves you some money. my 2x6 mining rig are off. and they will continue to be off for a large period of time. I will only turn them on if i can get 100$ profit per month or more after electricity bill, which i think will not happen this year. At current prices , and the very expensive cost per kW i would be losing around 15 $ for month with bills of around 350€ or a bit more in summer due to fans having to work hard in my room to deal with heat, specially where i live. So....yeah...mining is not worth for me. I tested the wattage for 1000mv memory and your insane for 13 GPUs that about 2000w! I'm achieving 390mh/s~ @ 1650w-1700w~ and just a little tuning for the GPUs. That 300w extra per rig and I have 11 RX470 rigs so thats an extra 3300w! I'd rather suffer some crashes or restarts tuning and finding stable wattage then that. The person who sold all these 150 gpus was relieved from heavy sleepiness duty ehhe
He sold and took a long vacation and never looked back. This person was finally unchained.
You trolls will never understand what freedom really is until you do exactly what this person has done ehhe
This person enjoy and understands what freedom really is ehhe
The funny thing is that this is how I felt when I ran a large GPU farm. I still mine but with a few GPUs here and there and mostly for fun. Basically only betting on ETHBTC going to 0.05BTC one day and will sell it all for BTC and Hodl that. I remember the stress of having GPUs crash and I had alerts set and was awoken many hours of the night. And when I wasn't home I kept getting alerts about crashed rigs and had to drive home, reboot the rig, and drive back. This got very stressful during the $5/day/GPU when there was alot of profit on the line. Now that the profitability is much lower you can sleep throughout the night and not worry, because a crashed rig doesn't cost you as much as before. Luckily I don't have to drive anywhere since it's in my garage simply a walk. However I do still get a little stressed or annoyed because when they do go offline I don't know why, which is the big problem. I very much just want to achieve some stability but right now I haven't gone a full day without at-least one rig going completely offline :\. |
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The problem with running them at the stock voltage for the memory is power savings. Sure your cards are stable and can clock high without problems, but not all cards are the same. You could be saving 100-200w per rig and still have the same hashrate just by downclocking memory to 900mv - 950mv, some down to 860mv. That's my philosophy, the one that cannot do it will spit out errors. Well then just up the voltage higher or downclock memory. Power is mining's biggest expense/cost. More you save power the more you save money!
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some facts.
you can expect around 30,5mh/s x 6 gpus from every rig (that makes around 183mh/s). You can expect something around 135W for every card. so around 22kW of power considering all the gpus + components.
Your ETH hashing power should be around 4800mh/s. If your Electricity cost is around 0,10 you make 511$ right now (that's not even considering ROI, bill taxes, or government taxes over profit. 0,11cnt/kW you make 352$ right now. 0.12cnt/kW you make 194$. and at 0,13cnt/kW you make 36$.
Now, the average price in my country for every kW is around 0,15€/kW (we pay 26% taxes over electricity prices due to leftists "idea" with green energy). Which is around 0,17$ (including all taxes). Talking in numbers, a guy living in my country with your setup, will be losing almost 600$ per month at current prices.
I can add some information, that can help you to collect some more facts. The average price in my country - less about $0.06/kW. In the first post TS shows Mh and power consumption - totally it 6454/21910. And $0.1 per kW. Less profit - much miners turns rigs off - difficulty down - more profit. More ETH at low cost and low difficulty - HODL - more profit. Give some more facts please. you seem to be like one of those poor guys outthere that would kill for 10$. Sorry, i don't want to deal with people like that. It makes no sense. Ohh, BTW, at 0,06$/kWh you live in a third world country, so i undestand your way of thinking. You make more mining than working, so 10$ for you can be way more money than working. It makes sense. For 10$ profit per month, i don't even take the cotton sheets from the equipment. Oh, BTW, at lowest prices on ETH (80$ more or less), it never went down of 134.000Gh/s. Even if we have seen a drop in value of over 35% in last month, the hashrate went from about 145.000gh/s to actual 172.000gh/s. In last two days, with masive drops of nearly 25%, it increased from 162.000gh/s to 176.000gh/s even with bloodbath in the streets. So people turned on their equipments even at heavy loses, which show how "intelligent" are miners nowadays. That's because the difficulty is a lagging indicator. When the price first started jumping to $250-300 difficulty actually DROPPED. However, as the price increased and stabilized for a couple of weeks difficulty increased. I suspect if this price drop continues or stabilizes around $160-200 we'll see about 2.0T difficulty, but it takes time for the farms to react. Further updates I've been busy trying to stabilize my rigs, 90% of my problems involve riser issues and cards "falling off the bus" the rest is just the typical overclock/undervolt issues and finding the right settings. I have to praise SRB BIOs mod. It literally saved me as 'one-click' PBE was awful for these Hynix cards. Resulting in tons of crashing and BSODs. Once I tried SRB it increased my hashrate for Hynix and Elpida to 30mh/s per card at 1950-2000mhz@860-875mv(core/mem) which is about 120w~ a card. Total hashrate for my rigs is around 385-393mh/s for 13 GPUs @ 1650w~ total power per rig. I've been mining since 2017 and one thing I learned is to HODL the coins you earn as much as possible and never ever sell during down-periods. Right now while my rigs "aren't as profitable" due to the down-turn. In one month time that can literally change as markets pick back up. I cover my electric as much as possible with my normal IT job and sell coins to cover the rest. As of the time of this writing, since I started this thread and my farm back-up mining ethereum in Ernst I have collectively mined 9.5 Ethereum. Mind you I was slowly getting rigs online and lots of crashes so this hasn't been 24/7 mining. This is one-man operation as well and I have a normal 9-5 job, girlfriend, and life. I spend as much time as possible working on my farm as a second job. My goal is to achieve 90% stability by End of July with everything fully stable and running by August. Right now I'm at 65% with 11/14 rigs running continually but with a few crashes/restarts due to GPU crashes in claymore. Currently using a mixture of Windows 10 OS and HiveOS. HiveOS to spot out and detect bad risers and Windows OS for testing Voltage and clockspeeds. I'm thinking once everything is stable at clocks/voltages for the GPUs. I will BIOs flash them to that specific clock and run everything in HiveOS. However I'm not 100% on that since it costs me $3 per rig per month in HiveOS while i have already paid/own Awesomeminer for 20 rigs and there is no monthly reoccurring fee. |
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Short update. It's been a challenge finding the right BIOs mod, settled with SRBN which has given me excellent hashrate and power consumptions for Elpida and Hynix GPUs. I have 10 GPUs fail and or DOA on me. Which I'm in the process of returning to the seller. Currently only 1 RIG down and at 6.0Gh/s for my farm! Net earning per day are currently at a total of $146. This includes all the RX and Nvidia GPUs mining Ethereum. Will try to update with pictures soon and a 'what i learned'
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p104-100 basically 1080 hashrates after flashed to 8gb?
Negative, it just allows more memory to be used. It's still a wierd mix of 1070 shaders and 1080's GDDR5x |
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Any reason you're not using Claymore's 14.7 with timing straps? or just use PBE? I have RX470 4Gbs (samsungs non-mining edition) and get 30mh~ with these with no errors 900/900mv @2000mhz
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bump for update
Been getting it up and running, currently at 3.5Gh/s. ill update OP with some pictures! Having a ton of BSODs and crashes so it's taking longer than I would of hoped. Without Claymore STRAP feature working correctly(He is working with me on this issue) I have to painfully BIOs mod and flash each memory type then adjust for Memory clocks. It's real pain. Some BIOs mods are better than others etc. 2 observations here, pay attention to them.
This thread was created on June 12, 2019, today is June 26, 2019, so 14 days. Now, on June 12, eth was 242 usd, 14 days after that eth is 360 usd, so in 14 days eth had an increase of 118 usd which corresponds to almost 50% of 242 usd, so when I say buy eth is better than mine, you trolls must pay attention.
His post stated that he would roi in 6 months, so 50% is 3 months, pay attention that his earnings also increased too as eth values more but still a bit around 5 months and some days to roi.
Anyway, this is a very interesting observation.
Also, on that same note that my ROI time has now decreased for these GPUs. Really wish I could have gotten them early March/April. Now I'm in a frantic race to get these up and running to acquire ETH during this bullrun. Wasn't really part of my plan  |
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2400w Delta Plt PSU. Ran these for well over a year 24/7 mining without any problems. Pushed them right to 2400w as well and still ran. Excellent Server PSUs and exactly what you need. |
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There is a way to get Inspector to work, but it's not 100% and you have to use older drivers 399.24
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Recently some P106 mining cards have gone up for sale locally for only $55 (sale!).
I'm thinking of buying a few pieces but my concern is will they work with newer NVIDIA drivers? Specifically NVIDIA driver versions 400+?
If i remember correctly the P106 mining drivers were only using NVIDIA driver version 380-391.
Can't find any answers from google but does anyone have any experience making these work (specifically adjusting clock/power settings with newer drivers)?
I don't want to downgrade drivers because i'm also mining with some new RTX 2060s and likely these need the new NVIDIA drivers.
Yes, all newer drivers work with P106/104/102. I have P104-100 running Nv 430 drivers fine. Just note that NVinspector does not work on P106-100 due to them running in SMI mode. Claymore new straps also work for these, but it's going to be trial and error. for my P104s I'm using -STRAP 4 getting 2 extra Mh/s |
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The fact that it crashes with 'one gpu less' really sounds like a PCI-E Riser or MOtherboard PCI-E issue. I think what happening is when it tries to start that GPU it crashes because it's not getting the information across normally or it's losing signal.
Try Running the Claymore 14.7 miner ONE gpu at a time until the DAG is created and it does a few hashes. Shut down, plug in the next GPU and same thing. Repeat until you find the GPU/Riser that's crashing the system.
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CLAYMORE STUCK AFTER START
Who is the magic wizard that can help me out,
I have been going to all posts, but I cant get a suitable solution for my problem with Claymore 12.0. Tried everything.
Later versions of claymore give me the Can not create DAG file, problem. Which is said to be a virt mem problem. (i ve put the virt mem to even 50GB, and even tried 80GB) went throught the CHKDSK /f /r solutions and sata AHCI controller driver solutions.
Or I get a video TDR failure, which should be a driver issue.
I cant figure out why half of my miners suddenly are stuck... and the rest are working fine... ? exactelly same BIOS setup, same CPU, same DDR. Both miners are in every way: an exact clone.
Throuble shooting:
swapped all risers with GPUs from the working one to the one that stucks.
i went through BIOS, 4G is on. tried GEN1 and GEN2....GEN AUTO (the working miner is actually even on GEN AUTO)
But...
So when i swap the SSD only from the working RIG to the exact same RIG, that isnt working... claymore gets stuck again....
Tried to restart / reload windows 6 times.
With first having 1 GPU, and adding everytime an extra one.
I have a 6 GPU 1080TI card, with the latest Nvidia drivers installed, (used DDU, took the Latest Nvidea driver, and as well tried 425.1 and 430.86)
Asrock BTC pro 2.0 board latest Bios update with the 4g decoding option which is ON) , with 16GB DDR, intel i5 4core processor. 256 samsung EVO SSD.
setx GPU_FORCE_64BIT_PTR 0
setx GPU_MAX_HEAP_SIZE 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_SINGLE_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool us1.ethermine.org:4444 -ewal 0xc20ca97592ecfbd89a86df556b7784376a672e30.miner1 -epsw x -dpool stratum+tcp://lbry.suprnova.cc:6256 -dwal my.miner1 1 -dpsw x -dcoin lbc
what on earth can it be? what am i over seeing wrong for the last weeks?
wont make sence why same hardware works with one miner and not with the other one. I tried swappin SSD, or cloning an IMG file.
Any help Would be Appreciated, and rewarded from my side!!
Are you overclocking at all? and Have you tried 14.7? This Linux or Windows? by stuck do you mean the Miner freezes or does your computer lock-up? |
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I think people are offloading their ethereum mining gear before they go pos. Mining gear will flood the market around that time so you'll have trouble selling them afterwards
Pos = death for eth. Do I think op was smart. No as he has 10 cent power. But if he pulls it off good for him. Thanks. Still hoping to pull it off lol! When Ethereum goes PoS that will be the BIG question considering how many GPUs are mining it. Are those farms going to shut-down? how much GPU-mining power is going to mirgrate. This is things I'm thinking of. But we don't know till it happens. So I'll keep my farm running until then and play a 'wait and see' Maybe you should try to specify the value for each GPU
eg: 3x GPU used parameter -strap 1@2100,2@2000,3@1900
it means 1st GPU used strap #1 with a memory clock 2100 Mhz, 2nd GPU used strap #2 with MC 2000 Mhz and 3rd GPU used strap #3 with MC 1900 MHz. You can play with strap index and memory clock values for getting the best hashrate and maybe avoid crashes. The higher strap index (strap 1) supports higher MC than strap index 2 (You can learn it from readme.txt in your claymore folder)
Yeah, I've tried everything in the Readme, what happens is as soon as reads the memory type "Applying best Straps for POLE4"(for example) and once it hits the 2nd GPU GPU 0, GPU 1, then bam Computer crashes with a black-screen and reboots itself. This happens when the 6th GPU(or more) is added. 5 GPUs work normally. So far still at a loss of what causes it. ill take a video and post it later today. |
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How have you set up your motherboard's bios? Are you using PCIe Gen1/2/Auto?
The motherboard is setup like so: PCI-E GEN 2 all, Use onboard IGP, POWER-ON, Security settings Disabled, What AMD driver are you using? Make sure you do anything but install Wattman, that piece of crap has nothing to do on your system.
AMD 19.5.1 also tried 19.6.1. Correct I only installed AMD Driver, I don't use Wattman. I use Claymore's miner to overclock the GPUs. How many AMD cards per mobo? How good/old are your risers? How strong is your PSU?
13x GPU per motherboard, this is done for Density and space purposes. I've ran 13x MSI RX580's 8GBs previously without any issues. Risers are risers? I've previously used them before in my mining setup which ran for a year +. I run a PSU/Server combo. EVGA 450w PSU to run the motherboard/SSDs etc and a Delta 2400w PSU that runs all the GPUs. I'm not saying I'm having issues there, everything mines fine using BIOs mod. Just fine tuning on what memory speeds/voltage to get them from crashing takes a little time since I've never had 4GB cards before. I just noticed in my testing(using 1 GPU) that Claymore's straps are far more effective than any BIOs mod for Elpida/Hynix 4GB's. When I BIOs modded one I noticed tons of memory errors around 2000mem clock, using claymore's STRAP feature better hashrate and same clock, but no memory errors. Obviously got me excited. |
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Well, I've played around a lot. Trying to get Claymore STRAPs to work with multiple cards So I used whatever stock BIOs were on the cards that were shipped. It crashed. Then I tried stock BIOs from Techpowerup. No difference still crashed. Right now I'm running modified BIOs using PBE and RXBOOST just to get the rigs running. I can get up to 5 GPUs working with STRAPs. Soon as I add the 6th and launch claymore with STRAP, bam hard crash right at the "Detecting best straps", and windows reboots. it doesn't matter the 6th GPU either I went one by one and it does the same thing every time. I can get -STRAPs to work if I enable it for only GPU 0 out of 13 then it works normally. If I then apply it to GPU 0,1 same thing. Crashes at "detecting best straps" After work today I plan on testing some more trying various configurations. It seems to be a Claymore, Windows, AMD Driver problem, unfortunately, I just don't know. As of right now I have 4 13x ELPIDA RX470's BIOs modded, setup, and running...or crashing. I hate BIOs mod, I'm on fairly conservative settings yet 2 are crashing. 1950mem/1125 900/900 clocks. I used the BIOs mod from here, https://1stminingrig.com/sapphire-rx-470-nitro-oc-4gb-bios-flash-mod-tutorial-hynix-elpida-samsung-micron/ I noticed 2 rig's won't Hash right with that BIOs from FirstMiningRig they get 24/26~ so that may be on what you're talking about different BIOs sizes. So I used different BIOs for those 2. Current Hashrate https://ethermine.org/miners/531E893595875098c10994dF91edF6D886aF6B63/dashboard |
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mining on windows is nothing but headache and way too much work, with the number of riggs you are dealing with is a full time job and than some. the down time alone will eat up your profit quickly if i were you i would look into some linux distros like ethos smos.
i am a hobby miner IT guy myself and been testing mmpOS and i really like it it's been super stable for my AMD cards
Best of luck!
about your power cost, is it 10 cents or 1 cent?
most power companies in US charge extra premium after 1000KW or so, is yours a fixed amount?
It's a fixed amount but PA is weird They charge a 'supplier rate' and 'Distribution rate' So while my Supplier rate is .04599c/Kw hr the distribution is what it costs to get that power to my house. So my total is .10C/kw. There is no Seasonal rate or anything. Claymore straps are fine, 32 mh/s for my Micron babies with Claymore straps is the best I could ever get from them.
I wish all the luck to the topic starter, 10c per kWh doesn't sound attractive though
How many GPUs do you have per rig using Claymore straps? I can't get more than 5 to work. No idea why. I am really sorry to disappoint you now, but I am running 12 AMD GPU rig almost with no problems. Uptime is around 6 days. Using Windows (as it's free and straps are working; once strap function is available in HiveOS I might switch to it). My setup is a little different though; MOBO is Gigabyte's upd: I re-checked your first post and haven't found anything about your MOBO lol. I had a feeling you use different one or mentioned it in some other post.. w/e my piece of advice is to distinguish each GPU's bios and put GPUs with the same bios in the same rig. This would help you to flash them much easier. The motherboard I have is an Asrock H110 PRO BTC+ Of course, I've done this. Each rig is separated by memory type. Samsung/Hynix/Elpida. Strange that you don't have this issue. Wonder if it's something to do with the motherboard then? |
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mining on windows is nothing but headache and way too much work, with the number of riggs you are dealing with is a full time job and than some. the down time alone will eat up your profit quickly if i were you i would look into some linux distros like ethos smos.
i am a hobby miner IT guy myself and been testing mmpOS and i really like it it's been super stable for my AMD cards
Best of luck!
about your power cost, is it 10 cents or 1 cent?
most power companies in US charge extra premium after 1000KW or so, is yours a fixed amount?
It's a fixed amount but PA is weird They charge a 'supplier rate' and 'Distribution rate' So while my Supplier rate is .04599c/Kw hr the distribution is what it costs to get that power to my house. So my total is .10C/kw. There is no Seasonal rate or anything. Claymore straps are fine, 32 mh/s for my Micron babies with Claymore straps is the best I could ever get from them.
I wish all the luck to the topic starter, 10c per kWh doesn't sound attractive though
How many GPUs do you have per rig using Claymore straps? I can't get more than 5 to work. No idea why. |
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