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361  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Atlant does not want to pay participants in the atlant bounty campaigns on: November 25, 2017, 11:04:46 AM
He is so bad and have too bad attitude. All atlant member also shows very bad attitude. They are very kind before ico. After end of ico and they collected money almost 7 million they act like scammer. And i think yhey are the real scammer. In their blog says jullian will be in florida. I hope some one cacth him in florida. This kind of scam must be stoped. Must have deter effect so no one repeated it again.
This makes me chuckle. Atlant members who are saying good things about the ICO, most of them doesn't really mean anything nor they take time to research what the project is all about. Basically, you can tell that most of the time they are just doing it to spam and increase their post count. As expected, when the campaign ends, they want their token right away (very demanding) and as it gets delayed they will go wilder and those who are patient have lost it.

Atlant, on the other hand, seems joyed with the money they acquired. Funny that they don't think of their precious and beloved participants of their bounty program. The optimistic and active to reply with the concerns of their bounty participants and investors alike had subsided.


Most of people who positive with this project because CEO of the project ever shows up in conference. And yes they mess with the math. I accept it if they pay the bounty base on percentage they collected. And also the dev holding coin must be percentage base on money they collected. They dont even capable making website in wordpress and they taking down the team picture from their website. Thats prety dumb move.

I can not access to their spread sheet 2 or 3 days after ico end and after they lock it up they announce that they will finish accounting on sstake in three weeks. But yesterdayfrogman announce the changed. I told them i will help them counting if they dont have time. But i was kicked from their telegram..hahaha.
362  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟🌟🚀[BOUNTY][ICO]ATLANT REAL ESTATE PLATFORM[OFFICIAL CAMPAIGN]🚀🌟�� on: November 25, 2017, 09:59:36 AM


Nicely done. Scamer like frogman did not deserve here in this forum. The campaign is 2 and half month. They collected 7 million dollar. And now they want exit scam and took all of token for them. So he can manipulate the market. Julian will be in florida i hope some one cacth that guy there. Or anybody knows this frogman ?
363  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Atlant does not want to pay participants in the atlant bounty campaigns on: November 25, 2017, 09:56:40 AM
He is so bad and have too bad attitude. All atlant member also shows very bad attitude. They are very kind before ico. After end of ico and they collected money almost 7 million they act like scammer. And i think yhey are the real scammer. In their blog says jullian will be in florida. I hope some one cacth him in florida. This kind of scam must be stoped. Must have deter effect so no one repeated it again.
364  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Altcoins Under $1 on: November 25, 2017, 05:19:57 AM
Invest in crypterium. It is ongoing ico with 15% bonus untill 28 november. The feature is so damned good. NfC. We need nfc wallet also the roadmap is very clear. If you want coin under $10 but has a big potential youcan buy genesis vision ( GVT ) on binance. It is also the most underrrated ico. They are very good attitude. Dont buy ATL...it is scam project. Probably will goes in to exit scam.
365  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Your opinion: which coin could be shorterm 10x on: November 25, 2017, 05:09:14 AM
The easiest coin could go 10x is exscudo and in the short time is genesis vision. It has been 3x ico price now. With only 4.4 mill coin issued and 3.8 mill coin in ciscullatiin it is ez for them to get 10x and when alpha platform launch it is ez 20x.
And crypterium also will goes up. But maybe 6x ico price.
However its just my prediction. Do it with your own risk
366  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Newbie mau minta masukan tentang tradIng altcoin on: November 24, 2017, 03:31:37 AM
Kebanyakan orang yg trading harian di altcoin yg lose karna ga liat volume dan ga analisa fundamental ya. Dan cuma ikut2an hype ketika bullish. Kalo bahasa orang luarnya FOMO alias fear of missing out alias takut ketinggalan. Kalo agan trading nya coba di buat sekali sebulan di alt atau sekali seminggu. Tanpa dengerin troll box. Dan selalu beli altcoin waktu turun bukan pas naik. Kalo pas naik ya pas agan beli pas waktunya turun. Itu yg bikin nyangkut2.
367  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Bitcoin Sarana Investasi Yang Cocok Di Indonesia Karna Tidak Kena Pajak on: November 24, 2017, 03:25:22 AM
Bukan itu juga. Kalo pun alasannya ga kena pajak. Kalo agan nyairin dari vip ke akun bank agan. Nanti juga kena telpon sama orang pajak. Bitcoin itu kayak investasi di emas jaman dulu kala. Jadi ya pajak mah tetap bayar aja. Sebenernya lebih kepada kejujuran masinh2 individualnya. Yg di takutin nanti kalo udah ada yg ketangkep pajak satu orang pasti merembet gan ke yg lain.
368  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Singapura dan Korea Selatan tolak Bitcoin on: November 24, 2017, 03:23:20 AM
Singapore ga nge banned. Singapore cuman ngelarang citizennya untuk ga ikut2an ICO. Itu aja dan di singapore kan ada bitcoin atm dan mesin bitcoin untuk beli bitcoin. Walau bagaimana pun negara2 tersebut ga bisa ngehentiin bitcoin dan turunannya. Karna memang susah gan. Jadi ga usah khawatir sama berita2 begini2an.
369  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: kegelisahan para Members bitcoin on: November 24, 2017, 02:09:58 AM
1. Makin ketat itu bagus, dan itu ulah kita2 sendiri yang asal2an mengikuti bounty. Mau bayaran tapi ga mau kerja sedikit keras, sedikit berfikir.
2.bounty lama gada masalah kalo hasilnya bagus. Dan para bounty hunter bisa kasih kontribusi terbaik dan yang sudah2 bayarannya juga akan banyak kok.
3. Makin banyak makin bagus. Yang akun2 ikutan bounty yg sampah2 makin susah untuk ikut bounty. Yang rakus dan bego akan tersingkirkan sendiri. Baik untuk dunia bounty.
370  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Ingat Bitcoiners Indonesia Yang Lain on: November 24, 2017, 02:06:14 AM
Itu lah orang bego yang ga ngerti apa2 tenyang signature campaign dan akhirnya jadi rakus. Biar tau rasa. Itu karna kerakusan dia sendiri. Yang lain juga jangan kayak gitu. Knapa jadi oranh terlalu rakus ? Gw pun sangat mengutuk orang kayak gitu. Ok lah lo pada punya multiple akun. Tapi ya jangan satu campaign. Apa sih yang ada di otaknya. Tolong yg baru...yang beli2 akun. Tolong di jaga lah nama indonesia. Emang mau lo pada di banned dari bounty2 campaign ? Tolong lebih bijak. Jangan Goblok !!!!
371  Local / Mining (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Ant miner vs PC Miner on: November 24, 2017, 02:03:14 AM
Tergantung peruntukannya.

Kalo agan mau mining altcoin lebih baik beli GPU gan. Karna kalo  agan pakek GPU kalo nanti koinnya sudah susah di tambang agan masih bisa jual GPU nya. Kalau agan mau mining bitcoin mustahil agan kuat nunggu mining bitcoin kalo cuman pakek pc atau GPU karna hashing nya jauh di banding asic dari antminer. Kelemahan dari asic antminer. Kalo difficulty mining bitcoin sudah sangat susah atau sangat tinggi itu antminer udah ga bisa di apa2in. Dan sudah susah di jual nya lagi.
372  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Kenapa orang mulai beralih ke bitcoin ketimbang alat pembayaran yg virtual? on: November 22, 2017, 08:27:51 AM
Orang yang bener2 bitcoin enthusiast sebenernya karna capek ketipu2 sama bank. Bank itu centralised makanya kita ga pernah tau bank itu beneran sehat apa ga. Dan lagi bitcoin itu peer to peer tanpa adanya pihak ketiga dan realtime. Apa lagi kalo yg mau kirim duit ke daerah afrika dan daerah yg ongkos transfer nya mahal banget. Masa agan mau kirim duit 100$ biaya $50 ga kan ? Nah bitcoin solusinya. Walopun sekarang biaya transaksi bitcoin memang udah rada mahal. Tapi tetap jauh di bawah pengiriman2 kayak wu dan yg lain2...
373  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: exchanger termurah on: November 22, 2017, 08:23:38 AM
Exchanger termurah masih vip gan. Dan tingkat likuiditasnya paling tinggi ya di vip karna volume perhari nya udah tinggi. Emang agan mau fee semurah apa lagi ? Vip itu udah murah dan standart lah gan. Kalo mau yg gratis ada tuh di exchanger2 luar tapi ya resiko gede. Apa lagi kalo duit yg agan tradingin gede. Mending di vip aja. Exchanger kan harus bayar sewa server gan dan sewa server ga murah. Exchanger servernya harus bagus karna banyak transaksi kan. Kalo sampe nge lag kan bahaya.
374  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: bagaimana cara bermain cepat dalam trading ? on: November 22, 2017, 08:20:04 AM
Cara tercepat kalo mau trading ada technik scalping gan namanya. Agan ambil jual belinya dikit2 aja. Scalping paling bagus pakek bot. Scalping pakek bot jngn di lakukan kalo lagi news. Arbitrage juga bagus. Jadi kita ambil selisih dari satu exchange ke exchange lain. Itu juga pakek bot dan modal juga lebih besar dri scalping. Karna kita harus tarok koin di bbrp exchanger.
375  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Gambaran tentang Bitcoin on: November 22, 2017, 08:16:47 AM
Bitcoin adalah store of value selayaknya emas. Yang berbeda hanya fisiknya saja. Kalo emas keliatan fisiknya kalo bitcoin berupa catatan atau ledger. Kalau menurut saya bitcoin justru lebih bagus dari emas. Karna semua perputarannya bisa di kontrol sama semua orang dan kita bisa liat semuanya. Kalau emas kan kita ga bisa tau ada berapa banyak emas sebenernya di dunia ini. Selagi internet hidup bitcoin akan lebih praktis dan aman dari pada emas.
376  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: TIPS untuk mengamankan AKUN BITCOINTALK ? on: November 22, 2017, 08:14:31 AM
Bikin password yang ga gampang ketebak gan.
Bikin lain passwordnya sama password email agan.
Jangan pernah asal klik link. Takutnya link phissing.
Setiap mau log in dan masukin password agan check beberapa kali dulu URL nya, beneran bitcoin talk atau bukan.

Gw rasa dengan begitu aja akun kita bakalan aman dari hack.
377  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Membuat Komunitas Nyata BTT on: November 22, 2017, 08:11:55 AM
Silahkan gan malahan bagus. Mungkin dari sering2 meet up trus ketemu berbagai orang dengan berbagai skill dan akhirnya bisa bikin project asli indonesia. Kalo ane sih dukung meet up2 selagi ujung2nya positive. Yang di jakarta ada banyak kah ? Ane liat2 soalnya malahan yg dari daerah2 ya. Dri bali. Medan . Jawa tengah
378  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Kerja apa bitcoin dan trading on: November 22, 2017, 08:10:28 AM
Sebenernya sangat bisa sekali kalau agan sudah pengalaman di forex trading. Malahan di crypto lebih kebaca pergerakannya. Dan untuk tambah2an agan bisa juga ikut2 bounty dari twitter sampe ke blog. Bisa kok gan. Tapi yg sudah punya kerjaan tetap ga usah resign. Tahanin aja dulu sampe modal cukup untuk usaha sendiri
379  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ASK?]Mengapa Kebanyakan Asset/Token Yg Beredar Berplatform Ethereum? on: November 17, 2017, 11:34:27 AM
Alasan terbesar adalah karna smart contract ethereum menggunakan turing completed alias bisa di modifikasi gimana2 aja kemauan dan kebutuhan dari project masing-masing. Dan juga ethereum di percaya karna mereka punya aliansi yg bergabung di dalamnya perusahaan2 monster. Kalo menurut pendapat gw pribadi ya karna bisa full modifikasi tergantung kebutuhan.
380  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Outperform Bitcoin on: November 17, 2017, 09:47:22 AM
Many altcoin outperform bitcoin but no coin will beat it in marketcap. Why ? Because no coin can replace it. Its all not about technologies but believe. Many people only believe in bitcoin yea there is some alt mooning. But sometimes its only pump created by whale to grab your bitcoin. If you hold much bitcoin and still want to devirsify your investment. Just dont sell your bitcoin below 50%. Use only 50% of your bitcoin to trade in alt or to invest in very good project.
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