Funny thing, the first batches performed 450-480gh at 1900w.  The "free" units I got recently, ya pieces of shit.  1 hash board works in both units.

The dev acting the way he does and disappearing for 6 months a time is what killed this coin.  He obviously plans nothing more for the coin nor helps with anything.  I got us on 2 exchanges in the past and I'm done helping since there doesn't seem to be much of a future left for this coin.  If we were at least on a exchange it would be different but it's to the point of just letting it stake and be worthless at the moment lol.

My m20's finally are running and doing well.  The company itself is what went down south this year.  They dropped the ball hard.  I won't be buying whatsminer next year unless in stock ships same week.  Never doing a preorder with them again after this drama.

LOL they can barely deliver their m20 and m20s's on time.  Idiots.  I'm sure it will be a idiotic (PREORDER NOW, 8 MONTHS DELIVERY) and you will get it 2 months late.  By that time bitmain will have 20J miner out and lower price.  Yea, screw whats miner.  My m20's are finally arriving tomorrow...that I ordered in July.

Canaan is great but there specs of miners just haven't been great lately.  I'm just tired of all these mining companies releasing miners and specs for a 5month preorder when bitmain usually has it on hand or same month.  Sorry, done giving these companies money, they also rarely give compensation even though many people lose thousands due to their incompetence.

Still have heard of no one with a m20 45th and mine still has not shipped.  Yea, done ordering gear from whatshitminer.  Nice chunk of money wasted thanks to this company.  First strongu, now whatsminer.  Hope they all go out of business at this rate and bitmain is the only one left.  At this point they all deserve it.

I will continue to hold too, since I CAN'T EVEN SELL since I am from usa and we don't have any usa exchanges even to sell on, rather than have volume.  This coin could have been extremely good, but the lack of development and horrendous marketing took a toll.

I got mine first week of november actually.  The miner itself at least for me (I have been hearing it's very different for other people and specs are way different) has been good and reliable.  I am getting 500-520gh avg at 1900w.  No clue why as others are getting less than advertised gh and more power use.  The miner itself is alright.  The company is horrendous and I would avoid ever buying from strongu in the future.

I honestly think it's time to say this coin is dead.  I am done helping and getting on exchanges and doing all this work for a dev that is not willing to do ANYTHING for there own coin themselves and disappears 10 months a time out of the year.  We have no volume, 0 exchanges to ACTUALLY trade on and that's a bottom line fact.  No usa trading = worthless.  We have no news in months, we have no new website or advancement in what is to be expected for future, nothing.  Sorry, I'll let the stuff sit in the wallet for now but I have been trying to help as well as a few others now for almost 2 years we are on and all that has occurred is dev absence and coin growth and price dropping to extreme lows.  This coin could have been something fantastic and has amazing potential, but with the leadership it currently has, it will 100% go no where and just keep going down more and more on the non usa exchanges it's even left on.

Exactly, and end of day, if both are around same price, the efficiency is main point.  Not to mention bitmain, has been delivering pretty much dead on time all year long.  Whatsminer... well, not so much.  1 month delay would toss your earnings to hell right off the bat.

Yea lol nope.  Not efficient enough to justify that price considering bitmain t17 is more efficient and way less money, and accepts paypal.  You would have to be crazy to buy from microbt currently.  They can't deliver the current units on time but want to add more to sell?  Yea.. big no from me.

Yea I am in same boat.  I have m20's on order, the 45th model as well, and I have yet to see anyone get them nor hear about shipping.  Whatsminer has some good miners and very reliable but I doubt I will be ordering again based off this.  I'm sticking to bitmain.  1 month of downtime because of the miners I ordered not running was a good amount of money to me and it seems like no compensation is being offered.  The same price of whatsminers I can get bitmain miners in stock ship same day practically.  Very piss poor management this time around from microbt.

Yea for sure lol.  I only got till next friday then I will file a claim.  I just wanna make sure they can't say oh it's still October we have time to ship per agreement or something.  Still no updates from people, they literally are not shipping these miners lately and give no information on a delay or why a delay or how long of a delay is anymore.  They don't even say what batch they are on due to ship.

Well October isn't over yet so it wouldn't be right for me to do anything just yet since I am indeed October batch.  I just have a gut feeling nothing for October batch is shipping anytime soon is my point.  I don't want to file until October ends though otherwise they can say (Well it's still October so we have time to ship) or some excuse like that.  I'm waiting for a reply to see if my reseller can get a refund through them, pango, and microbt to see what a final answer is.  The u6 is another story of miners I am waiting on which I will likely be ALSO filing a claim with that since it's essentially a bait and switch scam.  Great month for my miners orders...  

I was talking to logistics department and there and telegram keeps avoiding answering the question of m20 45th model.  If I don't hear a answer on if these fucking miners are being delivered by end of month I'm disputing a fraud charge with my credit card and getting a refund since I purchased through alibaba for this exact protection.  Bitmain now accepts paypal, and delivers on time.  This is becoming a joke.  I seriously do not think a single person received a 45th m20 unit from even Aug. batch yet!!

No one has STILL received or seen a m20 45th model.  Man I wish I can cancel this god damn order.

Looks like all miners are accepting paypal.  Wow, impressive.

Update:  Have seen proof of the u6 running.  It is 2000w at 440-460gh.  This is literally the definition of bait and switch scam.  No where near the specs we ordered.  This is becoming a joke. 55% more power draw and 35% less hash rate than what we ordered is utterly unacceptable.  Not even talking about the 4 month delay.

That's really weird considering they are sitting in stock relatively cheap all over china resellers for that model.  Email them, maybe they "forgot" to ship your miner.

Yea I'm just fed up.  I'm officially done preordering from any company other than bitmain, and only a month in advance anymore.  I'm done with this bullshit china company tactics that is obviously a "Oh shit bitmain released a new miner uh uh uh uh duhhh duhhh uhhh let's take preorders for 6 months away for a miner we MIGHT be able to make in time and use that funding to TRY and do so!".  Strongu is the worst, they are basically a scam and fraud as far as im concerned, canaan is having ridiculous preorder waits, Feb, March, like... common.  Inno is completely worthless and unreliable, always delays, never on time, always over priced.  Now whatsminer is pulling this crap.     Bitmain, every miner I ordered this year from them (This year, not previous years I said) has arrived within +/- 1 week from scheduled ship date and performed better than advertised every. single. time.     I thought the t17's would be hard to get and expensive for October/November hence why I chose to grab some whatsminers, since in past they have been great miners and never had issues with ship dates.  Boy was I wrong, t17's are very easy to get, same price as whatsminers miners, and ship same/next day.  So I have these 225th, another 90th from strongu (Which I should have gotten a refund of so I may be in luck there actually) and whatever is going on with those stupid strongu u6 x11 miners yet a few of which I'm basically scratching off as lost money and a scam miner.     So, yea, I'm pretty furious and fed up with this bullshit that is being pulled by these companies this year.