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1  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Three ex-Presidents of Ukraine warned against Martial Law on: December 09, 2018, 07:08:25 PM
Ok, lets get this right those 3 ex-presidents are Pro-Russia
Saying "those 3 ex-presidents stand for Ukraine" would be more correct I guess.
The Moderator is not only Ukrainian, he supports traitorous junta that clearly put US interests over Ukrainian national ones.
First two ex-presidents are rarely suspected of sympathy to Kremlin.
2  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian act of war on: December 09, 2018, 06:41:46 PM
Hackers leaked a lot of "The Integrity Initiative" documents.
https://ru.scribd.com/document/394374538/Interim-Report

It's a British infowarfare special service, pretending to be a non-profit NGO.
Their two fronts are currently Spain and Greece, judging from the docs.
3  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate trumps wall.. on: December 04, 2018, 06:37:55 PM
Aren't these totally different things? I mean, one thing is occupying a part of another country and totally different is that you want to keep all people of colour out of your country?
The parallel I was drawing was that all four neglect/violate post-1945 borders:
1) Blowing up Yugoslavia with pumping/propping up ethnic tensions, recognition of Kosovo;
2) Blowing up USSR into 15 "States" some of them not quite full-blown ones, with only half of them really independent;
2) Refusal to recognise Russian Crimea+Sevastopol despite them being Russian in 1945 (and Sevastopol being Soviet in 1991);
3) Propaganda that all migrants should be freely admitted on US South border.

There could be more examples. The basic idea here is: transnational capital has no borders, so stop shouting about need to defend them.
4  Other / Meta / Re: Censorship and moderator-originated trolling in Russian section of this forum on: December 04, 2018, 05:42:05 PM
So maybe you should reconsider hate-speaking against Ukrainians then.
You mix hate-speech with me just listing some facts. For your analysis.
Very convenient feature of discourse, to ignore or to pretend to ignore distinctions that are not furthering your 'cause' which is to side with Ukrainians in their beastly russophobia.
To say 1) they don't have money 2) they try to scam us - both are not hate speech.
Hate speech is not an actual accusation of something, it's calls to violence and inciting animosity.
I am not calling to violence because they are dirt-poor and many of them here are scammers or shills.
I will quote examples of them speaking here, watch this space.
Right now they are threatening to homosexually rape me for pointing out that they suggest introducing an Ex post facto law.
This was not a symmetrical response to any such wrong-doing from me.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4655517.msg48447908#msg48447908
I am sure steklomoy is a moderator's sockpuppet. But nobody will be investigating it. Nobody gives a shit.

A couple of moderator's sockpuppets are discussing how they, after a successful Coloured revolution in Russia, will punish those who stand for it's national interests: by raping them homosexually or by executing them.
This portrays them either as kids not realising what they are doing and what consequences that may have, or as grown up oligophrenes without education and basic decency. I'd rather hope they are kids, so they had a chance to change their ways.

My point is: the situation with Russian-speaking moderator is not sustainable. With time, it will degenerate into something even more ugly. I have warned you, make your own conclusions anyone who cares.
5  Local / Политика / Re: ✔ "Кремлевские тролли" on: December 04, 2018, 03:30:01 PM
У путинойдов есть такая статья, как "публичное оправдание терроризма". Так вот, после смены власти надо сделать статью "публичное оправдание путина и путинщины".
Чтобы ни одна падла, которая сейчас оправдывает главного террориста, не ускреблась от наказания.
Ты хоть сам понял что написал?
Предлагаешь их расстрелять по закону, принятому уже после событий?
Так делали в СССР с "валютчиками", ввели закон, потом расстреляли.
6  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian act of war on: December 04, 2018, 03:05:50 PM

Except what if Ukraine bought energy from the European-United States global power grid instead of importing gas/oil from Russia? That's cripple the Russian economy even more.

How losing a badly mannered and badly behaved customer who constantly reneges on payment obligations, spreads russophobia (better to say: trades in it) would cripple Russian economy, especially after Turkish stream already started?

European-United States global power grid - what is that? Buying Yamal gas on our Far North and delivering to Poland in tankers?
Or bringing Qatar gas and saying "it's American"?

To pass electricity on that hypothetical grid, one needs to generate it first.

2nd question: how Ukraine will pay for that energy, with it's deforestation selling all it's trees, or by selling even more russophobia and buying even more weapons?

Ukraine cannot be even properly privatized, because of Nazi batallions of far-right schizos roaming it freely. It's worse there than it was in the 90-ies in Russia.

America has complete and utter sea and air superiority from a military perspective. There is no nation in this world that can stand against the mighty naval and air capacities of the United States.
Except... Syria? How all this helped to overthrow Asad?
7  Other / Meta / Re: Censorship and moderator-originated trolling in Russian section of this forum on: December 04, 2018, 02:34:57 PM
I do not see how getting rid of off-topic comments/replies will lead to a ban of the forum in Russia,its a laughable one really,are Russian citizens gonna be banned or our domain name banned in Russia..
What was not clear?
Why off-topic? He just deletes whatever he doesn't like.
Moderator (not "moderators") has 6 sockpuppets one of them posing as another "moderator".
He trolls and spews vitriolic insults at various users, from under those sockpuppets, with tons of hate speech, I will post translations here when I have a spare minute.
Because of hate speech laws (that exist not only in Russia, hate speech is a crime in UK as well) this forum can be banned.
Or, if sockpuppets really are what they claim (they claim to be Russian citizens - therefore the puppet master claims to be one) they/him can be prosecuted. Or both.

Some state that moderators of the Russian section support users who love Putin. Others claim that we are Ukrainian nationalists. Still others shout that we sell themselves to the Americans. Funny. As a rule, these are written by those who are themselves radical. They do not like that their posts (topics) that violate the rules are removed. Therefore, they try by any means to ignite cross-national enmity.
It's not about love or hate of Putin or US-Russia conflict on Ukrainian territory.
It's about ample amounts of hate speech moderator leaves intact, on one hand;
and censoring of any constructive thought that he doesn't like, on another.
By doing that persistently, he attracts trolls like him to the forum and repels clever, informed members of crypto-anarchist community who happen to be Russian without the "we are Europe" disease.

This is all very funny. Cheesy We in Russia still telegram and VPN are unable to block. All people use telegram via VPN. Even if they add bitcointalk.org in the list of banned sites, it won't change anything.
This is a funny attitude indeed on your side.
The driving cause for most of the anti-Russian shitposting is "signature scams". You can regurgitate same russophobia without any conscious effort, while shilling some ICO scam in your signature.
Ukraine, like other countries, is full of ICO scammers, like Boris Shulyaev, to name one.
So lots of people here are shilling those scams in their "signatures". While spitting hatred at other Russians, in the process.
As Ukrainians in general have no money, those scammers work (partially) for the Russian market of gullible "investors".
For many of those Russian-speaking hapless potential "investors", a RosComNadzor ban would be a barrier enough to participate in those ICOs.
LOSS OF PROFIT for Boris and his numerous shills.
Figure it out.
8  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian act of war on: December 04, 2018, 02:11:28 PM

Russia lists 49th. South Korea lists 22nd.

Germany lists 5th.
That was my entire point, the joint resources of the "Free World" were used post-WWII to build up Bundesrepublik and S.Korea.
S.Korea was for China's admiration, while Western Germany was for Eastern Europe and USSR.
The West took Ukraine from USSR in 1991. So where are it's riches?

I'm fairly certain if "capitalist" west took over Ukraine, the quality of life would increase dramatically for the average Ukrainian. The Iron Curtain nation states were an entire failure, just like the USSR.
I'll tell you a secret: that would be the least of Putin's concerns. A huge, rich neighbour buying natural gas and petrol at world prices, without trying to cheat every January, would be always good.
Even rocket launching sites on land would be not as bad: a rocket launched from land can be intercepted not far from the launching site.
The scary thing was NATO occupation of Crimea and uncontrolled military ships traffic in Black Sea because of that: a rocket launched from a ship has a chance to succeed.
So seriously speaking, when Odessa will fall, this direction of attack on Russia can be abandoned all together. Either fall of Odessa, or Turkey becoming outwardly anti-Ango-Saxon.
But there are 4 or 5 more directions. Question is, can US engage all or most of them at once.
9  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian act of war on: December 04, 2018, 01:38:41 PM
Perhaps America can start training Ukrainians on how to fight well.
UK, US, Australia and Canada are doing that since 2013. It's not helping apparently.

I wasn't speaking of "mercenaries" by the way, those get paid by multinationals so it's difficult to say whose losses they are.

And why do you think Russia can afford 5:1 losses in 2018-2019 Ukrainian campaign? To achieve what?
Just because you are sure that was kind of losses it had in WWII?
Does Ukraine have, umm, natural resources, or vaults full of gold, or rich debtors around the world with collateral and hostages ensuring repayment?
Or is your reasoning "Russia will invade Ukraine because:.."
Putin will avenge fall of USSR that way;
Putin will prevent Ukraine being turned into a "shiny example of the capitalist way of development", like West Germany and South Korea after WWII? That turning into a shop window-pane has patently failed without him, during last 4 years.

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Huh; didn't know Ukrainians were that shitty of fighters
That's actually irrelevant. They are not "defending homeland", they are sent to kill civilians of Donbass who revolted against Poroshenko's dictatorship.
And the dictator cannot admit that taxi drivers and coal miners fend off his armies counting in tens of thousands.
And cannot catch any Armed Forces from Russia, not a single one, not only him, but UN could not do that as well.

Also, a little known fact, when they were surrounded near Ilovaysk or Debaltsevo, they were given option to abandon their military vehicles, put down arms and get out alive. This was done in Syria all the time, and militants disarmed and escaped to retrain with Western instructors and get better weapons and ammunition, and assault Asad again with fresh zeal.
The Ukrainian commanders in that situation preferred to attempt to break out. So they valued vehicles more than human lives.
10  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian act of war on: December 04, 2018, 01:05:47 PM
I hope the Russian troops get rekt by Ukraine soldiers. I'm willing to bet for each Ukrainian soldier defending their homeland, it'll take 5 Russians to kill.
Oh yeah.
For every 1 Donetsk and Lugansk militant killed, it was more like 10 Ukrainian soldiers lost in 2014-2015.
By international law, a Commander in Chief that faces such heavy losses has to capitulate to prevent further loss of population.
So after having lost around 40000 Poroshenko stopped his offensives.

Let me remind you that combat-related losses of Armed Forces of Russia, excluding various "private companies" and volunteers, are exactly 0 (zero) so far in and around Ukraine. So who has most to lose?
11  Local / Политика / Re: ✔ "Кремлевские тролли" on: November 28, 2018, 07:13:43 PM
Ты писал что в Лондоне путанил, у тебя там не сложилось и ты пошёл в мусора, потому что ничего не умеешь, а кушать всё время хочется.
Ты запутался, где и что писал.
Я работаю у тебя психоаналитиком.
Часть работы психоаналитика - рассказывать "сказочки" (это термин такой) чтобы у пациента был прогресс.
И ещё я праноед, так что про "кушать всё время" тоже мимо.
12  Other / Meta / Censorship and moderator-originated trolling in Russian section of this forum on: November 28, 2018, 07:09:51 PM
Leonid Kravchuk (in office 1991 – 1994), Leonid Kuchma (1994 – 2005) and Viktor Yushchenko (2005 – 2010) all made statements against Martial Law because of Kerch strait incident.
The Ukrainian national who moderates Russian "Politics" on this forum censors this info out.
This along with his other abuses can lead to blocking of this forum in Russia, which currently constitutes 12% of web requests to this forum.
Please decide whether you really need such a moderator, controlling 6 sockpuppets who troll and censor people on this forum.
If you use the Russian section and observed similar things, please append your findings.
13  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Three ex-Presidents of Ukraine warned against Martial Law on: November 28, 2018, 07:04:07 PM
Why a new thread my Russian comrade? We already had a thread for this; you could have appended it.

Also; bitching about forum actions doesn't belong here.
Your thread title reads "Russian act of war" - maybe that's why?
14  Other / Politics & Society / Three ex-Presidents of Ukraine warned against Martial Law on: November 28, 2018, 06:59:36 PM
Leonid Kravchuk (in office 1991 – 1994), Leonid Kuchma (1994 – 2005) and Viktor Yushchenko (2005 – 2010) all made statements against Martial Law because of Kerch strait incident.
The Ukrainian national who moderates Russian "Politics" on this forum censors this info out.
This along with his other abuses can lead to blocking of this forum in Russia, which currently constitutes 12% of web requests to this forum.
Please decide whether you really need such a moderator, controlling 6 sockpuppets who troll and censor people on this forum.
15  Local / Политика / Re: ✔ "Кремлевские тролли" on: November 28, 2018, 06:08:11 PM
Вполне вероятно, видно что вся эта шушара заёрзала, видимо чувствуют что пиздец особенно близок и как сказал один человек, "бактерии не ошибаются".
Конкретизируй понятие "пиздец". Появление Бабченко на танке Абрамс посреди манежной?
Китайцы учащиеся в НГУ? Сепаратизм на Дальнем Востоке? Может ещё есть какие мифологемы, а вата-то не в курсе?

Ну для начала, приходишь ты в кассу получить оплату за свою работу кремлеботом, а тебе говорят что денег нет и надо затянуть поясок. Получаешь ты зарплату на основной работе и понимаешь что не сможешь на неё прожить по текущим ценам. Выходишь ты грустный на улицу и видишь что все вокруг поняли что происходит, а ты помогал их обманывать. Что будешь делать?
Я уже тут писал, что работодатель. Но стёрли.
Так что мне твой сценарий будет выгоден.
16  Local / Политика / Re: Как правильно? on: November 28, 2018, 06:05:37 PM
Я только один такой случай знаю, в Питере, когда у человека в 44 года политота и либерасня в голове.
Ну, в Питере я тебе и не одного покажу. Питер слегка пришибленный город, коренные питерцы инфантильны и забавны, и либеральные ценности им не чужды, особенно из магазинов Финляндии.
И это на текущем, или может скорее предшествовавшем, уровне моего развития вызывало у меня дикое умиление и чувства братской любви.
Они такие аристократы-дегенераты, привыкшие бездельничать и в 1917 (и начиная ещё с декабристов) накликавшие всилу увлечения западническими идеями на себя и царя-батюшку беду.
А потом как-то приспособились жить при власти "рабочих, солдатов, матросов и крестьян".
17  Local / Политика / Re: Оскорбить в диспуте, – русская национальн on: November 28, 2018, 06:00:55 PM
Почему плохо? Напомни и укажи источник своей информации.

Вторую часть я не понимаю, скажи простыми словами что ты пытаешься сказать.
Плохо работаешь, потому что народ всё равно Запутена.
Вторая часть: неадекватно здесь себя ведут как раз украинцы, шифрующие своих sockpuppets под "граждан РФ".
Отрицающие родство.
При этом когда у них отобрали подарок на 300-летие Вечного Союза Киевской и Московской Руси, за непослушание и предательство, они очень обиделись и побежали к взрослым дяденькам жаловаться.
18  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Kremlinbots on: November 28, 2018, 05:29:44 PM
It seems to me that intelligence operatives within the US and EU establishment cartels moved to overthrow the government of Ukraine and put in place actual open fascists... until that point Russia had no reason to "take Crimea back". However as it is Russia's only warm water port it is of critical strategic military importance, and letting it fall into the sphere of US/EU influence was unacceptable to Russia. Given as how Ukraine was never expected to be divided in this way, I am not at all shocked Russia seized Crimea as the West creeps further East.
And it looks like they (establishment cartels) want no more of the current Ukrainian President.
So they cornered him into this Martial Law mess.
But the fight to return Crimea actually began in 1954 (the decision to transfer it was dissented widely), became critical in 1991, when then President of Russia "gifted it again" along with Sevastopol (which was separate) and temporarily lost in 1994 when Ukraine restored control. However, Ukraine failed to "decommunise" and "derussify" the region, and neglected it's economy, so 20 years later it was possible to seize it.
The only people who miss "Ukrainian times" are those who were using the relative lawlessness of 1994-2014 to their advantage. They had a lot of Ukrainian tourists coming in, but Ukraine was richer and could afford vacations in Crimea in those years. Those business people earned their money during the tourist season and did nothing the rest of the year, which became difficult now.
19  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian act of war on: November 28, 2018, 05:17:51 PM

The UK still has an active military? Rofl, that's pretty surprising.

Nah, I was thinking Germany, France, and Poland.

Yall think the UK really would make that much of a difference in a EU vs Russia conventional war?
Well, Poland is pretty scare. All by herself.
Germany and France rejected idea to introduce new sanctions. And expressed concern about the Martial Law.
So it starts looking that Poroshenko either followed someone's bad advice, or engaged his military in his own stupid
poorly calculated initiative with this maritime provocation.
His rating fell anyway. Already, on the 1st day of Martial Law.
20  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian act of war on: November 28, 2018, 05:05:51 PM
If that will not happen at all (not even attempt will be made) you will say that Ukrainian army plus NATO scared the shit out of Putin.

Ukraine isn't part of NATO. Even if it were, the largest member of NATO has a Russia-agent as a leader; so doubt defenses would be allowed from NATO.

Nah, this is more a European Union issue rather than a NATO issue.
It can be EU or UK which broke away from EU due to Putin's trickery.
You will say they scared the shit out of him, after they broke away because of him.
All your reasoning is self-contradictory as it stems from MSM with their endless cognitive dissonances.
You will find the explanation, even if the reverse happens: Ukraine occupies Krasnodar and Sochi.
I am sure you will explain it away.
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