You know, buyer, i'm not sure what bothers me more -- that you're a scammer, or that you're such a stupid & inept scammer. Learn to scammer, FFS! |
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User attempted to hack my site. I have had no business dealings with the OP. He will now remove my post because I've removed more than 450 of his troll posts in my threads.
The OP is from Virginia. The same state who just shut down a major bitcoin website. I wonder if this is another avatar of the operator.
Verizon report:
[AB-xxxxxxxx] hacker in your system
96.233.24.119
DO the OP FORGOT to self moderate. LOLZ!
How do you know this is his IP address? Also, it's a rather crass to link one IP address to an entire state and then say it might be the same person. I have the server logs. He locked up my inventory and tried to steal the codes. I have the logs and that is the address who attempted the hack. The address has been reported to Verizon. I know what he did because he posted that he had done it, which made it REALLY easy to identify him. Put away those server logs. Dick and Jane is a bit hard, though still more your speed. Watch buyer squeal -- on the wrong IP!  edit: In this very thread! Go to town, champ! |
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USer attempted to hack my site. I have had no business dealings with the OP. He will now remove my post because I've removed more than 450 of his troll posts in my threads.
The OP is from Virginia. The same state who just shut down a major bitcoin website. I wonder if this is another avatar of the operator.
Buyer is delusional. I've never hacked his site, i'm not from Virginia, and i'm not associated with any major Bitcoin websites other than bitcointalk.org, this site. I understand that prohibiting sock accounts is pointless & unenforceable, though asking me to remove a post exposing him as a scammer is a bit absurd. As far as i know, there's no stated TOS for this forum, a fact exploited by scammers such as buyer, but that sword cuts both ways.  'day, buyer. edit: Buyer stated that he has reported me to my service provider. Buyer claims he's deleted 450 of my posts. Unless i've created this account exclusively for trolling him (i'll admit, he's a prime lolcow), look at my post count & decide for yourself |
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User: buyer, an established sockpuppet account, is running a self-moderated thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=224763.msg2400890#msg2400890While both sockpuppetry & thread self-moderation (threads in which OP is allowed to delete unfavorable comments) are both common & approved in these forums, buyer's aggressive exploitation of both marks him as likely scammer. While promoting (his friend's according to buyer) site ( http://sellbitcoinforcash.com/MPOut.php), he sistematically deleted all critical reviews, becoming beligirent & replying with slanderous comments, while deleting the original posts. Since my deleted posts were automatically PMed to me, they could be verified by mods, so evidence is available. The site is a scam, but fortunately this lolcow can't code for sour apples, though even this may be a part of his scam ("my site was haxxored!1") see screencap:  Edit: Lolz! "divide by zero" |
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That is within normal variance. Yeah, I saw that it can drop sharp but to me as a non miner (anymore) was and still is a puzzle. How do 10% of the people decide to power off their rigs same day  It has something to do with quantum global warming -- very scientific & dangerous. The temps don't rise, they jump. Scientist unplug their gamer boxen to stay cool. Send tips to my sig if this explanation was helpful. |
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Oldsport just removed this from two posts: Forgot to go find TradeFortress just had a bit of deja-vu
Surprised he isn't commenting or was that someone else
ROBOTIC JUSTICE!YAY: He's such a scammer. So I did some digging. Here he is having a conversation with HIMSELF (FUNNY HE CALLS OUT THE SELF-MODERATION OF THREADS, SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE IMPLEMENTING SCAMMER HABITS):  Trying to act like he and himself are not one in the same. Either he has a bad case of bipolar or the trailer park drugz have gotten to him!! DONT BUY FROM HIS SITE SELLBITCOINSFORCASH.COM!!! user: buyer actively deleting posts both in this thread and here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=224763.msg2392522#msg2392522 .Dear Sock! (you are a sock, see here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=224763.msg2368173#msg2368173) You have asked me if i'm a lawyer. I am not. Like "your friend," the crypto currency collector, i'm a collector of sorts myself. And a barterer. I collect, and barter in, LOLCOWS. And you look like you're prime for milkin'. Shall we begin? This fine specimen, from OP's site, proves that a pint of JD & a smidgen of household greed is all it takes to fashion a DIY FAQ: Frequently Asked Questions & Terms of Service Q: What is Sell Bitcoin for Cash.com? A: This is a site where people can barter Bitcoins in exchange for items that they may desire. The site is operated by a U.S. based private investor who collects Bitcoin and other crypto currencies. Smileys & boldface mine throughout -- my lolcow is still in training. -ed Q: What does Sell Bitcoin for Cash pay for Bitcoin? A: Once you start the barter process through this site you will see that I share with you the current specific purchase offer which you are free to accept or reject. I try to make the "price" fair for you and for me. If you have suggestions to improve my "pricing policy" please contact me.  Q: Is Sell Bitcoin for Cash an exchange like Mt Gox or BTC-E? A: NO. Sell Bitcoin for Cash is run by a private individual who collects Bitcoin, this site is not offering to sell any Bitcoin. I am simply a buyer of Bitcoin who wanted to offer an easy way for people to sell their crypto coins to me. My lolcow promises to be more consistent in the future, -ed Q: Is Sell Bitcoin for Cash available for anyone to use? A: NO. It is the USER'S responsibility to make sure they are compliant with all their local and state laws. If y our government says you need some special license and I do not know about that special license you cannot make me liable for YOUR mistake.  Every user agrees to be responsible for their own actions. Each and every user agrees to hold me harmless of any crime LOLZ!!! -ed or act and each and every user agrees to reverse or vacate the transaction as necessary if it is later found out that the buying of your bitcoin was illegal where you or I am. If you are from California or New York or the Commonwealth of Virginia (or any other US state or Territory) please do not attempt to transact with me. LOOOL! -ed I have no interest in your state's interpretations or misinterpretations of what money might or might not be. Do not use my site if you are an American. Or if you are in any place where selling me bitcoin for something I offer is illegal you MUST LEAVE THIS SITE IMMEDIATELY AND NEVER COME BACK until YOU are and I are both compliant with YOUR existing or currently unknown or not yet conceived of local or state laws. Q: Is Sell Bitcoin for Cash available for Americans? A: NO. See above. America is undecided about what a bitcoin may or may not be and it will take years to sort it all out. This service is for non-Americans. Sorry America you will need to find some other way to spend your hard earned bitcoins. I will not take your business if you are an American. Sorry. Please go away. I'm serious. Q: What are "MoneyPak Codes" and how are they related to a "Green Dot" Debit Card? A: In short Green Dot makes a re loadable Visa that you can refill using a code that I may sell you. The Green Dot Corporation, which I am not in any way affiliated with, makes personalized Visa cards which are sold through retail stores nationwide including 7-11, Walmart, most grocery stores and most drug stores. These Visa cards can be reloaded with a MoneyPak code which can be purchased from these very same retailers. Once the code is loaded to the card the personalized card can be used to withdraw cash from automatic teller machines at these same retailers. Q: How do I use an MP Code to refill a GD Card? A: First you'll need to purchase a Green Dot Debit Card from one of 50,000 retail locations in the USA for about $4.95. Next you'll need to REGISTER the card which is required BEFORE you can use a MP Code to reload it. After registration the personalized GD Debit Card can used just like any other debit card even allowing free cash withdrawals at thousands of ATM's. Q: Do I need a bank account to use this service? A: NO, I do not want your money and I do not send you money. I am only bartering one item for another. Q: Do I need to provide you identification or some type of private information to use this service? A: NO. At this time I do not need any type of information from you accept a bitcoin address I might use to refund a failed purchase. Q: Does Sell Bitcoin for Cash sell bitcoin? A: NO, I am only a buyer at this time. There are several places you can go to buy Bitcoin, this is a good place to start: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Buying_bitcoins Q: Why should I trust you will deliver the code? A: Happy to demonstrate my offering with a small order (~$20US). Q: Will you be offering any other methods to "cash out" of Bitcoin? A: YES. I am always seeking trustworthy methods to deliver value to fellow barterers. In fact, if you have an items you would like to barter with me please let me know! Q: Where do you get the moneyPak's you sell? A: I buy them at a local retailer and I pay cash. Q: Are you affilitated with GreenDot, Visa or 7-11 Walmart? A: NO. My only relationship with these companies is that I am customers of their products from time to time. Specifically: MoneyPAK and Green Dot are registered trademarks of the Green Dot Corportation with whom I am in no way related except that I am often a customer of their products. VISA is a registered trademark of the VISA Corportation with whom I am in no way related except that I am often a customer of their products. Walmart is a registered trademark of the Walmart Corportation with whom I am in no way related except that I am often a customer of their products. 7-11 is a registered trademark of the Southland Corportation with whom I am in no way related except that I am often a customer of their products. [/quote] user: buyer actively deleting posts both in this thread and here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=224763.msg2392522#msg2392522 .Dear Sock! (you are a sock, see here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=224763.msg2368173#msg2368173) You have asked me if i'm a lawyer. I am not. Like "your friend," the crypto currency collector, i'm a collector of sorts myself. And a barterer. I collect, and barter in, LOLCOWS. And you look like you're prime for milkin'. Shall we begin? This fine specimen, from OP's site, proves that a pint of JD & a smidgen of household greed is all it takes to fashion a DIY FAQ: Frequently Asked Questions & Terms of Service Q: What is Sell Bitcoin for Cash.com? A: This is a site where people can barter Bitcoins in exchange for items that they may desire. The site is operated by a U.S. based private investor who collects Bitcoin and other crypto currencies. Smileys & boldface mine throughout -- my lolcow is still in training. -ed Q: What does Sell Bitcoin for Cash pay for Bitcoin? A: Once you start the barter process through this site you will see that I share with you the current specific purchase offer which you are free to accept or reject. I try to make the "price" fair for you and for me. If you have suggestions to improve my "pricing policy" please contact me. Q: Is Sell Bitcoin for Cash an exchange like Mt Gox or BTC-E? A: NO. Sell Bitcoin for Cash is run by a private individual who collects Bitcoin, this site is not offering to sell any Bitcoin. I am simply a buyer of Bitcoin who wanted to offer an easy way for people to sell their crypto coins to me. My lolcow promises to be more consistent in the future, -ed Q: Is Sell Bitcoin for Cash available for anyone to use? A: NO. It is the USER'S responsibility to make sure they are compliant with all their local and state laws. If y our government says you need some special license and I do not know about that special license you cannot make me liable for YOUR mistake. Every user agrees to be responsible for their own actions. Each and every user agrees to hold me harmless of any crime LOLZ!!! -ed or act and each and every user agrees to reverse or vacate the transaction as necessary if it is later found out that the buying of your bitcoin was illegal where you or I am. If you are from California or New York or the Commonwealth of Virginia (or any other US state or Territory) please do not attempt to transact with me. LOOOL! -ed I have no interest in your state's interpretations or misinterpretations of what money might or might not be. Do not use my site if you are an American. Or if you are in any place where selling me bitcoin for something I offer is illegal you MUST LEAVE THIS SITE IMMEDIATELY AND NEVER COME BACK until YOU are and I are both compliant with YOUR existing or currently unknown or not yet conceived of local or state laws. Q: Is Sell Bitcoin for Cash available for Americans? A: NO. See above. America is undecided about what a bitcoin may or may not be and it will take years to sort it all out. This service is for non-Americans. Sorry America you will need to find some other way to spend your hard earned bitcoins. I will not take your business if you are an American. Sorry. Please go away. I'm serious. Q: What are "MoneyPak Codes" and how are they related to a "Green Dot" Debit Card? A: In short Green Dot makes a re loadable Visa that you can refill using a code that I may sell you. The Green Dot Corporation, which I am not in any way affiliated with, makes personalized Visa cards which are sold through retail stores nationwide including 7-11, Walmart, most grocery stores and most drug stores. These Visa cards can be reloaded with a MoneyPak code which can be purchased from these very same retailers. Once the code is loaded to the card the personalized card can be used to withdraw cash from automatic teller machines at these same retailers. Q: How do I use an MP Code to refill a GD Card? A: First you'll need to purchase a Green Dot Debit Card from one of 50,000 retail locations in the USA for about $4.95. Next you'll need to REGISTER the card which is required BEFORE you can use a MP Code to reload it. After registration the personalized GD Debit Card can used just like any other debit card even allowing free cash withdrawals at thousands of ATM's. Q: Do I need a bank account to use this service? A: NO, I do not want your money and I do not send you money. I am only bartering one item for another. Q: Do I need to provide you identification or some type of private information to use this service? A: NO. At this time I do not need any type of information from you accept a bitcoin address I might use to refund a failed purchase. Q: Does Sell Bitcoin for Cash sell bitcoin? A: NO, I am only a buyer at this time. There are several places you can go to buy Bitcoin, this is a good place to start: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Buying_bitcoins Q: Why should I trust you will deliver the code? A: Happy to demonstrate my offering with a small order (~$20US). Q: Will you be offering any other methods to "cash out" of Bitcoin? A: YES. I am always seeking trustworthy methods to deliver value to fellow barterers. In fact, if you have an items you would like to barter with me please let me know! Q: Where do you get the moneyPak's you sell? A: I buy them at a local retailer and I pay cash. Q: Are you affilitated with GreenDot, Visa or 7-11 Walmart? A: NO. My only relationship with these companies is that I am customers of their products from time to time. Specifically: MoneyPAK and Green Dot are registered trademarks of the Green Dot Corportation with whom I am in no way related except that I am often a customer of their products. VISA is a registered trademark of the VISA Corportation with whom I am in no way related except that I am often a customer of their products. Walmart is a registered trademark of the Walmart Corportation with whom I am in no way related except that I am often a customer of their products. 7-11 is a registered trademark of the Southland Corportation with whom I am in no way related except that I am often a customer of their products. |
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Mexican Dwarf Toreador. Make of it what you will. 
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10k ... puh ... mid morning snack  YUP ... going nowhere ... glued to our screens watching little red and green candles move occasionally  Got booze and fags though, so no worries there ... You know this doesn't parse well here, across the pond I thought things were getting risque for a second or so What a man does in his own home and all that  Hey, smoke 'em if you got 'em... Whatever that means |
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10k ... puh ... mid morning snack YUP ... going nowhere ... glued to our screens watching little red and green candles move occasionally Got booze and fags though, so no worries there ... You know this doesn't parse well here, across the pond I thought things were getting risque for a second or so |
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Sorry if the question is silly, but if the attacker has the great majority of hash power, what's to prevent him from updating his software & repeating the attack?
Ya - that would be up to the nature of the code change in the magical hard fork. Even with no hard fork, the difficulty quickly increases to a point where even their super hashing speed is limited to 2016 blocks in two weeks. The 2nd scenario I laid out above (attacker starts out mining 1 block per second) has almost reached that point. They would be back to 2 weeks by the next difficulty increase. Of course, what's not covered is that even after that is restored, then the attacker would still win the lottery for most or all of the blocks going forward. So maybe the hard fork is that you can't mine if your hashrate is too far out of line with the rest of the network. "can't mine" means that such blocks are invalidated by the rest of the network. Thanks, i'm just having a hard time picturing the logistics. This megaminer is unlikely to be a single machine/single ip, so "hardcoded" banning seems at least difficult (picture something like a botnet being used as proxies -- err, something like that), so all this crunch power won't even look like one big lump? What would the magic code look for? |
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This means, that no single entity can mess with the difficulty more than a single factor of 4 at a time. This would give people(devs) time to notice that something was up and code/propose a fork.
The attacker could, slowly (at each difficulty increase), bring their hardware online, increasing in hashing power multiples of 4. This would increase the difficulty by the maximum 4x every 3.5 days, up to the maximum achieveable level of their hardware hashrate. It would then be possible for them to perform the aforementioned switch-off, to leave the blocks unmined for (potentially) a long time, which again might require a hard fork of some kind to rectify.
Actually, the factor of 4 limit means that the attacker can initially mine the crap out of coins unless there is a hard fork intervention. But the factor of 4 takes a pretty quick toll on their advantage. Given the loose parameters laid out previously in this thread, let's say the attacker starts in with hash power that is orders of magnitude above the rest of the network. How long does it take the rest of the community to recognize the attack, alert developers, developers formulate plan, developers implement plan and fork code, and sufficient number of miners implement the hard fork? 2 days maybe? So if the attackers equipment is powerful enough to mine one block in say 10 seconds at the current difficulty, then it will take 20160 seconds, or 5.6 hours to mine 2016 blocks. After that the difficulty goes up by a factor of 4. I haven't looked at the underlying math, so what follows is an assumption. The assumption is that the same attacker would then need 22.4 hours to mine the next 2016 blocks. Total time so far is 28 hours. After that the difficulty goes up again by a factor of 4 so (using same assumption) it should take 89.6 hours for the attacker to mine the next 2016 blocks. The hard fork would go into effect about 1/3 of the way through that. So the attacker would mine about 5000 blocks in the 2 days required to implement a hard fork. If we instead say the attacker can mine a block in 1 second, then the scenario does not get much worse. The times for mining 2016 blocks for the attacker go in steps of 33.6 minutes (2016 seconds), 134.4 minutes, 8.96 hours, 35.84 hours, and 143.36 hours. In this scenario the attacker would mine just under 8100 blocks before the hard fork could be implemented. Sorry if the question is silly, but if the attacker has the great majority of hash power, what's to prevent him from updating his software & repeating the attack? |
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Ive concluded that every discussion involving anarchism on this forum will devolve into ancaps and pro capitalism herpderps idealizing themselves into a hole.
Well, if you want anti-capitalist herpderps, you've come to the wrong place. Yeah. This isn't the place for it. Spoken on a Bitcoin forum. How ironic. How about I make a quick list of Bitcoin's socialist tendencies (not that I'm a socialist or anything, just pointing things out.) - Relies on infrastructure that's sponsored by someone else. E.g.: distributed memory pool for unconfirmed transactions = unfunded; network resources = unfunded
- Relies on charity to pay for development. So far this kind-of works, but anecdotal evidence suggests it's mostly a loss-making hobby and contributors usually have other day jobs to subsidize it.
- Most direct funding is through a combination of "inflation tax" and exchange rate appreciation.
- As long as participation remains voluntary and transparent, the inflation seems acceptable. If it's ever forced on me, I might start demanding that the miners provide various governmental services in return.
- As people put more of their faith into Bitcoin, the exchange rate goes up and it parasitically steals value from other things. One way to think of Bitcoin is: it's just one bubble in a global washing basin full of other bubbles. If one bubble grows, the other bubbles have less room.
Well, sort o'. The neat thing about capitalism is it's so flexible. Since it has no "higher ideals" to shackle it, it has no problem mutating to absorb & incorporate elements of other economic systems. US could be called a capitalist country (i know, debatable, but give me some rope here, who knows i might ...) And US has charities, social programs, religious communes -- all of that hippie stuff. The main thing that lets us call it capitalist is most of the means of production are in private hands. Bitcoin is being mined by gear more & more specialized, the miners are no longer consumers (if they ever were). They're Bitcoin's industrialists, controlling the means of production.** Having a wallet & jumping on the network makes one no more of an owner than riding a train makes one a RR tycoon. So, all's well, the motivation is mainly greed ("enlightened self-interest," "invisible hand" etc., etc.), and if some pro bono work happens as a side effect, so be it. Your last point is a killah, though. It clearly shows that Bitcoin is simply infringing on fiat's territory & not creating a parallel economy that some here try to preach. If there are 5 cows & 5 competing currencies to buy them, the question isn't "how many cows do we divvy up, but "who gets the cows." Edit: **Well, that's sort-a a slight of hand on my part, bitcoin's not really a commodity. But if we're talking capitalism vs socialism, we have to assume that *something* is being made |
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This is a bit OT*, but the laziness of today's EULAs, TOS & privacy statements is getting absurd. If it's not enough that all contain "TO THE EXTENT NOT PROHIBITED BY LAW, IN NO EVENT WILL GYFT BE LIABLE [for anything EVAR!]" disclaimers, these legalese-sounding webpages aren't even proofed before being published ("Please refer to our Terms of Sale [Add hyperlink to Terms of Sale] for the terms, conditions and policies ...")! If people who write these things don't read them, do they really expect anyone else to? And, of course, if order deny,allow
deny from all wasn't enough, we get more fail: "IN NO EVENT WILL GYFT'S TOTAL LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, WARRANTY, TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE, WHETHER ACTIVE, PASSIVE OR IMPUTED), PRODUCT LIABILITY, STRICT LIABILITY OR OTHER THEORY, ARISING OUT OF OR RELATING TO THE USE OF OR INABILITY TO USE THE APP EXCEED THE FEE FOR THE APP (AS OPPOSED TO ANY OTHER FEES/COSTS INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, ANY FEES ASSOCIATED WITH YOUR DEVICE, THE COST TO PURCHASE AND OPERATE YOUR DEVICE, THE COST OF ANY GIFT CARDS OR THE COST OF ANY PRODUCTS OR SERVICES PURCHASED WITH A GIFT CARD)."** Yep, i get it. "We're not liable for anything. If logic fails, Gyft's liability shall not exceed the cost of this app. Which is $0. Thank you & good luck!" **The "cap lock = cruise control for cool" obviously holds in legalese, meaning something like "We've seen other companies do this, so we ctrl C/Ctrl V'd it. Nobody reads this shit, we certainly didn't, and we don't expect you to, either. Nevertheless, we wish to punctuate how damn important this is with our cap lock key." |
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No, we're not seeing "essentially faith" with bitcoin. It's more. I have to agree finally with Max Keiser: bitcoin does have intrinsic value (I used to argue it was all pure faith). The intrinsic value of bitcoin is it's scarcity combined with the fact that you can send it through the internet anonymously. That's intrinsic value right there.
Unless you somehow enjoy sending coins back & forth, and don't care if they buy you any goodies, i think we're talking " instrumental value." Frozenlock just gave the answer that ends this discussion. The blockchain has the potential to become so much more than a ledger that stores bitcoin transactions. Bitcoins however are what gives you access to it. Intrinsic value, right there. I'm still not sure what you mean, maybe my interpretation of intrinsic value is too literal? The blockchain won't start making cheese or building cars, will it? |
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I recommend one of this for your backpack  http://www.voltaicsystems.com/and then with a laptop you can be a moving bitcoin ATM ... (you can get part of the blockchain on a usb to speed things up and sell that data to others or leave them suffering the modem speed for ages) Now you're gettin' it! We'll set up a p2p network of solar-powered laptops!! We'll bring back can-tennas too! |
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No, we're not seeing "essentially faith" with bitcoin. It's more. I have to agree finally with Max Keiser: bitcoin does have intrinsic value (I used to argue it was all pure faith). The intrinsic value of bitcoin is it's scarcity combined with the fact that you can send it through the internet anonymously. That's intrinsic value right there.
Unless you somehow enjoy sending coins back & forth, and don't care if they buy you any goodies, i think we're talking " instrumental value." |
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Other possibility. What happens with bitcoin when there is no internet, when 3G lines are switched off and there are not even mobile lines for failing infrastructures or in zones with inhibitors? What would happen with Bitcoin?
Just some thoughts
You'll have to purchase one of these...  Yes, then i recommend to new users they start to download the blockchain now. And getting a nice pots line. And swapping ips for phone numbers. |
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Other possibility. What happens with bitcoin when there is no internet, when 3G lines are switched off and there are not even mobile lines for failing infrastructures or in zones with inhibitors? What would happen with Bitcoin?
Just some thoughts
You'll have to purchase one of these... |
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Enough already, let's move on!
What I really want to know is what religious rituals do Bitcoin practitioners follow, which are fact based and which are superstitious?
Is there any value in becoming religious about Bitcoin?
And how about a help group, and a Q&A - how to tell you have become religious about Bitcoin???
One might: - religiously commit their passphrases to memory, - religiously practice downloading abstinence in their stand against crypto-stealing-spyware, and - religiously proselytize the "outsiders" to accept their faith in Bitcoin... For those of you just realizing you're in a cult... you're not alone. Simple. If the word hash makes you think of  instead of  or  , it's already too late. |
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