You're probably the dumbest person in crypto:

https://block.d.evco.in/chain/Devcoin?hi=0

Furthermore in 2013, you could've just bought BTC. And presto, you're rich instead of a miserable 50 year old ranting and raving online about neo-Nazism and trashing other people's valid points.

Why not shekel?  :/

Patience is just a synonym for bagholding. 

I agree the whole millisat thing is unnecessarily complicating.

I'll tell you what would really be handy is an Electrum-type wallet for Lightning. You can't expect everybody who wants to participate to run their own node. I'd also be more inclined to use Liquid if exchanges other than Bitfinex supported it. Liquid and Lightning support - along with feeless conversions - should be standard for all major BTC exchanges.


Megaupload is quite centralized. You must have him confused with the Pirate Bay people. But then again your bar for decentralization is quite low, so maybe not.

Kim dot Con - the man of decentralized content - against all rules. Sure he knows his shit / tech -to make it run big

but wont get adopted AGAINST the bigger consensus of regulation

https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/1408576877216681986

And Satoshi made pure Bitcoin - that scales onchain (not crippled BTC or BCH)

and yes - there was no block / capacity limit from the very beginning. Satoshi got talked into by first Bitcoin-FUD ever

https://twitter.com/wisewizzz/status/1409243183888932866

Salut!
Daca va strangeti pe undeva la o bere, cu subiectul de discutie Bitcoin/crypto, ma bag si eu cu un prieten (2 pasionati de crypto).



Ar fi ceva..., poate apuc si eu sa cumpar ceva Bitcoini daca ajunge sub 1000 dolari 

#FOMO #TRASHART

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This topic is too sidetracked on politics.

What are the various options or plans for DGC?

As I see it, the two options are 1) Same old pointless shit as every single other coin, or 2) try to make a network ai coin.

Are there other options?

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I don't know enough history to comment on most of that, but if a person believes that there is objective truth, and a person excuses what you call 'worldly weakness', then everybody ultimately is on a path to a proper place, where they receive 'mercy'.

Regardless what a person believes with regard to history, the past, humanity is at a place today which is not yet historical, not yet the past. So a person should use whatever sense they have to make good decisions, so as to not be reliant in the future on mercy, even if it is available.

Therefore, it seems more sensible to focus on the realities of modern politics, and how various issues could be solved sensibly.

Network ai coins started by tribal groups, and developed within hard physical tribal borders, seem to be an intelligent solution to what looks like a serious problem developing in the modern world.

It's not over til it's over. Huntercoin briefly provided a path. Other coins will try. There is not likely to be any success until there is facility for groups of people to create closed networks which are not vulnerable to outside pressure.

As for eternal life, etc, sorry to be the one to tell you this, but jesus was a fictional character created to unify conquered tribes under the Romans, and things got out of control. Likewise Islam and other colonial religions. You had a pre christian ancestral religion which your father's father's father's etc group belonged to. That group got conquered and was forced to drink the koolaid. Now you are obliged to pretend the koolaid is medicine. It's not.

Everybody has a maternal and paternal lineage. Male ancestry is generally passed through one kind of DNA and female another, so you could potentially follow your DNA to find when and where your lineage got squished.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3203092/

Anyway, here's some news. A few days ago a bunch of Catalan separatists were pardoned, and today John McAfee escaped a Catalan jail through the skylight. Ironic.

Western Europeans need to rapidly grow brains or very dark times are ahead.

1) The crypto that exists now will not change anything. If somebody who has developer skills starts a better path, like network ai coins, it could have an effect. The biggest problem is that so many people trust public key cryptography.

2) Crispr and similar tools allow the creation of bioweapons that target specific genetic lineages. Vaccines are a separate issue. Vaccines have a strong psychological component. *After WWII the U.S. made vaccines mandatory in occupied Japan as a psychological tool to weaken the Japanese. Go on Google right now and see if you can find a single reference to that program within 45 minutes.

3) The U.S. has been trying to reduce indigenous populations in Latin America for centuries, whether under guise of fighting communism, drugs, terrorism or whatever. Backdoored crypto like bitcoin and all crypto that depends on pkc will provide new opportunities to control and eliminate weaker groups.

4) Who knows how things will go. You do what you think is right, then you die and reincarnate.

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Just looked online and see
"Vaccinations were made compulsory in Japan after World War II as the U.S. military tried to suppress epidemics raging through a destitute and malnourished population. Armed soldiers rounded up civilians who did not comply."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/japan-covid-vaccine-skeptics/2020/12/18/ef32c25e-3a31-11eb-aad9-8959227280c4_story.html

Vaccines have long been used to show who is boss, a lot like armies sometimes use rape. The U.S. claimed it was forcing vaccines on Japanese to "suppress epidemics raging through a destitute and malnourished population", and of course they used nukes in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, not Berlin, because the radiation helped Japanese develop more of an interest in physics. Everybody pretends to be benevolent.

A vaccinated immune system is like somebody who cheats on tests. In the short term there is a payoff, but in the long term it makes a person's system weaker.

When a government makes vaccines mandatory they are using rape symbolism for psychological effect, but it is more subtle than overtly using rape to make a population submissive. Vaccinators come with a smile and since vaccines do often save lives in the short term they have an easy product to sell. If you research rape as a weapon of war  https://www.britannica.com/topic/rape-crime/Rape-as-a-weapon-of-war and look at how vaccines are used politically you will see similarities.

The United States spends a vast amount of money every year convincing people in poor countries that anti vaxxers are crackpots, that normal people should always submit to being injected by those with power.

There are two sides to the issue though.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/06/23/texas-hospital-houston-methodist-vaccine-employees-fired-resign/

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/06/16/texas-constitutional-carry-greg-abbott/

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Thanks, Dan.  Ok.  .05?  Anybody?  I need to sell ASAP. 

It's a "Dinar" symbol

An easy way to understand is to look at the globe in terms of where tribes exist compared to melting pot areas.

Look at all big countries and you will see all of the economic power concentrated in the melting pot aspect of the country. The U.S. exists for example because it was able to militarily conquer all tribes nearby, then degrade their societies through forced conversion by priests etc, then pull them into the melting pot economy.

For a long time it has been beyond illegal for any indigenous entity to begin an economy that might challenge the dollar economy. So illegal that no laws were ever necessary. Any indigenous Americans who tried to do something like that faced the full force of the U.S., including death.

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Today, if indigenous societies tried to create a fiat currency it would flounder and flop because melting pots have so much power. Creating a worthless tribal currency  which does not have guns behind it, to challenge a worthless melting pot currency which has lots of guns is no go, a fail.

So if tribal groups want to challenge the beast that is consuming them they cannot bluff with worthless fiat, they have to create a real currency which produces an actual commodity, in other words real money.

The new commodity in the last hundred years or so is scientific data and capability. Just like gold or oranges or any other commodity, new data is easily monetized if necessary. Any currency which produces a real commodity, such as scientific data, is like making a currency around a gold mine.

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A few months after bitcoin developed, several other projects were started. The goal of these projects appears to involve trying to prevent, or slow, the accelerating collapse of British derives societies, like the U.S., Australia etc, and Western Europe. Those areas have serious concerns developing.

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Unfortunately, there is a very easy solution to the concerns of colonial areas. It's not necessary to discuss it excessively but you know crispr.

A solution to avoid what is rapidly developing is hard borders strong quarantines etc. If melting pot boundaries are used then tribal extinctions will accelerate. In that case nukes are put on the table. Tribal currencies are a way to help create tribal borders which are secure.

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Edit to add
Just to be clear there are a vast number of people in many countries who are 'nuclear capable' or 'crispr capable' on their own. One person, one army. If you want to take over a village with conventional weapons you need a lot of people. If you want to nuke it you do not need help if you have a proper education, you can do it alone, and if you want to exterminate a race, likewise if you are a crispr capable individual

The U.S. has, by far, the best biowar capacity of any country. Once individuals in the U.S. start clearing land in Latin America the Chinese will be greenlighted for Tibet, etc etc around the world. It does not need a chain of command to approve, just one person and a little lab equipment.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/perus-hinterland-town-battles-worlds-worst-covid-19-outbreak-2021-06-04/

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Let me try again. You say "I’m still not sure what you mean by tribal economies.  How would a coin help them?  Watching ads?  But they have no money to buy anything.  I’m imagining poor African tribes so that’s why I don’t see how a coin would help them unless you took from the rich to the poor.  We already know that plan is an utter failure."

Watching ads would be silly.

You are imagining "poor African tribes".

Okay.

A poor African tribe which is isolated has no need for neither fiat nor crypto. They need basic resources and space. In other words they are entirely dependent on their neighbors balancing resources in a way that is not harmful or lethal to them. There is no need to force crypto on them.

A poor non isolated tribe i.e., one of the many African tribes which are spread around the continent, will have people with expertise in conventional sciences. Look at the network ai coin described, and it can be adapted to other sciences besides math. They have to find a science, or a niche within a science which they will develop. They will need a basic framework of code to get started i.e., a much more developed version of the simple math network ai coin discussed already.

So, today, step 1) develop a simple example coin which develops an easy science like math
step 2, tomorrow, ) monetize it so it attracts hungry people
step 3, next week, ) help people adapt the coin, build code repositories or templates for new coins, from one simple science to another simple science, then to more complex sciences step
step 4, next year, ) Your non isolated African tribe can develop a niche or a science. Any science can be monetized. Corporations do it by hiring scientists and using their work converted into products to make money. There are many other ways.
step 5, whenever, ) Sometime, way down the line, tribal economies can develop entirely proprietary sciences. There have been many sciences destroyed by the melting pot. When tribes are consumed their sciences disappear and that broken development shifts to sciences the melting pot had started. Once there are secure tribal boundaries, tribes can start developing local sciences which will continue developing as long as the tribes are secure. A local science will produce a product which is unknown elsewhere but which has some use as a science. Today, a melting potted world largely built around western European expansion, there are a limited number of sciences which people in every industrial melting pot work on. Once tribes have security and isolated economies there will be new sciences which are not from Western Europe nor global. What will be the sciences that are developing in your African tribe? Who knows. Initially all network connected economies would have a heavy tinge of Western European influence, but once global power shifts from melting pot to tribe it will be the opposite. Gradually power will become a function of tribal isolation, so the more isolated a tribe the faster it will develop sciences whose product is 'a commodity' of higher value.

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Or, to put it another way, if you don't understand what a tribal economy is.

An economy is a group of people who generally have a currency and other things in common.

A melting pot economy is generally a collection of lots of people from different backgrounds with one currency i.e., previously conquered tribes + a core society which pushes the worldview of some other society which is consuming weaker groups.

melting pot / So, for example, the U.S. is a Western European based economy and political system, so it promotes that worldview, but it contains a lot of past victims of the U.S. who were conquered and who the U.S. needs to assimilate / consume. As long as the U.S. has a relatively wealthy status with regard to other countries it is easy.

melting pot /In China the Han ethnicity is the predominant group, akin to the British in the U.S., Australia etc. As in the U.S., their society is designed to perpetuate the core culture at the expense of neighbors.

melting pot /In the Soviet Union, the Soviets tried to play the U.S. game of creating a fake federal system, but because they did not have the resources they failed. Today in Russia you have a lot of ethnicities and Russia has not quite eliminated as many tribes in modern history as the U.S. You can compare the Russia section at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extinct_languages_of_Europe with the page at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extinct_languages_of_North_America and you see no country comes close to the U.S. at eliminating tribal culture / languages.

melting pot /In India you have quite a lot of tribal societies with their own languages and cultures and, in many cases, more tribal authority than you find in other countries. An obvious exception being Kashmir and some places in the Northeast. India now is tending towards nationalism though so it isn't clear how those tribal societies may fare in the future.

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Are there any tribal economies? I don't know of any completely tribal economies in the world now. After WWI there was a heavy push to globalize and eliminate tribal power because some people saw it as a cause of conflict. Then melting pots began collaborating against any tribal societies that began to emerge. Now, today, you have an accelerating push by melting pots to eliminate tribal societies.

East Timor is an excellent example. The U.S., Britain and Australia arranged for Indonesia to exterminate a large segment of the population for reasons that would make this long post even longer. Today if you go on Google and try to find out what happened in East Timor you will not find the truth unless it is by accident. Same with many other tribal societies that were eviscerated. Almost all of the easy paths to information, like Google, present inaccuracies which serve the colonizers, so young people today do not know real history.

Here is a list of recently extinguished tribal languages

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_time_of_extinction

You can see for the past 200 years Australia and the U.S. have been doing the bulk of that type stuff.

Why do they do it? Land and fresh genetic material which creates an underclass that supports the conqueror.

Here is a picture of the last indigenous Tasmanian



Here is a picture of what the government tries to pass of as an 'indigenous Tasmanian' today



The lower picture, the white guy, is "Descended from the Trawulwuy people of north east Tasmania"

https://www.utas.edu.au/alumni/our-alumni/profiles/profiles/professor-greg-lehman

I support this request and this our top guy.  In all seriousness. 

Like always thanks for any support. 

Vlad

Have to argue there.

Bitcoin has one very specific end result which is the opposite of what Huntercoin initially was.

Mikhail Sendeyev was around a lot of people who were studying one type of ai at a Moscow university. You can Google the people he worked with and look at their papers then, and since.

Bitcoin was a completely different trajectory.

When Sendeyev bit the big one, Huntercoin immediately lost its path towards anything approaching real ai, and slowly died.

Huntercoin and bitcoin were initially exact opposites. It was bitcoin + Google ai + other stupidity, and on the other side only a few small attempts to push the world in a healthier direction.

So today there is really nothing. Nobody has picked up where Sendeyev left. Bitcoin has been melting potting vast numbers of people into the global nightmare of a single tribe.

Run silent, run deep, I agree. There are things that can be done if crypto stays off course.

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ETA Here is something to think about. How would the world be different if simple nukes were open source in the 1940s?
1) Countless tribes which are extinct would still be around.
2) Sciences would have advanced much faster.
3) Global warming would be virtually non existent, aside from a few very, very hot spots.

Making a coin which helped tribal economies develop i.e., the opposite of bitcoin, would have a similar effect.

Very easy path to that is a roadmap which ends with a coin that monetizes/develops math scripts and gives non tech types the ability to mine by doing the same work the scripts do. When that basic coin is created somebody smart can adapt it to more complicated sciences.

So what is the roadmap?

Do we wait for Mikhai Sindeyev to reincarnate?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Huntercoin/comments/2058t0/rip_mikhail_sindeyev_the_principal_developer/

Or should we try to anticipate what he would have done?

We've got one developer who might be Ahmed Bodi.

All we need is a few more developers.

Edit to add
If we can get a project outlined and turned into devspeak so developers can understand it, it will probably be possible to onboard people like Domob and Snailbrain who have some experience with pre ai coins, and maybe cooperate with, or steal code from, coins on vaguely similar trajectories like numerai, idena etc. The ultimate goal being to create a repository of code which can be used by any group to create real ai network coins which are more secure, not dependent only on public key cryptography, generate useful data etc

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