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681  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unsuccessful ICO - Terrible experience and what you can learn from it on: August 30, 2017, 07:16:08 AM
I will add benchmark analyses seems to be a reasonable thing to do :-)
682  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Who are the most popular/effective Bitcointalk INFLUENCERS? on: August 30, 2017, 06:41:20 AM
I think the majority of truly influential people have either disappeared from here or have cut back radically on their posting. It's not how it was in the old days when it was nothing but true believers.

If you're looking for people to push your projects, almost everyone who's anyone will be on Twitter, much less so here these days.

Did they disappear to a different community? And why did they disappear in your opinion?

Lets not discuss that here! Thx

Goal is to build up a list with influencers....
683  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unsuccessful ICO - Terrible experience and what you can learn from it on: August 30, 2017, 06:15:52 AM
Make sure you have a well written business plan alongside a pitch deck that will define your business and revenue model. Most whitepapers I've seen only detail on the technical side and ICOs of the projects. And it's so unfortunate that most ICO investors don't care about what the company business model is, they wanna start trading their token and watching 10x or 100x. Period.

Thx! added to the list
684  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unsuccessful ICO - Terrible experience and what you can learn from it on: August 30, 2017, 05:58:25 AM


So far the list to be need is almost done and perfect from the previous ico that knows only to run the ico without securing the most expensive things the investments of the crowd. I will add that i think is very needed not only in ico it must be before and after.

Keep in touch with the investors even you were busy you should provide an announcement of progress. In the ICO Thread and in social medias.

thx, I added it to the list!
685  Economy / Services / Re: [ACTIVE] Monbux's Escrow Services | Since 2014 | Security Upgrade | Legendary | on: August 30, 2017, 05:52:53 AM
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686  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Who are the most popular/effective Bitcointalk INFLUENCERS? on: August 30, 2017, 05:07:46 AM
If you are looking for some people to advertise your service, then many people could help to spread the words about your projects, just hire a manager - yahoo62278  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=355846) to start a signature campaign or contact Theymos https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=35, he is the administrator and both of them consider as the most popular - effective user in this forum.

Thx, for the two names!!!
687  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unsuccessful ICO - Terrible experience and what you can learn from it on: August 30, 2017, 04:48:02 AM



Well this are good lists, I had joined a campaign before and the team was composed of popular people here in this campaign. But, the ICO didn't end up well. There were a lot of supporters during their ICO but only 1/4 of the coins were sold during the ICO. I wonder what went wrong, maybe it's because there's a lot of ICO going on every day, is it because of competition?

Sorry to hear it didn't work out! Thx for the hint to choose the proper time for the ico!
688  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unsuccessful ICO - Terrible experience and what you can learn from it on: August 30, 2017, 04:31:00 AM
I will make a list and DM you some in the next could days.

thx! take your time tho
689  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unsuccessful ICO - Terrible experience and what you can learn from it on: August 29, 2017, 03:59:33 PM
Hello!

I would be interested in stories about ico's that didn't work out. (Maybe the project it self had great potential)



What are the main reasons why an ico can become unsuccessful?



On what ico startups need to watch out before they go live?



The theory about ico's is perfectly clear to me, but like with everything in life, theory is one thing and real experience the other. I do believe that failures are a very good sources to learn from. My personal experience is that in many cases people do learn more from failure examples than from success examples.


I ask for unsuccessful ico stories because my company will soon launch an ico for our 2 projects: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2129844.msg21279456#msg21279456 and I would like to avoid "mistakes" that could possible turn out to be unsucessful.


>>> List:

- Make sure your website is secure, i.e don't get 'hacked'
- Make sure your ETH or BTC address doesn't change on your homepage
- You should have a good design
- Detailed whitepaper
- List of team members with their previous projects and social profiles
- If you distribute tokens through web or client software, make sure that those products are rock solid and secured against possible threats
- You should recruit some people who have been popular in this forum for your ICO team
- You must have a fund for first development
- Create a detailed roadmap too, and don't delay it
- Always provide a working and secure product
- Do not focus only on getting fund




Hello,

I am with CCCoin.Network ... we have currently pushed back our ICO due to lack of interest and have given away almost 750,000 tokens as a bounty just to grow the network and increase awareness.

If I can give you any advice --- It would be to go all in on flash and marketing.  As much as you can afford. (Unfortunately) You can create the biggest scam of a project/company in the world and as long as you market it properly it will sell.

In the Startup world and as an Investor you are taught to release an MVP --- minimum viable product --- so you can start making an income ASAP to reinvest back into the product/business.

In the crypto world that is a bad idea --- You need to market your product as much as possible before the release and make your website is “pretty and flashy” as most investors don't understand the technology behind what they are investing... thus they are investing based on appearance.



What we did was
1. We said let's get a workable & secure website out nothing exciting

2. Let's have an ICO -- asap to create some money to reinvest

3. Then take that money and start really building something legit - (For us that is an online e-commerce platform - where people can sell their services - and we will accept cryptocurrency -- in which we will give a discount to CCCoins).


We have only spent about $1,500 marketing --- And that is absolutely - what we would do differently. Because long term we have cost ourselves more in bounties & giveaways than had we just paid a couple big time marketing services.


We thought (and hoped) that we could build a good socially responsible company ...

1. Then create a bunch of social media accounts (Twitter / Facebook / Reddit / LinkedIn / Slack) ...
2. Put out some press releases ...
3. Write a few Medium posts ...

And eventually, because the product was good in nature and unique - that it would catch on.  

Well, it has gone okay, but we have not raised $1mil like (internally) we wanted.  


The good news is – the e-commerce platform is ¾ the way done. That would not have been the case had we paid for marketing. --- However, we will never know how much our ICO could have been had we:

Bought press releases
Bought banner ads
Paid people to do positive reviews of our site on Youtube … etc.
Paid for Twitter & Facebook friends / spammers / bots.
….etc.

 

I would be happy to refer you to some people who have helped us --- and ---not helped at all--- along the way if you want to DM or email. 

Many thx for this huge insight! Much appreciated! And I agree 99% by ico's is about marketing/pr. To ensure a very successful ico you need some proper amount of funds. That is one reason why we chose the very very hard and long way of early stage investment for our 2 products. $1.5k is today just nothing..... $150k+ and you can start rocking.... sadly but true.

I'm always open to referral contacts, if they are worth the time.
690  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Who are the most popular/effective Bitcointalk INFLUENCERS? on: August 29, 2017, 03:48:59 PM
I think the majority of truly influential people have either disappeared from here or have cut back radically on their posting. It's not how it was in the old days when it was nothing but true believers.

If you're looking for people to push your projects, almost everyone who's anyone will be on Twitter, much less so here these days.

Thx for your honest answer, and tip much appreciated!

We are kind of choosy when it comes to cooperation or finding supporters... we don't like to stick with the mainstream, tho... Money is good but not for every price tho:-)


I would like to encourage you to check out our early stage projects https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2129844.new#new and send me your thoughts via pm! Your opinion is much appreciated!!!
691  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What are the 3 thing you look for in an ICO? on: August 29, 2017, 03:39:58 PM


Go fund yourself assholes.
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for most ICO's this is right yeah.
not all but many.
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I sadly must agree on that! Lately I'm checking a lot of ico's cuz my company plans to run a icon for our start up project ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2129844.new#new) until end of this year. It is somehow depressing what nonsense gets funded. Its even more depressing that all kind of warnings just getting plain ignored.... marketing/pr/ and some well known promoters rule the show....


My 3 points:

1. The IDEA
2. The amount of Investment needed to realize the project
3. All the rest can be bought with money or can be faked and has not much value.... white paper, team, so on. You will need common sense when thinking about an investment. Stick to the basics.
692  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ICO is the best way to invest? on: August 29, 2017, 02:21:36 PM
No, it is not the best way to invest.  If you believe just because a coin puts out an ICO it somehow legitimises the project then you are wrong.  It is so easy now for someone to start an ICO using ETH with fancy graphics and nice sounding roadmaps without actually having to have anything in the pipeline.

There will be good ICOs that can work out but if you look at many of the ICOs over time the majority of them fall below ICO value after getting listed on an exchange as people want to cash out with some profit.

The best way to invest is to evaluate the project and not take into account the fact it is an ICO, there are many projects out there that have not felt the need to raise x amount of money prior to doing anything, a prime example of this is bitcoin itself.



I vote for tiggytobs answer to be the best! 100% agreeing with it. ICO is a very popular but by fare not the best way to invest. I would say its 1 way that offers some kind of transparency but also holds big risk in today's time if you didn't do your homework tho.
693  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: ICO Advertisment on: August 29, 2017, 02:01:57 PM
Some finding investors in RL on first place. Once they got a starting fund they are more independent and I agree that there are more and more using social platform advertising or search engine advertising to attract token buyers.
694  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: best upcoming ICO on: August 29, 2017, 01:51:13 PM
It probably also depends if you want to make a long term investment (what possible has lower risk and higher profit) or short term profit. Of course it can not be generalized but short time / long time should be a factor in decision making.
695  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unsuccessful ICO - Terrible experience and what you can learn from it on: August 29, 2017, 12:53:54 PM
What about own ico software or use of ico platforms? Choosing the right ico platform is for sure major important i would say. What can you mess up by your choice?
696  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: ICO Advertisment on: August 29, 2017, 12:42:51 PM
I agree. I'm relatively a newbie and came here hoping to find in depth discussions and help on ICOs but there seems to be so much noise on all the threads that it just feels impossible to find right people, get some feedback and genuine info.

Unless you're a core member of this community it makes life very hard for anyone like me and start doubting if this is the right place to do a serious announcement or learn.

 

I advise you to keep trying to post new threads and/or get a thread pumped that covers your questions to spread it. But I totally agree the forum is huge, million of posts and do not forget there are people getting paid to keep some threads on top....

Everything needs time here.. especial building up your member status, as lower it is is and lower the amount of responses tho. But this happens by all big forums, not only on bitcointalk Wink

Example: My company has posted  two early stage project https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2129844.new#new, still not even 1 reply or comment because my member status is too low to attract attention of right people... so gonna need to find some supporters first... and that will take time tho....

697  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unsuccessful ICO - Terrible experience and what you can learn from it on: August 29, 2017, 10:18:35 AM
Just do not focus only on getting fund

thx I added it to the list
698  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unsuccessful ICO - Terrible experience and what you can learn from it on: August 29, 2017, 10:08:59 AM
My most important expectation is: Always have very detailed roadmap and write how and when you are gonna do things. Delays don't matter
And always give us working secure product if you are claiming its working secure product. Lot of ICOs create just basic apps and tell us its like final product. I hate that.

thx I added it to the list
699  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unsuccessful ICO - Terrible experience and what you can learn from it on: August 29, 2017, 09:42:43 AM
thx! I added it to the list
700  Economy / Service Announcements / TRUSTED NODES - For Payment Gateways And Wallets on: August 29, 2017, 09:16:10 AM

Trusted Nodes is a server based verification and identification "keep alive" technology that can be integrated via plug-in in payment gateways, wallets or any other service or software requiring online verification or identification.

More info: here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2129844.new#new
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