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1  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto is For Risk Takers on: July 08, 2018, 01:34:42 PM
I seen lots of people are panic and selling and spreading FUD . But based on my experience people who really dare to take risk only won here .
Wise and daring investors are still searching for good potential coins to invest while its really cheap were greedy people are panic and spreading FUD
Finally people who dare to invest bitcoin even when the price of 100$ they created fortune here . Its completely daring and vision not at aall luck . SO if you are having real vision and want to make milestone in life then be here in crypto and support other wise please quit .
yes because crypto itself is not consistent. Not all who have tried to do cryptocurrency get what they want. Some got rich,some succeed and some do not. It is usually risky because most of the time you deal with uncertainties and there are times that you may lose.
2  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How did you recover from your loss in bitcoin investment? on: July 07, 2018, 03:46:00 PM
I know that not all the people out there had gain in bitcoin investment and some of them are losing their money and made a wrong decision which is to sell their bitcoin in low price. So their money was being compromised and that is unfortunate event for them to happen. However, i know that there are also smart people out there who are patiently waiting and now gaining in their loss since they had already the confidence on facing the challenges on. As we all know that all investment has its own risk and bitcoin is no exception for that. Somehow these smart people had already recovering their loss. I just want to figure how they manage to recover it from the fall down.
I haven't recovered my investment yet but I am fully recovered of the damage dealt to my emotions. I bought bitcoin when it is on red thinking that it will rise eventually and I ended up losing because bitcoin then goes down bit by bit.
3  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you trade for money or emotional satisfaction? on: July 06, 2018, 04:15:59 PM
DO YOU WANT TO BE ENTERTAINED OR RICH?…IT’S YOUR CHOICE

I came across this excellent chart the other day. It shows those times in history when the S&P 500 doubled over a ten year period and the trajectory that this doubling took.

Please see here for a relevant chart: https://www.tradinggame.com.au/want-entertained-rich-choice/ 

Much commentary that followed on twitter related to the steady low volatility climb that characterised the latest run and how boring this was. One of the interesting thing about markets and money in general is that people betray their true desires and personality.

Markets are the true window into the soul and in this instance what traders were actually saying is that they wanted to be entertained and not rich. The constant current moaning about the lack of volatility is little more than the plaintiff cries of children who bedevil their parents every school holidays with cries of …I’m bored.

This lay observation tallies with what others have found. The seminal work in this field of trader immaturity is An Analysis of the Profiles and Motivations of Habitual Commodity Speculators by W.B. Canoles, S.R. Thompson, S.H. Irwin, and V.G. France. I have summarised their findings below and have added my own emphasis.

“The typical trader assumes a good deal of risk in most phases of his life. He is both an aggressive investor and an active gambler.

 [He] does not consider preservation of capital to be a very high trading priority.

As a result, he rarely uses stop loss orders. He wins more frequently than he loses (over 51% of the time) but is an overall net loser in dollar terms. In spite of recurring trading losses, he has never made any substantial change in his basic trading style.

To this trader, whether he won or lost on a particular trade is more important than the size of the win or loss. Thus he consistently cuts his profits short while letting his losses run.

 He also worries more about missing a move in the market by being on the sidelines than about losing by being on the wrong side of a market move; i.e., being in the action is more important than the financial consequences.

Participating brokers confirmed that for the majority of the speculators studied, the primary motivation for continuous trading is the recreational utility derived largely from having a market position.

Numerous indications in our survey indicate that they are not trading solely or even primarily for profit, but may be maximizing excitement or the number of winning trades.”

So we come back to the original question. Do you want to rich or be entertained as the choice is entirely yours.

Author: Chris Tate
Article reproduced with kind permission of Tradinggame.com.au.

The article is concluded by the quotes below:


“It's in your best interest to focus on building your trading skills rather than on achieving a huge profit every month.” – Joe Ross

“No matter how good you may think you are, nobody is bigger than the market and it will beat you to your knees if you don't treat it with the respect it deserves.” - Adrian Alberts 

“Trading does not have to be very difficult — what can be difficult is finding the right path early on and properly understanding the major impact of your mental state on your trading results” - Gabriel Grammatidis 



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I am not quite into trading but I have been trying it for the purpose of earning money. My friend recommended me to do trading and I never do trading just for the satisfaction I get, sure I am satisfied when I win trades but that is not the main purpose why I trade. It is important to have fun when you are doing something to make you more productive but do not forget why you got ther in the first place.
4  Economy / Economics / Re: when you sell out of panic, you are contributing to the dump! on: July 06, 2018, 03:43:20 PM
Many of us here are saying, why is the cryptocurrencies market is getting a dump these days. Some are saying is because of the FuD, others are saying it is because of regulations laws in south Korea and India which is also child of FUD. But did you know that  when ever you sell out of panic, you are contributing to the dump and you are also attacking the blockchain technology!
yes that is why after a huge pump, there will be always a huge dump coming after. I think it is because of the mentality of the users that they shall sell it as long as the priceis still high so when they see red in the chart, they tend to panic.For me, hodling is still the best,I would never sell my holdings in this kind of situation.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What is the most glorious coin now? on: July 06, 2018, 03:09:18 PM
During the long depression of the bitcoin this question is rather interesting! I know that there are a lot of traders,who fixed their income in Tether, somebody in TrueUSD.
But there are a lot of good tokens like ADA, IOTA, EOS.  Do you think if btc continue to stagnating is other tokens will die too?

Based on the crypto news there are some really huge companies which decide to invest in crypto. Probably, this is the way to rocket alts and pump btc?
I am not crypto expert but when I am asked what is the best coin as of now,I would never say bitcoin. For me, the best coin in this current situation is none other than ethereum.Currently,my wallet is mostly composed of bitcoin and ethereum and my btc wallet keeps falling while I somehow get profits on ethereum.
6  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who sells BTC now? on: July 06, 2018, 01:35:50 PM
I have seen many threads talking about should I sell now or wait till BTC moons. When I see these threads I marvel and move on to check on different topics or threads because I know the person doesn't know what he is talking about. Diving more into cryptocurrencies, when you sell now it means you are a coward and don't even know the kind of cryptocurrency you are dealing with. One thing is that, its really kinda pity to see those topics raised. I have set a goal and until that goal is not, I will never sell BTC and that's me.I want ask that is it because those selling the coin are newbies and are afraid of loosing some small $s or they haven't read much about bitcoin or the cryptocurrencies or they have low knowledge about the blockchain technology?      
I think those who would not want to get higher loss. They sell their bitcoins because they think bitcoin will not get back again to its glorious place. For me, thet are just plain stupid. If they want more profit, then they should learn to wait because for me, I still believs that bitcoin can still rise even in this tough situation.
7  Economy / Economics / Re: You're not wealthy yet, so you're not allowed to be wealthy on: July 05, 2018, 12:52:55 AM
The rule that only accredited investors, which means people who are already wealthy, are allowed to participate in certain ICOs is senseless imo. It's like saying "YOU'RE NOT WEALTHY YET, SO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BE WEALTHY." Stupid society, with obsolete rules, we're living in.

Disclaimer: I'm not a US citizen, and I've not read that law
I have not heard that rule in my entire life. It kinda surprises me.I have a friend that invest on certain ICOs but he is not that rich yet. He makes money through investment and he does not even encounter that kind of problem. I dont know about you.
8  Economy / Economics / Re: Why we must study Economics at University? on: July 04, 2018, 01:30:12 AM
Most probably in this section are users that are interested mostly in Economics, so I want to know why Economics attracts you?

I think it should be always part of the curriculum because economics is essential to our life. How?  Economicy is always part of our daily living, the way you spend money, the way you earn and you can also learn much deep understanding about how money works or something like that.
9  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin failed as a currency on: July 04, 2018, 01:26:46 AM
Bitcoin was supposed to be used as a currency, not only a form of investment. However, it's been more successful as a form of investment, a "speculative asset".

Do you guys think that this can change in the long term ?

We cannot easily conclude from what we are just seeing right now. There are many things that may happen and may somehow change your point of view. Bitcoin is not just used as a currency, as we all know ,bitcoin is a digital cryptocurrency which only exist in the digital world. Since it is a product of technology, change is inevitable and bitcoin is not exempted from that. Before it was just used a currency, well now it can also be used in earning which is not a bad thing.
10  Economy / Speculation / Re: Selling bitcoin is a stupid decision ? on: June 24, 2018, 10:24:15 PM
I do no longer see some thing incorrect in promoting bitcoin,we are unfastened to decide whilst to preserve our investments
We maintain the important thing for our success though we are all saying that we need to hodl our coins however there are investor pick to have short time period investments.they're the humans who've tons less endurance,within the occasion that they promote inside the sense that it's miles truly desired for emergency purposes and now not approximately Fuds or fee votality that is very large.we all favored right right here to earnings and if someone choose to promote their cash then they are the simplest accountable of their actions and as tgey take danger on making an funding they probable understand the approach even as to profits.  Grin Grin Grin Grin
it is not a stupid decision to sell your bitcoins in a right situation.It can benefit you but if done wrong, it just do not hurt you but the bitcoin's price itself. If many people did panic selling during the dump, it can hurt bitcoin even more.
11  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin at 20 000$ tomorrow? on: June 24, 2018, 04:22:43 PM
Its not troll topic. Its math speculation and opening to bigger discussion.

Now let me explain this nonsense from topic:

Currently we have 17 mil bitcoins according to statistics 4-6mil are already lost(forgotten pasword, burned during wrong transfers etc). That gives us 11 mil of bitcoins. Few mils are stuck on wallets where they have to be (for example mt gox wallet), on longtime hodlers etc. Lets say that we have 8 mil of bitcoins that can be possibly dump.

Now imagine that 1 whale came to the market tommorow and set buy order on 20k with 2 mil coins (500k to eat walls and 1500k to show that you are not the gay that others want to mess with Smiley Smiley) - 40 bil offer.  Is it possible? - Warren Buffet has 80 bil $. Most of them are locked in investition but its only example Smiley
How many of those 8 mil would be dumped in this situation? How many fomo investors will jump in? I think that those 1.5 mil coins wont be eaten (many investors seeing that big wall wont sell). Some of traders will move their offers obove that huge wall to be able to trade at all. What if he would do this pump after first good news (redtube supports bitcoin  Smiley Kiss ). Society will make dozens of video and posts on forums that this caused bitcoin to moon.

Why would he do that?
Imagine he already have 1 mil coin bough from 5-5000$ (this makes 7 mil not 8 possible to dump). Selling them now will caus huge dump. After this huge pump he would be able to dump everything on higher prices.

Shittalk and noone would do that?
This scenario happend in smaller scale 12 april 2018 when we had pump from 6900 to 8000 in 30 min. Someone just came to the market and said :"From today we trade at levels 8k+. If anyone disagree you are out of trading for next months". Some of traders and holders disagree and tries to dump their coins on him (thats why second candle after this pump was short with high volume).

Im not talking that this will happen tommorow. I post this math speculation to show you guys that in trading world nothing is ceraint. Even best analysis wont predict you from whales that can change market dramatically.
Good aspect of this is that its imposible to do that in south direction. Because if someone would use his few mil bitcoins to dump to 1$ there will be whales who would buy his few mil cos for few mil $ and stop this.

We have supports, resistances, trendlines, RSI but they have money. We should start to think like a whale. Thinking where he is trying to trick us. Where he is prepering for big moves etc. Alwais after any analysis try to think beafore transaction "isnt it a whale who is trying to push me into this trade by showing buy oportunity?"

not sure if sarcasm or not judging from the title. my perception is that bitcoin will not be able to retain its glory by the end of this year, 2018. It is not impossible to do that but it will be hard situation for bitcoin since we can see drops at the chart these past few weeks.
12  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin must come back to its original use - currency ! on: June 24, 2018, 04:19:40 PM
As the title says I am pretty sure most of us who understands "what is the actual use of the bitcoin will know what it says"

Bitcoin :
Mint Symbol : BTC
Value : Avg. 10K USD/BTC
Form : Virtual
Use : Currency

This should have been the actual thing after the Satoshi's dream to release the coin like BTC in the market. The bitcoin was supposed to be used as currency to buy and sell things the same way we do with our dollar.

The first use of BTC was done when the guy bought pizza for 10K BTC. That was the thing which should have been continued today also. No matter what how much you pay for pizza in those early days, it could have been few satoshi's today but it could have worked just fine.

The status of the BTC has now turned to commodity. The commodity which is being traded globally for the own profit and to run the different industries. This is getting ridiculous day by day as replica of it coming out of the forks.

This Should have been the Future:

Bitcoin is ebbing used as currency in 2009-2010. Government see that its popularity is growing day by day and it could be of could use in the financial sectors, lets implement the blockchain in our banks!

Bitcoin earns the legal status

Bitcoin gets widespread across the globe and rest of the country follow the same and thus the nationwide legal status turns into the global legal tender!

People start using the BTC for trading daily life needs with help of bitcoin.

There are no creation of million BTC addresses daily but the only one unique address per head per bank account!

No exchangers are being created but only handy smart phone apps and PC wallets to store the coins linked with bank chain.

Bitcoin smoothly shifts in the market capitalism and keeps going upwards slowly but steadily. The value rises and it gets cheaper to use for daily needs.

Global financial advisor think about minted coins to be formed physically with unique barcodes printed on them.

First appearance of the BTC in the global market!

Yes, that seems to me perfect. This is what bitcoin could have followed but greedy human changed its history by using it for their own benefit as commodity.
Sure it started as a currency but it is also used as a currency like cash and a payment network just like how paypal works. It is used in either of the two and we cannot deny the fact that it helped a lot of users that uses it for payments. It is part of development so it naturally occurs.
13  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Which is more risky? Bitcoin or bank investment? on: June 24, 2018, 04:13:20 PM
Bitcoin is indeed risky. But bank investments are risky too. In our country (coz I'm not sure if this exist in other countries). When you have a large amount on your account they will call you and ask you if you want to invest, minimum of 20,000 Php (or 400 USD). They will propose some investment plans where there is a choice of low, medium, or high risk investment. When you choose the high risk there is a chance to lose or gain 100% of your investment (Medium is 75% and low is 50% if I remember it right). It doesn't make sense to me, it sounds like a scam, they will invest using your money and you don't have any control to it. That is why I like bitcoin more, coz Though it is risky and it's very volatile, you have full control on your investment.

What do you guys think?
Bitcoin investment is already understood to be riskier than bank investment. If you want to have safe investment then invest in banks.The simplest one is to open a savings account but if you prefer to play high risk high reward then bitcoin investment is for you.
14  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC payments in PHILIPPINES on: June 24, 2018, 10:13:28 AM
I've just visit Philippines to have an vacation. I glad to know that Philippines accepting Bitcoin as payments, like Mr. D’s Artisanal Sundries i buy prepared smoked and cured meats, such as bacon or corned beef and i pay BTC Smiley it's so very nice that Philippines is belong to the Cryptoworld  Smiley
Yes,bitcoin is widely accepted as a mode of payment here in the Philippines, you can pay bills through bitcoin and you do not have to wait in line. But I do not prefer paying in bitcoins.
15  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Buy This Dip or Wait ? on: June 23, 2018, 12:14:36 PM
So BTC and most alts are down 10-25% pretty much across the board from 6:30 est. this morning.

So what do you think guys, buy this dip or wait for more blood?
I think it is the time to quit bitcoin and start focusing on altcoins. Many new altcoins are profittable but mostly they are risky. If you still believe in the power of bitcoin, then you can buy now and pray for miracle. Cheesy
16  Economy / Economics / Re: Can human stupidity affect the movement of the market? on: June 23, 2018, 12:09:13 PM
Hello, community. Political, economic and social news in the media significantly affect the life and behavior of the crowd. How can crypto news affect the movement of the market?
I think yes,but it needs more people to do such stupid acts in the same time. Whales can easily manipulate a currency's price through their wealth. They are the biggest market players so if they made a mistake, that can have huge effect on the market itself.
17  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why Bitcoin won't grow fast as it was in 2017 on: June 17, 2018, 03:41:09 PM
A quick recap of cryptocred’s ideas https://medium.com/@cryptocreddy/bitcoin-bull-market-considerations-de3aa0b57029

First of all, I’ll say that I’m confident that BTC will reach new heights, however, I think that this new growth in an upcoming bull market won’t be as rapid as it was in 2017. There are some reasons:

1) In 2017 majority of people just knew about a revolutionary blockchain technology, and was fascinated by it. Nowadays there is a different situation — this word is now on hearing and people won’t go here just for a new technology

2) In 2017 people knew Bitcoin only from his growth-side. If the crisis of 2013 was recalled, it seemed like something long forgotten. Now every newcomer will remember crisis of 2018 and will think 100 times before investing big money here.

3) From the technical point, the price grew in a free flight —  there were no any resistance levels. Now, after this market dump, there are a lot of resistance levels have been appeared and the price will have to break all of them

4) Probably, many of people who now have minus balances will want to exit of crypto to fix their funds from losses as soon as they became green.

If you found this post useful, I will be really appreciated for +merit.
I think that is because at that time,bitcoin is gaining so much popularity and many have tried to invest on it, many people got interest on it so the price went high. But in just few days after it reached its peak,many people have sold their bitcoins and as a result made bitcoin's price worse.
18  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Right now should I wait to buy ? on: June 17, 2018, 03:33:09 PM
Reading this source, I understand that prices are likely to go below 8k. Do you agree with those analysis?


 https://www.coindesk.com/bear-revival-bitcoin-risks-fall-below-8k-after-3-5-week-low/amp/
I agree, after just few days of posting this, the price went below 8000,very accurate analysis. I think this is the right time to buy, buy more so that you can have more profit. Just stay calm and be patient, there are times that it will not come to our favor but bitcoin is for long term investment so you can see the increase maybe the next months or years.
19  Other / Off-topic / Re: Some things to consider before starting a business on: June 17, 2018, 03:26:42 PM
1. Do not invest your own money

Since most businesses are risky, seek partners. So, if things do not go all the way, you will not go bankrupt because of the start-up funds, and not pursued debt.



2. Work hard



If you are not willing to work hard, overtime, forget personal gain and health, then entrepreneurship is not for you. At first, you definitely will not be able to pay employees, even if the employees are cheap. So, your employees are your own.

3. Use the latest technology

New technologies such as software and data storage with small companies are able to compete with large companies. Take advantage of low cost technologies on the market.

4. Respect the time

Rate the money in your time, for example Rp20 thousand per hour. This will help when you have to make a decision: If a store charges Rp10 thousand for shipping every week, and it takes you 2 hours to go to the store itself, then pay for the postage from the company, because it is cheaper.

5. Realistic

When creating a business model, look around and look for a successful example of the business model you want, then learn. If you can not find, whether you are an incredible genius, or your business model will not work in the real world.

6. Sell excess, not price

You start a business, you are naturally frustrated marketing it. But, if you compete on the price, you will end up selling at barely or even under capital. Master the skills of communicating with customers, to explain that your product price is higher because it has a better value
I have learned when I was high school that if you want to start a business or become and entrepreneur, you should remember the acronym SMART. Stands for specific, measurable, attainable, realistic and time bound.  Before starting a business, you should refer to that acronym and that can become as basis if you are ready to start your new business.
20  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin is the vehicle, we run it on: June 10, 2018, 04:55:24 PM
A lot of posts are about bitcoin (eg bitcoin for illegal transactions ... bitcoins change lives ... bitcoin destroys the world ... bitcoin poison and so on) but basically it's all humans that move .. bitcoin is the tool. Good bad how the tool is how the man who runs. is it worth blaming bitcoin. What is your opinion?
Yes, actually the people are also the reason for its increase and decrease in price, it is the effect of user's activity whether it may be good for bitcoin or not. When talking about illegal activities through bitcoin, well bitcoin has nothing to do with them, it is just the people will keep finding ways to get ahead of other people. Even if you ban bitcoin,people will still find ways so it is not right to blame it on bitcoin.
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