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This can be a good option https://centra.tech/centra-card/Although you have 2 levels KYC for card limits and minimum holding 50ctr tokens. I didn't tried yet but I will have a test.Don't know if anyone here try it if so could give a review Ps. I found this one that can be loaded with bitcoin https://www.advcash.com/en/solutions/.I create an account and made a simulation it charges you around %8 if you wanna recieve $100 you have to send $108 more or less |
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Fuck you peacock Glem...probably this thing could prop up like the other ones... as you didn t put a shit on this one ..you fucked me 200€
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You are my refferral so I know how you play from very beginning. Why don't you try betting both sides? If you think the price will go up you can bet 0.002 up and 0.001 down. In this case even if organizers wants you to lose, they can not do much. Play a little bit more tricky and you can win. I play when I have some time and I haven't lost money in the last 2 weeks (I won 0.02, some of it is probably your money; at the beginning I also lost). If you know a little bit probability theorem you can compute expected values as a functions of your bets and probability induced by other bets (you have to estimate real "up" probability somehow). The result proves that playing both sides is not as stupid as it seems. After some time you will also understand how bots work  . If you really were to be able co calculate how the price would move and place your money on it due to that you are extremely stupid if you bet on both sides. You can't say that, "I'll bet on both sides because you can some what see where the price will move". At the end of the day Btcbet.cc is ripping their customers off and they are making tons of money doing it. I totally agree with you Hhampuz "At the end of the day Btcbet.cc is ripping their customers off and they are making tons of money doing it." Now that Logan12321 is promoting their referral program comes and say he is profitable and but most of the guys are losing, cause he is very clever with his computational theories. BS  Betting on opposite sides it's not profitable, but as he says "sometimes" can be. I know where that happens, mainly in consolidation areas. After a big move price retraces and than tends to consolidate, starts to go up and down and there comes up people thinking the price will follow the big move again but then price makes a fake and goes the opposite for few candles and then it can starts to follow the trend again. But even in this consolidation area, you will have to play a few on the opposites to catch this kind of bets and there will be always at least another bet on your winning side, made by bots, which I think it is made by the operator that will cut your winnings... Guys don't put your btc on this expecting to win, you will lose. I'd like to hear more people that plays this game and I'm sure most, no to say all, except the game promoters or the operator, are losing |
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As we understood, there is a lot of competition of gambling services. This is confirmed by the previous two posts from Hhampuz and lostinheaven. At first, unproved suspicions were brought against the administration of the btcbet.cc. Then allegedly an investigation. And now a hacker attack. Business is business, we are not offended.
For all our valued users, we are again ONLINE, we have changed the DNS, so there may be some delays.
We are ready to reflect any attacks as much as possible, some bets might be canceled or we will be unavailable for a while, but we are alive, your coins and our database are in the safe place.
Competition? You said yourselves that you are among the first to do this with BTC, no? So how would I be a competitor? If you can not even handle a simple question regarding suspicious things going on at your website that's not really at my fault. I have been around these forums for a while and I have built a reputation and as such I have to try and uphold some standards and point out wrongdoing if I see any. It's not the first time I see you are trying to tarnish reputation of competitors while you are advertising the casino in your signature. Please do point out where I have tried to tarnish the reputation of another gambling site without real points being made? Otherwise you are just talking out of your ass. And since btcbet is a completely different thing compared to fortunejack it's not really a competitor. Unless you are clueless when it comes to everything here in the world, lol. Hhampuz, In the beginning, I was really thinking of this one as an opportunity to invest BTC in bo, but as I started to analyze things up made me really doubt, unfortunately, cause there aren't many serious brokers accepting BTC ..... Their just bullshit talking to keep their zero profit taking bets "business" ...lol I'm glad I took my money out cause no one will make money expect them... their funny answering simple questions..they won't cause they know that they are involved in short-term profit... and they talk about hack attack really funny, It's the false victim speech  ... I'm sorry about the people that still put the money on their fake, I don't want to say it is a scam, cause I could withdraw my money...But till when? That's why I contact you as a reputable member cause me as newbie, and nothing to do with any other sites, no one would give importance.... Hhampuz, it's so easy just look at the bets and timing, of course, needs to invest some time...I'm a BO and forex investor and I like to watch the markets even I don't put money on it... Carefull guys, this one is a red flag  hmm... have they run with someone's money? I'm not sure what is going on between you guys,but hacks and DDOS attacks are pretty much a norm in this business only the strongest survive,just look at the dice sites:even the top ones like primedice and bitsler are being attacked and taken offline for some period of time so I would give them a benefit of the doubt,if you have any scam accusations against them,you can post in the scam accusation section but just saying that they are playing the false victim card without any proof,it doesn't sound convincing,mate 1rst I don't promote any gambling sites...so no competition. 2nd I said I could withdraw my money and as I said they don't manipulate the price, they can't make you lose a bet, like a casino... but the winnings can be manipulated in favor of the operator, spread the winning profit with fake users and besides of that the %5 profit in every winning bet. The odds are very favorable to the house. 3rd I didn't say Victim card but victim speech when they posted: "As we understood, there is a lot of competition for gambling services. This is confirmed by the previous two posts from Hhampuz and lostinheaven. At first, unproved suspicions were brought against the administration of the btcbet.cc. Then allegedly an investigation. And now a hacker attack. Business is business, we are not offended". Never feel sorry for this guys... of course, we can't prove they are in control of everything, even we don't who was betting, even can be a false user... so it is impossible in this manners. One thing I'm sure, they are here to make money from us and from one day to another they will be gone with their profits, this is my own experience. They appear as humble disciples of the good, manipulate with their false good intentions and after disappear as Judas with no explanations. Don't go easy on them 4rth I have the right to ask questions if I put my money on their business and 2 questions that started to make me think twice was: When a user Logan12321 asked" btcbetcc do you also participate in betting sometimes?" and after user buwaytress posted "Sounds like a good model for the operators, since there's no way for players to game the system (what do you do, bet against yourself? Still lose out on commissions). I do want to clarify one item here though: You say that a 0.01 withdrawal will only result in 0.009 after site commission. This is a 10% commission... in addition to 5% of winnings. Sounds slightly exorbitant for me. A better way would be to just charge a flat commission on winnings, with the entire winning amount sent back to the person who won immediately. You still make profit like this, no?" As this questions never were addressed and after being analyzing the bets coming in for few a hours a day...I just thought and if they make opposite bets in every bet, the losing ones don't count cause they are the operator the winnings one can spread the profit into different players and they are there. I'm not saying they are doing it and it is impossible to prove it, it is one of the scenarios that anyone should pose before putting the money in. As I see, at the moment, things can change and improve, this is a high risk, high fees no profit or just a few pennies and as they referred bots coming in a system based on opposite bets. Unfortunately, this is not for me but in the beginning, I was excited about it. I like the site design simple and very functional. I hope I could clarify better my point and I wish good luck on this one  Ps: This is a bet where you can earn a good profit with a small amount but high probability to lose only happens in extreme conditions not often; to catch this one you have to be a robot who bets in every bet and in the opposite, and as someone said and I agree cause I tested, it is not profitable to bet on both sides, cause you will have to do it in every bet to catch these ones, so my question who was the user who bet down?In my opinion a visionary or the operator. ID Period Base price Last price Count Amounts 17606| 01:30–01:50 |4301.00000004 ↓↓4288.00000001| 5 ↑4 ↓1 |0.015 ↑0.013 ↓0.002| User bet down 0.002, and won 0.01435 @veleten when I posted my questions I invested small to test and after I did the hard job of analyzing the bets patterns and repetitions, what time they come in and for a period of time without investing. My questions aren't based on what someone else says only or what it seems, I invite you to the same, play the game, analyze and then post your 2nd opinion about it, probably can be different from mine and I accept it. I'm not looking for perfection but for excellence  I can be a newbie here but don't discredit just because of that... |
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As we understood, there is a lot of competition of gambling services. This is confirmed by the previous two posts from Hhampuz and lostinheaven. At first, unproved suspicions were brought against the administration of the btcbet.cc. Then allegedly an investigation. And now a hacker attack. Business is business, we are not offended.
For all our valued users, we are again ONLINE, we have changed the DNS, so there may be some delays.
We are ready to reflect any attacks as much as possible, some bets might be canceled or we will be unavailable for a while, but we are alive, your coins and our database are in the safe place.
Competition? You said yourselves that you are among the first to do this with BTC, no? So how would I be a competitor? If you can not even handle a simple question regarding suspicious things going on at your website that's not really at my fault. I have been around these forums for a while and I have built a reputation and as such I have to try and uphold some standards and point out wrongdoing if I see any. It's not the first time I see you are trying to tarnish reputation of competitors while you are advertising the casino in your signature. Please do point out where I have tried to tarnish the reputation of another gambling site without real points being made? Otherwise you are just talking out of your ass. And since btcbet is a completely different thing compared to fortunejack it's not really a competitor. Unless you are clueless when it comes to everything here in the world, lol. Hhampuz, In the beginning, I was really thinking of this one as an opportunity to invest BTC in bo, but as I started to analyze things up made me really doubt, unfortunately, cause there aren't many serious brokers accepting BTC ..... Their just bullshit talking to keep their zero profit taking bets "business" ...lol I'm glad I took my money out cause no one will make money expect them... their funny answering simple questions..they won't cause they know that they are involved in short-term profit... and they talk about hack attack really funny, It's the false victim speech ... I'm sorry about the people that still put the money on their fake, I don't want to say it is a scam, cause I could withdraw my money...But till when? That's why I contact you as a reputable member cause me as newbie, and nothing to do with any other sites, no one would give importance.... Hhampuz, it's so easy just look at the bets and timing, of course, needs to invest some time...I'm a BO and forex investor and I like to watch the markets even I don't put money on it... Carefull guys, this one is a red flag |
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The issue that I raised was not one of you guys being able to predict the price.
If you are betting on both sides you can go with profit since you get the commission fees either way. And you will win the amounts that other users are betting. Could be impossible to prove but that is what one user sent me with some tangible proof. I am yet to make up my mind about this as it feels a bit unjust towards you guys to make these accusations but it is what it is.
We even thought to open information of the usernames that bets, but we think that it is not so good idea. Most of our customers is satisfied and we improve the service everyday as most of our customers want. Again, I don't think you are actually responding to what I am saying. So let's just leave it at that and I will conduct my own investigation to find out what is really going on. Hopefully I won't find anything fishy, but right now it does stink aa little bit. I was the one who sent this message to Hhampuz "I've been analyzing the betting pattern itself, when it is placed till finish the 5mn period, which I've been doing for few days and few hours a day without betting no emotions in it and it seems that placing bets where's nothing to lose just wins are very profitable. If you imagine, placing a minimum "bet" on both sides, where you are the operator, the profits you will get? besides the withdraw fee and the %5 on profits...Users can profit from that as well but need to understand when to do it not in every bet as the operator can...I'm not saying they are doing it but just imagine this reality... Roll Eyes I think they are always betting on both sides as they have nothing to lose and to catch the big fish. Just analyze the bets when happens the first and second one is always on both sides" I've been following btcbet the answers to Hhampuz questions and never respond directly and avoid to respond if you are doing or not bets on both sides. Now that the bots are on the game to me is even worst to be in this game, very small profits for high-risk trades, including your %5 in winnings and a withdrawing fee of 0.001. The main profits are for the operator and still mantain the question If you imagine, placing a minimum "bet" by a bot, at the moment the first bet is around 1m to the expiry the second on the other side it's like 30 seconds after, on both sides, where you are the operator, the profits you will get with 0 risk of losing? you don't manipulate the graph cause it is really from tradeview/ploniex if can be done on the bets!!! You don't make people lose the bets but if it is a win it will be divided at least by 2, where I bet high risk 0.001 and you 0 risk and profit from the bet and plus %5 of my win. To be profitable here we have to have a %winlost ratio almost perfect or just luck in few betswhere you place a 0.001 or 0.002 in one side, where ther is 2 max 3 small entries and on the other one there is an amount of 0.03 and it goes in your favou...to much "ands" based on luck it's not for me...what it seemed interesting in the beginning already lost my interest...so Ill skip this one |
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uh, site is gone now? really a pitty
I don't think its gone, they are just going down for maintainance and redesigning their system. With the huge BTC fees we had last month, sites like this with on-chain gambling would of never survived since it was at least $5 each way just to make 1 bet. Not very smart. I think they are either going to introduce a login system where you hold a BTC balance and make bets or they will switch to a different currency such as LTC for onchain gambling. I don't think so adaseb.. the domain is vanished and they won't come back Wow really strange that they are actually gone. They're site would of actually been pretty profitable and successful if they only listened and used a different alt for their on-chain bets or added some type of portal where people could send BTC into their account and gamble that way with binary options. No idea why all these binary option betting sites always go out of business. I think it's due to the BO system itself. In BO you are playing against the broker, if someone plays a high bet and wins the broker loses high. In case of medium/big brokers with a lot of users betting both sides the losses vanish and this BO btc sites are small. The idea of "added some type of portal where people could send BTC into their account and gamble that way with binary options" it doesn't seem good cause then they will have to play BO in other brokers which they don't want, they want to be profitable from the site that it sustains from itself, that's why btcbet.com the earnings you bet it+s from the other users, even if you play big and on the side there's a small amount of bets you won't win to much for a high risk and they keep their profit from the all bets |
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btcbetcc do you also participate in betting sometimes?
that's an excellent question .... |
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Careful with this one ,,,cause profits very low I lost 0.005 then I bet 0.005 and then just been paid 0.00538...this is just for fun...earnings very low due to the risk... just bet yhe minimu...0.001 and after I bet 0.013 and I got 0.00135625...low profits and high risk --payout very low thats why They ll survive till the moment...I wthdraw 0.o1and in my coimbase walet says 0.090 but it stills pending ...really do the maths
Don't forget, if you looses – someone wins!  that's a vague concept, I play BO and forex and it is the same, but here in small scale. Hedging can be a good strat. If you lose will be small if you win will be higher. |
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I already withdraw my btc even I couldn't participate in the ICO. It took more than hour to complete 6 confirmations
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I can create translations for you for Tagalog (Filipino), Ilocano, and Esperanto. Contact me if you want your stuff to be translated. I can do translation stuff for you for bounties on Regalcoin.
shit talking |
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Next to exchange there it says convert, try that
I tested this one it doesn't work cause this conversion is from the $ you earn from the lending program. |
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I missed the ICO and I want to withdraw my BTC, but it says that I can't withdraw from my account. Send support a message they didn't reply. I think this will be a short life and I lost my BTC.
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Careful with this one ,,,cause profits very low I lost 0.005 then I bet 0.005 and then just been paid 0.00538...this is just for fun...earnings very low due to the risk... just bet yhe minimu...0.001 and after I bet 0.013 and I got 0.00135625...low profits and high risk --payout very low thats why They ll survive till the moment...I wthdraw 0.o1and in my coimbase walet says 0.090 but it stills pending ...really do the maths
I believe that you win what other people are betting. So if 10 people bet 0.01 on the price to go down and one guy bets 0.01 on the price to go up the 10 people betting on down will have to split the 0.01, but if it goes up the one guy will win the 0.1 total, I think. I like that kind of betting, to be honest as it opens up some opportunities. it seems it works like that but as most of the people bets 0.001, the most 0.002 but not many people are betting the most in one bet i got like 15, but rare and most bets in the last few seconds so you never know, at least you can have an idea so betting more than 0.002 is high risk for a good payout. Probably if more users come aboard turns to be more profitable. At the moment just for fun. ps: I got my btc back and I will still be playing for the lower amount |
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Careful with this one ,,,cause profits very low I lost 0.005 then I bet 0.005 and then just been paid 0.00538...this is just for fun...earnings very low due to the risk... just bet yhe minimu...0.001 and after I bet 0.013 and I got 0.00135625...low profits and high risk --payout very low thats why They ll survive till the moment...I wthdraw 0.o1and in my coimbase walet says 0.090 but it stills pending ...really do the maths
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