Best way I found is to hold bitcoin and short them on a trading site,the short hedges you from a sudden downturn.

I can tell you its no scam its one of the few cloud miners that is genuine I have been in the offices and round one of the data centres and I am willing to answer any questions you have.When you signed up you gave permissions for emails,to stop contact sales.support

You cannot determine where the price will go as there is no liquidity in btc, at the moment its about 15% of total bitcoin

ok thanks for reply and wish you well in your venture.Keep the forum updated a new sig campaign always welcome.

I like how you say "up to" where do we start how many posts etc???

Think we can now conclude Pb Mining is finished and all money lost,I feel sorry for those holders but in crypto currency there are many scammers.Dont buy from a company that has no address or phone number.

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Well if you put it up for auction let me know as I have friends who might take the risk.Please note I put a service announcement up on a miner on another thread

I think if you tell people up front what your selling you should have no legal comeback, so where are you advertising your account for sale David.

Hash Profit > 130 000 users. Unique 60% discount would last till 13.12.2014, there are only 150 000 Kh/s available, hurry up and buy for the lowest price. (actual discount 50%, with special promo code HPE091214 your discount goes up to 60%)

Promo-code: HPE091214
Discount: total discount of 60%
Expires: 13.12.2014 22:59 (EET)
You can enter your promo-code on Buy Kh/s page.
There are only 150 000 Kh/s available with promo conditions.
1 PFC (ProfitCoin) is crediting for every 100 Kh/s of purchase when buying 100 Kh/s or more.

Selling Kh/s feature is now available for everyone since 2014-12-08. There are big amount of PFC/BTC exchanges on exchange services right now without active Hash Profit participation, which allows Hash Profit users to withdraw funds very quickly when needed. We've told before that we'll do our transition to ASIC mining in cooperation with BRAIN company. Unfortunately BRAIN could not keep needed conditions and supply values for successful cooperation with Hash Profit (maybe they just afraid of competitors). That's why we've decided to buy hardware from developers themselves and mining will be launched near the factory to reduce logistics costs. Please be careful when cooperating with BRAIN company since declared profits of their hardware is much less than payback threshold if we count difficult increase and constant going down of profits.

This effect could be avoided following these conditions:

Using contract manufacturing (paying for ASIC produce cost + 25%, it's available when value of purchase is $2 - $3 millions)
Adding contract clause with serious penalties for violation of the starting and supplying hardware term.
Minimizing logistics costs, because time of the start is vital due to constant difficulty growing. Work for hardware launching is beginning before actual supply and the point of launch must be as close as possible to the development center.
With these factors followed we can get positive ROI using ASIC, which will be quite high - 140-170% with moderately negative forecast. Usually when buying from dealers with 2 - 3 months delay of supply return of investment could be, according to our numbers, 80-110%, which mean that for every $1000 invested you'll get $1100 in 6 months (with the best conditions possible). For example we can look on Bitcoin network difficulty changing in the last 3 months - it changed from 23 844 670 000 to 40 007 470 271. This means that ASIC you've bought in the end of summer, right now can show you profits only of 15%, not 30%, and if we count BTC exchange rate (which fell from $600 to $350) - we can get only 7-8%. And we mustn't forget about your time and electricity costs - and here's your 5%. Most of ASIC bought by users just stop getting profits in 2 months and can't even return its own cost. You can earn with ASIC if you'd sell them, because you can mine while you're selling and then sell them with extra cost. Most of users trying to return cost of ASIC simply losing 20-40% of their own funds and (as if it won't be enough) their time.

Scilled Hash Profit team considered all these factors, that's why hashrate provided by our company is one of the best options to invest to cryptocurrencies sphere.

ProfitCoin is growing, its market cap grew and now it's about $55 000
ProfitCoin price right now is about $0.91-1.03 for 1 PFC and will softly grow
Today we renewed exchange rate to 1 PFC = 4.4 Kh/s and it will grow constantly proportionally hashrate and its effectiveness.
Two big exchange services have plans on adding PFC within two weeks and that's will be start of ProfitCoin flying to the cryptocurrencies' Olympus.
PFC have advertizements on many popular crypto resources:
Bitcoinist
Coinchoose
Coinwarz
Bitmakler
Right now bying hashrate for PFC you're getting them with 70% discount (counting on current ProfitCoin exchange rate of 1 PFC = 0.00227 BTC), which making it more valuable.
You can earn much easier now by just buying PFC today and selling it in one week, it's as simple as it could be!
Selling Kh/s for PFC feature is now available.
Leadership program “HP > 500 000”. Users number have exceeded 129 000 (+9000 in last week). Our site is taking 9 013rd place (+442 in last week) worldwide by information from Alexa service. There are more than 90 000 unique visitors on Hash Profit site daily (this number has grown last week by 30 000) and growing.

Hurry up and buy the most effective mining hashrate because their available value is getting to its end - there are only 1 300 Mh/s available, we presume that they'd be sold in next two weeks, and after that only ASIC hashrate will be available, which have lesser profits (5-12%). You can't stop cryptocurrencies ascent, and if you'll be late and all in doubts - those who do will earn. You'll keep saying "I thought so", while others will walk to buy a new car, flat, house etc. Be the one who do!

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When you have very little liquidity in a market and speculators you will get wild swings in price its normal

Well I hope these people are not in Canada because he aint there no more,enough said.

Thats exactly what you would get with this a deff scam and btc breaking important levels on the way down.

Not the first time certain supports have been taken out,forget about the price just mine and save and if price cheap enough buy more.

Well you have two options sell it cheap and try and get something back or just stick to it and hope you get something before he pulls the plug.Sometimes learning to do due dilligence first before buying can save you a lot in the long run

I sold mine  ages ago when I first believed this was a scam site and lost a lot of money on it a real lot.Now that everybody knows whats going on you will get a lot less.

Well go to market place and put it up for auction starting at a very reasonable price,better to get something as nothing.

You can sell your entire account including email address but you have to find someone willing to take the risk and you wont get much for it as it is a scam site running down.Pb Mining wont buy it back,they have your money they dont care.

If its bdiff this is the next difficulty 38246668793.15972343

So are we talking pdiff or bdiff when we calculate