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1  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [45+PH] KanoPool kano.is BEST 0.9% fee PPLNS US,DE,JP,NL,NYA 🐈 on: February 16, 2018, 01:53:54 PM
Jeez, Binance got 2 rewards from Kano website which are "0.00033964", "0.00039784" lol. My "so-called 5Nd" was ramping down from 9th, and was at 8.6 when they blocks were found. Each were registered at 1.55THs, 1.37THs. So, it took 3 weeks to get to 9Th, (not full 13.5!) but about a week to get down to nothing from there.

I'm sorry guys, the fact that nobody could calculate a simple reward calculation that a miner would get threw a red flag and people were just shut and up and mine and sh*t lol. And now that I see the results, it's either the system is broke or it's a pool that aims to benefit few big miners!

I really hope this doesn't get deleted, small time miners should know about the reality before they jump.

And one last time, don't tell me "if you were fully ramped" shit when you reply to this.
2  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [150+ PH/S] BTC.com Mining Pool / *NEW* FPPS Mode / Open-Source on: February 10, 2018, 03:33:18 PM
I set my payout for 0.01 BTC and just got my first payout today, after 8 days. What's their fee for payouts? Can't seem to find it anywhere.
3  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [150+ PH/S] BTC.com Mining Pool / *NEW* FPPS Mode / Open-Source on: February 07, 2018, 11:06:03 PM
They get paid everyday at the same time your earnings are paid. If you look at your earning history. The amount in red is your FPPS extra earnings. That is included in your payment. If you click on the little i next to the amount in red. It tells you.

Gotcha. Anyways, can you imagine we were averaging like .003 daily only a month ago..? Damn lol.
4  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [150+ PH] SlushPool (slushpool.com); World's First Mining Pool on: February 05, 2018, 10:17:49 PM
Ok, so I have a setup of 40 miners with 3 other associates...

We have agreed upon taking out the profit twice a month

But as it seems, you cannot send a specific amount to a BTC address, rather than just send the whole balance after it crosses the payout...

Can this be done? I am saying this because I would not like to pay the txfees (I know they are kinda low, but whatever you can save, its better)

Not sure what exchange you use, but I use quadriga CX, and they don't charge a fee for withdrawing BTC from their wallet. So I send their and then can forward it accordingly after I decide what to sell/hold
I get what you say, but this does not say anything about my original question... Is there a way to withdraw a specific amount of balance in Slush's pool?

There's none. If you're in one of the Coinbase supported countries, you can set that address to to receive the payment from Slush then to Gdax, then split it however you wanna and click the Send button.

Edit: doing it that way, you can save on the TX fee. I mean, TX fees are a joke these days anyways...
5  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [150+ PH/S] BTC.com Mining Pool / *NEW* FPPS Mode / Open-Source on: February 05, 2018, 05:49:29 AM
Yup, it seems to be the most profitable at the moment. I don't know how, or when FPPS extras get paid out but I'm happy so far.
6  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [150+ PH] SlushPool (slushpool.com); World's First Mining Pool on: February 03, 2018, 09:54:29 AM
.0014 daily for a single S9 from BTC.com

How's yours at Slush at this luck? Had to leave Kano, I need to make quick BTC so I can get some altcoins at their dip Tongue

0.000116882 average per terahash in the past two weeks.

But past five days has been horrible, 0.0000747 per terahash

Jeez, that's horrible. Somebody needs to drop a bomb on Bitmain manufacturing center Tongue anyways, no wonder why BTC.com is getting so much power these days. They reward the TX fees like Slush, unlike Antpoo. Man, next diff is gonna jump another 11% and our rewards are gonna be even lower. Damn.
7  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [150+ PH] SlushPool (slushpool.com); World's First Mining Pool on: February 03, 2018, 02:36:30 AM
.0014 daily for a single S9 from BTC.com

How's yours at Slush at this luck? Had to leave Kano, I need to make quick BTC so I can get some altcoins at their dip Tongue
8  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [150+ PH/S] BTC.com Mining Pool / *NEW* FPPS Mode / Open-Source on: February 02, 2018, 11:37:42 PM
Hi guys, started mining BTC on the pool like a day ago. 22 hours to be exact. I have a single S9. So far, I've got 0.0012 BTC. That's really low, even at this difficulty. Any of you care to share your recent incomes / rewards 😄 maybe like last whole week? Thanks guys
9  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [45+PH] KanoPool kano.is BEST 0.9% fee PPLNS US,DE,JP,NL,NYA 🐈 on: February 01, 2018, 01:43:22 PM
Jeez 333.33%

Enough is enough you damn block! Lol. Next 4 after this better come within a single week!!!
10  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [55+PH] KanoPool kano.is BEST 0.9% fee PPLNS US,DE,JP,NL,NYA 🐈 on: January 31, 2018, 10:40:40 PM
Forget my lambo request, just a block will be fine for Kano pool gods of luck!
11  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [45+PH] KanoPool kano.is BEST 0.9% fee PPLNS US,DE,JP,NL,NYA 🐈 on: January 31, 2018, 01:00:29 PM

I'd really like to believe that, if it was tho, everybody from Slush, Antpoo, BTC.com, Bitcoin.com etc would jump over in my common sense. And none of you could estimate a reward with given data, yet everybody says it's the most profitable. And please don't tell me about "because they're not patient, because they like daily payouts" etc, now that's really starting sound like Bitconnect ponzi sh*t. When we find a block, my reward better be greater than .05 BTC.


What happens when your reward isn’t .05 BTC? I’m no mathematical genius but I can assure you that your 1 S9 isn’t going to be putting those number up. You obviously don’t understand the recent influx of people going on eBay, buying one S9 (some up to 7k dollars), plugging them in and hoping to be bitcoin millionaires within a month. Those are the people that we are referring to when we say they have no patience or want daily payouts. I just don’t understand how you could have read every single post since the beginning of the thread and still not understand. On another note, most of the old timers here have real life mining data. Most of us have mined elsewhere and have seen the payouts first hand in our wallets as you have. Over time the payouts are much better here. This block is a ball buster but the next two may come easy. I would be more conercened about the timeframe for getting my ROI back if I were you and also attempting to figure out how long you estimate for it to become unprofitable with 1 S9 per month. I haven’t used any calculators recently but one S9 on any other pool with an average electric cost of .10-.11 per kw and their generous pool fees probably is making the ROI of one S9 close to a year at current eBay prices. With the push of all the new miners I would be more concerned about being able to stay in the game long enough to collect BTC before getting pushed out. But alas, that is spec as well. Price and difficulty is any guessing man’s game.


Disregard any typos... text to speech. Siri hasn’t had her coffee yet.

I used Kano's calculator. Everything was written including the default difficulty, pool hashrate etc. The calculator gave me .1 BTC for a reason (way off), but my ramp is at 7.8 so I just halved what the calculator gave me. I know not to trust any calculator, and I know becoming a millionaire in bitcoin will take more than a million in FIAT at this moment so I was just being sarcastic.
12  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [45+PH] KanoPool kano.is BEST 0.9% fee PPLNS US,DE,JP,NL,NYA 🐈 on: January 31, 2018, 04:42:42 AM
I know, it even says "My pool- Kano.is"!

So, Workers -> Block % is my share to the pool right? I have a single S9, and it says .034%. It keeps saying my reward is averaging 0.000096598460 per Th, so 0.0013 BTC daily. I think I'm doing something wrong here. It must be "well" over 0.0018 haha. Because that's how much a friend of mine is doing at Slush. Jeez...

based upon some historicals.  CDT will give you a per TH value just pick which ever one you want to use

https://www.minergain.com/

Right, I wanna compare Kano to something more than Slush tho Smiley I know I'm staying here, but has anyone ever mined on BTC.com..?

Yes that is where I started before learning about Kano. I don’t have any side by side comparable data though because I just started here.

Why bother comparing at all?
All of these people have already done the math for you. Smiley

You won't find a more profitable pool.

I'd really like to believe that, if it was tho, everybody from Slush, Antpoo, BTC.com, Bitcoin.com etc would jump over in my common sense. And none of you could estimate a reward with given data, yet everybody says it's the most profitable. And please don't tell me about "because they're not patient, because they like daily payouts" etc, now that's really starting sound like Bitconnect ponzi sh*t. When we find a block, my reward better be greater than .05 BTC, according to the calculators I've used, and compared to my ramp progress.

I'm here mining because I live in a ghetto country where power is often cut out unannounced, and I thought that 5Nd would help the most for me. That's it.
Luck decides what you get.
Time decides if you are better off or worse off, since luck is a big factor in PPLNS.
Most miners wont spend the time to determine how they will get the most reward - simple fact.
Consider that antpool charged their PPLNS miners an ~29% fee in December ... then you realise that indeed most miners really don't know what they are doing, nor care.

My mining experience has only been now 2 months, and I started with Nicehash but they got hacked and I switched to Slush. I don't think I'd ever mine at Antpool, and I just found out that BTC.com is also operated by Antpool so my choices are clear. I've learned that somedays you get bad luck, or real bad luck, and some days you get real good luck. It all equals to 100% in the end. I'm sure we're gonna find more than 1 block a day some days, maybe within this week.

#mineon
13  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [45+PH] KanoPool kano.is BEST 0.9% fee PPLNS US,DE,JP,NL,NYA 🐈 on: January 31, 2018, 04:26:18 AM
I know, it even says "My pool- Kano.is"!

So, Workers -> Block % is my share to the pool right? I have a single S9, and it says .034%. It keeps saying my reward is averaging 0.000096598460 per Th, so 0.0013 BTC daily. I think I'm doing something wrong here. It must be "well" over 0.0018 haha. Because that's how much a friend of mine is doing at Slush. Jeez...

based upon some historicals.  CDT will give you a per TH value just pick which ever one you want to use

https://www.minergain.com/

Right, I wanna compare Kano to something more than Slush tho Smiley I know I'm staying here, but has anyone ever mined on BTC.com..?

Yes that is where I started before learning about Kano. I don’t have any side by side comparable data though because I just started here.

Why bother comparing at all?
All of these people have already done the math for you. Smiley

You won't find a more profitable pool.

I'd really like to believe that, if it was tho, everybody from Slush, Antpoo, BTC.com, Bitcoin.com etc would jump over in my common sense. And none of you could estimate a reward with given data, yet everybody says it's the most profitable. And please don't tell me about "because they're not patient, because they like daily payouts" etc, now that's really starting sound like Bitconnect ponzi sh*t. When we find a block, my reward better be greater than .05 BTC, according to the calculators I've used, and compared to my ramp progress.

I'm here mining because I live in a ghetto country where power is often cut out unannounced, and I thought that 5Nd would help the most for me. That's it.
14  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [45+PH] KanoPool kano.is BEST 0.9% fee PPLNS US,DE,JP,NL,NYA 🐈 on: January 31, 2018, 03:56:15 AM
I know, it even says "My pool- Kano.is"!

So, Workers -> Block % is my share to the pool right? I have a single S9, and it says .034%. It keeps saying my reward is averaging 0.000096598460 per Th, so 0.0013 BTC daily. I think I'm doing something wrong here. It must be "well" over 0.0018 haha. Because that's how much a friend of mine is doing at Slush. Jeez...

based upon some historicals.  CDT will give you a per TH value just pick which ever one you want to use

https://www.minergain.com/

Right, I wanna compare Kano to something more than Slush tho Smiley I know I'm staying here, but has anyone ever mined on BTC.com..?
15  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [45+PH] KanoPool kano.is BEST 0.9% fee PPLNS US,DE,JP,NL,NYA 🐈 on: January 31, 2018, 03:28:52 AM

If enough people ask similar questions over and over, is the problem new people? Or perhaps could it be the common denominator?

It's the fact that people are inherently lazy, and why would you try to figure it our for yourself or read back 10 posts, when you can just blindly fire off another of the same old questions.  Doesn't matter what the topic, it's always the same basic approach.

I've been here quite a while now. I read every single post, replies here. People ask, people get answers. Well, I don't find anything useful at all tho. Many of you basically copy what is written on the website and paste it here. I know there's a mathematical code running on the backend of Kano, and it calculates exactly as how it is intended to. And that's exactly what I asked for, my ramp is at 7.5, my shares are 200k put of pool's share of 7.158.000.000.000 etc... Tell me exactly how to calculate it, I will calculate it. Don't copy the 5Nd and paste it. Can you..? And believe me, I was here tryna learn the pool system before I started mining here.
There is a calculator where you can do it yourself. You can change all the variables pool hash/your hash/price of BTC. If you play around with it you can see where you would be at different stages of you 5nd

http://tradebtc.net/bitcalc.php


THIS NEEDS TO BE ON KANO WEBSITE!!! THIS ALSO NEEDS TO BE ON THE FIRST POST HIGHLIGHTED IN RED!!!

Oh my god, at last, someone with some real answer! Thank you so much!!! I should mine under your name for a day, for reals!!! Cheesy Grin


Edit: my calculated reward is 0.000096598460 per Th per day. So, if Kano does 100% in terms of luck, I'm making 0.001304 per day..?

Glad to be of service!

It's actually Kano's calculator hence the reason it defaults to our pools stats.

Edit: There's actually a couple that are fun to play around with for different scenarios. https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/calculator even though it's default numbers are way outta date, you can change a lot of different scenarios to figure out profitability of gear and ROI

I know, it even says "My pool- Kano.is"!

So, Workers -> Block % is my share to the pool right? I have a single S9, and it says .034%. It keeps saying my reward is averaging 0.000096598460 per Th, so 0.0013 BTC daily. I think I'm doing something wrong here. It must be "well" over 0.0018 haha. Because that's how much a friend of mine is doing at Slush. Jeez...
16  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [45+PH] KanoPool kano.is BEST 0.9% fee PPLNS US,DE,JP,NL,NYA 🐈 on: January 31, 2018, 03:06:39 AM

If enough people ask similar questions over and over, is the problem new people? Or perhaps could it be the common denominator?

It's the fact that people are inherently lazy, and why would you try to figure it our for yourself or read back 10 posts, when you can just blindly fire off another of the same old questions.  Doesn't matter what the topic, it's always the same basic approach.

I've been here quite a while now. I read every single post, replies here. People ask, people get answers. Well, I don't find anything useful at all tho. Many of you basically copy what is written on the website and paste it here. I know there's a mathematical code running on the backend of Kano, and it calculates exactly as how it is intended to. And that's exactly what I asked for, my ramp is at 7.5, my shares are 200k put of pool's share of 7.158.000.000.000 etc... Tell me exactly how to calculate it, I will calculate it. Don't copy the 5Nd and paste it. Can you..? And believe me, I was here tryna learn the pool system before I started mining here.
There is a calculator where you can do it yourself. You can change all the variables pool hash/your hash/price of BTC. If you play around with it you can see where you would be at different stages of you 5nd

http://tradebtc.net/bitcalc.php


THIS NEEDS TO BE ON KANO WEBSITE!!! THIS ALSO NEEDS TO BE ON THE FIRST POST HIGHLIGHTED IN RED!!!

Oh my god, at last, someone with some real answer! Thank you so much!!! I should mine under your name for a day, for reals!!! Cheesy Grin


Edit: my calculated reward is 0.000096598460 per Th per day. So, if Kano does 100% in terms of luck, I'm making 0.001304 per day..?
17  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [45+PH] KanoPool kano.is BEST 0.9% fee PPLNS US,DE,JP,NL,NYA 🐈 on: January 31, 2018, 03:03:17 AM

If enough people ask similar questions over and over, is the problem new people? Or perhaps could it be the common denominator?

It's the fact that people are inherently lazy, and why would you try to figure it our for yourself or read back 10 posts, when you can just blindly fire off another of the same old questions.  Doesn't matter what the topic, it's always the same basic approach.

I've been here quite a while now. I read every single post, replies here. People ask, people get answers. Well, I don't find anything useful at all tho. Many of you basically copy what is written on the website and paste it here. I know there's a mathematical code running on the backend of Kano, and it calculates exactly as how it is intended to. And that's exactly what I asked for, my ramp is at 7.5, my shares are 200k put of pool's share of 7.158.000.000.000 etc... Tell me exactly how to calculate it, I will calculate it. Don't copy the 5Nd and paste it. Can you..? And believe me, I was here tryna learn the pool system before I started mining here.

Really Dude, read every single post ever?  This was from 5 pages ago from the horses mouth
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg29218581#msg29218581

And secondly you might try the help->payouts link on the main website.


Okay, so help-payouts is written in alien language. That's what I've been saying this whole time.

Following your link, I recall I've read it over and over to try and calculate my estimate. No success.

Now, giving it an example assuming I started 17-Jan 6:00 UTC

The first block found after that time was 505456 at 2018‑01‑22. My N avg was 3.61Th/s, N Diff was at 11.159T and my reward was 0.00166430 BTC.
After that block there's been 0 blocks.
The current block is 275.66%

Right now, if we hit a block valued at 15 BTC: my ramp is at 7.5, my shares are 200k. Pool share is at 7,100,000,000,000. Calculate it Mr. Smart horse mouth. Can you..? My actual ramp and shares are different, but I input them in easier format so you can calculate easier. Can you? If not, stop giving that help-payout, and read this and that post and calculate on your own (because unfortunately you can't either).

I can calculate mine just fine.

I started on the 19th, today is the 30th, the last block was on the 22, and it take 15 days to be at 100% ramp (for the amount of TH/s I put on on the 19th).  So I'm basically 11 days into the 15, or 11/15th of the way to 100% - give or take.  Against the first 15TH, I added another 8 on the 24th, and a second 8 on the 26th. So I could go figure out where I am towards those or just wait until we get a block and then know... I prefer the later now that I understand how this works.

Great. I can calculate that just fine as well.

Now, with that setup and your ramp up (give or take) how much is your estimated reward per Th if we find a 15BTC block "right now"..? That's all I'm asking. How do you calculate that is all I'm asking. I am not asking about calculating your ramp up progress.
18  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [45+PH] KanoPool kano.is BEST 0.9% fee PPLNS US,DE,JP,NL,NYA 🐈 on: January 31, 2018, 02:53:33 AM

If enough people ask similar questions over and over, is the problem new people? Or perhaps could it be the common denominator?

It's the fact that people are inherently lazy, and why would you try to figure it our for yourself or read back 10 posts, when you can just blindly fire off another of the same old questions.  Doesn't matter what the topic, it's always the same basic approach.

I've been here quite a while now. I read every single post, replies here. People ask, people get answers. Well, I don't find anything useful at all tho. Many of you basically copy what is written on the website and paste it here. I know there's a mathematical code running on the backend of Kano, and it calculates exactly as how it is intended to. And that's exactly what I asked for, my ramp is at 7.5, my shares are 200k put of pool's share of 7.158.000.000.000 etc... Tell me exactly how to calculate it, I will calculate it. Don't copy the 5Nd and paste it. Can you..? And believe me, I was here tryna learn the pool system before I started mining here.

Really Dude, read every single post ever?  This was from 5 pages ago from the horses mouth
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg29218581#msg29218581

And secondly you might try the help->payouts link on the main website.


Okay, so help-payouts is written in alien language. That's what I've been saying this whole time.

Following your link, I recall I've read it over and over to try and calculate my estimate. No success.

Now, giving it an example assuming I started 17-Jan 6:00 UTC

The first block found after that time was 505456 at 2018‑01‑22. My N avg was 3.61Th/s, N Diff was at 11.159T and my reward was 0.00166430 BTC.
After that block there's been 0 blocks.
The current block is 275.66%

Right now, if we hit a block valued at 15 BTC: my ramp is at 7.5, my shares are 200k. Pool share is at 7,100,000,000,000. Calculate it Mr. Smart horse mouth. Can you..? My actual ramp and shares are different, but I input them in easier format so you can calculate easier. Can you? If not, stop giving that help-payout, and read this and that post and calculate on your own (because unfortunately you can't either).
19  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [45+PH] KanoPool kano.is BEST 0.9% fee PPLNS US,DE,JP,NL,NYA 🐈 on: January 31, 2018, 02:18:57 AM

If enough people ask similar questions over and over, is the problem new people? Or perhaps could it be the common denominator?

It's the fact that people are inherently lazy, and why would you try to figure it our for yourself or read back 10 posts, when you can just blindly fire off another of the same old questions.  Doesn't matter what the topic, it's always the same basic approach.

I've been here quite a while now. I read every single post, replies here. People ask, people get answers. Well, I don't find anything useful at all tho. Many of you basically copy what is written on the website and paste it here. I know there's a mathematical code running on the backend of Kano, and it calculates exactly as how it is intended to. And that's exactly what I asked for, my ramp is at 7.5, my shares are 200k put of pool's share of 7.158.000.000.000 etc... Tell me exactly how to calculate it, I will calculate it. Don't copy the 5Nd and paste it. Can you..? And believe me, I was here tryna learn the pool system before I started mining here.
20  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [45+PH] KanoPool kano.is BEST 0.9% fee PPLNS US,DE,JP,NL,NYA 🐈 on: January 31, 2018, 01:57:21 AM
Hey guys, anyone willing to help me..? I'm tryna calculate how much I'll earn if we find a block at this moment.

My ramp is up at 7.5 exactly (outta 13.5), and my shares is 220k. Pool is at 271.30% as we all can see. So, if we hit a block of 15 BTC, how do you calculate to speculate your reward..?

Thanks guys. Oh also, let's say we hit another one right after it. Maybe in 10 minutes, so our pool % is real low, my ramp still the same, and my shares will be around a single K..? That case too Smiley oh and maybe if I was fully ramped up etc..?

Thanks guys Cheesy
Well to work out how far yaw into yaw 5Nd there's this post yesterday Smiley
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg29218581#msg29218581

Then you'd have to add up yaw total in the 5Nd which would be the sum of "Your Diff" on the Shifts page going back 5Nd, but the 'current' 5Nd point isn't shown there Sad

OK, it would be possible to actually do the 5Nd calculation on the Shifts page, if I added the "Pool Diff" per shift also.
It of course wouldn't be exact, since it wouldn't include the current shift, but it would only be wrong by 1 shift, so not very inaccurate.
The Pool->Graph does have the "Pool Diff" value, but it's not easy to add up 5Nd on that graph.

I've put that into the "look into TODOing it" list.

No wonder why I wasn't able to calculate it on my own. I really think you need to translate everything that is on the site to some average-joe-friendly format Tongue at the moment, it's really written for true geeks who've been mining since the very early days.

I really, still, have no idea so far about everything that's on the site, I'll just see when we find a block. I get it, I get the concept, I know it's better the longer you stay, I know my downtime of 20 minutes will be covered etc (it's actually the only reason why I switched over), but that's it. Frankly, nowhere on the site says it! It says 5Nd, PPLNS and that's it. I tried understanding it over and over only to come back to the forum and ask what it means...

Oh well, mine on Smiley

At least you understood the most important thing which is... shutup and mine on... Grin  In all seriousness, it isn't too difficult to understand. The concepts just need to be broken down "barney style".

Haha, calculate my reward then damn it  Cheesy
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