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January 31, 2018, 02:42:08 AM
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Has the pink middle of the shift graph disappeared for anyone other than me?

I like to see the 5nd but I don't see it now.





It's just scrolled off the left of the chart.  We need a Block to bring it back.

Shew...
Thought it was me. Smiley

Now let's find that block!

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January 31, 2018, 02:53:33 AM
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If enough people ask similar questions over and over, is the problem new people? Or perhaps could it be the common denominator?

It's the fact that people are inherently lazy, and why would you try to figure it our for yourself or read back 10 posts, when you can just blindly fire off another of the same old questions.  Doesn't matter what the topic, it's always the same basic approach.

I've been here quite a while now. I read every single post, replies here. People ask, people get answers. Well, I don't find anything useful at all tho. Many of you basically copy what is written on the website and paste it here. I know there's a mathematical code running on the backend of Kano, and it calculates exactly as how it is intended to. And that's exactly what I asked for, my ramp is at 7.5, my shares are 200k put of pool's share of 7.158.000.000.000 etc... Tell me exactly how to calculate it, I will calculate it. Don't copy the 5Nd and paste it. Can you..? And believe me, I was here tryna learn the pool system before I started mining here.

Really Dude, read every single post ever?  This was from 5 pages ago from the horses mouth
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg29218581#msg29218581

And secondly you might try the help->payouts link on the main website.


Okay, so help-payouts is written in alien language. That's what I've been saying this whole time.

Following your link, I recall I've read it over and over to try and calculate my estimate. No success.

Now, giving it an example assuming I started 17-Jan 6:00 UTC

The first block found after that time was 505456 at 2018‑01‑22. My N avg was 3.61Th/s, N Diff was at 11.159T and my reward was 0.00166430 BTC.
After that block there's been 0 blocks.
The current block is 275.66%

Right now, if we hit a block valued at 15 BTC: my ramp is at 7.5, my shares are 200k. Pool share is at 7,100,000,000,000. Calculate it Mr. Smart horse mouth. Can you..? My actual ramp and shares are different, but I input them in easier format so you can calculate easier. Can you? If not, stop giving that help-payout, and read this and that post and calculate on your own (because unfortunately you can't either).
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January 31, 2018, 03:00:37 AM
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If enough people ask similar questions over and over, is the problem new people? Or perhaps could it be the common denominator?

It's the fact that people are inherently lazy, and why would you try to figure it our for yourself or read back 10 posts, when you can just blindly fire off another of the same old questions.  Doesn't matter what the topic, it's always the same basic approach.

I've been here quite a while now. I read every single post, replies here. People ask, people get answers. Well, I don't find anything useful at all tho. Many of you basically copy what is written on the website and paste it here. I know there's a mathematical code running on the backend of Kano, and it calculates exactly as how it is intended to. And that's exactly what I asked for, my ramp is at 7.5, my shares are 200k put of pool's share of 7.158.000.000.000 etc... Tell me exactly how to calculate it, I will calculate it. Don't copy the 5Nd and paste it. Can you..? And believe me, I was here tryna learn the pool system before I started mining here.
There is a calculator where you can do it yourself. You can change all the variables pool hash/your hash/price of BTC. If you play around with it you can see where you would be at different stages of you 5nd

http://tradebtc.net/bitcalc.php
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January 31, 2018, 03:03:17 AM
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If enough people ask similar questions over and over, is the problem new people? Or perhaps could it be the common denominator?

It's the fact that people are inherently lazy, and why would you try to figure it our for yourself or read back 10 posts, when you can just blindly fire off another of the same old questions.  Doesn't matter what the topic, it's always the same basic approach.

I've been here quite a while now. I read every single post, replies here. People ask, people get answers. Well, I don't find anything useful at all tho. Many of you basically copy what is written on the website and paste it here. I know there's a mathematical code running on the backend of Kano, and it calculates exactly as how it is intended to. And that's exactly what I asked for, my ramp is at 7.5, my shares are 200k put of pool's share of 7.158.000.000.000 etc... Tell me exactly how to calculate it, I will calculate it. Don't copy the 5Nd and paste it. Can you..? And believe me, I was here tryna learn the pool system before I started mining here.

Really Dude, read every single post ever?  This was from 5 pages ago from the horses mouth
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg29218581#msg29218581

And secondly you might try the help->payouts link on the main website.


Okay, so help-payouts is written in alien language. That's what I've been saying this whole time.

Following your link, I recall I've read it over and over to try and calculate my estimate. No success.

Now, giving it an example assuming I started 17-Jan 6:00 UTC

The first block found after that time was 505456 at 2018‑01‑22. My N avg was 3.61Th/s, N Diff was at 11.159T and my reward was 0.00166430 BTC.
After that block there's been 0 blocks.
The current block is 275.66%

Right now, if we hit a block valued at 15 BTC: my ramp is at 7.5, my shares are 200k. Pool share is at 7,100,000,000,000. Calculate it Mr. Smart horse mouth. Can you..? My actual ramp and shares are different, but I input them in easier format so you can calculate easier. Can you? If not, stop giving that help-payout, and read this and that post and calculate on your own (because unfortunately you can't either).

I can calculate mine just fine.

I started on the 19th, today is the 30th, the last block was on the 22, and it take 15 days to be at 100% ramp (for the amount of TH/s I put on on the 19th).  So I'm basically 11 days into the 15, or 11/15th of the way to 100% - give or take.  Against the first 15TH, I added another 8 on the 24th, and a second 8 on the 26th. So I could go figure out where I am towards those or just wait until we get a block and then know... I prefer the later now that I understand how this works.

Great. I can calculate that just fine as well.

Now, with that setup and your ramp up (give or take) how much is your estimated reward per Th if we find a 15BTC block "right now"..? That's all I'm asking. How do you calculate that is all I'm asking. I am not asking about calculating your ramp up progress.
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January 31, 2018, 03:06:39 AM
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If enough people ask similar questions over and over, is the problem new people? Or perhaps could it be the common denominator?

It's the fact that people are inherently lazy, and why would you try to figure it our for yourself or read back 10 posts, when you can just blindly fire off another of the same old questions.  Doesn't matter what the topic, it's always the same basic approach.

I've been here quite a while now. I read every single post, replies here. People ask, people get answers. Well, I don't find anything useful at all tho. Many of you basically copy what is written on the website and paste it here. I know there's a mathematical code running on the backend of Kano, and it calculates exactly as how it is intended to. And that's exactly what I asked for, my ramp is at 7.5, my shares are 200k put of pool's share of 7.158.000.000.000 etc... Tell me exactly how to calculate it, I will calculate it. Don't copy the 5Nd and paste it. Can you..? And believe me, I was here tryna learn the pool system before I started mining here.
There is a calculator where you can do it yourself. You can change all the variables pool hash/your hash/price of BTC. If you play around with it you can see where you would be at different stages of you 5nd

http://tradebtc.net/bitcalc.php


THIS NEEDS TO BE ON KANO WEBSITE!!! THIS ALSO NEEDS TO BE ON THE FIRST POST HIGHLIGHTED IN RED!!!

Oh my god, at last, someone with some real answer! Thank you so much!!! I should mine under your name for a day, for reals!!! Cheesy Grin


Edit: my calculated reward is 0.000096598460 per Th per day. So, if Kano does 100% in terms of luck, I'm making 0.001304 per day..?
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January 31, 2018, 03:18:03 AM
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If enough people ask similar questions over and over, is the problem new people? Or perhaps could it be the common denominator?

It's the fact that people are inherently lazy, and why would you try to figure it our for yourself or read back 10 posts, when you can just blindly fire off another of the same old questions.  Doesn't matter what the topic, it's always the same basic approach.

I've been here quite a while now. I read every single post, replies here. People ask, people get answers. Well, I don't find anything useful at all tho. Many of you basically copy what is written on the website and paste it here. I know there's a mathematical code running on the backend of Kano, and it calculates exactly as how it is intended to. And that's exactly what I asked for, my ramp is at 7.5, my shares are 200k put of pool's share of 7.158.000.000.000 etc... Tell me exactly how to calculate it, I will calculate it. Don't copy the 5Nd and paste it. Can you..? And believe me, I was here tryna learn the pool system before I started mining here.
There is a calculator where you can do it yourself. You can change all the variables pool hash/your hash/price of BTC. If you play around with it you can see where you would be at different stages of you 5nd

http://tradebtc.net/bitcalc.php


THIS NEEDS TO BE ON KANO WEBSITE!!! THIS ALSO NEEDS TO BE ON THE FIRST POST HIGHLIGHTED IN RED!!!

Oh my god, at last, someone with some real answer! Thank you so much!!! I should mine under your name for a day, for reals!!! Cheesy Grin


Edit: my calculated reward is 0.000096598460 per Th per day. So, if Kano does 100% in terms of luck, I'm making 0.001304 per day..?

Glad to be of service!

It's actually Kano's calculator hence the reason it defaults to our pools stats.

Edit: There's actually a couple that are fun to play around with for different scenarios. https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/calculator even though it's default numbers are way outta date, you can change a lot of different scenarios to figure out profitability of gear and ROI
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January 31, 2018, 03:28:52 AM
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If enough people ask similar questions over and over, is the problem new people? Or perhaps could it be the common denominator?

It's the fact that people are inherently lazy, and why would you try to figure it our for yourself or read back 10 posts, when you can just blindly fire off another of the same old questions.  Doesn't matter what the topic, it's always the same basic approach.

I've been here quite a while now. I read every single post, replies here. People ask, people get answers. Well, I don't find anything useful at all tho. Many of you basically copy what is written on the website and paste it here. I know there's a mathematical code running on the backend of Kano, and it calculates exactly as how it is intended to. And that's exactly what I asked for, my ramp is at 7.5, my shares are 200k put of pool's share of 7.158.000.000.000 etc... Tell me exactly how to calculate it, I will calculate it. Don't copy the 5Nd and paste it. Can you..? And believe me, I was here tryna learn the pool system before I started mining here.
There is a calculator where you can do it yourself. You can change all the variables pool hash/your hash/price of BTC. If you play around with it you can see where you would be at different stages of you 5nd

http://tradebtc.net/bitcalc.php


THIS NEEDS TO BE ON KANO WEBSITE!!! THIS ALSO NEEDS TO BE ON THE FIRST POST HIGHLIGHTED IN RED!!!

Oh my god, at last, someone with some real answer! Thank you so much!!! I should mine under your name for a day, for reals!!! Cheesy Grin


Edit: my calculated reward is 0.000096598460 per Th per day. So, if Kano does 100% in terms of luck, I'm making 0.001304 per day..?

Glad to be of service!

It's actually Kano's calculator hence the reason it defaults to our pools stats.

Edit: There's actually a couple that are fun to play around with for different scenarios. https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/calculator even though it's default numbers are way outta date, you can change a lot of different scenarios to figure out profitability of gear and ROI

I know, it even says "My pool- Kano.is"!

So, Workers -> Block % is my share to the pool right? I have a single S9, and it says .034%. It keeps saying my reward is averaging 0.000096598460 per Th, so 0.0013 BTC daily. I think I'm doing something wrong here. It must be "well" over 0.0018 haha. Because that's how much a friend of mine is doing at Slush. Jeez...
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January 31, 2018, 03:38:30 AM
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I know, it even says "My pool- Kano.is"!

So, Workers -> Block % is my share to the pool right? I have a single S9, and it says .034%. It keeps saying my reward is averaging 0.000096598460 per Th, so 0.0013 BTC daily. I think I'm doing something wrong here. It must be "well" over 0.0018 haha. Because that's how much a friend of mine is doing at Slush. Jeez...

based upon some historicals.  CDT will give you a per TH value just pick which ever one you want to use

https://www.minergain.com/
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January 31, 2018, 03:56:15 AM
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I know, it even says "My pool- Kano.is"!

So, Workers -> Block % is my share to the pool right? I have a single S9, and it says .034%. It keeps saying my reward is averaging 0.000096598460 per Th, so 0.0013 BTC daily. I think I'm doing something wrong here. It must be "well" over 0.0018 haha. Because that's how much a friend of mine is doing at Slush. Jeez...

based upon some historicals.  CDT will give you a per TH value just pick which ever one you want to use

https://www.minergain.com/

Right, I wanna compare Kano to something more than Slush tho Smiley I know I'm staying here, but has anyone ever mined on BTC.com..?
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January 31, 2018, 04:12:07 AM
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I know, it even says "My pool- Kano.is"!

So, Workers -> Block % is my share to the pool right? I have a single S9, and it says .034%. It keeps saying my reward is averaging 0.000096598460 per Th, so 0.0013 BTC daily. I think I'm doing something wrong here. It must be "well" over 0.0018 haha. Because that's how much a friend of mine is doing at Slush. Jeez...

based upon some historicals.  CDT will give you a per TH value just pick which ever one you want to use

https://www.minergain.com/

Right, I wanna compare Kano to something more than Slush tho Smiley I know I'm staying here, but has anyone ever mined on BTC.com..?

Yes that is where I started before learning about Kano. I don’t have any side by side comparable data though because I just started here.
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January 31, 2018, 04:26:18 AM
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I know, it even says "My pool- Kano.is"!

So, Workers -> Block % is my share to the pool right? I have a single S9, and it says .034%. It keeps saying my reward is averaging 0.000096598460 per Th, so 0.0013 BTC daily. I think I'm doing something wrong here. It must be "well" over 0.0018 haha. Because that's how much a friend of mine is doing at Slush. Jeez...

based upon some historicals.  CDT will give you a per TH value just pick which ever one you want to use

https://www.minergain.com/

Right, I wanna compare Kano to something more than Slush tho Smiley I know I'm staying here, but has anyone ever mined on BTC.com..?

Yes that is where I started before learning about Kano. I don’t have any side by side comparable data though because I just started here.

Why bother comparing at all?
All of these people have already done the math for you. Smiley

You won't find a more profitable pool.

I'd really like to believe that, if it was tho, everybody from Slush, Antpoo, BTC.com, Bitcoin.com etc would jump over in my common sense. And none of you could estimate a reward with given data, yet everybody says it's the most profitable. And please don't tell me about "because they're not patient, because they like daily payouts" etc, now that's really starting sound like Bitconnect ponzi sh*t. When we find a block, my reward better be greater than .05 BTC, according to the calculators I've used, and compared to my ramp progress.

I'm here mining because I live in a ghetto country where power is often cut out unannounced, and I thought that 5Nd would help the most for me. That's it.
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January 31, 2018, 04:26:34 AM
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I know, it even says "My pool- Kano.is"!

So, Workers -> Block % is my share to the pool right? I have a single S9, and it says .034%. It keeps saying my reward is averaging 0.000096598460 per Th, so 0.0013 BTC daily. I think I'm doing something wrong here. It must be "well" over 0.0018 haha. Because that's how much a friend of mine is doing at Slush. Jeez...

based upon some historicals.  CDT will give you a per TH value just pick which ever one you want to use

https://www.minergain.com/

Right, I wanna compare Kano to something more than Slush tho Smiley I know I'm staying here, but has anyone ever mined on BTC.com..?

Yes that is where I started before learning about Kano. I don’t have any side by side comparable data though because I just started here.
I don't have a login for Btc but can look into it. It often is hard to get historical hash rates, but at least we can start building out going forward. If anyone has info to get me stared, that would be great.  As an example, it is impossible to get ant miner past rewards more than 15 or so blocks with slush. I did manage to get all of their site data though. Pm me with Btc details if they have an API.

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January 31, 2018, 04:35:15 AM
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I know, it even says "My pool- Kano.is"!

So, Workers -> Block % is my share to the pool right? I have a single S9, and it says .034%. It keeps saying my reward is averaging 0.000096598460 per Th, so 0.0013 BTC daily. I think I'm doing something wrong here. It must be "well" over 0.0018 haha. Because that's how much a friend of mine is doing at Slush. Jeez...

based upon some historicals.  CDT will give you a per TH value just pick which ever one you want to use

https://www.minergain.com/

Right, I wanna compare Kano to something more than Slush tho Smiley I know I'm staying here, but has anyone ever mined on BTC.com..?

Yes that is where I started before learning about Kano. I don’t have any side by side comparable data though because I just started here.

Why bother comparing at all?
All of these people have already done the math for you. Smiley

You won't find a more profitable pool.

I'd really like to believe that, if it was tho, everybody from Slush, Antpoo, BTC.com, Bitcoin.com etc would jump over in my common sense. And none of you could estimate a reward with given data, yet everybody says it's the most profitable. And please don't tell me about "because they're not patient, because they like daily payouts" etc, now that's really starting sound like Bitconnect ponzi sh*t. When we find a block, my reward better be greater than .05 BTC, according to the calculators I've used, and compared to my ramp progress.

I'm here mining because I live in a ghetto country where power is often cut out unannounced, and I thought that 5Nd would help the most for me. That's it.
Luck decides what you get.
Time decides if you are better off or worse off, since luck is a big factor in PPLNS.
Most miners wont spend the time to determine how they will get the most reward - simple fact.
Consider that antpool charged their PPLNS miners an ~29% fee in December ... then you realise that indeed most miners really don't know what they are doing, nor care.

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January 31, 2018, 04:42:32 AM
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Time is money. Thats the thing here. If people cannot understand, or gibberish(to them) is regurgitated as gospel to them as answers, its understandable why frustration develops.

At the end of the day we're all here to make money. Literally making money. Time is the one constant we can effect, how we use it, what we do with it is all vital to each individual operation.

Putting time into something you can't fully grasp, while competitors are willing to pad your wallet with immediate rewards is expectedly hard for new people. I've been here since I first powered up my miner and its been an exercise in restraint with the current drought.
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January 31, 2018, 04:42:42 AM
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I know, it even says "My pool- Kano.is"!

So, Workers -> Block % is my share to the pool right? I have a single S9, and it says .034%. It keeps saying my reward is averaging 0.000096598460 per Th, so 0.0013 BTC daily. I think I'm doing something wrong here. It must be "well" over 0.0018 haha. Because that's how much a friend of mine is doing at Slush. Jeez...

based upon some historicals.  CDT will give you a per TH value just pick which ever one you want to use

https://www.minergain.com/

Right, I wanna compare Kano to something more than Slush tho Smiley I know I'm staying here, but has anyone ever mined on BTC.com..?

Yes that is where I started before learning about Kano. I don’t have any side by side comparable data though because I just started here.

Why bother comparing at all?
All of these people have already done the math for you. Smiley

You won't find a more profitable pool.

I'd really like to believe that, if it was tho, everybody from Slush, Antpoo, BTC.com, Bitcoin.com etc would jump over in my common sense. And none of you could estimate a reward with given data, yet everybody says it's the most profitable. And please don't tell me about "because they're not patient, because they like daily payouts" etc, now that's really starting sound like Bitconnect ponzi sh*t. When we find a block, my reward better be greater than .05 BTC, according to the calculators I've used, and compared to my ramp progress.

I'm here mining because I live in a ghetto country where power is often cut out unannounced, and I thought that 5Nd would help the most for me. That's it.
Luck decides what you get.
Time decides if you are better off or worse off, since luck is a big factor in PPLNS.
Most miners wont spend the time to determine how they will get the most reward - simple fact.
Consider that antpool charged their PPLNS miners an ~29% fee in December ... then you realise that indeed most miners really don't know what they are doing, nor care.

My mining experience has only been now 2 months, and I started with Nicehash but they got hacked and I switched to Slush. I don't think I'd ever mine at Antpool, and I just found out that BTC.com is also operated by Antpool so my choices are clear. I've learned that somedays you get bad luck, or real bad luck, and some days you get real good luck. It all equals to 100% in the end. I'm sure we're gonna find more than 1 block a day some days, maybe within this week.

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January 31, 2018, 07:50:38 AM
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cкopocть нe плoxa пyлa пoднялacь кaнo

Пoжaлyйcтa, иcпoльзyйтe Google Translate, чтoбы ocтaвлять кoммeнтapии нa aнглийcкoм, чтoбы мы мoгли пoнять вac.

Shit Carl, that one made me laugh! Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy. I had to leave a comment! Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Good one!  Wink
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January 31, 2018, 07:59:47 AM
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мнe кaжeтьcя вoт вoт нaйдyт блoк Smiley

With the current difficulty it can seem that way for a long time!  Roll Eyes. Even the biggest pools are starting to struggle finding the number of blocks that they used to find on a daily basis.  Angry  Пpи нынeшнeй cлoжнocти тaк мoжeт кaзaтьcя дoлгo!  Дaжe бoльшиe пyлы yжe нaпpягaтьcя нaчинaют чтoбы блoги нaxoдить!  Sad

I think it’s about time for the btc to jump to 20k, I think it’s a more of a fair price looking at the difficulty, what do you say guys?   Wink
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January 31, 2018, 08:29:35 AM
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...
Right now, if we hit a block valued at 15 BTC: my ramp is at 7.5, my shares are 200k.
...
One point to make is easier for you, is to look at the 5Nd as 5Nd = 500%, not time.

We've jumped up the hash rate since yesterday, and another jump up again just now.
Those two jumps, of course, affect the rate that we consume the 5Nd.

So e.g. if you were half way though the 5Nd (i.e. 250% at 35PH) but now it's (for who knows how long?) jumped up to 55PH, then the next 250% will be a lot quicker.
I can't tell you how long it will be in time, since that depends on the changing pool hash rate.
You can certainly see the Diff% rising on the top left of every web page though.

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January 31, 2018, 08:32:50 AM
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I think if it jumped to 20k the price of miners and difficulty will follow right behind it. Eventually BTC at 20k won’t be much more profitable than it is a 10k. Since I just got started I wouldn’t mind if it went down a little more. Give me a good opportunity to buy more BTC on the low and maybe pic up a few miners reasonably priced.
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January 31, 2018, 09:06:58 AM
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WOW, what a jump in hash rate.  I thought an increase from 28 to 40 was good, So I added 2 S9's to help out....  Now its up at 57 PH and dwarfs my 7 S9's....  Need to get more.  Garage has no more power though... Sad   Need to buy new house.... haha

Ahh  just will need to buy a warehouse and get that bigg ass green transfomer and never run out of power!

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