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1661  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 25, 2023, 07:40:30 PM

I was very surprised when I suddenly saw Juventus' points dropping drastically. I thought at first there was a mistake in the standings table. But after reading the news, it's like you don't believe it, why not just a fine or a ban on buying players or other things. Why should the number of points be reduced? I am wondering if Juventus are currently making an appeal on this matter. The? 15 points penalty is really tough.

It will be probably more, next month they will have another penalty.
It is a political punishment and over 2 months we have rumors for sending Juventus in to Serie B.

For this 15 points, Juventus has no broke any law

The show trial took place in 40 minutes, with a 20-minute sentence with evidence with which the defense could not defend you since they didn't know about them.


But not only this, the process took place beyond the maximum time by law.
But not only this, the trial was done for other reasons and they punish it for something else
But not only this, the other thing they punish for IT IS NOT A CRIME
But not only this, everyone does this false crime and Juventus is not the one that has used this tool in the most intensive way.

IT is rumored it is a political sentence for the superlega.



Seriously, if there is financial issues, they should fine the team not deduct the hard earning points, nor kicking the team to a lower league nor punishing the other teams indirectly...

The capital gain for the sell of a player is not a crime yet in the entire world.
They penalized Juventus without any law.
1662  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 24, 2023, 09:21:08 PM
Milan lost too and now Napoli is the virtual champion of this serieA.


Meanwhile, Juventus is the 1st team in history to be punished without any law, without a crime with an inadmissible trial.

Welcome to Italy.
1663  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: January 22, 2023, 10:35:51 PM
In the next month also the Indicar will happen.

Quote
Sun, Mar 5
Noon ET   Grand Prix of St. Petersburg
Streets Of St. Petersburg   NBC   Tickets
Sun, Apr 2
Noon ET   Grand Prix of Texas
Texas Motor Speedway   NBC   Tickets
Sun, Apr 16
3:00 PM ET   Grand Prix of Long Beach
Streets Of Long Beach   NBC   Tickets
Sun, Apr 30
3:00 PM ET   Grand Prix of Alabama
Barber Motorsports Park   NBC   Tickets
Sat, May 13
3:00 PM ET   Grand Prix of Indianapolis (Road Course) Race 1
Indianapolis Motor Speedway Road Course   NBC   Tickets
Sun, May 28
11:00 AM ET   Indianapolis 500
Indianapolis Motor Speedway   NBC   Tickets
Sun, Jun 4
3:00 PM ET   Grand Prix of Detroit
Detroit Street Circuit   NBC   Tickets
Sun, Jun 18
Noon ET   Grand Prix of Road America
Road America   USA Net   Tickets
Sun, Jul 2
3:00 PM ET   Grand Prix of Mid-Ohio
Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course   USA Net   Tickets
Sun, Jul 16
3:00 PM ET   Grand Prix of Toronto
Streets Of Toronto   Peacock   Tickets
Sat, Jul 22
3:00 PM ET   Grand Prix of Iowa Race 1
Iowa Speedway   NBC   Tickets
Sun, Jul 23
3:00 PM ET   Grand Prix of Iowa Race 2
Iowa Speedway   NBC   Tickets
Sun, Aug 6
3:00 PM ET   Grand Prix of Nashville
Streets Of Nashville   NBC   Tickets
Sat, Aug 12
Noon ET   Grand Prix of Indianapolis (Road Course) Race 2
Indianapolis Motor Speedway Road Course   USA Net   Tickets
Sun, Aug 27
3:00 PM ET   Grand Prix of Illinois
World Wide Technology Raceway   NBC   Tickets
Sun, Sep 3
3:00 PM ET   Grand Prix of Portland
Portland International Raceway   NBC   Tickets
Sun, Sep 10
3:00 PM ET   Grand Prix of Laguna Seca
Weathertech Raceway Laguna Seca   NBC   Tickets

Source: https://www.espn.com/racing/schedule/_/series/indycar

This year I may be able to watch it for the 1st time ever.
1664  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 22, 2023, 09:44:52 PM
3-3 in the end was not the result Juventus needed in this situation.

The turn is far to be over, we have 2 more games coming in Monday and Tuesday.
1665  Economy / Reputation / Re: This user is impersonating me, be aware. on: January 22, 2023, 09:42:17 PM
Yeah, he got nuked, ty.

Closing.
1666  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 22, 2023, 08:56:58 PM

Juventus injected 1.5 billion in 10 years into the market and they were punished for a NOT crime of 60 million.
I don't think it's fair if it's just the one case. But I don't know the whole story. They won't win or lose anything this season. I hope they win against FC Nantes on 16 and 23 February, so that they still have a chance to play international next year. They are currently play vs Atalanta Bergamo, standing 2-1 and that is very important for the motivation after the 15 points deduction. In the future, Juventus will have a little less money, but that might be made up for in two seasons.
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This is only the 1st part another penalization will probably come in 1 month.

It is not a single case, they transfers a lot of players in Italy in this way is a common thing here,

A lot of teams does this and it is not a crime but again as always only Juventus is punished for NOT a crime like in 2006.


Did you see why Juventus wants a Superleague now?
1667  Economy / Reputation / This user is impersonating me, be aware. on: January 22, 2023, 08:52:38 PM
I've reported to mods, in the time be aware.

User: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3530446

Nick: coinIocket$ , he changed the l with and and capital I

Message: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1159855.msg61637465

Archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20230122204846/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1159855.msg61637465


He also wants 0.01 BTC from me for some reason.
1668  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 22, 2023, 06:38:10 PM
The previous time when Juventus were punished even more severely and went to Serie B, they came back from there and then dominated for many years without a break. So if we take on a scale of several years, Juventus have not lost anything at all - next year they will simply miss the Champions League (and most likely they will have the opportunity to play in the Europa League) which will give them an additional resource to win Serie A. In fact, if they will act correctly they can return to the first place very quickly.

You are missing the point.
They did nothing wrong. The capital gain for a player is not a crime.

Juventus injected 1.5 billion in 10 years into the market and they were punished for a NOT crime of 60 million.
1669  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 21, 2023, 11:07:58 PM
The punishment received by Juventus was a reduction of 15 points. and of course this is a very large point. It's really very unfortunate. when Juventus began to return to the path of a good game. but juventus must accept punishment for financial violations. Of course Juventus fans will feel devastated to see this. because Juventus' position, which was already in 3rd place, is now in 10th place.

and with the disclosure of this scandal, we now know clearly what caused the decline in Juventus' performance at the start of this season and before. I still hope the best for juventus. now Juventus only have 22 points.

It will be not accepted. they already announced an appeal.

there was no financial violation, there is no rule for selling players. It is a political sentence.
1670  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: January 21, 2023, 10:54:20 PM
Ferrari is working on simulators right now and we have some rumors.

They increased the power of the engine to around 30HP resolving the issues of the past year.

The rumors also speak about "they used a reduced power the last year"


If both of these will be confirmed Ferrari will have a huge boost of power.

1671  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 21, 2023, 09:41:58 AM
A few years ago they were suspended for playing in a Serie B. Juventus had similar experiences in this regard before


And they were found not guilty years after.
Juventus also at the time requested damages of half a billion euros and the judges declared they were unable to judge.

Only in Italy judges can declare themselves incapable of judging.
1672  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 21, 2023, 09:38:41 AM
Juventus is not a new team in Italy not to know the rules and they know the punishment when any club go against the rule

You are misinformed.
There is not a single rule that exists in football to give a suggestive value to a player.

We don't know the motivation yet but if that is the case they invented a rule to punish them (as they did in 2006 where they were found not guilty years after), it is a "mafia" thing.

We got already a declaration from 1-2 weeks ago about the punishment, and it is not over yet, next month they will have more points probable.

It is a political thing.
1673  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 20, 2023, 11:14:08 PM
Total chaos in juventus , they even still feel they did nothing wrong and going to go for appeal in the next couple days lol , i am pretty sure the appeal will get rejected and the 15 deduction remain there to put juventus on 10th and even losing the chance to play in european competition.

Manipulating the financial accounting are indeed a fatal mistake, they are in a scandal for one more time now.


Not a single rule exists for the act of selling a player.

Juventus got punished because they sold players for an overpriced prize, while not a single 3 parts entity can speak in a 2 person deal.

If I want to sell a player for 4 million and you wanna buy, who can tell this is too much money for the player? Noone.


In fact, in recent years we got a lot of these trials here in Italy with Inter, and Milan involved and they always said not guilty.
1674  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 20, 2023, 10:33:16 PM
Juventus were penalized 15 points by the sentence, now the championship can be said to be totally over, do you think it is the right choice or would you have chosen other penalties?  I think it's fair as a penalty, even if the championship has never really started for them this year.


They got a penalty for a rule that did not exist, with a sentence already in the air 1 month ago before the trial and for a thing, they are doing everyone in Italy.
It is absurd, we will see what will happen now.


Fair penalty? for a rule that does not exist?
1675  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 20, 2023, 10:29:00 PM
This was a heavy blow for Inter because if we remember earlier PSG had made talks and said they would take Milan Skriniar at 60 million in previous transfers but Inter refused that and now he is leaving on a free transfer. On the other hand, this is also quite reasonable because PSG promises a salary that is 2 times bigger than what he is currently getting at Inter, so this is indeed a real failure for Inter Milan at this time.

Yes they refused 60milions in the summer and it was a dumb move for them.

PSG already said in the summer, to give it to us for 60 or we will take him for free next year...
1676  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: January 20, 2023, 07:18:55 PM
So wait...  The audience are gonna watch the race from inside the stadium and are not allowed to go outside?  I'd rather stay home.

No this is just for team relax time.

Usually, teams build the paddock near the circuit in the middle of nature, this time will be the 1st time they will be isolated inside an artificial building.
1677  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 20, 2023, 07:16:54 PM
According to l'equipe Milan Skriniar has refused to extend his contract with Inter Milan and he already agreed to join PSG.

His transfer to PSG could even happen this month for a decent amount of money but is most likely he will stay in Italy and fly to France completely for free in this summer.
1678  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 19, 2023, 11:11:13 PM
A superb goal from Chiesa, what a player.
Without the injury, he got he was already a 100m +€ player and probably in Premier League at this time.


Good result, they played 70 minutes with young players and second line players.
1679  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 19, 2023, 09:15:17 PM
There is some rotation in Juventus lineup and I don't know why.

Juventus always does a massive rotation for the Italian cup.

This is an excellent opportunity for young players.

1-1 after 1st half.
1680  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 19, 2023, 07:35:36 PM



Source: https://twitter.com/juventusfc/status/1616148749176143881

Juventus will play in 30 minute-ish, with a lot of second-line players, it will be interesting Grin
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