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81  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin has reached 8000$, then what? on: May 19, 2019, 05:52:07 AM
Yes bitcoin price has reached $ 8000 This is almost the year after we can see. But the next price is likely to get $10,000. However, many investors will try to double the profit. Because 2018 has brought them down a lot.
After reaching the price of USD 8000 by bitcoin, of course speculators buy bitcoin because they believe that in the near future the price of USD 10,000 can be achieved. If these numbers can be skipped, bitcoin will prove to be not a digital currency that is easily underestimated, because the observers' predictions are missed.
I personally estimate that by the end of 2019 the price of bitcoin will be USD 13000, because the bitcoin cycle after falling will rise to 1 year, after that it will fall again. Like a curve that reflects prices, speculators must be aware of the time when bitcoin rises and when the potential down comes.
82  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN][ICO][ORBS] ORBIS - Teknologi Keuangan on: May 17, 2019, 09:03:00 AM
btcdiger masih perduli karena dia punya tanggung jawab soal stake setiap ronde. masih di aktif di https://t.me/orbis_scam. dari chat terakhir dia ada yang menarik, dia bertanya "apa yang terjadi dengan orbis, apa yang dilakukan wapinter?"
jika memang sudah dapat manajer baru, peserta orbis boleh mulai berharap lagi karena dev belum aktif di https://t.me/orbisgroup dan melarang pertanyaan soal bounty.
83  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN][BOUNTY]Saturn platform Cross-chain Exchange langsung dari aset kripto on: May 17, 2019, 08:33:24 AM
Semua kan butuh proses gan , memang token yang list di Latoken sulit sekali berkembang, tapi kita tunggu saja kedepannya mudah-mudahan Dev akan mencarikan exchange baru yang lebih besar lagi sebagai berita positif nya.
mereka tulis soon, cuma belum ada kabar lagi, di latoken sebenarnya bagus cuma volumenya agak kurang bergairah untuk dipingpong.
kalau benar mereka mau adakan bounty lagi, asumsi saya next exchange bakal lebih panjang lagi tenggatnya
yang saya heran projek mereka bagus tapi member di telegram cuma seribuan, jadi efek komunitas kurang berjalan efektif
84  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN][PTON] Foresting-Generasi Selanjutnya Untuk Media Sosial Berbasis Blokchain on: May 17, 2019, 08:21:03 AM
bdw telegram diskusinya knpa disable ya gk bsa post apa sengaja kali ya biar gk ada pertanyaan yg sama
sejak 13 mei mereka mereka menutup diskusi secara permanen, kedepannya hanya akan ada ann saja.
foresting distribusinya cukup lama kemarin, dan dev aktif ngobrol2. kayanya mereka cape menghadapi fudder karena ternyata harga tidak berkembang sesuai ekspektasi walaupun exchange market sudah sangat bagus. tapi efeknya jika tidak ada chatting live maka komunitasnya juga bisa ngabur, terutama jika jeda pengumumannya panjang dan tidak berkala.
85  Economy / Economics / Re: There's nothing more happier than seeing your bitcoin price going up! on: April 27, 2019, 03:27:40 AM
I fear that exchanges won't be equipped to handle all the new users this bull run.  On the 2017 run up to 20k exchanges like coinbase couldn't handle the massive influx of new customers and I believe this next bull run will be 5x as big as the last.
For short-term increases in bitcoin, it is possible that by the end of December 2019 USD 7,000 can be achieved, and that is a journey towards stabilizing the price of bitcoin, but of course bitcoin will become an expensive digital currency.
For today the price has reached USD 5,224, in my opinion has passed the psychological price of USD 5,000, continues to increase, followed by positive information about bitcoin from various parts of the world.
86  Economy / Economics / Re: what makes us good investors. on: April 27, 2019, 03:14:17 AM
Trust is important in crypto investment, and as investors we must have an optimistic attitude and self-confidence, always be able to control our emotions when market conditions deteriorate and the influence of prices is not stable.
Being a good investor can certainly mean investors who profit from bitcoin. Without profit, of course, it will create an atmosphere full of emotions and it is very difficult to control yourself to think clearly.
Bitcoin is a very volatile currency where price changes occur so fast that the decisions that must be made to get profits should not be too long, because prices can change again.
87  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The biggest Crime in cryptocurrency on: April 26, 2019, 03:57:23 AM
These negative problems still happen still in the crypto market because the profit from the crypto market is huge. Therefore we should improve security measures to avoid hackers. we should update information about bitcoin and crypto market.
I think crime is everywhere, not only in the crypto market. Because crime can be caused by our own weaknesses or mistakes that can cause criminals to enter our crypto coin protection system.
In cryptocurrency, more crime occurs because of carelessness caused by oneself or involving insiders where shortcomings can eliminate assets.
88  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: TOP suggestions for someone who's thinking of buying BTC? on: April 26, 2019, 03:43:51 AM
Before we buy Bitcoin and invest it as well as we do first research on Bitcoin itself, and learn everything about Bitcoin deeper, always pay attention to market movements because we cannot buy when the price of Bitcoin is high because it is too risky.
Buying bitcoin as an investment can provide a big advantage, because the movement of the price of bitcoin is rising. This trend is usually long and speculators buy as much as possible so prices continue to be pushed up.
At the moment I suggest buying bitcoin and investing money that has not been used so far, HODL for a long time then sell when the price is high. This principle is the safest way to profit from bitcoin.
89  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin up to 4100$ on: April 25, 2019, 04:35:48 AM
Last month it did reach higher than $4,100 and I think we should head way more higher than that.
The price is rising up slowly and I think it is a good one we don't need to see a sudden rise and fall, I think we all want a stable price and a slow growth.
It could get way more higher we just have to wait for it ,And of course expect a good rise when the bull enters the market.
Bitcoin has shown evidence that prices will rise and today has reached USD 5450, I'm sure it will continue to increase because the level of trust in bitcoin is high.
To increase prices, there must be a need for bitcoin throughout the world, so the bitcoin market is filled with high demand where supply suffers. This will have a psychological effect where demand is high while inventory is low, prices will definitely rise.
90  Economy / Speculation / Re: What do you do when price falls? on: April 25, 2019, 04:24:24 AM
When the price falls, dont panic and do not decide to sell, we should hold it and keep it even for a long time, because patience is more important if you are a investors, so that someday if the price is good you can earn a profit.
As a crypto investor, of course, you must be prepared for all risks, because the price is fluctuating. When the price goes down the mind has to be rilex and emotions are controlled so don't be tempted to sell because it's afraid the loss will increase, but must be sure that crypto will rise again.
Confidence and optimism can resolve concerns about losses that might be experienced, because logic sided with the fact that digital currencies will definitely become a necessity in the future.
91  Economy / Economics / Re: Money Is Political, Not Technical on: April 19, 2019, 03:34:31 AM
Printing money has always been a priority of the state, that is, people in power. Therefore, money. power and politics are inseparable. He who has money has power, and vice versa. Therefore, money is not only a reflection of the state of the state’s economy, it is a powerful political tool.
For leaders of a country the policy regarding the financial sector will be calculated in terms of politics, because it does not want to create an unstable society because of an incorrect analysis of existing purchasing power.
Therefore financial policy is very sensitive and needs to be careful in its implementation so that political stability is maintained, because the wheels of development can be maintained if security is stable.
92  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Do people have to pay taxes on Bitcoin? on: April 16, 2019, 03:32:50 AM

Some participants in this forum deny the need to pay taxes on cryptocurrency to the state, explaining that the cryptocurrency is decentralized and no state has the right to interfere with its existence. we still need to pay taxes because for the further development of the cryptocurrency needs to be legalized by the states. Without legalization of cryptocurrency, it is impossible to develop the infrastructure for its circulation as a means of payment. therefore, so that the state does not restrict or even prohibit the circulation of cryptocurrency, we will need to pay state taxes on this type of activity.
I agree that taxes are very much needed by the government to be legalized because they can be a source of state income that can be used for prosperity and infrastructure development which in turn can make bitcoin increasingly used in this country.
Because using bitcoin illegally certainly makes the growth rate very low, besides that the calm factor in making transactions is also lacking.
93  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin the God of crypto........ on: April 16, 2019, 03:11:22 AM
Yes it's right! all others cryptocoins always follow and growing between bitcoin market value! when bitcoin going down almost 90% cryptocurrency follow bitcoin’s activity! yes maximum people interested to convert their cryptocurrency for bitcoin!
Bitcoin is a crypto currency driver because of several factors, such as bitcoin is the first crypto money launched, bitcoin is the most expensive price, and the most famous bitcoin in the whole world.
This is inseparable from public confidence in bitcoin which causes the value of bitcoin to be very high, then bitcoin trading happens 24 hours without stopping and everyone knows bitcoin as crypto money that can be used in more than 100 countries, but not everyone knows other name crypto coins . Therefore the price of bitcoin is a benchmark for the rise or fall of crypto money.
94  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin at $9,000 by the end of the year on: April 15, 2019, 02:08:54 AM
We don't know if that thing could happen. But, I'm certain that bitcoin will go up. Bitcoin is a living mystery that is in the form of currency. It is still volatile. There was a prediction that bitcoin will end up at 10,000 us dollars at the end of 2017. But, it got higher than that Smiley. It went 20,000 usd.
I think that until the end of this year the price of USD 9,000 for bitcoin hasn't arrived, my prediction is USD 7,000. Because the current bitcoin price is USD 5,167 and has increased compared to yesterday, but prices are still up and down.
Based on observations in the last few days there has been one tendency for bitcoin prices to rise, and I am sure that until the end of this year it will continue to rise in accordance with my prediction of USD 7,000.
95  Economy / Speculation / Re: Anyone else think "long term" hodlers are idiots? on: April 15, 2019, 01:58:51 AM
Am sure your thinking about long term holders is one sided and is the reason you are using such insultive word on long term holders. I know that you didn't take into consideration those who are holders of crypto coins since the year 2013 till this moment, will you still use such word for them or you don't even believe such people exist.
For bitcoin owners who have big capital and want big profits, they will certainly wait for prices to rise as high as possible because they are not burdened with financial problems, and when selling profits they are also big.
This strategy is not an idiot, in my opinion it is smart, but it must have big capital and no need to fear bitcoin. Optimistic and strongly believes bitcoin will become a high-priced digital currency.
96  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto ‘Won't Turn Out to Be a Complete Delusion' on: April 14, 2019, 06:30:29 AM
Have I look it before but I proven to be not a delusion anymore as I understand the way it used to be and its huge contribution to the community.
It have a big role at this new generation and hoping that the others could appreciate it same thing how cryptoners appreciate it.
Maybe we should have to open our mind for another and best opportunity. 
BItcoin has changed the lives of many people around the world, by trading or investing in bitcoin for the past ten years. There are many sweet stories that follow the journey of bitcoin so far.
In my area there are bitcoin owners who can make their families happy from the benefits of managing bitcoin. In fact, it eventually becomes a resource when there are people who want to deepen crypto in general or bitcoin in particular. This is not fantasy, but a proven reality.
97  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to make Bitcoin more approachable to common users on: April 14, 2019, 06:21:08 AM
It's already in the process of reaching out to more people dude. It's all over the internet and social media. And people's natural curiosity will make sure it gets noticed. If people are interested, they'll do something to get to know what it is and what it's for.
Online education is increasing, especially in the social media community so that bitcoin is increasingly known and has an attraction for people to use it.
Of course, bitcoin must be able to provide economic added value so that bitcoin owners become more excited and can prove that bitcoin has changed their lives for the better.
98  Economy / Economics / Re: How can we get people to use bitcoin as a currency? on: April 14, 2019, 06:11:06 AM
Well, before people starting using bitcoin as a currency we need first shops who accept bitcoin as a currency and put the price also in bitcoin, so we need more and more who will use bitcoin or we need people to use cards who can be loaded with bitcoin or with some app where we can store bitcoin and get card for payments.
Of course by showing how bitcoin works and how bitcoin can be used to pay, from there people will believe that bitcoin is a digital currency.
In its use, bitcoin is converted with the USD that applies at that time, so that between the consumer and the store there is a price agreement, so there is no difference that results in people not believing in bitcoin. Maybe one store with another store determines the bitcoin exchange rate is different, equal to the exchange rate of USD with Euros, Yen or others.
99  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is following the same path of 2017 on: April 14, 2019, 06:01:44 AM
maybe bitcoin follows the price like in 2017 up to the price of 20 K USD, the possibility of a price increase won't be as fast as it was in 2017 because in that year there was a wannacry virus attack on all major companies in the world. to eliminate the virus must be paid with bitcoin so that the price of bitcoin at that time was very high.
I don't believe bitcoin will follow prices like 2017, because based on the current analysis there is no bitcoin request that exceeds capacity. At that time the demand for bitcoin was so large that it applied commercial law, where there was a lot of demand but little inventory, prices would rise sharply.
Even though the conditions are different now, bitcoin demand is normal, if there is no drastic demand so the increase is small. And even then it sometimes goes down again so the price is very dynamic.
100  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can REGULATION Really Be Beneficial to Bitcoin? on: April 13, 2019, 03:18:01 AM
if the regulation suport bitcoin i think it will, but if there are the regulation that makes the bitcoin can't make somthing new i think it will not give the benefit for bitcoin, and bitcoiners. we all hope here that regulation about bitcoin in the future will makes big changes
I am sure that the regulations issued by a country's central bank against bitcoin will have a big impact, because with the regulation it means that bitcoin users are legally protected.
Another impact is the increase in bitcoin users because of the calmness in conducting trade transactions so that there is no doubt that bitcoin is getting wider and the price will be even higher.
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