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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts on: December 03, 2018, 05:10:32 PM
Dero quick summary:
Dero is one of the very few blockchains built from scratch:   https://twitter.com/cryptic_monk/status/999227961059528704

Traditional 51% attacks are not possible on DERO network.

DERO in single image:


DERO facts:


DERO DAG mining POW in action: https://stats.atlantis.dero.live/


DERO ROCKET Bulletproofs:


2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts on: September 24, 2018, 02:17:08 PM
At block 721000 a hardfork will happen. Please update your daemon to 2.1.0 from https://github.com/deroproject/derosuite/releases
GUI wallet users do not need to update it.
Major change that concerns miners and investors: side block reward will decrease from 67% to 8%.
Changes are listed here: https://github.com/deroproject/derosuite/commit/05081d365b991914748d151f0f25ca5dd19f47cc

How is now the distribution plan?
Anywhere one can look at?

 You can check on the http://explorer.dero.io/  or use status command in the daemon for supply. 
Will upload the curve too if required let us know.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts on: September 24, 2018, 02:14:21 PM

Dero is currently in talks with several exchanges for listing process. Exchanges are appreciating Dero innovations and technology.
Now we all know exchanges are expensive and we don't want to burn through the community funds too quickly.
Cryptopia have lowered their listing fees to 2.75 BTC. If you would like to donate to support the listing fee to get listed on Cryptopia please feel free, the remaining balance left over will be used from the community wallet.

BTC Address: 12FgmibxiRL6bbs2cgy7WrZKvhJ8zsecAB
DERO Address : dERoinCHkFnLwG8W1kUTvHEYiuq1YvwwEBG8WWqcDTf8LtVGJf5h1piVUwT1AgLAP6JqFYK947652R4 XoYqbLM3R1riDuAx6fS

Dero donation wallet viewkey: bffd60d4f5772fcf5c457c2b6250fdeb3d1a3142193d587b42558a6a1b76e69e77ec46f4a98fa6b b722fe5c524f55d14eb1058b975fdf8b81b8fd4bee0095705

Also track the Dero latest updates.

Thanks for your support and time.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts on: September 11, 2018, 12:59:45 PM
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  • Are bullet proofs only a faster way to do ring signatures (which is amazing!) or is there something else additionally?
  • Impressed with your DAG implementation to eliminate forking and speed up block times.  Why is it still 2 minutes until tx finality if you've eliminated soft forking?
  • How do you resolve conflicting txs in the DAG?  What rule do you use?  Do you put a total order on the blocks and take the first tx? I gues that would not work.  Or do you simply revoke any tx that has a double spend, in which case that would explain why there's no finality for 2 minutes?
  • How many uncles are allowed and for how long can another block be added?
  • Does Dero have RingCT?
  • Do you have plans for a POS of BTF consensus or will it always be POW?


Excellent work again and thanks for answering any of these questions.



Good questions which I have forwarded on to the main dev and he says he'll try to respond by tomorrow. In the meantime, I can give a more layman-level explanation for some of them.

* Bulletproofs are an alternative form of zero-knowledge proof that doesn't require establishing a trusted node setup ahead of time, but which take more time/computational effort to perform. They also will make it possible to implement private smart contracts.


Thanks for your excellent reply.  This one point sounds like a big advance because it's a trustless setup.

Ans 1: Already answered by @MagicSmoker.
Ans 2: Dero DAG like other chains requires block propgation time to propgate blocks. Block propgation times AVGs 99.99% ~15 seconds.
Ans 3: By client protocol.
Ans 4: 2 uncles(Dero side blocks if you are referring to them only) are allowed depending on NW.
Ans 5: RingCT is core part of Dero architecture.
Ans 6: We are still searching better algo than POW.

  Thanks for your time and questions.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts on: August 04, 2018, 12:08:51 PM
DERO GUI wallet released. https://github.com/deroproject/dero_gui_wallet

Its work in progress but fully functional. Developed from scratch,
DERO gui features:
Remote Node supported by default.
Localhost node also supported. Custom remote node not supported.
ALL communications are TLS/SSL encrypted..
All processing in GUI wallet is local: Data is fetched from remote node and processed locally.
No Keys/seed/passwords is transmitted to remote node in any case.
Even if remote node is compromised, Local wallet is safe.

6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts on: July 21, 2018, 03:37:50 PM
Any blockchain/crypto expert/dev interested in DERO source audit/review is welcome for ongoing review.

Pls visit #ext-developers channel on discord https://discord.gg/GmDgjkD

For full details pls see: https://forum.dero.io/t/dero-source-and-compilation-details/760


Pls see first how to Install GO https://golang.org/doc/install

DERO Introduction
DERO is decentralized DAG(Directed Acyclic Graph) based blockchain with enhanced reliability, privacy, security, and usability. Consensus algorithm is PoW based on original cryptonight. DERO is industry leading and the first blockchain to have bulletproofs, TLS encrypted Network.
DERO blockchain has the following salient features
DAG Based : No orphan blocks, No soft-forks
12 Second Block time: Extremely fast transactions and 2 minutes confirmation time
SSL/TLS P2P Network
CryptoNote : Fully Encrypted Blockchain
BulletProofs: Zero Knowledge range-proofs.
Fully Auditable Supply: Supply is fully auditable.
Ring signatures
Written from scratch: Almost everything has been implemented from scratch.

DAG
DERO DAG implementation builds outs a main chain from the DAG network of blocks which refers to main blocks (100% reward) and side blocks (67% rewards). Side blocks contribute to chain PoW security and traditional 51% attacks are not possible on DERO network. If DERO network finds another block at the same height, instead of choosing one, DERO include both blocks. Thus, rendering the 51% attack futile.
Traditional Blockchains process blocks as single unit of computation(if a double-spend tx occurs within the block, entire block is rejected). However DERO network accepts such blocks since DERO blockchain considers transaction as a single unit of computation.DERO blocks may contain duplicate or double-spend transactions which are filtered by client protocol and ignored by the network.
DERO DAG processes transactions atomically one transaction at a time.


Crypto
Secure and fast crypto is the basic necessity of this project and adequate amount of time has been devoted to develop/study/implement/audit it. Most of the crypto such as ring signatures have been studied by various researchers and are in production by number of projects. As far as the Bulletproofs are considered, since DERO is the first one to implement/deploy, they have been given a more detailed look. First, a bare bones bulletproofs was implemented, then implementations in development were studied (Benedict Bunz,XMR, Dalek Bulletproofs) and thus improving our own implementation.Some new improvements were discovered and implemented (There are number of other improvements which are not explained here). Major improvements are in the Double-Base Double-Scalar Multiplication while validating bulletproofs. A typical bulletproof takes ~15-17 ms to verify. Optimized bulletproofs takes ~1 to ~2 ms(simple bulletproof, no aggregate/batching). Since, in the case of bulletproofs the bases are fixed, we can use precompute table to convert 64*2 Base Scalar multiplication into doublings and additions (NOTE: We do not use Bos-Coster/Pippienger methods). This time can be again easily decreased to .5 ms with some more optimizations.With batching and aggregation, 5000 range-proofs (~2500 TX) can be easily verified on even a laptop. The implementation for bulletproofs is in github.com/deroproject/derosuite/crypto/ringct/bulletproof.go 1 , optimized version is in github.com/deroproject/derosuite/crypto/ringct/bulletproof_ultrafast.go

There are other optimizations such as base-scalar multiplication could be done in less than a microsecond.Some of these optimizations are not yet deployed and may be deployed at a later stage.
Further research/studies/optimizations are in-progress to further improve DERO network.

Instructions
Install GO https://golang.org/doc/install
mkdir dero
cd dero
export GOPATH=pwd
git clone https://git.dero.io/DeroProject/src.git
cd src
go install github.com/deroproject/derosuite/cmd/

Pls see DERO explorer, DERO daemon and DERO wallet-cli binaries in $GOPATH/bin.
This source code release is for selected devs only for personal use and feedback only. No distribution in any case/form.

Contact us:
DERO Developers are not perfect and there may be bugs in the code.
Please report any bugs, flaws found during the audit/go through to further improve the project at: https://forum.dero.io/

Thanks for your patience and support.
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts on: July 20, 2018, 01:24:24 AM
Hello @Serena,
My first reply to you since you left.
I believe you have contributed lots of efforts and time for the DERO Community. Thanks for that.
For me you are still the same kind and sweet person. Pls don't allow this incident to affect you any way.
Let the good and positive in you be more powerful. I have seen and handle lots of such in life, thanks to the teacher called Experience.
You will always have my good wishes. Feel free for anything else.

Thanks.

Regards.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts on: July 18, 2018, 06:25:08 AM
Dear Dero Community,

I am proud to announce to you the members of the Dero Community Advisory Board (DCAB).

DCAB members have been a part of the Dero community for at least 6 months and collectively have:
   - 128+ years experience working in a professional capacity
   - 56+ years business leadership experience
   - 23+ years experience with crypto
   - 1 PhD, 2 Masters Degrees, 1 MBA
   - Specialists in the fields of Distributed Systems, Networking, Consensus Algorithms, Marketing and Early-Stage Growth to name a few

For more details about the members and their bios  pls check https://forum.dero.io/t/dero-community-advisory-board-dcab/757

The DCAB hopes to use their collective skillsets to help Dero grow in the coming months and years.

Thanks.

9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts on: July 17, 2018, 03:48:58 PM
Can anyone tell me the fastest way to sync the command line daemon with the network. It has taken close to 1 day and i am still at 88000

DERO: 88710/88710 [240533/309552] P 13 TXp 0 NW 1 H/s >>>

I have tried importing http://seeds.dero.io/atlantis/atlantisDB/derod_database.db but that too starts around 90000 odd, so with this speed it will still take days.

I think you forgot to place derod_database.db in mainnet folder( mainnet/derod_database.db). Alsi it should start with 95550.
Sync speed depends on your network/CPU. It is very fast on SSD.  In next update sync speed will increase  20-40% due to several optimizations.
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts on: July 17, 2018, 03:31:14 AM
For first four months dero network was running on Monero Helium-Hydra code fork, it is opensource and still on github https://github.com/deroproject/dero
DERO network was running good with opensource Monero code till there was attack on several CryptoNote networks. By that time we had partially written Golang code and few of the nodes were migrated to new dero GOLANG code and those nodes were secure and protected from time-warp attacks and thousands of block were mined in few hours but DERO new Golang code refused to accept those blocks. In hurry we migrated all nodes on Golang code. DERO exchanges were down for long as we didn't have any rpc-interface written in Golang-code due to emergency migration .
Till then we already realized its impossible to stop 51% and double attacks with existing blockchain technology. So we decided and wrote Atlantis with DERO DAG.

For details of attack pls see ,its already on forum https://forum.dero.io/t/bizarre-behavior-of-the-official-pool-statistics/357
Also anyone can go through this ANN thread to refresh memories and details.




Every real CryptoNote devs know each coin generated on CryptoNote protocol is audit-able even after years.



DERO Facts : First blockchain to have: DeroDAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + Complete SSL + POW. Blocktime 12 secs + Confirmation times 2 mins.



Pls feel free to discuss with me something good and technical on discord: https://discord.gg/aQcphjF
Thanks.

Regards.
Captain
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts on: July 16, 2018, 04:31:08 PM
For first four months dero network was running on Monero Helium-Hydra code fork, it is opensource and still on github https://github.com/deroproject/dero
DERO network was running good with opensource Monero code till there was attack on several CryptoNote networks. By that time we had partially written Golang code and few of the nodes were migrated to new dero GOLANG code and those nodes were secure and protected from time-warp attacks and thousands of block were mined in few hours but DERO new Golang code refused to accept those blocks. In hurry we migrated all nodes on Golang code. DERO exchanges were down for long as we didn't have any rpc-interface written in Golang-code due to emergency migration .
Till then we already realized its impossible to stop 51% and double attacks with existing blockchain technology. So we decided and wrote Atlantis with DERO DAG.

For details of attack pls see ,its already on forum https://forum.dero.io/t/bizarre-behavior-of-the-official-pool-statistics/357
Also anyone can go through this ANN thread to refresh memories and details.




Every real CryptoNote devs know each coin generated on CryptoNote protocol is audit-able even after years.

Pls feel free to discuss with me something good and technical on discord: https://discord.gg/aQcphjF

DERO Facts : First blockchain to have: DeroDAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + Complete SSL + POW. Blocktime 12 secs + Confirmation times 2 mins.


Thanks.

Regards.
Captain
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts on: July 15, 2018, 02:59:18 AM
Its sad to see so called crypto experts don't know how CryptoNote protocol, it's magnificent protocol. Every coin generated on CryptoNote protocol is audit-able even after years.
There are peoples who fud GPG also.
You guys have every binaries and almost 80% of source code(https://github.com/deroproject/derosuite) prove something.
Back in our days, Never asked for any company/product's source to verify anyone's claims. Smiley . If you need source  to verify someone's claim- it means current generation is loosing their skills.
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts on: July 15, 2018, 02:14:11 AM
All is fine DERO community mods(Serena and Mojo) tried their best to damage and create panic nothing more. There is nothing to fear/worry, dont fall into any FUDs. I myself joined discord two days back after several complains of Serena and Mojo. DERO telegram is still operated by Mojo. I trusted them to create/operate discord and telegram community as we were naturally focussed on development. Everything is on track and nothing to worry

Oh quit it, you released your excel sheet comparing DERO to Monero and specifically said "Let's get trolled". You caused these issues, and we all agreed collectively to just deal with it your way at the time. You're the source of your own problems here, and the team's problems.

You only joined Discord 2 days ago because I gave ownership of the Discord to your friend TeslaR.

Regarding accusations of wanting any part of the DERO Foundation which are further unfounded lies that Captain is desperately clinging to -

Captain couldn't even afford to pay me my full first month's wage so I volunteered for free simply because the DERO project is more or less broke without the premine. Even Mojo's most recent wage ($300/month) came up short at $230 and 12 days late

It's a shame to see him opening the premine and not even offering to pay those working on his team for months properly. Instead he would rather give it to someone like John McAfee..... Angry

So I have been lurking for a very long time and would like to know if this synopsis is correct.

Capt is now also going back on his word about the premine and is looking to dump it after paying Mcafee for a Pump? Also he had the emissions set incorrectly in his closed source code and was keeping it away from the community and when it was mentioned he just ignored it?

I have to say that this project is looking like it needs to Be put into the SCAM ACCUSATIONS thread right now before He pulls a P&D and destroys whats left of the community's value.


ADDED
: can someone make a list of the verifiable lies, such as not opening the source...



Don't know why are you so interested in believing that info. You know that premine is fully intact as of your writing. DERO Foundation will setup in coming days and devs/members would be there.
After Foundation setup in max 2-3 weeks, Hope you can say all that above you wrote directly to devs in person. We can plan out some meeting if you feel in some third country.
DERO developers has enough credentials on internet lying for decades, hope you can verify those also after foundation setup.
We haven't even started guys, RELAX.
Let me know if anything is not clear or still any doubts, pls feel free for any more queries.
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts on: July 14, 2018, 12:26:05 PM
Is it still running from old developers or have they changed? In the past i mined little but i think still i am holding that.

  DERO developers are same, No change or something like that.
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts on: July 14, 2018, 12:23:05 PM
Theres only one way to rectify this.

Put the premine in escrow and provide proof of escrow.

Release the source code

Reveal team members

And stop with all the cloak and dagger bullshit

And you do the above damn quick.

Best thing I have seen, - Do this.

In progress, DERO Community Advisory Board(DCAB) is working on every aspect of the project. Glad to have members from every sphere of life and world.
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts on: July 14, 2018, 11:47:03 AM

Hello @Serena, @Mojo_LB  Good Luck for your life and Mojo too.
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts on: July 14, 2018, 11:41:43 AM
DERO team have made amazing works to keep the project moving upwards during such very hard time of the whole crypto market.
What Dero devs accomplished so far was a really hard task done very quickly and it seems with rather few bugs they needed to patch. It tells you they are very talented and hard working.
They will release news for us at the right time when products completely finished and passed all testing procedures.
Quote
There are very few developers in the whole crypto space who can be compared to them. They must have their reasons for the secrecy surrounding the project and we should respect this.

Thanks everyone for the support.
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts on: July 14, 2018, 07:37:06 AM
All is fine DERO community mods(Serena and Mojo) tried their best to damage and create panic nothing more. There is nothing to fear/worry, dont fall into any FUDs. I myself joined discord two days back after several complains of Serena and Mojo. DERO telegram is still operated by Mojo. I trusted them to create/operate discord and telegram community as we were naturally focussed on development. Everything is on track and nothing to worry
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts on: July 13, 2018, 06:07:21 AM
Full Premine intact as of 12 JULY 2018.

20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts on: July 10, 2018, 04:17:21 PM

I, too, ended up coming around on the reasoning behind sticking with original Cryptonight, but after thinking on it some more I identified a few other potential problems:
...


You know that this tech is literally the best of its kind around, you know what the potential is for Dero, even if they disappointed you with they way they handled things, and it's not like I wasn't disappointed, but I can easily look past it because I use many things and support many things in life that I don't necessary get along with or agree on everything with the people who made it..  At the end of the day, the tech wins, even if you're currently upset about it and some of the earlier supporters are too, the tech and subsequent success will move on with or without you.  I think people are making way too big of a deal about this because in reality it doesn't change their lives in any way, and Dero is still the best tech around, and was never meant to be some community coin that the community makes all the decision on.

Actually, I don't know how good DERO's tech is because the source code hasn't been released, there haven't been any public comments from the "experienced" cryptographers that were asked to evaluate it, nor have there been any updates to the (closed source) binaries since June 29 (implying no one found even a minor bug in the code after weeks of feverish work and a testnet that saw updates being released on an hourly basis at times).



There are two options to check out how good is DERO's tech.
1] First Dont wait for others , start  DYOR, Go through the already released source code https://github.com/deroproject/derosuite , let me know if you are capable to figure out something good.
2] Else see below and start believing on others:
 DERO find place in blockchains build from scratch Smiley  https://twitter.com/cryptic_monk/status/999227961059528704





Pls feel free if you still have any doubts.

Rd.
Captain.


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