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281  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [150PH] ckpool.org ZERO FEE SPLNS no registration mining pool US/DE/CN on: June 11, 2018, 03:39:00 PM

Respectfully...that argument does not seem to hold true...Via & BTC.com should be evidence enough no?
(Via is currently 1% and pays a portion of the TX while BTC. is 3.5% and shares full TX now)
If it is as you say...How do they survive and why are they the top two dogs in the race?

(And I and Tesla would argue those Math experts are idiots and have no relation to true genius..Meni Rosen schmuck especially)


ViaBTC has historically been a classic 4% PPS pool.  They dropped that to 2% for a few months after an issue as a "sorry" response.  If they are down to 1% now its likely because they are keeping a part of transaction fees.  

3.5% for BTC.COM as a PPS pool sharing full TX fees is not a bad deal - IF your need PPS's lower volatility.  

However, unless your a smaller miner (say a S9 or two or less), PPS will cost you more over PPLNS.  Its just a question of risk management (aka variance acceptance).  Slushpool at 2% is large enough you wouldn't feel that variance if measured in terms of months not days.  Kano at 0.9% is good if measured over quarters not weeks.  Ckpool is smaller than Kano, so has even larger variance, but has grown enough recently that your very likely going to find several blocks per difficulty period - which is big enough for those with a very long time horizon.

For those smaller miners "dust" becomes an issue - where your reward is less than the fee associated with sending it to you.  But even there, just select a pool like Slushpool that allows you to set a payout thresehold so your dust can accumulate to something reasonable before payout.
282  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Antminer s9 very high temperature on: June 11, 2018, 02:51:45 PM
I concur.  Its working at spec speeds (presuming you bought a 13TH unit not a faster one).  Chances are the sensor is bad and reporting false information.  If it was really that hot it should have shut itself down.

Mine on, or open a ticket with Bitmain.
283  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [205+PH] KanoPool kano.is 0.9% fee 7 BTC giveaway 🐈 US,UK,JP,NYA,DE,SG on: June 11, 2018, 01:49:51 PM

My last months electric bill came in at $14,072.82, and that was with a temporary discount of $1,584 the co-op passed onto me.

Wouldn't it be great if they accepted BTC for that bill?

No real difference besides a day or three to convert BTC to USD and get it deposited into my bank.  Unless, of course, BTC had value independant of fiat.
284  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [205+PH] KanoPool kano.is 0.9% fee 7 BTC giveaway 🐈 US,UK,JP,NYA,DE,SG on: June 11, 2018, 01:00:31 PM
Bittersweet Block day for me ... what with the 14% difficulty increase and the huge selloff in the past few hours, I've now switched off all my miners as they've gone below breakeven on electricity for me.

Last two blocks averaged 110TH for me as I also had to switch a few off prior due to electrical issues.
Oh, wow... Sorry to hear.

I've been kicking around some 'what to dos' myself with a potential upgrade, keep the old one running at a loss, etc. but nowhere near the scale you guys are operating on, for sure. Mine is essentially $75 more in electric each month; nothing compared to the $750 more in electric you guys are dealing with.

Too bad electric companies don't accept BTC. Wink

My last months electric bill came in at $14,072.82, and that was with a temporary discount of $1,584 the co-op passed onto me.
285  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [205+PH] KanoPool kano.is 0.9% fee 7 BTC giveaway 🐈 US,UK,JP,NYA,DE,SG on: June 10, 2018, 07:34:00 PM

You say that you will delete my posts...

You insult other pool miners, saying they are stupid in a thread that you own
You say that Halong are Scammers... in a thread that you own
You say that ckpool's code if fucked... in a thread that you own

In this thread that you own you rule and delete whatever you like. You have demonstrated several times that here, in this thread, there is no freedom of speech. How the hell you can use this thread to insult people and companies?

YOU should be deleted and banned!!!


Or perhaps consider that Kano has more experience with -ck code than you are, and has vastly more experience creating and running a fair pool.  Maybe, just maybe, consider that he is right and your too inexperienced to know it.
286  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [205+PH] KanoPool kano.is 0.9% fee 7 BTC giveaway 🐈 US,UK,JP,NYA,DE,SG on: June 10, 2018, 01:45:54 AM
they even called me and if I look at the phone number: +7 952 815 ... then this number is in Russia Krasnodar Territory, the company tele2, when I told them that they are swindlers, and I will wait only for an official letter from the company bitmain ... Well, here's the letter came ... Grin

The problem goes back to the early days of the Internet when SMTP (Simple Mail Transfer Protocol) was defined.  The "to:" and "from:" fields are actually data in a mail message, not handshake stuff.  I use to fry peoples minds that didn't believe me by sending them e-mails that appeared to be from "Your Mother" or "GOD".  Thus its absolutely trivial to fake where an e-mail comes from as displayed by most mail programs.

Look at the example at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Mail_Transfer_Protocol  and notice both the protocol "RCPT TO:" and "MAIL FROM:" that most mail checkers validate against for blantant fraud.  Then go down a bit and look at the message body, the stuff after the "DATA" protocol command.  The stuff there is what most mail programs display and its just data, you could put anything you like in there, including "techsupport@bitmain.com" or whatever.

I would be curious if someone that received the e-mail would look at the headers (an option turned off in most mail programs but that can be turned on) and see what the sending "MAIL FROM:" was?
287  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [205+PH] KanoPool kano.is 0.9% fee 7 BTC giveaway 🐈 US,UK,JP,NYA,DE,SG on: June 09, 2018, 02:49:23 PM

Hi, thanks for expanation.
I didnt ask out of fear of restrictions, but more curious if it would improve performance of the S9 / S9i as well.

Anyone knows if a firmware upgrade would do the trick?
Or is asicboosted equipment just that; asicboost only, specially manufactured?

So far, everything released that I'm aware of is ASICBoost Only.  Technically it would be possible to design a system which could go either way, but turning it off would hurt performance... (and thus advertising/sales impact)
288  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: GMO miner B2: 7NM mining within reach? on: June 09, 2018, 03:27:11 AM
Then BM nailed the 28nm node with their s7 chip. Time passes and the 16nm s9 chips arrived ruling as most efficient (reference needed: last S7 chips vs first S9 chips. Did the size drop match eff increase? No, but how far off?)

S3 478GH, 28nm silicon, 366W = 1.306GH/W at the chip = 0.766 W/GH
S4 2000GH, 28nm silicon, 1450W =  1.279GH/W "at the wall" (maybe) ~= 0.725 W/Gh
S5 1155GH, 28nm silicon, 590W = 1.958GH/W = 0.511 W/GH (just goes to show what can be down within a chip 'size')
S7 4500GH, 16nm silicon, 1293W = 3.480GH/W at the chip = 0.287 W/GH - a 1.78X factor in power consumption improvement for a 1.75X decrease in die size - pretty linear.
S9 13500GH, 16nm silicon, 1323W = 10.20GH/W at the chip = 0.098 W/GH - a 2.93X improvement in power consumption via better chip design vs. the S7.

So I'm guessing a shinkage of die size can be estimated to make linear improvement in power consumption, perhaps.

Here is hoping this doesn't get deleted for being "off topic" in a speculation forum...
289  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: GMO miner B2: 7NM mining within reach? on: June 08, 2018, 11:33:27 PM
I mean the biggest issue I see with a lot of mines is they are all going for high density well at least the services and business I use. So okay yeah you need more cooling to cool it down but if you have the hot and cold isles built for this kind of air movement your right as rain. Also for the 2kw these draws you figure on a 60amp pdu @ 240 you can run 7 of these off a 60amp pdu well maybe wil the rule of 80 your looking at 6 but that is almost using a full load. Granted the bigger miners with big power rails none of this really matter to them as pdu's are not an issue. When I had the majority of miners in my basement my issue was space. I had 40 miners and I did not have a way to put them all into the hot box. The hot box had proper cfm to vent it out but venting in 40 4inch ducts is just a mess when if I can do just 10 ducts I am right as rain. But I see your complaint but those of us and those who have to deal with high density due to limited room these could be great.

But many mid-size farm, like mine, have pre-wired expecting 20 amp 220V to be split between 2 devices, not one. 
290  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon 8 official specs released on: June 07, 2018, 02:08:25 PM
Tried changing the wall wart feeding the RasPi? Make sure it is rated at 2.5A or more so it has capacity to feed all UAC's and their strings.
Also, this really should be in the Avalon Troubleshooting & Repair thread...

Ah, hadn't spotted that thread - sorry.

No, I haven't changed them the wall warts - using the ones that came with the Pi 3s, all of which are rated at 2.5A.  Only running (3) AUCs, not (4) per controller as well.
291  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon 8 official specs released on: June 07, 2018, 03:45:35 AM
Well you said -1 does not work.
And you said 0 does not work.

So trying -2 first with chains as they are is different combination to try
Trying -2 with a shorter chain is a second different thing to try.

My assumption for -2 is a heat issue causes the issue

My assumption for chains of three is second choice

Thanks for explaining your logic.  Alas, heat was not the issue - this happened on one of our cooler days.
292  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Avalon 821 & 841 Socket connect failed => Connection refused on: June 06, 2018, 04:59:59 PM
Found it, compliments of Blokforge support asking me for screenshots...

My Avalons use Static IP addressing for the controllers.  My S9s use DHCP.  Ends up the DNS server tha Avalons were pointed too was having problems.
293  Bitcoin / Mining support / Avalon 821 & 841 Socket connect failed => Connection refused on: June 06, 2018, 04:36:28 PM
Woke up this morning to discover ALL my Avalons, both 821s and 841s, offline.  S9s on the same switch to the same pool are working fine.  These Avalons are spread between 3 controllers and 6 AUCs.  All have yellow lights on them.  I've tried rebooting the Pis several times - both by power cycling and soft reboots.

The cgminer API log is showing (with trivial variations):

[Firmware Version] => Avalon Firmware - 20180305
    luci: 62d814c
    cgminer: b5b497e
    cgminer-packages: 960e108
Socket connect failed => Connection refused


These machines have been working well for quite some time.

Any ideas?
294  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon 8 official specs released on: June 06, 2018, 05:34:08 AM

Try shorter chains three per auc

And three auc per rasp pi

Also try -2 vs -1

Given that others report no problems running thousands of Avalons with full 20 member configurations, I'm curious what the basis of your recommendation is?  Also -2 is suppose to be less stable than -1 per Canaan, so am again confused.  Please explain.
295  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [205+PH] KanoPool kano.is 0.9% fee 7 BTC giveaway 🐈 US,UK,JP,NYA,DE,SG on: June 06, 2018, 02:14:49 AM
Guys tell me tell me that I made the correct choice,I just bought 68 refurbished avalonminer 741 with 1 year warranty for 14000 euros,thats 510 th, so I paid 25 euros per TH,if I had gone with the S9i new with 3 months warranty,I would have bought with 14000 14 miners with a total of 196 TH which is 72 euro per TH.So I already have 110TH in the pool and I will reach 620 by the end of june,I hope i made the right choice.

Depends on the cost of your electricity.
296  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [205+PH] KanoPool kano.is 0.9% fee 7 BTC giveaway 🐈 US,UK,JP,NYA,DE,SG on: June 05, 2018, 10:39:16 PM

I have ordered and paid via wire several times without issue. I usually add a little extra funds to cover banking fees on their end. I prefer paying with BTC when it is available.

Shipping into the US I have had best luck using DHL. When I use UPS I always get a bill for additional customs brokerage fees after delivery. I haven't had any additional fees due with DHL.

DHL is the way to go. I live in Canada and have no problems with DHL. Great service and they bill me after the fact for brokerage and duties. UPS screws up every delivery

Here in the mid-west USA I've had decent luck with Fed-Ex.  Their custom charges (for packages over $2500) are about half of what UPS rips me off for.
297  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Remote access to miners on: June 05, 2018, 04:43:31 PM

If you can access the routers and IPs are static than you can set super strong passwords to miners and open ports for them


I believe that is incorrect.  Yes, setting a strong password would slow down web access to the miners, but the API would be broken into within minutes since the API userid/password are hard coded in the firmware.
298  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [205+PH] KanoPool kano.is 0.9% fee 7 BTC giveaway 🐈 US,UK,JP,NYA,DE,SG on: June 05, 2018, 04:48:22 AM
I am sure it was posted repeatedly, but can anyone help me with this since it is late:

What is a minimal non-dust level here currently?
One S9 produces something like 0.0006 btc/block-is this dust or not?
In other words, can a single S9 hash on a non-dust level at the moment?
Thanks.

Yeah, a single S9 should be fine... but not a S7 - at least per the previous posts on the subject.
299  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [205+PH] KanoPool kano.is 0.9% fee 7 BTC giveaway 🐈 US,UK,JP,NYA,DE,SG on: June 05, 2018, 12:43:23 AM
I always pay with Bitcoin.  Fast, easy, and I use coins I mined with.  Twas a bit of a pain when they only accepted Bitcoin Cash, but now things are back to normal.  Well.  Kind of.  I've stopped buying S9s in favor of Avalons.  Now the trick to only do that when Avalon pricing is compariable.  Seems those windows are pretty short.
300  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Mining Racks on: June 05, 2018, 12:39:57 AM
Highly suggest buying unistrut and just designing your own.  Home Depot has a similar brand for about $16 for a 10' length.  You can use normal 1/2" bolts, lock washers, and nuts and not have to buy their rip-off priced ones.    That is what I did and ended up with (4) 10' racks, (5) shelves each, spaced ideally for miners, that you could stand on it you wanted too.  Price wise, it was similar if not cheaper than anything else I found when you figured the cost/foot out.
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