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1  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: what are your pridictions for Bitcoin will it cross 13000usd before new year eve on: November 28, 2017, 04:05:51 PM
Bitcoin uptrend is on frenzy state so everything can happen.
I'm suggest you to hold bitcoin as much as possible until the end of year, you will see your profit grow exponentially !
2  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can maths help you win in gambling ? on: November 20, 2017, 10:50:27 AM
I've ever read history that 1 gambler able win $ 250.000 with math , maybe at range 1900++
It's amazing right ? but for this digital era, it's quite difficult to make it happen since the system getting complicated from time to time
3  Other / Meta / Re: Hacked, please send red trust. on: November 20, 2017, 09:08:23 AM
My account Aleator uid=496075 password and email changed, might be hacked
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=496075


-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
My account Aleator has been hacked/lost. Please send the red trust. The current date is November 20, 2017
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1EUHodTeytduFa7K3TZdz7ziFpPpCzfnCB
H7uSQ2RAqJxcdZlOxMz3Wv2jPYVKOnGP4/MGSTMJsGy7G3jVcTQ/Ogmxa8aXEO9xOLOnrnPf+Vvvpi6KbQJvDho=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Here is the unedited post where I posted that address: ...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg13481368#msg13481368

Already pm theymos and Cyrus but they are offline, can someone send red trust for that account ?

About your sign message above, I can't verified it or I can be wrong ?



4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: buying alt coins on: November 20, 2017, 08:40:50 AM
I'm usually purchase altcoin from local exchanger, IMO every country have their own trusted exchanger and I've been with them without occur any problem.

But remember , cryptocurrency investment is risky trading so trade only with you can afford to loss only
5  Economy / Economics / Re: impacts off cryptocurrency on: November 19, 2017, 05:43:23 PM
Bitcoin a chance for people to invest but as we know bitcoin still consider as risky investation so people must think twice before decide to invest.
When I try my friend to use bitcoin, they said that everything become easier compare use fiat and cheaper so bitcoin really change their transaction habit !
6  Economy / Economics / Re: Would bitcoin help teach kids about saving? on: November 18, 2017, 05:31:02 PM
So I have 2 cousins. One of them doesn't save and is a huge spender while the other is a saver and spends only once a year. So would bitcoin be a good way to teach them about saving? Since, mining bitcoin is the only way to make alot of bitcoin, I would use a alt wallet to show them what happens if you spend and don't save. What do you think?

yeah maybe we can give understanding to the children about the benefits and advantages of saving with bitcoin as an example

But it's still complicated for them to learn how to use internet + money.
They should learn from how to use fiat wisely and then step by step , they will figure it out how to use bitcoin in proper way
7  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Would it be legal to create new crypto? on: November 17, 2017, 04:00:33 PM
I think not, but it depends on the laws of your country

Although my government forbid bitcoin usage but my people still able create ICO and use it without being fear breaking the law
As we can see also, there are many ICO occur recently !
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Lydian ICO Shutting down! Congratulation to the community ..One Scam down on: November 16, 2017, 03:23:53 PM
It's seems shady operation although they have good promotion in their face.
Theymos also decide to decline their ICO on advertise so it's convince me a lot that this ICO will end into scam although it's not 100% so just becareful guys !
9  Economy / Speculation / Re: Best Time To Buy Bitcoin ! Buy Buy Bitcoin ! on: November 15, 2017, 10:21:25 AM
My people still afraid of bitcoin because the value still volatile and their government also not support bitcoin
But IMO if you have enough money and dare to take the risk of investation , it's worth to invest on bitcoin ! ( hold at least 1 year, PROFIT ! )
10  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Too late to get involved into Bitcoin? on: November 14, 2017, 07:52:24 AM
Why are so many people asking that is it too late to get involved in bitcoin. I will share my short story. I heard the word bitcoin 3 years ago but I completely ignored it and last August, I decided to get involved with bitcoin and its never too late for me even the price of bitcoin that time is around 4k already. Its never been late to get involved with bitcoin, the price wil increase in the next years so better invest now if you have enough money to invest if you want to gain high profit in the long time.

Some people still not trust or believe bitcoin able to make people rich and yes the fact is it's happen to me.
So if only I knew bitcoin since 2010, I will be a millionaire but I knew bitcoin on 2014 already made me rich 25x times from initial deposit
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Who uses myetherwallet? on: November 09, 2017, 04:11:15 AM
Who uses this wallet? - https://www.myetherwallet.com/
What say about him?

I am using MEW (MyEtherWallet). Because of this it is necessary to claim the bounty in my campaigns. It's all in one wallet so it's easy to handle coins. It's only easy for hackers to attack because of their poor security. You can not just log into phishing sites because your Tokens are sure to be stolen because the hacker has access to your wallet
I use their offline signing option (for large amounts) and I think it is perfect. The signed transaction comes also back as a QR code; so you can scan it with your smartphone from an air-gap computer; never a private key on a computer connected to the internet.

Usually I trade bitcoin and almost never touch other coin beside bitcoin. After many ICO occur recently attract my Attention to learn more about MEW
At first glance, it's not difficult to learn all feature on MEW because I'm already advance using online wallet like blockchain
12  Economy / Economics / Re: DON'T DO PANIC SELLING !!! on: November 07, 2017, 11:07:36 AM
I never panic sell bitcoin. after the March crash.
Do not panic if the price of bitcoin goes down and do not ever sell it if the price of bitcoin become cheap. You must hold your bitcoin if you want to gain more income and we all know holding of bitcoin is one of the best way to gain income and it is very effective.

If that happen, I can control myself to hold bitcoin since I trust that bitcoin able reach $ 10.000 or even $ 100.000 one day
Sometimes it's difficult to predict but as long as I've faith on bitcoin
13  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: November 05, 2017, 04:41:52 PM
I see many people including me are not happy with the house edge of the hi-lo games, I wonder why wetsuit is not considering to reduce it a little bit or even better reduce it like usual dice game (1%). I think it will be a great movement for them and many of their user or new user will not so worry to play hi-lo games with their own deposit.


Freebitco,in is not the best site for playing especially for real deposit since their HE quite high and their provably fair still being question.
I'm ever tried for martiangle 50% for first run and the result was 18 bet red streak !
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Have you make money from ICO? on: November 05, 2017, 06:03:12 AM
An initial coin offering is similar in concept to an initial public offering (IPO), both a process in which companies raise capital, while an ICO is an investment that gives the investor a cryptocoin, more commonly known as a coin or a token in return for investment, which is quite different to the issuance of securities as is the case in an IPO investment. Do you invest in ICO? and has you make money from it?

I invested recently in few new ICO's, but is really very hard - I don't recommend this to a not experienced user. First thing you need to wait really long time for good return, you can flip coins in short term too. Timing when buy and sell is crucial. I don't expect any real profits in less than 18 months because any good ICO need time to develop and progress. 

So before try to invest on some ICO, it's better to check their feedback ,right ?
There are a lot scam ICO so it's difficult gain new investor trust to join the crowdsale
15  Economy / Economics / Re: Generating Passive Income on: November 04, 2017, 06:22:51 PM
You can also deal with bitcoin mining or other cryptocurrencies, but for mining you will certainly have to spend a lot of money.  And besides bitcoin you also need monitoring stable cryptocurrencies such as etherium, litecoin, ripple, monero or other cryptocurrencies, at the moment, of course, there is nothing better than bitcoin.

Mining is not worth for try at the moment , IMO
I'm usually earn passive income from my speech on local forum since I've been trust as a speaker for bitcoin so yeah.. there is a lot way to earn bitcoin without spending too much expense
16  Economy / Economics / Re: Easiest way to make BTC? on: November 03, 2017, 04:23:06 AM
Yeah, what's the easiest way to make the most BTC? I remember a pal how he made some currency to 1 BTC in an evening, something with Amazon. But I guess such things are gone.

Daytrading right now but I am not that good at it. Bots? Do I have to make my own?

The easiest way would be to some freebitcoin sites and faucets but it is not the most efficient way to earn. The most efficient ways to earn bitcoins requires more effort and skills and it also carries some risks.

I'm usually purchase bitcoin with my own salary every month. As for now it's worth to keep invest bitcoin especially when bitcoin getting pump at the moment. I'm also have my own shop that accept bitcoin as alternate transaction and it's great to make income with investation, double profit !
17  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Mari Berkenalan dengan Bitcoin Lebih Dekat on: November 01, 2017, 05:43:49 PM
BITCOIN

Cina melarang bitcoin, melarang ICO, melarang exchanger
Korea Selatan melarang bitcoin, Indonesia melarang bitcoin (note: yg dilarang adalah penggunaan bitcoin sbg alat transaksi di dalam Penyelenggara Jasa Sistem Pembayaran), Bank Central Brazil melarang bitcoin .... dll, dst.

Begitulah berita berita yang beredar di media mainstream, tahukah kalian bahwa Bitcoin dinyatakan Fraud, Fad, Bubble, Crazy, Worthless, Illegal, pembiayaan teroris, pembiayaan kriminal, bitcoin itu MATI, GAGAL, dead dll, ternyata bitcoin sudah sejak lama dinyatakan demikian. Kalian bisa mengikuti sejarah perjalanan bitcoin dinyatakan gagal dan mati disini : https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoinobituaries/

Sebelum jump to conclusion, mari kita bahas mengenai apa sih bitcoin?

Kita mulai dari Sejarah Bitcoin (jasmerah, jangan melupakan sejarah ;p).

Tahun 2008 adalah puncak krisis keuangan dunia, kalian tentu ingat dunia finansial heboh dengan banyaknya kasus bank dan lembaga keuangan lainya FRAUD dan BANGKRUT, betapa lembaga keuangan besar yang kita yakini bermartabat terpercaya berbisnis dengan etika dan kontrol ketat, jebule .... (bagi yang suka film bisa tonton film2 ini : Big Short, Too Big to Fail, Inside Job, Capitalism a Love Story, Wall Street 1&2, film2 tersebut menggambarkan peristiwa krisis keuangan dunia).

Pada tanggal 3 oktober 2008, seseorang atau sekelompok orang dgn pseudoname Satoshi Nakamoto (sampai dgn sekarang kita belum tau siapa sebenarnya dia) disebuah mailing list cypherpunk mengatakan bahwa dia menemukan cara mengatasi problem di computer science, menerbitkan white paper tentang bitcoin dan mengimplementasikan di software. Kemudian dia mengundang orang untuk running software tersebut, bisa di laptop, bisa di desk top yang terhubung dengan internet. Jika kita menjalankan program ini dan terhubung dg internet maka akan mencari orang lain (komputer lain) yang menjalankan program ini secara random, menciptakan network yang saling terhubung disebut Peer to Peer Network. Peserta network ini Equal, tidak ada special computer, komputer ini saling "berbicara" satu dengan yg lain. Network ini digunakan untuk bertukar (exchange) dan menyebarluaskan transaksi, transaksi tersebut bersifat digital dan encoded dan berisi tentang transfer of value dan validasi. TIDAK ADA YANG MENGONTROL sistem ini (Poin ini sangat penting untuk dipahami sehingga perlu saya gunakan huruf besar). Jaringan Network ini running pada January 2009.

Sebuah sistem yang berjalan secara independen dari authority, dari institusi, sebuah sistem yang membangun kepercayaan trust sebagai hasil dari kolaborasi, komunikasi dan komputasi melalui cryptography tercipta. Sistem ini membolehkan orang transfer value, mengirimkan uang.
Uang ini disebut Bitcoin

Didalam bentuknya sebagai uang, bitcoin itu maya, tidak ada bentuk fisiknya, hanya uang digital, Bitcoin tidak dicatatkan di dalam database perusahaan atau pemerintah, bukan uang digital yang mewakili hutang kepada bank sentral atau pemerintah, bukan uang berbentuk digital yang dikeluarkan oleh negara berdaulat, atau raja, atau bank sentral. Bitcoin ini merupakan hasil komputasi yang kompleks, dicatatkan secara serentak di setiap komputer yang berpatisipasi di jaringan network bitcoin dan divalidasi secara independen oleh komputer yang berpatisipasi dalam jaringan network bitcoin. Tidak bisa di palsukan, tidak bisa diduplikasikan, tidak bisa di sensor, tidak bisa disita atau dibekukan. Bisa ditransfer ke seluruh dunia, Nilainya tidak bisa di kontrol, penerbitannya tidak bisa dikontrol, kepemilikannya tidak bisa di kontrol. Tidak perlu ijin siapapun.

Ketika kita bertransaksi bitcoin, kita tidak memerlukan ID, tidak memerlukan alamat rumah, DOB, age, sex, gender, agama, nationality, spouse name, nomer telp, saudara yg bisa dihub dan tetek bengek lainya, cukup alamat wallet, kirim dan terima bitcoin semudah kirim email.

Dalam sejarahnya ketika bertransaksi dengan uang atau apapun yang bernilai, orang dan dunia bisnis mengandalkan pihak ketiga (misalnya pemerintah atau bank) untuk menjaga kepercayaan dan kepastian. Pihak ketiga ini menjalankan tugasnya menjaga trust dan kepastian dengan cara misalnya menyimpan record transaksi, mengauthentifikasi, memvalidasi. Kebutuhan pihak ketiga ini sangat perlu terutama transaksi digital, aset digital semisal saham, uang, intelectual property sangat mudah diproduksi (diduplikat) dikenal sebagai 'double spending problem' (tindakan menggunakan unit nilai lebih dari sekali). Bitcoin dengan tehnologinya blockchain menggantikan peran pihak ketiga tersebut diatas. Bitcoin merubah kepercayaan terhadap pihak ketiga digantikan kepercayaan terhadap network.

Sifat bitcoin yang decentralized, world wide, independen, instant, anti counterfeid, tidak ada perusahaan/negara/bank sentral yang menciptakan, menciptakan masa depan yang sangat menarik dengan kemungkinan kemungkinannya dan (mungkin) sangat mencemaskan bagi sebagian pihak. Menarik ketika beberapa waktu lalu Presiden Obama (ktk masih jadi presiden) berkomentar mengenai "have swiss bank account in a pocket and state cannot do anything" (*note: Obama berbicara dalam konteks security ketika ada masalah dalam enkripsi iphone yg tidak bisa dibuka, bitcoin punya karakteristik seperti yg dia bilang), tersirat kebingungan negara menghadapi disruption in financial industry ini. Beberapa negara sudah mengadopsi atau bahkan sudah melegalkan penggunaan bitcoin sebagai mata uang, Jepang dan beberapa negara di eropa bersahabat dengan bitcoin, Pada saat ini penggunaan bitcoin sebagai currency semakin lama semakin besar, setelah phase perkenalan sekarang mulai phase adoption. Kembali ke atas, jadi silahkan nilai sendiri apakah bitcoin gagal atau justru awal dari disruption in financial industry.

Link :
Legalitas bitcoin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_bitcoin_by_country_or_territory

Source : crypthor, presentasi Antonopoulos, youtube, cnbc



Semoga semakin dekat dan semakin kenal dengan bitcoin yang sekarang harga nya uda meroket menjadi RP 89 juta  Grin
18  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Investing all my savings! on: October 31, 2017, 02:02:58 AM
I think investing all the savings in trading is a great idea. for the long term will benefit because the prices are down and up .. but you also have to be good at taking steps when you should trade all your coins

Investing all of your saving consider as brave decision and you dare to take the risk.
As we know bitcoin already make a promising value over 7 years so investing a lot will make you rich in the future.

The question is : Are you dare enough to invest a least 1 btc on 2021 ?
19  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Why hasn't any government stopped Bitcoin? on: October 28, 2017, 06:36:18 PM
Because government ,themselves, also use it. Some politicians might also use Bitcoin hide a large amount of money inside the cryptocurrency.

My government is not legalized bitcoin instead they forbid bitcoin for using as transaction.
Luckily I still can own bitcoin without fear getting arrest by law enforcer because they still not make the regulation toward bitcoin

It's sad to see my government choosing this way ...
20  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Investing all my savings! on: October 25, 2017, 04:42:44 PM
I can see that you prefer on bitcoin so let say if you hold until next 4 year and only bitcoin able to survive than you made significant amount of profit.
But if altcoin able to survive, you're experience quite major loss.
For me personally, I will keep 100% bitcoin for next 4 years !
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