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121  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [IOTA] IOTA Speculation on: March 23, 2016, 05:15:17 PM
me and a friend are selling 200k IOTA for 10 BTC in total, the friend is holding the coins. With escrow of course!

Wow the price has really skyrocketed.

It's not the price. It's just a sell offer.


Half that iota has sold at half that price. It was the same amount per iota (100,000 for 5 BTC. @ 5000 satoshi). Of course to be fair it didn't happen until after you wrote this.

It's no surprise because its still so low compared to other projects of lesser caliber trading for much, much more. We are still far from establishing it's true value. The IOU factor is pulling the price down considerably lower than what it will be once buyers are receiving their coins at the time of sale.

There's a risk involved, people can get screwed. The buyers that take this risk, and receive their coins will be rewarded. I can't see the risk being gone and the coins costing less.

I say this because that would mean that there would be LESS demand for Iotas. How could the demand go down once there is less risk. That would mean that more people would rather buy iotas and risk not getting them, than people wanting to buy iotas with a guarantee of getting them.

So the demand will rise with every buyer who would not take that risk entering the market.

So those who take the risk will get paid for taking that chance, as long as they found someone who will send them their coins. That's the only way I see them failing to make a profit. Barring the Tangle failing to work, which I see as extremely unlikely with CFB at the helm and successful testing currently.

O'la to iota participants,

  through observation & a glipse into Cfb vision, not to
Often does somethg come along & attract a great deal
Of amount of attention, unless theres a demand for it.

Could it be Iota maybe one of those once in a life time
projects that embodies a certain kind of new energy,
its innovation [Tangle] is being sort after by
big interest groups, partnerships underway,
alliances forming, & undeniably major corporate interest in iota may jus be sign of things to come.

Usually one have to read between the lines to
to know when that special somethg arrives & by being
a visionary, positioning yourselves early, you'll
More than likely to be handsomely rewarded
for your belief when Many others lacked foresight.

A paradigm shift occurring & the advancement
Of blockchain & related innovation at some
Point will have transformed & intercepted every industry in the financial & non-financial sector

Mainstream Adoption is the key leading ingredient
For any crypto 2.o - crypto 3.o project seeking longivity.

Iota high volume OTC trades & slight constant rise
in value each & every day, is a very strong indication of somthing big.
It appears by the time it reaches an exchange there will be herd of panic buying tryna to their hands on as many iota they can get.

Peer2peer360

122  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token on: March 23, 2016, 02:30:00 AM
Interesting...

   Umm, performing due diligence.
   I shall further my research into
   Sollars & Sense..

  peer2peer360

 
123  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: March 22, 2016, 09:12:11 PM
I could be wrong usually & normally I am.

Sam Walton, founder of the corpoarate giant walmart
Learn how to build his business by visiting & doing
a price analysis, price comparison at K-mart...
It was known Sam Walton of walmart got
Caught numerous times in
Kmart store & had to be escorted out the store..
Heres why because he was learning
his competition from the inside out... (art~of~war)

hence, if Lisk is to gain a footing of the Dapp market
& Capitalize on this exciting trend then Lisk has to
make smarter moves than Ether, it must learn what
Ether isn't doing & build on that, what are Ether weaknesses & take advantage of that?

Does Lisk have what it take to slice the pie
and gain a market share of ether.

Attracting the right talent to Lisk, is one of the main
Objectives. Building Dapps & getting this project ready
for lift off in the up coming weeks ahead.
many are hopeful that Lisk can
deliver with very resourceful budget now.

Launch set
Date: 2016/4/11 [subject to change]  

P2p360
124  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: March 22, 2016, 11:00:39 AM
Forecasting ahead (prophetizing) Lisk potential
Going forward..

Remember google/apple/microsoft early on
Would you invest in those companies knowing
What you know today...

Fast foward into Lisk future... remember Lisk
years ago successful ico (3rd highest in crypto)
History.. decentralize application platform yeah,
what will likely become holygrounds for
Javascript developer's for all things blockchain related.

Lisk has the potential to become a house hold name
And It's one of investors most anticipated
crypto 2.0 projects to launch this year.  

As the excitement of Lisk grows, so does
the community which means there are
or will likely be an rapidly growing increase in new
contributors in Lisk project as time goes on.

Here is what is either happening right now or about to.
 
●Big plans being drawn up,
●big deals are being arranged,
●Javascript developers on the way,
●more partnership/alliances being formed,
●Innovation in the pipeline,
●Microsoft azure project/Lisk,
●Lisk on multiple exchanges @ launch time.

this is only jus the beginning, take inconsideration
A very successfully ico which in turn empowered
Lisk team with the ability to hire, contract,
or employ some of the best, brightest,
most intelligent & talented
Javascript developers around.

Lisk as alternative to €+h€R, in comparison
To innovation evaluation, giving the fact
Lisk is unbelievably under valued for such a
new technology that is suppose to be re writing history.
I suspect not much longer after launch lisk first
Week of trade may very well do expectly well beyond
Many expectations as the ico did.

Lisk has gotten the entire crypto
Community attention but now the question
is how long can they keep it in a space
where innovation & projects evolve by the second.

Peer2peer360

Market makers set your own price as you'll
See the demand for lisk more than likely
rise over the next few weeks.

125  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: March 22, 2016, 08:58:42 AM
When will trading go live?

BTER and Polo? is this true?

according to: https://explorer.lisk.io/marketWatcher

 woo i think you found a secret



Not so sure how to view this or seeing this as a sign
Of things to come. Aleast this can be very comforting to
Contributors of lisk to see the exchanges Interest in Lisk will take off in or around April.

Many people will speculate upon the notion
That polo & bter are one of the few exchanges
that will be trading Lisk upon launch.

LISK will grow by leaps & bounds in
the next few weeks to months..
 
One can only imagine upon launch day
there will be thousands more of
bitcoins traded for lisk..

If you think the ico is successful..
true indeed Wait until trade day &
for those jus finding out about
Lisk this can only grow expediently
beyond unimaginable real fast.

Quietly there are alot more contributors
who are gearing up to push alot of
btc into lisk project.

If you think Lisk is growing big now..
wait couple more weeks
& the first Dapp becomes available. 
You can forget about buying lisk @ ico prices.

Value of Lisk is likely to rise due to high demands
With the 3rd largest ico in crypto history (thus far)
Crypto community has realized Lisk has what it takes
 to be the next big thing.

Venture capitalist & outside investors are quietly
Investing in Lisk, don't be no fool about it
& depart from your lisk holdings befor the
herd shows up..

it's coming gents in the next few weeks...
Get ur btc ready to buy more lisk.

Peer2peer360
126  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: March 21, 2016, 10:18:41 PM
Nice to see you around p2p360. I remember you from the early Mastercoin days.

Hey wats going on..

You jus reminded me. Grin
Those were the early early
days when i was in.
Mastercoin & counterparty.
Had good times back then..

Now the next phrase for crypto 2.0 projects
Is mainstream adoption..
We may jus be in a better position
Now that crypto 2.0 innovation
 has mature over the year.

We all keep our eyes close
To the forum for the next big thing
In crypto

Glad to see u still around

P2p360

127  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: March 21, 2016, 09:29:10 PM
I could be wrong usually & normally I am.

Don't make no mistake about it..
If you think in your mind for once
Lisk is worth Pennies, then you gotta
Another thing coming...

I previously mentioned if you could
Go back in time & imagine if you bought micosoft/apple/Google Stock
Knowing what you knw now about those
Companies today would you sell it for a pennies
On the dollar?

OK so lookin down the road into the possible
Future of lisk... knowing what's about to come
would you sell your lisk for pennies on the dollar?

The lisk market will let it be known in due
Time if Lisk is of the upper echelon crypto 2.0
Projects out there... Dapps + partnership with
Microsoft azure (mainstream adoption)
+ major marketing campaign (underway)
+ hoarders (counterproductive mechanism
against dumping) + Multiple Exchanges
will be adding Lisk.. a number combination
of things could potentially drive the overall
 value of Lisk even higher.

Theres much Demand for lisk, with a rapidly growing
Community , innovation being deployed By the lisk team.
As many may expect Lisk trade volume could be
Like a "live wire" once trade starts to commence.

P2p360

128  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: March 21, 2016, 11:12:44 AM
We updated info about results of Lisk crowdsale

https://cyber.fund/system/Lisk

Total Tokens: 100000000
Tokens Sold: 85000000

Raised: 13750,28579618 BTC + 328,90002926 BTC + 80696176.84699945 XCR *0,000 013 00 BTC = 15128.236124451 BTC

Average Initial Price (will be used for pre-public cap calculations and lifetime CMGR calculation):
BTC AIP: 0.000177979
USD AIP: 0.07297139

Pre-Public Fixed Cap:
BTS Cap: 17,798
USD Cap: 7,297,139

All calculations are unofficial and preliminary and was done based on information provided by Lisk Foundation on site.
Calculations can be changed in case of Lisk foundation provide clarifying proofs.
 




Nearly 18,ooo btc donated/contributed
/ 7.2 million usd

(Subject to change)

What's Lisk ranking in the marketcap? 14-15th#
People will see lisk bursting up the charts soon?

129  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: IOTA - is it shaping up to be a HUGE SCAM?? let's take a closer look on: March 21, 2016, 11:03:26 AM
Heres thing tho.

Cryptos 2.0 - 3.0 are maturing & quickly
Evolving... Microsoft knows exactly
What time it is. bringing crypto
Innovation to mainstream/ commercial
Realm.. "adoption" is key...

New tech is here & major capital
flowing all through this bleeding
Edge innovation. shifting how business
Is done in the future, so that being said
 blockchain, smart contracts, sidechains
Tangle, iot will some day be the norm..

Ill be riding wave of all this new innovation
For some time to come..
Opportunity literally everywhere
If you knw how too look for it.

P2p360

 
130  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: March 21, 2016, 10:27:49 AM

When Lisk is ready for trade

2 things Wil occur at the same exact time..

          Dumping. < = > Hoarding

From the looks of a very descent ico
Which side of the fence are you on?

P2p360

I need my Million Lisk just for running Dapps. Can you use it for something else, duh?

Much is in the pipeline..  as many are contributors of
Lisk project I suspect only the imagination can answer
Whats possible, I belive in [Lisk~of~Things] is a new dapp..

Lots of new ideas, innovations, are being deployed
By the lisk team. Patience is a virtue, even tho
Patience some of us dont have...
Through faith, is the reason we contributed
To Lisk in the first place..

Congratulations Lisk community... Its because
Of your belief, vision, Lisk ico succeeded beyond
Many expectations...

Time to build they'll come...

Peer2peer360
131  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: March 21, 2016, 10:13:33 AM

When Lisk is ready for trade

2 things Wil occur at the same exact time..

          Dumping. < = > Hoarding

From the looks of a very descent ico
Which side of the fence are you on?

P2p360
use case scenario:

Imagine If you could've bought
Google/apple stock for mere
Pennies on the dollar, back then
fast forward through time
& u know what u knw today...
 That is you right.. In the now. Wake up

this is ground breaking tech..
Major corps (microsoft) know what time it is...
Crypto 2.0 projects have to mature..
Hence mainstream adoption is where it's headed next.

Lisk has to showcase it's talents to the commerical world

This launch is different than any other crypto launch + mainstream adoption..

HODL.. real talk

P2p360
132  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: March 21, 2016, 10:06:58 AM

When Lisk is ready for trade

2 things Wil occur at the same exact time..

          Dumping. < = > Hoarding

From the looks of a very descent ico
Which side of the fence are you on?

P2p360
use case scenario:

Imagine If you could've bought
Google/apple stock for mere
Pennies on the dollar, fast forward through
133  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: March 21, 2016, 09:57:12 AM

When Lisk is ready for trade

2 things Wil occur at the same exact time..

          Dumping. < = > Hoarding

From the looks of a very descent ico
Which side of the fence are you on?

P2p360
134  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: March 21, 2016, 09:32:17 AM
I come to realize some don't follow the system
Trailblazers lead by example
 & NOT everybody believes
LIsk is worth Pennies on the dollar. (Small thinkin)

Ico jus showed the entire crypto
Community there is demand for Lisk.

Isnt not Collectively the overall
Market (contributors) decides
What Lisk is worth (& it aint pennies)

If someone offered u $100 for 1 Lisk
Than automatically you sold lisk
Based on what YOU think it's worth..

Again not everybody is the same..
Some choose to make a way in life..

Whether you or I may like or disagree with it.
Everyone should have a right to individual choice.

Make your offer & stand on it and let
It be known there is a demand for lisk &
It ain't cheap...

If ethereum ain't cheap then Lisk shouldn't be either.

You let some tell its 1 lisk = 1 btc ...

yeah let the imagination run wild for a moment on that one.

Peer2peer360
135  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [WTS] [LISK] Sr. Member user. Quick and secure deal! on: March 21, 2016, 09:00:07 AM
I come to realize some don't follow
Trailblazer lead & NOT everybodybody believes lisk is worth Pennies on the dollar..

Collective overall Maket decides
What Lisk is worth..

If someone offered u $100 for 1 Lisk
Than automatically you sold lisk
Based on what YOU think it's worth..

Again not everybody is the same..
Some choose to make a way in life..

Whether you or I may like or disagree
With them Ppl have a right to individual choice.

You let some tell its 1 lisk = 1 btc ...

yeah let the imagination run wild for a moment on that one.

Peer2peer360
136  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: March 21, 2016, 07:47:11 AM
WTF my estimate lisk keeps going down  Huh

We all wondering the samethg, could be a strong possibility Btc from ico are still being counted...

Could be

P2p360
137  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: March 21, 2016, 07:34:45 AM
WTS 14738.40719615 LISK for ~60 BTC (or possibly lower, we can talk but this is, so far, lower than anybody else is offering on here)

If it is even possible to sell before release... which I still don't know if it is...

[WTS]  7350 Lisk  for 30 btc

Escrow

Market makers set your price..
We determine what's something worth..
Lisk ain't worth no pennies hence the offers
Being made ain't cheap but hey somebody gotta do it.
138  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: March 21, 2016, 07:29:07 AM
https://www.linkedin.com/in/oliver-beddows-19aa09107

IT Manager
GREYVILLE ENTERPRISES LIMITED
September 2003 – February 2016 (12 years 6 months)United Kingdom
My responsibilities at Greyville Enterprises covered a broad spectrum of areas, relating to everything from web development, to marketing and promotional activities.

First and foremost, I developed and maintained the Ruby on Rails based B2B e-commerce web application, used by Bicycle Dealers throughout the United Kingdom to order in new supplies of parts and accessories.

Secondly, I also developed many backend office applications and reports, handled any hardware maintenance, gave staff training, and provided general I.T support to the whole business.

Additionally, I also designed an annual 200-page trade catalogue, produced regular email marketing campaigns, managed the company's social media, and designed printed adverts that were included in the BikeBiz trade magazine.

so, what's your point?

Firstly, I agree with keeping this ICO fair.

Due to DPOS nature of LISK, DEV team should be fair and burn all BTER XCR coins.
Can a delegate please make a new thread with a poll and the following options:

VOTE
1. Burn all BTER XCR donations
2. Keep all BTER XCR donations

DPOS FTW

+1 vote to Burn all BTER XCR donations

This will teach BTER a lesson and benefit all other Lisk holders. Lisk value goes up as supply shrinks.


I don't think I'm listening right..
If lisk burns bter portions of the ico.. that in turn
Means everyone in Lisk will greatly benefit
If & when this happens..

That would be music to the hears of the lisk community.
& lisk would gain more contributors and awareness.
That would definitely boost confidents of new comers
In lisk.. teach other exchange not to take from anyone
illegally, u never knw when comes back on u 10 fold.

Do what's right, balance the situation..
Whatever it takes to increase the overall value of Lisk

P2p360
139  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: March 21, 2016, 07:01:19 AM
Selling 10k Lisk for 50 btc.  Cool

(WTS) 5K Lisk @ 25 btc

PM
140  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: March 21, 2016, 06:56:12 AM
Anytime bter invested ill-gotten gains
From one of the lisk community members
That should tell you somethg about lisk..

Multiple Exchanges will be
 getting in the Lisk action sooner or later..

Successful ico, Lisk can't go unnotice now.

Lisk will be in demand when it opens for trade..

Watch for neXT few days to coming weeks
Lisk will be in the News headlines...

P2p360

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