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81  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: What do you guys think of this rig? on: May 24, 2011, 05:04:37 PM
To put all the rig building cost comments into perspective:

I bought a HD5870 that generated just under 4 bitcoins a day, so I bought 2 more HD5870s and was getting 11 bitcoins a day. Ten days later and I am getting just under 4 bitcoins a day with all 3 cards. My rig was built on old and second hand hardware with three new GPUs and a new PSU for a total cost of less than £600. It costs £20 a month to run. I'll leave you to work out if its worth building your rig, but don't forget that the difficulty will probably have gone up again by the time you've got it working. The link below will shed some light on this:

http://bitcoin.sipa.be/


what i am thinking of is buying a motherboard that will fit 3 cards at the moment, i dont know if i can clock these cards and get 275 to 350

lets say i buy 2 cards at first, then in a couple of weeks buy the third card, ill have those working for 1 to 3 months, then maybe sell like 50 or 100 bitcoins to help pay for second rig,

im just gonna have to figure stuff like this as i go

like how much do these companys buy bitcoins in bulk, what type of ram, or power supply i need?

stuff like that

pretty much the immediate goal is to break 1.5 to  2 gigs of hash's and be in a mining pool
82  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: What do you guys think of this rig? on: May 24, 2011, 04:31:18 PM
im doing guesswork, trying to save space pysically at the house

ohh the calculator sites up http://www.alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator.php
83  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: What do you guys think of this rig? on: May 24, 2011, 04:19:47 PM
Every day I see these threads...
People with no clue want to build a rig...
Wasting huge amount of money...
Not realizing the game has changed...

The game is now cheapest rig will win...
Used to be just get it up and running...
Profit margins were so big...
Those times are gone forever...

If you invest $1000 in your rig...
In a year you might make $200 profit...
Cut your costs with $100...
Profit will be up by 50%...

These threads only proves one thing...
People are totally blinded...
By the tempting thought of printing money...
Because of this, in a couple weeks or so...
Difficulty will be a milli++...




Go find FOUR HD radeon 5850's maybe Gigabyte or Sapphire

and a MOTHERBOARD that will FIT THEM ALL - Dual Card Slot types

and find a COMPUTER CASE that has 9 to 10 expansion slots to fit said video cards

comeback and tell me the cost........
84  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: What do you guys think of this rig? on: May 24, 2011, 04:15:34 PM
I am going off http://golubev.com/gpuest.htm

http://pastebin.com/AvymGnMJ

and a couple of posts in this forum

and a bit coin calculator on the net, that seems to be down right now i wont link it

i think the standard for bitcoin mining is having a decent job and maybe a partner or brother who has a part time job and can keep the machines running all the time

right now i am thinking of that 600 to 700 dollar computer /without the video cards

even if things dont work out i have a bad ass motherboard and 2 graphics card for a computer and 2 spares, or i can give the other 2 cards to my brother or build a decent, cheap, 2 card mining machine
85  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: What do you guys think of this rig? on: May 24, 2011, 05:06:31 AM
so, safer to pay more, if unsure, yes.
its also [unreasoanble, alittle, meaning everyday hardware flow] investment -)
nothing to beat harddrives on storage market this time. and you can't rely on SSD on all aspects, except of read time[some time :], so tinies possible hdd could be simplest solution[to deploy/maintain/use]/storage pick.

sata HDD 80 gigs is $40.99 , so no biggie
86  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: What do you guys think of this rig? on: May 24, 2011, 04:47:02 AM
if he had extra-cash and prefer to invest it into better appearance/reliability/ease of use &etc instead of horsepower - is okay, IMO Smiley
but if his goal maximize RoI dynamic, you may be right.

He was thinking about not even putting a hard drive in it, so that means that this rig isn't intended to be a general purpose machine.

i didn't even include some things

i can buy a 50 dollar HDrive....... or you going to freak out at me cuz its not cost effective? lol

anyway

im down to $359.88 bux without the video cards
87  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: What do you guys think of this rig? on: May 24, 2011, 04:45:17 AM
if he had extra-cash and prefer to invest it into better appearance/reliability/ease of use &etc instead of horsepower - is okay, IMO Smiley
but if his goal maximize RoI dynamic, you may be right.

right now im tryin ti figure out a 3 video card rig

i am still going to try to figure out how to stick 4 ati radeon 5850's in 1 rig

1 stupid case that will hold it, and has 9 expansion slots, only need 8 for 4 video, but you have that extra in and of a half + motherboard that extends past the 8th exp slot

i dont know how to use linux or ubunto or any of that crap, i got a Wink sp3 version of windows

and i dont want my power supply to melt, catch my room and house on fire
88  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: What do you guys think of this rig? on: May 24, 2011, 04:34:16 AM
so then http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157207

is just overkill again?
89  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: What do you guys think of this rig? on: May 24, 2011, 04:10:00 AM
Again, you are wasting a TON of money for absolutely zero reason.

- Do not use that Motherboard
- Do not use that Processor
- Do not use that Memory

You can cut at least $250 just by cutting out that unnecessary stuff.

And a $200 case is overkill waste of money as well.

Even if you can cut half of your "overhead hardware" cost out (~$350), you are still looking at ~$1100-$1200 for a rig. That is nearly $1.00 per MHash/s....... That is 33% over the expected break even hardware outlay.

ok i found ASROCK motherboard, dont know if there worth a dam, can hold 3 cards is 142 $

and there all pci express 2

umm should i be looking for pci express 2.0 slots or not?

maybe thats where im screwin up

AMD Sempron 140 Sargas 2.7GHz Socket AM3 45W Single-Core Processor SDX140HBGQBOX
 is like $37.99

the memory i still can buy, i can save 1 stick for another computer, or put it in mine, and have 6 gigs

ill go down from 200 computer case to 69 so 280 saved already

and i need what a 700 watt Power Supply? thats like 70 bux compared to the 150 dollar 850 w
90  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: What do you guys think of this rig? on: May 24, 2011, 03:55:47 AM
I fooled around on Newegg for a bit trying to put together a build that hits the $0.75:1 Mhash standard set forth above. Currently, it just isn't feasible. With a few excellent combos it would be possible but, they are few and far between for mining-appropriate hardware. The best I could come up with, without delving into bottom-of-the-barrel, no-name, potential fire hazard hardware territory was about $0.85/0.90:1 Mhash.

Here's a thought, if you're going to insist on using all that fancy hardware, upgrade the CPU and call it a 50% gaming machine.

@w128  @xenon481  im just doing guess work right now

@xenon481  so going all out to save space at the house wont work maybe ill just have to deal with having twice the computer rigs maybe just stick to 3 pci slot motherboards hell maybe 2


91  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: What do you guys think of this rig? on: May 24, 2011, 03:22:55 AM
im looking at Cases right now with atleast 8 slots, i found one thats 59 bux, but im only seeing 7 back slots

so a 9 slot right now is look about the 200 price range

well im trying to make the computer around or LESS THAN this guys......

http://www.bitcoinrigs.com/products/Enthusiast-Rig-2000.html


$1,399.00

    * Athlon II X2 250
    * 2 GB DDR3-1333 RAM
    * 500 GB Hard Drive
    * 700 watt power supply
    * Ubuntu 10.10
    * 2x ATI 6970 video cards
    * Mining output with 2x cards = 680 MH/s

i dont know wtf ubuntu is, i know what a free version of windows xp sp3 is....


so lets see what i can get for around 1400

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COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1 Black Steel/ Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case  $199.99
 
MSI 890FXA-GD70 AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard     $194.99

   CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX850 V2 850W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply    $159.99    

   AMD Athlon II X4 640 Propus 3.0GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor ADX640WFGMBOX   $99.99    

   G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL   $49.99         

   Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound    $11.98    

   XIGMATEK Apache EP-CD903 92mm Sleeve CPU Cooler supports AM2 AM3 939 754 and LGA 1156    $19.99
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Shipping and Handling $711.92 not including shipping and handling
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then 4  5850 video cards at 200 a piece 800 $+

i am still missing a hard drive, not sure if i need one if i usb sticks, dont really need a dvd rom

haha, dont even know what im doing really, just guessing all this out

finding a case that this motherboard will fit in is a B
92  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: What do you guys think of this rig? on: May 24, 2011, 02:20:18 AM
You are wasting far far too much money.

And that is a private link to the wishlist that other people can't see.

i made it public, but for some reason i cant see it either

Mining is new to me but, I'm pretty well-versed in hardware.

  • You don't need decent CPU, much less an aftermarket heatsink.
  • You don't need a high-end gaming motherboard.
  • You don't need gigs of RAM.
  • You would need a large case and a ton of airflow if you intend to cram 4x 5850 inside.
If you're going to build a mining machine at this (against most current advice) you'd likely be better served by building 2 machines, one for each pair of cards.


im going to do a testrig 2 wishlist, ill post info in a minute

so what should i go with just a athlon II x4? quad core and a 15 to 30 dollar cpu/fan?
93  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: What do you guys think of this rig? on: May 24, 2011, 01:21:02 AM
ok, pretty much, here is the "Wishlist" list from Newegg

what do you think? would it work?

https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.aspx?ID=17615766
94  Bitcoin / Mining / What do you guys think of this rig? on: May 24, 2011, 01:11:08 AM
the current rig i want to make/buy is a

motherboard MSI 890FXA-GD70

with amd athlon II x4 deneb 125w 3.0       i could drop it to the ones that are 90 W

a 60 $ heatsink/fan for CPU

and 4 Video cards ati radeon 5850's

2 sticks ram

i dont know how big of a Computer Case i need

also

how do you go about telling how Big of a Power Supply you need, im guessing of getting a 800 or a 950 W from corsair

since the 4 video cards will be pulling 155 to 165 W
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