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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMY] Myriad | Multi-Algo, Fair, Secure on: December 29, 2025, 06:25:11 PM
I mean...you can play roblox and lots of other multiplayer games using a browser client...Godot and Unity and stuff all compile to web nowadays, right?

So I checked out "roblox" and they don't really check anything, which allows a serious problem with hackers. For instance, in "Prison Life", people can do things they aren't suppose to do like walk through walls, levitate, or just kill anyone on the server, even if they can't see them, out of range, wall in way. ect. Roblox games are a joke. And they can't really fix the problem because they have to let the client do a lot of the work due to the long latency of TCP.

Typical UDP latency (round trip) is around 300 msec with no increase in time even with high data loss. With TCP, this immediately jumps up to 900 msec and can reach 1.5 sec with even small data losses. So imagine you are playing a game that uses TCP and shoot someone. What you are shooting at is where that person was about a second ago. Unless, they are just standing still, you should miss. What the designers do though is just allow you to shoot at the target on your screen. If your client says it is a valid hit, then it reports to the server that it had a valid hit. Otherwise, TCP games would be unplayable. Even with UDP, where your attack is compared to the current location on the server, this gives player that live near the server a huge advantage. That is why you see people jump around like idiots so much in PvP games. They are taking advantage of latency.

There is a trick for sending UDP over TCP, but it requires a bunch of connections per person. Basically, you rotate through connections, so no connection ever gets backed up. However, this has it's own problems. I asked Deepseek AI (about 30 IQ points smarter than ChatGPT) about switching from UDP to TCP and basically got this answer. Here is part of it:

UDP (Current): Your router acts as a stateless forwarder. It has a simple NAT rule that says: "Send any incoming packet on port X to the internal IP of my server." It doesn't care about "connections" or "sessions." It just moves packets. This is very lightweight for the router's CPU and memory. 30,000 different clients sending intermittent packets is trivial for this process.

TCP (Proposed): Your router must become a stateful firewall/NAT. For every single TCP connection from an external client to your server, the router must:
Track the connection: Create an entry in its NAT table / connection tracking table (conntrack in Linux). This entry remembers the tuple: (Client IP, Client Port, Your Public IP, Server Port, Server Internal IP, Server Port, TCP State).
Manage the state: Monitor the TCP handshake (SYN -> SYN-ACK -> ACK), track sequence numbers, and properly tear down the connection (FIN packets) or time it out. Perform NAT translation: Rewrite the IP headers for every packet in both directions.

This "state" is the problem. Every one of your 30,000 concurrent TCP clients will consume a slot in your router's connection tracking table and require a small amount of CPU for state management.

Will Your Router Handle 30,000 Concurrent TCP Connections? Almost certainly not with a typical consumer or prosumer router.


Actually, it is worse. Remember, UDP over TCP requires using multiple channels. A packet is sent every 16 msec. If you can trick the TCP channel every 500 msec to reset, then you would need about 30 channels to do this hack. So 30,000 clients would be 900,000 TCP channels at full load. Even gaming routers can't handle this. You would need a high end industrial modem/router. Besides, I am pretty sure my ISP wouldn't know what to do if I replace their modem/router with one.

Even popular games like "World of Warcraft" and "Path of Exile" use UDP for time sensitive data. You can't play them in a browser. And honestly, most people don't care if you cheat in WoW.

This being said, I see that people are getting afraid to play compiled games. Maybe HTML5 is the way to go. It is impossible to fix something like Nythyria, but I can plan my next game to work with HTML5. Maybe a Dogecoin based dungeon game that uses a rogue type system combined with an auto battler using isometric graphics. Latency would be a total non-issue.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMY] Myriad | Multi-Algo, Fair, Secure on: December 27, 2025, 09:59:17 PM
Looks neat, but why only .exe for Windows? Would be cool if source was available or maybe you could play online.

Windows uses .exe and I haven't learned to use Linux or Apple OS. Besides, I think you can run on Linux using WINE.

I am actually planning to make everything source open for XMY version. There are three programs: Server, Client, and Crypto Manager. All written in C using CodeBlocks. Plus you need to run the Myriadcoin node.

The game is online only, but I think you meant to ask if you could play offline. You could effectively play offline by running the server on your computer, then use 192.168.0.1 as the IP address. When you start the game, you can see an option for custom IP.

No I meant more like there would be a centralized server and maybe crypto manager and then users could run the client in a web browser, so the end user player wouldn't need to download anything and it could run on any operating system.

Browsers use TCP, which doesn't work for online games like this due to high ping times. Everything needs to connect via UDP. Everything important happens on the server, you just use the client to interact with the game world.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMY] Myriad | Multi-Algo, Fair, Secure on: December 27, 2025, 08:49:22 PM
Looks neat, but why only .exe for Windows? Would be cool if source was available or maybe you could play online.

Windows uses .exe and I haven't learned to use Linux or Apple OS. Besides, I think you can run on Linux using WINE.

I am actually planning to make everything source open for XMY version. There are three programs: Server, Client, and Crypto Manager. All written in C using CodeBlocks. Plus you need to run the Myriadcoin node.

The game is online only, but I think you meant to ask if you could play offline. You could effectively play offline by running the server on your computer, then use 192.168.0.1 as the IP address. When you start the game, you can see an option for custom IP.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMY] Myriad | Multi-Algo, Fair, Secure on: December 24, 2025, 09:44:37 PM
Finally, after 3 years in beta, it is out. I am talking about Myriad Maze. Myriad Maze is a massive multiplayer online dungeon crawler that uses Glitter backed 1:1 by Myriadcoin. In other words, whether buying or selling, one Myriadcoin equals one glitter.

Note that you don't need Glitter to play. Glitter is mainly a cosmetic, making it a commodity. However, it can also be used for trading items with other players. You don't need Glitter to play. Myriad Maze is not a pay to win game. Elementals (mobs) do occasionally drop small amount of Glitter, so you can even earn some crypto. I use to make dungeon crawlers in the early days of DOS, long before the internet, and I understand what makes a game fun and addictive. Myriad Maze puts those early lessons to good use in what may very well be the world's largest multidimensional multiplayer dungeon crawler.

5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / [ANN] Nythyria - Official Thread on: September 03, 2025, 09:28:56 AM
NYTHYRIA
- Official Release -
Massive Multiplayer Online Dungeon Crawler
Customize and Upgrade Avatar
Find Ancient Memory Cards
Create Powerful Orbs
Map Devious Mazes
Discover Great Treasures
Collect Glitter - Sell for Bitcoin Cash
Auction Market - Buy and Sell via Glitter

Q: What is Nythyria?
A: Nythyria is the first massive multiplayer online grid based dungeon crawler fully backed by a POW cryptocurrency. It is based upon a popular series of games that started with the Atari ST and were later ported over the IBM PC. On the Atari ST it was known as the Mystic Well with around an estimated million players. Later, it was ported to the IBM PC, where it was known as Daymare 1 and it's sequel Daymare 2.

Q: What is special about Nythyria?
A: Nythyria uses Glitter as an unit of barter within the game. Every Glitter is fully backed (and redeemable) by one Bitcoin Cash (BCH) bit (100 Satoshis).

Q: Why use a proof of work crypto coin as the backbone for an in game economy?
A: I wanted a direct economic link with real value. Not a token with artificial values set by the founder. I believe this was the original intention of cryptocurrency. Glitter is fully backed by Bitcoin Cash.

Q: Why use Bitcoin Cash and not some other proof of work coin?
A: Bitcoin Cash is a continuation of the original idea behind Bitcoin. It is fast, secure, with low transaction fees. It also implements DSP (double spend proofs), which makes most transactions super fast. DSP can verify that there are no conflicting transactions in the mempool. No more waiting for a block confirmation, so you will receive your Glitter within seconds of a purchase when using Bitcoin Cash.

Q: What is the difference between Bitcoin Cash and Glitter?
A: While every Glitter is fully back by one Bitcoin Cash bit, making them equal in value, there is one major difference. Glitter is primarily a game cosmetic that can be used to buy cosmetic enhancements for your avatar or bartered with other players. This makes Glitter technically a commodity, while Bitcoin Cash is a cryptocurrency.

Q: Can I use other cryptocurrencies when buying Glitter?
A: Yes. Nythyria currently accepts Dogecoin, Litecoin, and Ravencoin for buying Glitter. The rates are less favorable though to prevent arbitrage.

Q: Is Nythyria a Play-to-Earn game?
A: Nythyria is primarily meant to be played for fun and challenge. I believe this should always be the first goal of any game designer. However, I also believe that integrating real economic value can greatly enhance play. There needs to be synergism between people playing for just fun, people trying to earn money, and people that just like the thrill of trading or flipping valuable items.

Q: How do I convert Glitter to Bitcoin Cash?
A: There is an in game system that allows you to directly sell Glitter for Bitcoin Cash. Simply paste your Bitcoin Cash address, enter the amount of Glitter you wish to sell. Confirm and you will receive an equivalent amount of Bitcoin Cash bits (100 Satoshis). For small values, this will be instant, and you should see the pending transaction in your wallet. Very large withdrawals may require manual confirmation though.

Tell me more!
Check out the web site: Nythyria.com

6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 built in 2013 with the future in mind on: December 01, 2024, 11:24:30 AM
Note that Finexbox is a scam site. It works at first, but then most withdrawal addresses become invalid. Even when you choose addresses that they show as previous withdrawal addresses.

They have no help method.

Small cap coins often have huge volumes, but when you set an order at one end, they are never filled despite huge volumes at that price.
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Myriad Maze - Official Thread on: May 13, 2023, 09:20:39 AM
Myriad Maze Game Client

Alpha Release 0.8

The following code is currently enabled

-Navigate Maze-
-Collect Cards-
-Create Orbs-
-Kill Elementals-
-Special Abilities-
Cheesy Find Glitter Cheesy
Grin Sell Glitter for XMY Grin
-Global Chat-


Get Latest Game Client Here
May 13, 2023
Game Client - Alpha Version 0.8


Additional Notes:
Extract folder, enter folder, and click (or double click) MyriadMaze to start game.
Email address is not currently verified, but you do need something to fill out field.
Sometimes a Myriadcoin cube will drop. Click on it to get equivalent in glitter. You can sell the glitter at a 1 to 1 ration for XMY.
Put a Myriadcoin address in your clipboard before starting game. Although you can log out and server will remember your balance.
To sell glitter, click on avatar, select last tab (XMY symbol), then sell. You can paste an address there.

8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Myriad Maze - Official Thread on: January 29, 2023, 05:19:03 PM
Update:

ISP has been giving a lot of problems since early Jan 25. My server receives UDP packets, but they are lost going out. Occasionally, the ISP works for a few hours, then stop working again.

Anyway, I have a new ISP lined up, but they won't be able to install till early March.
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Myriad Maze - Official Thread on: January 12, 2023, 07:11:35 PM
Alpha Version 0.4 is out now. Original link updated or you can get it here:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GnR2jqZD8j_FPG6ioxpixVmJ0oYLLfx9/view?usp=share_link

Main Changes

Occasionally when you pick up Glitter, you might get a low level card too! This will allow opportunity to try out card merging, orb creation, and inventory.

The Despair & Map Sense system has been reworked. Despair renamed to Gloom. Instead of map sense, you have  True Sight. Walls and spaces on map will always display, regardless of Gloom & True Sight level. True Sight allows you to see through illusions and see other stuff besides walls better.



10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Myriad Maze - Official Thread on: January 11, 2023, 02:05:39 PM
Is the code available? If not would be nice if you could play using web interface. Or would be nice either way.

No. I guess I could release it for the client code, but it would quickly be obsolete and pointless. I plan to keep improving it for at least a few years. The other thing is that I want to avoid bot farming becoming a problem. Quickly changing server-client interactions would part of that solution.

Not sure what you mean by "web interface". Do you mean make it playable from a browser? The game uses FreeGlut which is derived from OpenGL and supposedly compatible with WebGL. The code is written in C and could be easily translated as long as it is a compiled language. Not familiar enough with browsers to know how to do it. I can only do HTML, some CSS, and very limited Javascript (which I don't think is ever compiled).
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Myriad Maze - Official Thread on: January 11, 2023, 06:12:27 AM
Updating Client to Alpha Version 0.2

Increased ping time wait from 160 msec to 400 msec without rubber banding.

Note that this wait time is from the last time you moved and is refreshed whenever you move.
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMY] Myriad | Multi-Algo, Fair, Secure on: January 10, 2023, 08:56:16 PM
Game client for Myriad Maze (Alpha Version 0.1) is out now:

Wander the maze and make some XMY  Cheesy

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5430976.msg61575059#msg61575059
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Myriad Maze - Official Announcement on: January 10, 2023, 08:54:32 PM
Game Client has been released:

Now is your chance to earn XMY!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5430976.msg61575059#msg61575059
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Myriad Maze - Official Thread on: January 10, 2023, 08:29:15 PM
Myriad Maze Game Client

Alpha Release

The following code is currently enabled

-Navigate Maze-
Cheesy Get Lost  Cheesy
-Find Glitter-
Grin Sell Glitter for XMY Grin
-Global Chat-


Get Latest Game Client Here
May 13, 2023
Game Client - Alpha Version 0.8


Additional Notes:
Extract folder, enter folder, and click (or double click) MyriadMaze to start game.
Email address is not currently verified, but you do need something to fill out field.
Put a Myriadcoin address in your clipboard before starting game. Although you can log out and server will remember your balance.
To sell glitter, click on avatar, select last tab (XMY symbol), then sell. You can paste an address there.
Currently 1-10 Glitter are dropped in the maze every minute. You can sell one Glitter for one XMY.
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Myriad Maze - Official Announcement on: December 22, 2022, 11:30:17 AM
MYRIAD MAZE
- Official Announcement -
Multiplayer Dungeon Crawler
Customize and Upgrade Avatar
Find Ancient Memory Cards
Create Powerful Orbs
Map Devious Mazes
Discover Great Treasures
Earn Myriadcoin

Q: What is special about Myriad Maze?
A: Myriad Maze will use Glitter as an unit of barter within the game. Every Glitter will be fully backed (and redeemable) by one Myriadcoin (XMY).

Q: Why use a proof of work crypto coin as the backbone for an in game economy?
A: I wanted a direct economic link with real value. Not a token with artificial (and unsustainable) values set by the founder. I believe this was the original intention of cryptocurrency. Glitter will be fully backed by Myriadcoin.

Q: Why use Myriadcoin and not some other proof of work coin?
A: Myriadcoin was fairly mined using five different algorithms, and has been in existence for over 8 years. It's low market cap and strong fundamentals allows a huge upside for growth.

Q: What is the difference between Myriadcoin and Glitter?
A: While every Glitter is back by one Myriadcoin, making them equal in value, there is one major difference. Glitter is primarily a game cosmetic that can be used to buy cosmetic enhancements for your avatar or bartered with other players. This makes Glitter technically a commodity, while Myriadcoin is technically a cryptocurrency.

Q: Is Myriad Maze a Play-to-Earn game?
A: Myriad Maze is primarily meant to be played for fun and challenge. I believe this should always be the first goal of any game designer. However, I also believe that integrating real economic value can greatly enhance play. There needs to be synergism between people playing for just fun, people trying to earn money, and people that just like the thrill of trading or flipping valuable items.

Q: How do I convert Glitter to Myriadcoin?
A: There will be an in game system that allows you to directly sell Glitter for Myriadcoin. Simply paste your Myriadcoin address, enter the amount of Glitter you wish to sell. Confirm and you will receive the Myriadcoin. For small values, this will be instant. Larger values might require some oversight to prevent problems though.

Q: Will one Glitter always be worth one Myriadcoin?
A: Yes. While I expect Myriad Maze to have some income, I also have a huge reserve of Myriadcoin as backup.

Q: When will Myriad Maze be released?
A: Myriad Maze will be released as Alpha in early 2023. This will just be the maze part of the game with some Glitter to find (that can be immediately redeemed for Myriadcoin) and is mainly to test my server code. Later in 2023, after server testing, I plan to release a Beta version that will implement the full game system where you will be able to sell Glitter, but not buy it. Full version should be ready by 2024 where you can exchange Glitter with Myriadcoin in a one to one ratio.

Q: Will this affect the price of Myriadcoin?
A: I hope so. As of today (Dec 22, 2022), the price of Myriadcoin is below $0.0001 on Bittrex. In other words, you can buy over 10,000 XMY for a single dollar. Market cap is less than $200,000. There are crypto coins with zero utility and zero use with market caps of several million dollars. At one point Myriadcoin had a market cap of nearly $100,000,000 or 500 times today. I wish to demonstrate that real utility can lead to real value even exceeding it's previous market cap. Note that this is not meant to be an investment (or investment advice), but to be a social experiment in the economic value of real utility.

16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMY] Myriad | Multi-Algo, Fair, Secure on: December 22, 2022, 11:03:38 AM
Official announcement of Myriad Maze today:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5430976.0
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Myriad Maze - Official Thread on: December 22, 2022, 11:01:09 AM
Myriad Maze
- Official Announcement -
Multiplayer Dungeon Crawler
Customize and Upgrade Avatar
Find Ancient Memory Cards
Create Powerful Orbs
Map Devious Mazes
Discover Great Treasures
Earn Myriadcoin

Q: What is special about Myriad Maze?
A: Myriad Maze will use Glitter as an unit of barter within the game. Every Glitter will be fully backed (and redeemable) by one Myriadcoin (XMY).

Q: Why use a proof of work crypto coin as the backbone for an in game economy?
A: I wanted a direct economic link with real value. Not a token with artificial (and unsustainable) values set by the founder. I believe this was the original intention of cryptocurrency. Glitter will be fully backed by Myriadcoin.

Q: Why use Myriadcoin and not some other proof of work coin?
A: Myriadcoin was fairly mined using five different algorithms, and has been in existence for over 8 years. It's low market cap and strong fundamentals allows a huge upside for growth.

Q: What is the difference between Myriadcoin and Glitter?
A: While every Glitter is back by one Myriadcoin, making them equal in value, there is one major difference. Glitter is primarily a game cosmetic that can be used to buy cosmetic enhancements for your avatar or bartered with other players. This makes Glitter technically a commodity, while Myriadcoin is technically a cryptocurrency.

Q: Is Myriad Maze a Play-to-Earn game?
A: Myriad Maze is primarily meant to be played for fun and challenge. I believe this should always be the first goal of any game designer. However, I also believe that integrating real economic value can greatly enhance play. There needs to be synergism between people playing for just fun, people trying to earn money, and people that just like the thrill of trading or flipping valuable items.

Q: How do I convert Glitter to Myriadcoin?
A: There will be an in game system that allows you to directly sell Glitter for Myriadcoin. Simply paste your Myriadcoin address, enter the amount of Glitter you wish to sell. Confirm and you will receive the Myriadcoin. For small values, this will be instant. Larger values might require some oversight to prevent problems though.

Q: Will one Glitter always be worth one Myriadcoin?
A: Yes. While I expect Myriad Maze to have some income, I also have a huge reserve of Myriadcoin as backup.

Q: When will Myriad Maze be released?
A: Myriad Maze will be released as Alpha in early 2023. This will just be the maze part of the game with some Glitter to find (that can be immediately redeemed for Myriadcoin) and is mainly to test my server code. Later in 2023, after server testing, I plan to release a Beta version that will implement the full game system where you will be able to sell Glitter, but not buy it. Full version should be ready by 2024 where you can exchange Glitter with Myriadcoin in a one to one ratio.

Q: Will this affect the price of Myriadcoin?
A: I hope so. As of today (Dec 22, 2022), the price of Myriadcoin is below $0.0001 on Bittrex. In other words, you can buy over 10,000 XMY for a single dollar. Market cap is less than $200,000. There are crypto coins with zero utility and zero use with market caps of several million dollars. At one point Myriadcoin had a market cap of nearly $100,000,000 or 500 times today. I wish to demonstrate that real utility can lead to real value even exceeding it's previous market cap. Note that this is not meant to be an investment (or investment advice), but to be a social experiment in the economic value of real utility.

18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMY] Myriad | Multi-Algo, Fair, Secure on: December 10, 2022, 08:54:07 AM
Multiplayer Dungeon Crawler will use Myriadcoin:

Here is the link: MyriadMaze.Com

I believe this will be the first multiplayer game in the world to use a POW cryptocurrency.  Smiley

Huntercoin?

Not really the same. Huntercoin was human mineable coin started in 2014. Interesting idea, but was highly susceptible to bots, priced crashed to less than 1% of it's original price and it eventually died.

This game will use Myriad (or 1:1 in game commodity with Myriadcoin proof of reserves)  as an unit of trade.

19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMY] Myriad | Multi-Algo, Fair, Secure on: December 09, 2022, 11:46:23 AM
Multiplayer Dungeon Crawler will use Myriadcoin:

Here is the link: MyriadMaze.Com

I believe this will be the first multiplayer game in the world to use a POW cryptocurrency.  Smiley
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Any Multiplayer Games that use a POW altcoin? on: September 03, 2022, 10:20:31 AM
I know what you seek and I've done same research before, the truth is I failed to find one, those projects use normal staking strategy instead of the PoW algorithm, also even if they do I wonder how it's going to work because miners will mine and dump for quick money.

In a world where play 2 earn games are still struggling to have a home this is the last time any developers should come up with.

In the early days of the internet, a lot of companies tried to create their own custom closed versions. They all failed. I think tokens have their place, but I feel that games just staking a bunch of tokens are actually doing the same thing as those people that wanted to replace the internet with their own local version. It is like they are using tokens (or NFTs) as a gimmick and afraid to use a real cryptocurrency.

P2E games have a multi-billion dollar niche already using a token model, so they are definitely here to stay. And to be honest, most of those games would be considered trash if you ignored their NFTs and tokens. There are a lot of ways to drastically improve P2E.

Using a fairly mined POW coin should also encourage people to trust the game economy more. The cryptocurrency is a separate from the game so incidents like what happened to Axie Infinity and their SLP coin couldn't happen.
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