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61  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: February 20, 2014, 04:07:17 AM
How do you upgrade counterparty?

Thanks

You could uninstall and install the latest binaries created by xnova or update from source
http://counterpartyd-build.readthedocs.org/en/latest/
62  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: February 20, 2014, 04:04:26 AM
Blockscan is back up and it looks like Poloniex balance was restored.

So now it's really up to busoni to figure out what he wants to do. IMO the best policy is to throw out all trades made by the attacker and credit back the buyers' BTC. Those trades wouldn't have happened without the attack so I don't understand people complaining about not getting to keep the XCP they bought for 0.002.

That's assuming busoni wants to continue to serve as punching bag for any future XCP exploits though. Completely understandable if he does not. If we no longer have a centralized exchange it would really shift focus to fixing the DEX. This thread was full of good discussion about that until it got derailed by price speculation.

This creates a bit of a mess for busoni to clean up. No matter which way we approach this, someone is going to be unhappy. Original Depositors of XCP are safe because it is not their trades that got executed and the reparse has restored their balances in the central wallet. The best way forward is for 0.002 transactions to be rolled back and hacker return bitcoins because the deposit of 35k XCP has an invalided input.

I don't understand how the hacker is considered benevolent. A white hat would have exposed the vulnerability without causing such a mess to clean up. Even if he withdrew 35k to prove a point, depositing it back and dumping it does not show good intentions IMO To me it seems like he knew a patch release will invalidate his XCP holdings and therefore he made away with as many bitcoins as he could take and until he returns them back to busoni my opinion will not change.

The discussion regarding XBTC/BTC/DAC/Escrow was evolving nicely until this came along, maybe we should pursue that discussion in a separate thread in the counterparty forums.

63  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: February 19, 2014, 05:46:34 PM
What will happen to the orders and balances on poloniex?

+1, I had a few hundreds over there

Presumably it is suspended until it can be fixed and there is more certainty. Its going to take sometime until the smoke clears out.
64  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: February 19, 2014, 05:25:00 PM
The important matter is did the attacker withdraw the btc he received from dumping the XCP?
If not, the orders can be reversed and the private keys can be changed.
According to busoni attacker didn't withdraw all his btc ergo some was left behind and some was withdrawn. How much he has withdrawn has not specified.
65  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: February 19, 2014, 05:11:32 PM
newbie question here,

If I don't have the counterparty/XCP wallet program installed yet, but I want to withdraw my XCP from Poloniex (assuming I can!), can I just send it to a bitcoin address that I control? And then later, import that bitcoin address into the XCP wallet program?

(In other words, am I right in understanding that my XCP address is just a bitcoin address I own?)  How would I later "import" it into XCP?

You assumptions are correct. As long as you can control your private key you will be able to control the XCP associated with it and where ever you want to import it.
66  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: XBTC <--> BTC Gateway on: February 19, 2014, 03:53:49 PM
I think there is only 1 way to perfectly implement this pegged value idea. Create a DAC (Distributed Autonomous Community) whose sole function is to take an amount of BTC as an input and return the same amount of XBTC to you in return. This DAC will run on at least all the underwriters computers. This keeps it as simple as possible. The DAC is trust-less and starts with the 21 Million XBTC. To get the XBTC you have to feed it with BTC. All the accounts would be transparent and really simple - only 1 address is needed for both the BTC and XCP.

This would work for any other crypto-currency too. The only caveat being that the members of the DAC community would have to run the blockchains of each cryptocurrency involved.

Curious of what is a practical way to make such DAC ? How to prove that only nodes in DAC know the private key ?

There is no way to prove that only nodes in the DAC know the private key.

I still think the idea is simple enough (and splendid) to implement and can be done quickly. It needs to be setup by someone with a community standing so that there is enough trust.
67  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: February 19, 2014, 03:51:13 PM
Can anyone tell me how the order  book is matched in this dump scenario.

1. A sell order was placed for 0.002 for at least 16,000 XCP
2. There were many buy orders greater than 0.002 at least up to 0.011

Do these buy orders get matched to the dump price? If yes, do they get matched @ 0.002 or at their original bid?
68  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: February 19, 2014, 03:42:52 PM
This unfortunately looks like Poloniex got hacked.

http://blockscan.com/address.aspx?q=19rVQ91AgrYmbpX6Sjxw6qCoP2Q1YFcn5b

This address received 35k from Poloniex and immediately redeposited it. Poloniex at the time had a balance of roughly 50k, so unless a big whale had been buying all along this is very fishy. There's no reason for an immediate redeposit unless someone had managed to get Poloniex to pay out to them.

Also strange is how there is no intermediate deposit address used--the transfers are going directly into the central wallet.

Here is another transfer of 35k:

http://blockscan.com/address.aspx?q=1HMoHdzaHm9cHR8FjekGRtkkydoHfgaC8S

Perhaps the hacker/exploiter is going for another round?

I really hope I'm wrong. It does look as though either the central wallet or Poloniex's internal processes have been compromised.

Unfortunately ... it does look highly likely you're right... Has anyone informed poloniex?



Let's wait for a response from poloniex. It's terrible if true but lets wait for an official confirmation.

69  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: February 19, 2014, 02:28:26 PM
LOL that dump is beautiful, wish I had some btc available right now

LOL HE JUST SWITCHED TO BUY ORDER LMAO

kind a crazy think.... i got some very cheap.... 655 for avg 0.00075
and looks like someones mistake.... maybe just badtyping....

Very expensive mistake.
70  Local / India / Re: India Bitcoin Meetup in Bangalore on: February 19, 2014, 12:40:51 PM
Thanks for letting us know

an intentional bump ?

How many people generally turn up for these meetings? Would like to come and attend at least one.
71  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: February 19, 2014, 04:28:32 AM
Initial set of Counterwallet screenshots are here: https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,79.msg685.html#msg685

I also provide more info on features and release timeline. Wallet questions in that thread are preferred.


That looking really good. I like this colors, its looking even better than blockchain web wallet. Great work.

Edit. Maybe little more dark XCP color background so its not too near white. Or maybe very tin black round lines to all white letters.  But not sure maybe my screen only make it difficult read.

Yeah, the interface itself (colors, borders, etc) is still in a very early stage. I've done a good amount, but my design/color skills are limited Smiley (I don't really consider myself a web dev). This will be a good start, and hopefully some talented web devs can jump on and pitch in.

The main goal is to to make it very, very simple to use. You can literally get started with the wallet and be running in 5 to 10 seconds. Past that, you just need to know about the general concepts (assets, buying and selling on a market, etc).

Yes, agreed. You have done a great job. Once the engineering work on the website is completed. We can have some designers spice it up.

They are using knockoutjs on the UI side and this will make any design transition a much more simpler exercise. Great choice.
72  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: February 18, 2014, 03:04:17 PM
So correct me if I'm wrong, but Mastercoin essentially released a whitepaper, held an IPO, issued coins, blew up thousands of times in value, and all without actually having any of the features they promised? Then they issued part of the invested BTC for somebody to actually build the thing?

So:
1) Write a whitepaper
2) Ask for donations
3) Quick and dirty client to issue coins
4) Watch coins soar 200X in value (relative to dollars)
5) Profit
6) Offer 1/5 of the BTC raised in the IPO for somebody to actually create a working protocol
7) Call yourself innovators when you haven't even done anything yet

Am I missing something? I'm seriously asking, not trolling.

LOL Yes in a nutshell that's what has happened.

I think the specifications documentation went through 3 or 4 serious versions starting from Jan 2012, to November 2013. It's unclear if any software development happened in between that period. I read JRW needed enough BTC to convince his folks that Mastercoin was worth the number of hours he was putting in it everyday and it is only recently that he quit his job to work full time on mastercoin

I think one of the reasons it remained in the pipeline until the mid to late 2013 was its specifications. Metacoins was groundbreaking idea in 2011-12 and they had not yet formulated the best way forward, to the point of even thinking of bloating the blockchain with fake addresses as a means to implement their protocol. It took them a while to figure out the best way forward. Perhaps PP and xnova learnt from the early mistakes of others, who knows, I am just speculating.

XCP by comparision is far more leaner protocol. It doesn't have the bells and whistles but its a mean beast alright. I am fairly new to crypto (Dec 2013) and its more fortune than decision making that landed me here but I am glad its XCP I have thrown my lot with and not the others. For the record, I burnt 0.72 BTC basically everything I mined between Dec and Jan.
73  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: February 18, 2014, 12:08:36 PM
just downloaded the software and wanted to test things but stopped immediately Smiley because i need a local bitcoin daemon running. very much work for "playing around". as i am new here i have to ask: how will counterparty become accessible for the mainstream? are there some webservices in the work? or maybe is it possible to use the blockchain.info API instead of a local bitcoin daemon?

A web wallet is currently being built so you can use that if you dont want to run a local setup. We should know more by this Friday I think.
74  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: February 18, 2014, 10:40:56 AM
Oh yes that'sa very common error. It means wait for the Web wallet. Ha kidding, looks like you need to reindex though.
I did already reindex to no avail unfortunately Sad

Does your bitcoin conf have txindex=1 ?

If not, you need to add it and reindex again.

Code:
rpcuser=rpc
rpcpassword=rpcpw1234
server=1
daemon=1
txindex=1
75  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: February 18, 2014, 07:12:27 AM
Someone at the NXt thread reminded me of emunie. I had forgotten all about them. Has anybody here been testing their ob1 or know anything about how its going there lately?
Their ipo must be soon. Don't they have a working gui? I'm too lazy to go to their forum. Is there anybody here on top of emunie and are they competition for xcp in any way?

Nxt, Mastercoin and eMunie are all competition is some shape or form. Last I remember reading about emunie IPO starting on 17th Feb, that was like 2 weeks back. That's probably started now.

The more interesting date is the Ides of March. All 3 of them I think are scheduled to unveil their implementation of Dex on 15th of March. The new Nxt wallet looks attractive and I guess is the reason behind some renewed interest in Nxt prices the last week or so (jumped from 0.000075 to 0.000095). Mastercoin I have not yet seen. eMunie from the screenshots looks highly functional too.

Me thinks March is going to be a very interesting month.

Judging by the squatting of XCP twitter and reddit handles by people purportedly supporting mastercoin, I think there are a few nervous people out there.
 


76  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: February 18, 2014, 06:29:48 AM
Alternatively you guys could create multiple threads for as many different aspects of Counterparty as you deem fit @ https://forums.counterparty.co instead of one long thread here. I try to follow both places but sometimes going through one long thread is difficult.
77  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: February 17, 2014, 07:00:03 PM
Also, LOL at people telling early adopters to sell their coins at a "fair price", which is coincidentally always below market value.

The burn period was open for a month. Did you join the developers in sending your coins into an unrecoverable black hole then? The fair price was 1000-1500 XCP / 1 BTC then. Anyone could have participated.

Then there was plenty of volume on the DEX for 2 weeks. Moneypaktrader was selling a large quantity of XCP for 0.005. Did you buy them?

Now there is a centralized exchange up and running. The fair price is now between .01 and .02. Are you going to buy now?

What about when the web wallet comes out, desktop GUI is out, and corporations start listing stock on XCP? What will be the fair price then?

To add to that ...
Even before the burn period ended, you could have actually got more XCP buying from Patel than from burning directly. On poloniex, patient buyers have purchased for as less as 0.008 in the last 48 hours. While some chose only to complain others have been quick to purchase at reasonable valuations.
78  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: February 17, 2014, 06:37:42 AM
XCP is not another altcoin. The key is to improve the Dex. Without a working reliable DEX, put it on more exchanges is just a pump and dump. It may make the early investors rich quickly, but never a real success. For those who have tens of thousands of XCP, I don't think you can liquidate all you holding by just pump and dump. A real DEX is a must.

I agree, its too early to list on a bunch of centralized exchanges, and that's really not the goal of the project anyways.

+1

For the long term viability we need to help the devs come out with a user friendly wallet and DEX so that the entry barrier is lowered. Not everyone is comfortable with command line and it is not very idiot proof either. If the least we can do is test the system, then that' what we must do and pass on the feedback in a manner that is consumable by the devs.

Secondly, there are stray enquirers by people who want to issue stocks, we must help these guys out. the more stocks that can be issued and sold on the platform means more people will automatically want XCP since they will need it to buy their preferred asset.
79  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: February 16, 2014, 11:43:50 AM
It seems that my selection of poloniex to pester to list XCP and getting XCP right next to mastercoin on coinmarketcap all happened. It sure didnt seem like it was easy to add XCP, and my guess is that most other exchanges wouldnt have stuck it out through all the issues, nor would they have been able to get it working as fast. Tristan is the best!!

Now we steal mastercoin's thunder before they are able to get any real world release out. The cat is out of the bag and now everybody that didnt know about counterparty will immediately compare working software with almost software.

I usually dont beg for tips, but I think I deserve one in this case. Feel free to express your euphoria!

XCP: 1JMRuhVNGdhCnhm6LLPhjGuA6GVKc28SBg

James

I think Poloniex should add Mastercoin to their exchange, it is after all similar to XCP and should enable Mastercoin users to sell their overpriced coin and buy the undervalued and functional XCP instead. Some of them I am sure would jump at the opportunity. Unlike regular investors, they are already converted to the metacoins and DEX based on the promises of Mastercoin for many months past. It's also great business for Poloniex. Everybody wins.

80  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: February 16, 2014, 10:50:08 AM
Will the 5 XCP to create an asset be ajusted downward if the price keep rising?

It's currently a deterrent against spammer and trolls, and if the price is going north I am sure it will have to be revised because we can't risk it being too expensive to create an asset.
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