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TED stands for Technology, Entertainment and Design.
This talk is only about history and politics.
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Bonjour,
Toujours sur le même sujet. Pouvez vous m'indiquez un annuaire où on pourrait s'inscrire pour proposer une offre payable par bitcoin ?
Cordialement
Peut-être dans cette section du bitcoin-wiki? Je ne sais pas si on a quelque chose d'équivalent en français. |
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Non^^ c'est une veste de contrefaçon
Oh j'ai bien fait de poser la question alors. Je n'ai jamais songé que la contrefaçon puisse être un domaine d'application pour les marchés anonymes. |
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Bonsoir et merci a vous deux, j'ai choisis instawire même si c'est pas vraiment "instantanée" je ne souhaite que faire un achat cependant obligé de passé par cette monnaie :/ Enfin bon merci quand même  Par curiosité c'est pour quel type d'achat? Jeu en ligne, consommation de produits quelconques, service internet, finance ...? |
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Bonjour et merci, il n'y a rien qui permet un paiement directe? si j'ai compris sur Otc c'est via trader :/
Non, c'est du pur pair-à-pair. Tu t'arranges directement avec le vendeur/acheteur. Le plus souvent par IRC. de plus je voie un mec qui vend 50 Bit pour 1 euro ca sent le rouchi quand même Oo
Tu as du mal regarder. Si tu fais allusion à cet ordre, regarde bien et tu verras que ce qu'il vend ce sont des MTGEUR, c'est à dire des euros détenus sur un compte MtGox. |
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Bonsoir, étant nouveau sur bitcoins, je dois faire un achat sur un site, mais je ne sais pas comment acheter ces foutus bitcoins... je préférais un site avec moneybooker pour la rapidité des virements Merci d'avance Bonsoir et bienvenue, l'essentiel pour acheter des bitcoins c'est de trouver quelqu'un qui accepte de t'en vendre. Pour ça tu peux utiliser bitcoin-otc.com par exemple: http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php?type=SELL&nick=&thing=&otherthing=EUR&eitherthing=¬es=Mais si tu veux un site avec un teneur de comptes tu peux essayer bitcoin-central.net |
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There is nothing wrong with big businesses. Why so much hate against them?
Big businesses created and promoted liberarianism, you say? Yeah, that would not surprise me if people who succeeded in their economic life promote economic freedom. What's your point exactly?
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Electrum est un programme client-serveur. Le serveur est un nœud lourd dans le réseau p2p. Le client non, mais c'est lui qui gère les clés privés. Le serveur ne peut donc pas voler le client, même s'il est contrôlé par des criminels.
@caveden Désolé, c'est faux: si le serveur electrum est compromis il peut présenter une fausse chaine au client et lui faire accepter des "double-spends", c'est à dire des bitcoins déjà dépensés. Ce n'est pas tout à fait ce que caveden entendait par "voler le client", amha. Ce que tu décris ne permet absolument pas au serveur de s'approprier des bitcoins reçus au préalable. |
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It's amazing to see how little they worry about giving Silk Road a lot of publicity with those articles  « More and more people I know in Brighton are now coming onto Silk Road to order their stuff. It’s just so much easier and I know the quality of the stuff I order isn’t going to be compromised. » Awesome. It's funny that nerds and clubbers are the most likely kinds of bitcoin users. |
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Keep in mind that in this environment, a trusted identity has lots of value as an unknown identity is treated with skepticism. If you want to trade of do business, you need at least one identity that has some sort of positive reputation.
That's one drawback of anonymity, indeed. But it does not change the fact that it allows you to do stuff without fear of judgment or punishment. It removes the carrot AND the stick. But it doesn't say "anonymous" over to the left, now does it? <------------------------------------------------------ It says "myrkul" and has a cute picture of a kitten with a sniper rifle, overlaid by the Shire Society seal. That's pseudonymity, not anonymity. It allows for our previous interactions to influence this one, and this one to influence future ones. In other words, carrot and stick. If I wanted anonymity briefly, I would need to create a sockpuppet. That sockpuppet account, unless "outed," would not affect the reputation of this account negatively or positively, but would have an entirely different reputation track. Which, and this is kinda important, would start at 0. (Actually more like -1 or -2, due to the skepticism.) I was indeed talking about anonymity here, not pseudonimity. |
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Keep in mind that in this environment, a trusted identity has lots of value as an unknown identity is treated with skepticism. If you want to trade of do business, you need at least one identity that has some sort of positive reputation.
That's one drawback of anonymity, indeed. But it does not change the fact that it allows you to do stuff without fear of judgment or punishment. It removes the carrot AND the stick. |
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Because being forced to join a union and pay dues is um... un-libertarian?
But it is a condition of a voluntary contract.  Please explain. |
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That said, pseudonymity (not anonymity) is compatible with moral behavior. The key is that you have a different identity, but it is an identifiable identity (for example, a forum user name).
As I wrote in my post, on internet you can easily get rid of an identity and take an other one, and nobody will be able to know it's the same physical person behind it. |
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Well, people who use anonymity on internet are not all stupid people. Some of them are talented programmers, specialized in cryptography and P2P systems. |
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Today I watched an interesting documentary series about "prophets of science fiction". The episode about H.G. Wells and more specifically the part about his "invisible man" novel made me think of something.  I'm not sure I had realized before how this story is more of a moral tale than a science-fiction one. The main issue of this book is about what would happen if men are given a way to avoid having to face judgment and punishments from other people. What if people could do whatever they want without having to fear retaliation from others? In other words: is anonymity compatible with moral values? Today we are very far away from creating something like an invisibility cloak or something like that, even with recent developements in metamaterials. And yet I believe the "invisible man" is still a pertinent story to illustrate some of the issues about information technology. Because on the internet, you can be invisible. There is even a popular website who's title pretty much states that, http://www.howtovanish.com/and it's no surprise that this site has been bitcoin-friendly very early. So even if a man can not (yet) be invisible in the physical space, he can indeed be invisible in the cyberspace. In cyberspace, you can use TOR, a hot-spot access, or some other IP obfuscation method in order to make sure that whatever you do on the internet, nobody will know who you are, either IRL (meaning that noone will know your name and address) or even virtually (meaning that you'll be able to connect later and nobody will be able to link this connection with the previous one and know that it's the same person behind). On internet, we can have no face whatsoever, if we want so. Considering how many important things happen on the internet nowadays, it's really a societal issue. Commerce for instance is not excluded, and so now it is possible to buy anything you want, or at least things that you would not normally by in public, either because it is illegal (downloading copyrighted material, buying drugs on Silk road) or shameful (buying sex-toys, watching porn or trolling people on forums). The power of invisibility is quite a thrilling idea, even if it's just in cyberspace. Quoting the main character of Wells' novel: "To do such a thing would be to transcend magic. And I beheld, unclouded by doubt, a magnificent vision of all that invisibility might mean to a man—the mystery, the power, the freedom. Drawbacks I saw none." The freedom he's talking about is obviously not the kind of freedom we are supposed to get from law-organised, ordered democratic societies. No, it's the freedom that happens in anarchy. The kind of freedom that can scare you. Anonymity is probably not compatible with law. Why should I obey the law if I don't agree with it and if I have nothing to fear from a judge or a police officer? |
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Very brief article noting the Wordpress acceptance of Bitcoin, and giving a short description of Bitcoin. The Le Monde website is ranked by Alexa at 449 globally, and 16 in France. Yeah, french people are not totally dumb  |
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Because it is insanely more simple to put dominoes in place rather then cure cancer. With enough fools who have enough time on their hands you can build incredibly large dominoes. A few hundred fools with several months to spare still won't cure cancer, put a man on the moon or make a non-fossil powered automobile.
Notice than you're the one who talked about curing cancer. Anyway, my point of this thread was that to me, making a big diamond at least looks simple. Just like falling dominoes: you just need a lot of dominoes. It seems to me that to make diamonds, you just need a lot of water and steel. |
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It all boils down to opportunity cost. MAYBE someone could make a car sized diamond with a total of X hours of extended work effort and the cost of Y resources.
The question is this: Are X hours of effort and Y resources really the best spent on making a car sized diamond?
Or should we rather spend the X hours and Y resources on curing cancer? Or making a super weapon to rule the world? Or make cars that run without fossil fuels?
Just because it can be done does not mean it will be done. It will be done when someone in control of the required effort, skills and resources thinks its the best way to spend the effort necessary to do so.
You're too squared. People don't think like that. The notions of "Fun" and "Cool" don't fit in your economics views. I've shown you a useless machine already. Here is the world record for falling dominos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E7Ep3U06NcWhy did all these people spend so much time preparing those dominoes instead of searching a cure to cancer? I don't know, but they did anyway. I have very little doubt that if it was possible to make a car-sized diamond, someone would make one, regardless on whether it would cost more or less than the market price of the actual thing. |
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