Bitcoin Forum
May 13, 2024, 12:22:09 PM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
  Home Help Search Login Register More  
  Show Posts
Pages: [1]
1  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Lost Bitcoins in Bitcoin Core wallet - what now? on: January 22, 2018, 12:06:23 PM
You never ask yourself: if 2 minutes from now, my disk is dead, what will I do  ?

Then Samsung and Seagate would both be out of business.
2  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Lost Bitcoins in Bitcoin Core wallet - what now? on: January 22, 2018, 02:33:48 AM
So I'm guessing you could not find the tx information.

If you still have your address, you could at least find out if it is still is stuck.

People worry about the online wallet, but it would helpful in this scenario.

Nope. I only have the receiving address but that's proven useless.

I will be leaving the Bitcoin Core client on overnight to see if anything is stuck in the mempool.dat file but I highly doubt it. Looks like ~Satoshi didn't plan for large scale integration.
3  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Lost Bitcoins in Bitcoin Core wallet - what now? on: January 22, 2018, 12:25:07 AM
I have the original mempool.dat file. Would I be able to find anything related to the transactions in this? I have the destination address but from what I can see this isn't of much use as blockchain.info doesn't show anything.
plug in that destination address on this block explorer bitaps.com or btc.com
if it was broadcasted successfully and reached one of these nodes, you will be able to see the unconfirmed tx
bitaps will keep track of it even if other nodes and the whole network has dropped it completely

It doesn't show on any of those. I literally closed the client and deleted the wallet.dat file the moment it said the coins were sent without any confirmations showing up. I thought the message that the coins were sent was enough, clearly this was not the case and Bitcoin being as old as it is, just makes you wonder why the client is so shit after all these years. As if no one really cares for real world application and instead everyone was just using the network as an investment place.
4  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Lost Bitcoins in Bitcoin Core wallet - what now? on: January 22, 2018, 12:18:38 AM
I've tried using multiple recovery tools and I am unable to recover the wallet.dat file.

May i ask why you weren't able to find your wallet.dat file?
If you weren't writing hundreds of GB's of data onto your HD after deleting your file (today ?) it should be easily recoverable.

The only reliable way to gain access to your coins is to recover the file.
Which software did you use to search for your file?

It is important to NOT use that disk anymore and make an 1:1 image (e.g. DD-like, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix)).
Then use any recovery software you wish to search for your wallet.dat.. The chances are very high of getting your file back.
The more you are using your hard drive the lower your chance will be of recovering the file.


I tried using Recuva as well as a few others and nothing. After deleting the wallet.dat file I reopened Bitcoin Core which created a new wallet.dat file. Maybe this new one overwrote the old one? I'm dumbfounded myself as I thought these recovery tools were much more useful although this doesn't quite seem to be the case.

The Bitcoin files are on another drive and not on my C: drive. I thought this would make it even easier to recover but this was not the case. I am currently doing a deep scan with another tool and there's a few more hours left. We will see what if anything this brings us.

IMO this whole thing defies common sense.  If you delete the wallet it should be easily recoverable period.  You must have waited way to long to try and recover it.  Still should be able to find it regardless.

I just finished with a deep scan and it did not find anything. IMO most of you think technology is better than it actually is.

I will give it a few days but if my understanding of how the bitcoin technology actually works is correct then the coins are lost and the technology isn't as great as some of you may think it is. If those coins don't come through the simple answer would be that the Bitcoin network has blind spots which centralize the network as to avoid them you need to be well connected with other peers.
5  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Lost Bitcoins in Bitcoin Core wallet - what now? on: January 21, 2018, 06:45:32 PM
I've tried using multiple recovery tools and I am unable to recover the wallet.dat file.

May i ask why you weren't able to find your wallet.dat file?
If you weren't writing hundreds of GB's of data onto your HD after deleting your file (today ?) it should be easily recoverable.

The only reliable way to gain access to your coins is to recover the file.
Which software did you use to search for your file?

It is important to NOT use that disk anymore and make an 1:1 image (e.g. DD-like, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix)).
Then use any recovery software you wish to search for your wallet.dat.. The chances are very high of getting your file back.
The more you are using your hard drive the lower your chance will be of recovering the file.


I tried using Recuva as well as a few others and nothing. After deleting the wallet.dat file I reopened Bitcoin Core which created a new wallet.dat file. Maybe this new one overwrote the old one? I'm dumbfounded myself as I thought these recovery tools were much more useful although this doesn't quite seem to be the case.

The Bitcoin files are on another drive and not on my C: drive. I thought this would make it even easier to recover but this was not the case. I am currently doing a deep scan with another tool and there's a few more hours left. We will see what if anything this brings us.
6  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Lost Bitcoins in Bitcoin Core wallet - what now? on: January 21, 2018, 06:37:58 PM
Bitcoin relies on confirmations. Until they're confirmed, it's not sure they arrive at their destination. Bitcoin isn't like your bank, you're your own bank. What you did, is burn down your bank before your funds are secure.

I like this analogy, makes perfect sense.

Thanks for your help.
7  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Lost Bitcoins in Bitcoin Core wallet - what now? on: January 21, 2018, 06:25:07 PM
I've tried using multiple recovery tools and I am unable to recover the wallet.dat file.

More importantly I shuffled the coins around 2 different addresses within the wallet prior to sending them out.

I can understand that deleting the wallet.dat file was a mistake but once the coins are sent into the network IMO in a good technology scenario they should always reach the destination just like a bank transfer otherwise it isn't practical in real time value and the whole bitcoin thing is just a bubble waiting to burst. Technically I put my coins in a black hole by deleting the wallet, even though I sent them out before doing so.

I have the original mempool.dat file. Would I be able to find anything related to the transactions in this? I have the destination address but from what I can see this isn't of much use as blockchain.info doesn't show anything.

Thanks guys.

But when you set up your wallet, didn't you have to copy a pass phrase on paper ?

Nope, nothing like that. It just worked at launch. It had a default address and then I created a few new ones.
8  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Lost Bitcoins in Bitcoin Core wallet - what now? on: January 21, 2018, 04:14:03 PM
I've tried using multiple recovery tools and I am unable to recover the wallet.dat file.

More importantly I shuffled the coins around 2 different addresses within the wallet prior to sending them out.

I can understand that deleting the wallet.dat file was a mistake but once the coins are sent into the network IMO in a good technology scenario they should always reach the destination just like a bank transfer otherwise it isn't practical in real time value and the whole bitcoin thing is just a bubble waiting to burst. Technically I put my coins in a black hole by deleting the wallet, even though I sent them out before doing so.

I have the original mempool.dat file. Would I be able to find anything related to the transactions in this? I have the destination address but from what I can see this isn't of much use as blockchain.info doesn't show anything.

Thanks guys.
9  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Lost Bitcoins in Bitcoin Core wallet - what now? on: January 21, 2018, 08:09:16 AM
~Okay then, so I've had some bitcoins in a Bitcoin Core wallet which I sent to an online wallet. This is how it happened:

- Bitcoin Core was opened
- synced and up to date
- I sent Bitcoins using the built in features and used twice the minimal transaction fee
- Confirmation message popped up and they were sent
- I went and deleted wallet.dat as I no longer needed this wallet
- Thought popped into my brain that made me wonder how do these bitcoins reach their destination
- I realized bitcoin technology is really bad
- Now I am worried about my bitcoins

Its been a good 10 hours and they are yet to reach their destination....

Does anyone know if they will get their eventually? Or have I just lost a couple of coins?

I've later read somewhere on the Internet that the Bitcoin Core client should be kept open so that it keeps rebroadcasting the transactions, but since I've deleted the wallet thinking everything would run smoothly, I am unable to do so.

I've never really looked into bitcoin technology all that much but now that I've come across this I can't help but mention that the original idea was good, though mass scale practicality, this is a fail coin... just look at how torrents work... this pretty much sums up how transactions in the network work. I just hope I ain't as smart and the coins will come through sooner than later, although I can't help but see how impractical bitcoin really is in the real world.

PS. Bitcoin Core sucks big time, especially for something that has been around for so long and has grown in value so much, it misses so many end user features, things that every crypto wallet should have in order to be effective for real world use.
Pages: [1]
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!